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Nominees for the Riba Stirling prize for britains best new building. Mcallen whiskey distillery. Good evening, and welcome to bbc news. The chancellor has announced a raft of spending pledges at the conservative Party Conference, amongst them, an increase in the National Living wage. Sajid javid said that over the next five years, it would increase to £10 50 an hour, and the age threshold would be lowered to 21. An unwelcome discretion for delegates at the conference, theres been an allegation that the Prime Minister groped a journalist during a lunch 20 years ago. Our political editor, Laura Kunz Berg sent this report from the Party Conference in manchester. There you go, all in all. What happens to the Prime Ministers next into the country. Its not entirely in borisjohnsons into the country. Its not entirely in Boris Johnsons hands. Into the country. Its not entirely in borisjohnsons hands. However, many photos he grins for, he cannot be remotely sure if brussels will budge and give him a brexit deal. We have made some pretty big moves. We have made some pretty big moves. We are waiting to see whether our european friends will help us. The man in charge of the money he says he can to be sure how much it would cost, but would still be prepared to ta ke cost, but would still be prepared to take us out of the eu without a deal. Respective, they want to open up deal. Respective, they want to open up the government chequebook. Sajid javids mum was in the audience to hear his promises. Mum thought it was a big deal when it she watched the first asians move into coronation street here in manchester. Well now, shes watched the first asians move into downing street spending taxpayers money, they cant be sure they will have. This government is going to build britains future, and bring in in infrastructure revolution outlining how his government would spend cash thats mostly already been promised. 0n roads, broadband, and transports, and a step towards higher pay. Im setting a new target for the National Living wage. Raising it to match two thirds of median earnings. This ambitious plan will bring the National Living wage up to £10 50. Giving 4 Million People a well earned pay raise. Giving 4 Million People a wellearned pay raise. That would apply to everyone over 21. But its apply to everyone over 21. But its a five year ambition, not an immediate change. This is a modern zist immediate change. This is a modern 21st century economy. With lots of scope, opportunities, and its right that we balance that with a fair deal for workers as well. I thought it was very encouraging in many ways, i think the minimum wage will have a big impact on some industries, but we will wait and see. There are plenty of premises the tories would like to make you this week here in manchester, a trial run of a manifesto, perhaps. But there is a feeling in the ether, more crucial conversations are happening elsewhere. Unusually, during a Party Conference, and peas are at work in westminster. Youll at morning, sir. And opposition leaders have been planning their next moves, determined together to rule out any chance of borisjohnson taking us out of the eu if there no deal. We will do all we can within the parliamentary scenario and within oui parliamentary scenario and within our own parties to prevent this country crashing out on the 31st of 0ctober without a deal. Country crashing out on the 31st of october without a deal. Whether its the opposition or allegations about his past behaviour. The mac mr mr pye minister has a problem with women . Boris johnson has mr pye minister has a problem with women . Borisjohnson has problems wherever he turns. It has been alleged that you touched the thigh of a woman at a lunch without her permission, did you . Know, and i think with the public wa nt know, and i think with the public want to hear is about what we are doing to level up and unite the country. But will people listen . When the Prime Minister and his top adviser wade through so much noise, after whispers that she was aware of what happened back then. Dominic cummingss wife had to deny any knowledge. Politics under this Prime Minister is stranger than any fiction. Borisjohnson will not write the ending on his own. Laura kunz break there in manchester, also there our Political Correspondent, ian. Its a gathering of the tory faithful income are they being faithful income are they being faithful to their leader tonight . They have been pretty much faithful in there, thats in the Conference Hall behind me. There isnt exactly a good atmosphere, people are very supportive of borisjohnson, but just about outside very supportive of borisjohnson, butjust about outside the centre and an adjacent hotel, there is a meeting tonight addressed by three former ministers, indeed, three former ministers, indeed, three former members of the conservative parliamentary party, dominic greve, alastair bert, and david goff. David had the whipped removed from them voting against Boris Johnson had the whipped removed from them voting against borisjohnson on no deal, and it was live there that some of the sessions that we might hear at the official conference, Dominic Greif said he would not allow the uk to leave the eu without allow the uk to leave the eu without a deal, and at that point, he was heckled by various members of the audience, this fringe was organised by pro eu conservatives, so certainly there are some people descending from that, and they were shouting, youve got it wrong, don and various other cries as well. But he persisted it wasnt exactly a riot it was relatively polite heckling, but persistence heckling. Alister bert took the stage, unlike Dominic Greif, he didnt want to stop brexit, he wanted to leave with a deal. He still thought that was possible. But was also attacking what he saw as myths being put about by the government, around no deal, and whether it was going to cause disruption, and david golf, form is just a secretary and former treasury minister said that he used to be a euro sceptic, he used to be in the European Research group, just like jacob rees mogg, but then he looked at some of the effects of a potential no deal, and that filled him with horror, he said. I think he had the most outspoken attack on the governments, and indeed the Prime Ministers slogan he has everywhere here, get brexit done, he was saying this was a myth, brexit would not be done on october the 31st, if there isa done on october the 31st, if there is a no deal brexit, the negotiations will continue, but negotiations will continue, but negotiations would have to continue with our trading partners from a position of weakness, not a position of strength. So i think that was a little bit livelier, otherfringe meetings were available as well, some others addressed by jacob rees mogg, like i mentioned, but that debate about europe is going on and on the sidelines, while on the conference for, everything looks a lot more hunky dory than perhaps it feels, if you venture outside of the conference centre. Fascinating to hear that, ian. But conference centre. Fascinating to hearthat, ian. But the conference centre. Fascinating to hear that, ian. But the main speeches from sergeant javid today, his speech focusing on, you know, cash offers a head of an election, i guess. Well, thats right. If there was any doubt that the government wa nted was any doubt that the government wanted an election, or an election was in the offing, youd have to look at some of the official speech is here. So the big offerfrom sergeant javid as weve heard, is over a five year timeframe, indeed, over a five year timeframe, indeed, over a five year timeframe, indeed, over a period of the next government if you like. He wanted to raise the National Living wage, and make people as young as 21 eligible at the moment, you can only get the full rate if you are 25 and above. Mixed reception from some business groups. Some were worried about jobs, for example. I spoke to the federation of small businesses, they are worried about a lack of consultation with them. They said that labour consultants on their offer of £10 an hour, and the treasury. They felt very much it felt like a pre election promise. He also announced a whole range of infrastructure schemes, of course the money had also been announced. Some specific schemes were ran through, bus schemes rota screams bus schemes rota screams bus schemes rota screams bus schemes rota screams bus schemes rota screams schemes. Theres also housing announcements today as well. A speech by the transport secretary, so speech by the transport secretary, so the focus is very much on infrastructure, and some of the things which i think the government would say are the peoples priorities, that they are campaigning on when the election comes. Tomorrow, theirfocus is going to be on law and order. So all the time, they get these dividing lines with the main party of opposition on issues other than just brexit. And one other issue that has been dogging the pre minister, of course, his private life, his private behaviour. How much of that isa private behaviour. How much of that is a factor, do you think, amongst delegates, how much do people care about that . To be perfectly honest, im not really picking up an awful lot of gossip or outrage from delegates here. I think the question so delegates here. I think the question so far is playing outside the country, they are pursuing that story today, the pre minister has denied, of course, the allegations of touching the thigh of charlotte edwards, and Dominic Cummingss wife, his adviser, said to me, one of the journalists that may have witnessed this, no, she wasnt. You get this feeble atmosphere here, but its not really, i think, affecting most of the delegates. The question is whether it affects the pre ministers reputation, i guess, with the wider electorates. But so far, as you know, borisjohnson is a, shall we say, somehow overcome so many challenges in his political life, its not necessarily stop him from getting into number ten downing st, the question is will it now stop him from winning a subsequent election. I dont think the allegations will die down, in what would be, ithink, when it allegations will die down, in what would be, i think, when it comes a very, very contentious election, indeed. But so far, it hasnt quite caught him out. I think they are are still of course questions around his role as london mayor, questions were and whether he should have declared and whether he should have declared an interest when friends were attending trade missions. So i think there will be some things going on beneath the surface, which may then bubble up, and cause more damage in the future. But for now, although as i say atmosphere may be fined amongst the journalist, certainly amongst the journalist, certainly amongst the journalist, certainly amongst the delegates, doesnt seem to have dented their faith in amongst the delegates, doesnt seem to have dented theirfaith in Boris Johnson to deliver brexit. In watson, great to speak with you, thanks very much indeed. Live in manchester. Earlier, ispoke thanks very much indeed. Live in manchester. Earlier, i spoke to bens aramco, he is a Research Economist at the institute for physical studies, a leading Economic Research group. I started asking him whether the government could afford to make the spending promises theyve announced today. The chancellor inherited that meant that borrowing was at its lowest level in close to 20 years, but the National Debt is much higher than it was prior to the financial crisis. Now both parties at the moment, seem to be in agreement that there is room to borrow more, particularly to pay for investment projects. They make a good argument for that. But we are in a period of pronounced economic uncertainty, particularly surrounding the unresolved brexit outcome. For the chancellor to be making such a big spending pledges, and is opposite donna john mcdonald, mitts is quite a risky move. And is opposite donna john mcdonald, mitts is quite a risky move. With the brexit boat, and a lot of focus on left behind areas, and the sort of wealth gaps across the uk. How far will these moves, if they were carried out, go to address those imbalances . I think thats a big structural question, and theres a lot of important factors at play. I knew chancellor and a new Prime Minister do seem to be indicating that they want to do things like invest and transport in the north, lots of workers are located outside london, so they stand to benefit the most in any increase in minimum wage. But in terms of narrowing those regional gaps, i know that some of the areas that will be affected the most by the disruptive brexit would be, for instance, the midlands, the northeast, northern ireland, which are some of those left behind areas. So it really depends on what happens in the next few months. And how much are these promises affected by whether we have a deal or no deal brexit, because we dont know the costs of that, do we . I think the key thing is, the key thing determining on how much we can afford to spend in the long run is both the performance of the economy, and how much we are willing to tax. If anything happens that affects the performance of the uk economy over the medium to long term, whether thats a disruptive brexit, or other policies that damage growth. That will mean less money to spend, and some combination of spending cuts, 01 some combination of spending cuts, or tax rises, ultimately, to pay for that. So what brexit really means is whether this will be a pause to austerity, or will it be an end . The conservative argument that they have been, you know, economically strong over the last ten years, and therefore, they can now afford to spend, does that hold water . Whats certainly true is that borrowing has come down from an extreme a high level in the immediate aftermath of a financial crisis to know well below precrisis levels, and its lowest level in close to 20 years. That means the chancellor is arguing that hes got room to spend and perhaps cut taxes. And to pay for that through higher borrowing. Low interest rates, there may well be a strong argument for that, its a similar argument to what we hear from the labour party. But there is, asi from the labour party. But there is, as i say, a risk to do so. Without knowing what the brexit outcome will be, and what the economy will look good, particularly when countries around the world, including some of our european neighbours, are showing signs of economic slowdown. The chancellor, to some extent, is throwing caution to some extent, is throwing caution to the wind. Bens aramco there from the institute for physical studies. And well find out how this story and many others are covered in tomorrows front pages at 10 40 and 11 30 this evening in the papers our guests joining me tonight are asa bennett, the brexit commissioning editor, at the telegraph and the political writier and academic, maya goodfellow. The bbcs director general has reversed the decision to uphold a complaint against presenter, the brea kfast complaint against presenter, the breakfast presenter had criticised president froms motives after he said female politicians should go back to places from which they came. A review Panel Last Week partially upheld the complaint, but lord hall in an e mailto upheld the complaint, but lord hall in an e mail to staff said this evening that her words were not sufficient to merit its judgements, and the bbc is not impartial on it racism. Joining me now is our entertainment correspondent, just tell us a little bit about this message. Well, its got quite a big surprise to many people, welcomed by many people as well. He said primarily, this sparked an important debate about racism and its interpretation. He said hed been asked personally to look at the ruling, which was controversial, and criticised by many people over the last few days. Notjust members many people over the last few days. Not just members of many people over the last few days. Notjust members of the public, but many of her broadcasting colleagues, and many leading figures in the world of broadcasting signed an open letter to that effect last week. He said he has personally reviewed the decision that she should have a complaint against her partially upheld, and decided that that was wrong. He said in this instance, i dont think her words were sufficient to merit a partial uphold of the complaint around the commons that she made. And goes on to praise her as that she made. And goes on to praise heras an that she made. And goes on to praise her as an exceptionaljournalist and presenter. So this is basically the bbc reversing completely its position from last week. On friday, they were firmly behind the position that it was a difficult decision to make, but that they believed that she had to stepped over the mark. Now the director general, the man at the very top of the corporation has stepped in and said that the executive Complaints Committee unit i should say have got it wrong. And that the record should show that munchetty hasnt done anything wrong in this instance. There will be many people out there of course who will welcome this decision who have been very vocal in the media, on social media, about it. But will perhaps be concerned that its taken so long, and all of this, to get to a position that they feel the bbc should have reached a long time ago. David jordan, who of course was giving interviews on this, twice said that munchettys co presenter madame walker, hadnt had a complaint against him. Actually, the initial complaint did involve him. And the fact that a white male is treated so differently from a munchetty, illustrates what many people feel is, you know, the whole point. Its the problem behind this whole argument. Well, thats not addressed by the director general and his message this evening. But the bbc has said today that its all because of the way the complaints process works. The bbc has up to three stage complaints process. Somebody can make a complaint, the bbc response. They can come back to the bbc, the bbc will respond again. And then, there is a third appeal stage, if you would like the executive complaint units. They say in this case, when it got to the third stage in the bbc, it says it sets out in its rules that you have to point out more specifically what you are unhappy with about the bbcs initial rulings. The complainant chose only to focus on what munchetty had said in that exchange. That was what was put as the appeal before the executive complaints units, and that was all it could rule on, and all it did rule on. Was oh, thank you very much indeed for bringing us that update, that news hasjust much indeed for bringing us that update, that news has just come into us update, that news has just come into us of course within the last hour, we will be speaking to Trevor Phillips in the next 15 minutes or so, sir Trevor Phillipsjoining us us at about half past eight. Lets get the headlines now and bbc news. A series of investments announced by the chancellor including a significant rise in the National Living wage. Meanwhile, the Prime Minister denies an allegation that he groped a female journalist at a lunch two decades ago. The bbc reverses the decision to uphold a partial complaint against presenter munchetty over comments she made about donald trump. Sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, heres holly hamilton. A huge game taking place at old trafford tonight, as arsenal look to record their First Premier League win at Manchester United in over 13 years. A meeting between these two sides always feels like a big occasion but it feels like the pressure is more on 0le gunnar solskjaer, with united sitting 11th at the moment. S0me good news though Marcus Rashford has made a swift recovery and has started tonight. In what is a wet and miserable night at old trafford. Nearly 20 minutes into the first half, and it remains goalless. Fifa have ruled that cardiff city must pay the first instalment of 5. 3 Million Pounds to nantes for striker emiliano sala. The 28 year old argentinian, died in a plane crash injanuary while travelling from france tojoin his new club. Cardiff have argued they were not liable for any of the full 15 Million Pound fee because sala was not officially their player when he died. The second instalment of the agreed fee is due to be paid nextjanuary. Cardiff say they are seeking further clarification from fifa regarding the ruling before deciding what steps to take regarding the ruling before deciding what steps to take. On to the world athletics championships and what a moment for britains Dina Asher Smith as she received her first major global medal earlier after coming second in the womens 100 metres last night. Clearly no sign of fatigue, though, as she ran the fastest time of the day to reach the 200m semi finals winning her heat in 22. 32 seconds. Fellow britsjodie williams and beth dobbin are also through. But asher smith is ranked current number one in this event and is the favourite to win herfirst global outdoor title. Meanwhile, britains adam gemili clocked 20. 03 seconds to win the opening mens 200m semi and qualify for the final he finished ahead of turkeys defending champion ramil guliyev. Zharnel hughes failed to progress and Miguel Francis was forced to pull out after suffering a quad strain in yesterdays heats. It was an ethiopian 12 in the mens 5000 metres, as defending champion claimed gold ahead of compatriot, in what was a grueling race that left much of the field on the floor in the end, including norways jacob, who literally fell down as he crossed the line. Tomorrow is another rest day at the Rugby World Cup but therell be renewed confidfence from the scotland camp following their victory over samoa earlier. They scored four tries in a much improved performance to secure the 3a zero win and that vital bonus point one that could prove crucial in their group. 0ur correspondent Katie Gornall sent us this report from kobe. It may be thousands of miles from home, but injapan, scotlands influence is strong. The two countries have a shared love of whiskey and here theyve embraced a process thats all about patience. Enjoy. But not everyone has the luxury of time. Scotlands fans arrived in kobe showing plenty of spirit but knowing this could be where their journey effectively ends. A damaging defeat to ireland had put their world cup on the line, afterjust one game and the heat was on. In sweltering conditions, scotland struggled to get a grip. Commentator it has to be the humid conditions. But, after half an hour, they clicked. Sean maitland seizing a gift from above, to settle the nerves. Commentator first try for scotland, in the world cup scotland knew that keeping the dream alive would need tries, and lots of them. Greg laidlaw scored their second, before stuart hogg launched his own assault on the scoreboard. Now, everything was going their way. Beauty 20 points up at the break, afterwards, they moved further ahead, but the job wasnt done yet, as scotland chased a fourth try that would secure the bonus point they desperately needed. Samoa strained every sinew to stop them. In the end, they could only do so illegally. That meant penalty try, and with it, a dramatic victory that revives scotlands fortunes. It was a tough challenge they had to rise up and face. Knowing that, if we underperformed tonight, we were out of the world cup. To see the effort, the togetherness, was excellent. A huge win for scotland, under ferocious pressure. And with wins needed from their remaining games, against russia and hosts japan, the odds are still stacked against them getting out of the group. But now, at least, they leave here with hope. Katy gornall, bbc news, kobe. Thats all your support for now. We will have more for on sports day at half past ten. Back to you. Prince harry has paid tribute to a british soldier killed trying to stop poaching malawi. While on his tour of southern africa, he said people who wanted to protect nature should not be dismissed as hippies. 0ur royal correspondent Nicholas Witchell is travelling with the prince and sent this report. Liwonde National Park in malawi, a place which should be a sanctuary for wildlife, for elephants in particular. Except for this. The scourge of the poaching gangs, which kill wildlife in africas game parks. Present arms its a problem which takes human life as well. Prince harry laid a wreath at a memorial to guardsman, mathew talbert, of the coldstream guards. He was killed earlier this year, when he was on an anti poaching patrol in support of local park rangers. Having killed the animal, it is then a race to remove the ivory. And then a demonstration, laid on for the vip visitor. A supposed gang of poachers, whove killed an elephant, are making off with the prized ivory tusks. In pursuit, a joint british army park ranger patrol, tracking them through the bush. It ended, unsurprisingly, with the poachers rounded up and in custody. This is a carefully staged example of what happens at the sharp end of the battle against the poachers. But, of course, the underlying issue here is the need to conserve nature. And, on that, harry, who was opening a new section of forest, part of the Queens Commonwealth canopy, today, on the whole question of conservation, he has something to say. For me, its striking a balance, right . And i think the way. I get accused of being hippie for saying this, but now in todays world i think its more acceptable, but everything is in balance. Were the only thing thats putting everything out of balance. So, somehow, we have to be able to accept and learn and appreciate what already exists, rather than destroying it and then realising that we need to then recoverfrom it. Because we are literally driving ourselves to extinction. So, thats twice on this tour that harrys spoken up about conserving the natural world. And from a setting, such as an african game park, one might wonder who would contradict him. Nicholas witchell, bbc news, liwonde, malawi. A man has been found guilty of murdering his ex girlfriend who he strangled and buried in her garden in south west london. Laureline Garcia Bertaux was found wrapped in bin bags in a shallow grave. 32 year old Kirill Belorusov was convicted at the old bailey and he will be sentenced on friday. A National Service of remembrance has been held in paris for the former french president , jacques chirac. A Church Memorial was attended by dozens of current and former World Leaders including bill clinton and vladimir putin. Mr chirac died on thursday, aged 86. Authorities in hong kong say they have doubled the amount of police on the streets, ahead of Chinese National Day Celebrations tomorrow. It follows weeks of violent protests involving pro democracy campaigners, which started after hong kong authorities announced they were bringing in a law to allow the extradition of citizens to mainland china. In his first interview with western media, since the murder of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi, saudi arabias crown prince has accepted some responsibility for the killing but denied personally ordering it. The murder last year in the saudi consulate in turkey, was condemned around the world. Heres some of what he said, to norah 0donnell from the cbs programme 60 minutes. Did you order the murder ofjamaal khashoggi . Translation absolutely not. This was a heinous crime, but i take full responsibility as a leader in saudi arabia, especially since it was committed by individuals working for the saudi government. Well, those comments from the crown prince come as a United Nations Investigation Team that gained access to covert recordings of the moment that Jamal Khashoggi was murdered have been describing in detail what they heard. The writer and critic of saudi arabias government was murdered in the saudi consulate in istanbul exactly a year ago this week. Two of those who heard the recording have told the bbcs panorama of the horror and shock of listening to the material, as jane corbin reports. In october last year, Jamal Khashoggi walked into the saudi consulate in istanbul, he was hoping to collect divorce papers in order to marry his turkish fiance. But after entering the building, he was never seen again. We only know that Jamal Khashoggi was murdered and the brutal way in which it was done, because the saudi consulate was bugged by turkish intelligence. The planning and the execution were all recorded. You can hear them laughing. Its a sort of chilling business, theyre waiting there, knowing that this man is going to come in and hes going to be murdered. British barrister Helena Kennedy is one of very few people who have listened to the audio recordings of the journalists death. The horror of listening to somebodys voice and the fear in someones voice makes a shiver go through your body. Ms kennedy was invited to join the team headed by the uns special rapporter for extra judicial killing. She led the investigation into Jamal Khashoggis murder and negotiated access to the crucial tapes. Recordings reveal the truth about what happened to jamal. He says, am i being kidnapped . How could this happen in an embassy. The sound that i heard after that point indicate that he is suffocated, probably with a plastic bag over his head. Her report for the Un Human Rights Council concluded that Jamal Khashoggi was the victim of a premeditated execution for which the state of saudi arabia is responsible. There is no indication under International Law that this crime could be qualified under any other ways than as a state killing. The recordings also counter the saudis claim that khashoggis death was a rogue operation, with the tapes revealing the planning that took place in the days leading up to the murder. There is no doubt in my mind this was a seriously highly organised mission coming from the top. This was not some flaky maverick operation, no. No. The saudi government told us it is committed to holding the perpertrators accountable. The crown prince has said that as a leader he takes full responsibility, but denies ordering the killing. Jane corbyn, bbc news. Lets have a catch up with the weather. Hello there. Next 2a hours look very wet indeed, dozens of flood warnings across england and wales. In the numbers are likely to go 9 up go up after tuesday, with some heavy thunderstorms across southern portions of britain. All tying into this next area of low pressure, whether from bringing this next area of low pressure, whetherfrom bringing heavy rains tonight across parts of northern ireland, central southern scotland and northern england. For the south, it will be quite windy, gusts of 3040 it will be quite windy, gusts of 30 110 mph in the southwest, and heavy showers are arriving here. But quite a temperature contrast from north to south, mild in the south, chilly in the north. Lots of sunshine though across scotland, and their cooler northerly winds will start to extend their way southwards. We will start to see the rain pulling away from northern ireland, central southern scotland, gradually fizzling from northern england. Its the midlands, south wales, southern england which will see a rash of heavy and thundery downpours, frequent could cause flooding in their own right. Temperature between celsius in the south, quite chilly across the north. Hello, this is abc news with geeta guru murthy. A series of investment announced by the chancellor including the significant prize and a National Living wage. Prime minister denies allegation that he groped a female journalist at a lunch two decades ago. The bbc reverses the decision to uphold a partial complaint against presenter Naga Munchetty over comments she made against donald trump. The prince. As weve been reporting, the chancellor has announced a raft of spending pledges at the conservative Party Conference among them, an increase in the National Living wage. 0ur chief Political Correspondent has been at Conference Today and spoke to paul waugh, the executive editor for politics at huffpost, about todays key policy announcements. Today, for the conservatives, they did want to poke on focus on policy. Not all the money he has talked about spending is new, but it is still does mark a shift following on from labour last week, where austerity seems to be up and then, so they tone really has changed. Lets discuss everything going on today with paul waugh. They have finally gone on some policy. The National Living wage, they want to raise that over the next five years. That is a significant policy. Labour is been the party really pushing this idea of a National Living wage. There is a question whether they can pull that off with key voter groups. It is nice them saying, lets raise the minimum wage. They are very worried about labours plans at this, but if youre a voter, surely it isa this, but if youre a voter, surely it is a bit unattractive labours offering a simple £10 an hour by 2020, next year, and this plan is going to be by 2024, and theres a bit of hedging. Its a bit simpler. Do you think the conservatives are worried about a repeat of 2017, the election with the thought it was going to be all about brexit and actually, Jeremy Corbyn went around the country talking about other things which may be resonated more people . It feels to me as though they dont want to get cut out a second time by that. Definitely, and thats why that conference in a way is, get brexit done and then we can do the nhs, then we can talk about the minimum wage. Its actually quite a clever slogan because it means they can co opt both audiences. Leaving voters, we can do this, but other voters, audiences. Leaving voters, we can do this, but othervoters, in audiences. Leaving voters, we can do this, but other voters, in a sense, we are going to implement labours policies in some ways. The broadband. They are splashing a lot of cash around. A million here, a million on minimum wage, although thatis a million on minimum wage, although that is businesss money for some interesting it is really like 2016, not 2017. It is about the vote leave campaign. The promise of the tories and brexit. It worked in 2016 . Will it work again . And also, will they get to this point of having a general election . As things stand, borisjohnson general election . As things stand, Boris Johnson saying general election . As things stand, borisjohnson saying he wanted to happen and he cannot get it. They are stuck there. Another thing people are talking about is if Boris Johnson is forced to delay brexit, as the law suggests, that could be very harmful for as the law suggests, that could be very harmfulfor him if as the law suggests, that could be very harmful for him if he goes into a general election. There seems to bea a general election. There seems to be a split among people, his advisers, about how damaging it would be. He said, i will not resign. That was the moment of the weekend. It is slightly underplayed and he has made absolutely clear, evenif and he has made absolutely clear, even if the law compels him to extend or delay brexit, he is not going to quit as p m. He is really digging in and that is significant. Despite all the other noises we are hearing today about his private life, his private conduct, what he is doing is putting his head down and saying there is a solution to this. That is getting brexit done and delivering all these after services with extra cash. Paul waugh up services with extra cash. Paul waugh up there in manchester talking to vicki about what is going on at the tory Party Conference today. The decision to uphold a complaint on presenter Naga Manchetty has been upheld. The breakfast presenter had criticised the president trumps motives after he said four female politicians should go back Trevor Phillipsjoins me now. Thanks for joining Trevor Phillipsjoins me now. Thanks forjoining us. I dont know if you read the statement that he has a pelican to sized the decision. What do you make of it . I have seen the report of it, i think for the moment, it is a good decision by the director general but i thing there we re director general but i thing there were two things which still have to be considered. First of all, how could the bbc possibly have got itself into this hole . And kept digging for three, maybe four days, to this place . The first thing i think needs to be dealt with is how this was handled so poorly. Secondly, i think the bbc has to look again at these regulations on, this guidance to journalists, which from the outside appeared to me to say to the bbcs journalists, you can be black and offer an opinion and so on but that doesnt. Essentially what is being said about Naga Manchetty is it was signed to express Naga Manchetty is it was signed to ex press a Naga Manchetty is it was signed to express a view as an individual but that that was not regarded as part of her professional duty. I think thatis of her professional duty. I think that is a real problem here. If the bbc wants diversity amongst its journalistic and creative people, it has to allow them to be who and what they are and bring those insights, that experience, to their professionaljob. I think that Naga Manchetty is owed an apology because the bbc still seems to be treating her as somebody who sort of went off the reservation for a minute or two, and thats forgiven. But they are not accepting what she did was not what every other journalist not accepting what she did was not what every otherjournalist does, which is to bring an insight from their own experience and knowledge and back rent the reporting. |j their own experience and knowledge and back rent the reporting. I dont wa nt to and back rent the reporting. I dont want to replay the whole organ but the original decision was, she had strayed into comment on a politician positive motives and that does breach editorial guidelines, and thatis breach editorial guidelines, and that is the discussion, going on in newsrooms across the country. Remind me last time any of your political correspondence or reporters did not first report what a politician has said and then offer a view, based on their experience, and their knowledge, and talking to other people on what that politician meant and what the weight of his or her words represented. What Naga Manchetty did was to say, i have seen this behaviour before. I understand from my experience what it means. And in this case, i dont see anything different, and thats what im offering to the viewer. And by the way, if the bbc cannot allow its journalists to do that, what is the point of you guys . Why notjust it alexa or siri to report the news . The point is, we want you to bring that experience and that insight, and what the corporation has done is called that into question. Its good that this decision has been made but i think Naga Manchettys professional reputation has to have the stain removed from it i think the stain removed from it i think the bbcs trustees, or governors, now have to look at the way this was handled. And of course, you have off, your regulator, beginning to look at it. You have 0fcam. Off, your regulator, beginning to look at it. You have ofcam. A lot of criticism today when it was a field that dan walker, white male co host, had also been the subject of the original complaint, and that illustrated purposely for many why people of different colours are treated so differently. Do you think david jordan, who initially said there was only complete against Naga Manchetty, should be forced to go now or do you think this is a broader problem about institutional racism at the bbc because yellow full disclosure, david jordan is at the bbc because yellow i think he is one of the cleverest people i know. The problem here is david jordan follow the process to the letter. In a sense, he did his job too well. He did exactly what the rules told him to do and then ended up with this completely mad, rubbish decision. I dont think, as the bbc often does, in this case, the bbc often does, in this case, the system. What needs to happen is the bbc needs to apologise to naga, it needs to revisit those guidelines, it needs to prove to the public and its own minority staff that when it says it wants diversity, its not just that when it says it wants diversity, its notjust interested in painting by numbers and having brown faces around the table. It wa nts brown faces around the table. It wants the knowledge and experience and insight of those people to be pa rt and insight of those people to be part of the bbcs journalistic output thomas so i would not be happy this falling on any individual, especially not sodhi like david jordan because thats the way that big institutions always do this. They always say, it was some of thes fault, some but he made a mistake, it moved on and we were fine. You will not be fine if that is what you do stop at the bbc, along with otherjournalist, organisations the along with otherjournalist, organisations the bbc. The complaints amongst staff and others are that it is just not happening, whether it is on air, behind the scenes, production staff, whatever it is. Do you think this is a watershed moment . Do you think things actually change, you get more people for more backgrounds in senior. I would like to thank that that might be one outcome. All of her experience tells us that what happens is, big organisations do with the bbc has done tonight, they smell the wind, they see that there is trouble. What they do is they back off, they hope that the news cycle will pass on, nobody will be thinking about this next week, and they go back to business as usual. I think the fundamental point here is that both management, and more importantly the bbcs board and 0fca m, importantly the bbcs board and 0fcam, have to look at what happened here, ask themselves what lessons should be learned. As i say, the visible one for me as these guidelines seem to be to operate from a time when there was not diversity amongst voices on the bbc staff, and that they seem to be operating in a way that sata black or asian or minority bbc staff, when you come in here, you must leave all that you have grown up with, all that you have grown up with, all that has informed your personality and your knowledge and your culture, behind you at the door. That cannot behind you at the door. That cannot be right. We do not expect that of other journalists. We do be right. We do not expect that of otherjournalists. We do not expect that of women journalists, we do not except people simply to become autonomous automatons. The bbc needs to say clearly, we want diversity and not just the picture of it. And that will be uncomfortable but that has to be the way forward. Trevor, briefly, in the e mail, he has said he wants to examine how on air conversations go forward. We are in a very politically polarised time. The bbc has to retain trust and independence, doesnt it, especially now . Yes, of course, but the answer to the trust and independence problem is not a timid, on the one hand this and on the one hand that position, and instructing journalists never to let anything show just journalists never to let anything showjust in journalists never to let anything show just in case journalists never to let anything showjust in case some but he criticises me. The answer to trust and independence is to be absolutely clear about where we are simply importing facts, where we are evaluating it, which is what journalism is about, and what information, what background the reporter or the journalist is bringing to the table. Where the bbc will regain trust is where it allows its people to be honest about what they are doing. The reason this Naga Manchetty saga has become so toxic for the bbc is that its thought, if thought it could simply not allow this particular professional journalist to inform her commentary by her experience and insight, and this is by the way, the history of the bbc. Very nervous about this race, very anxious anytime these identity questions come on the scene, and the bbc tends to get paralysed and do something as com pletely paralysed and do something as completely bananas as we have seen in the last three, four days, and its sad. But very clever people, the corporation is full of brilliant people to reduce themselves to this low. Trevor phillips, many thanks for your time. Much appreciated. The headlines on bbc news. The series of investments announced by the chancellor, including acing the verizon the National Living wage. The Prime Minister denies an allegation he groped a female journalist at a lunch two decades ago. The bbc reverses the decision to uphold a partial complaint against presenter Naga Manchetty over comments she made over donald trump. Something else being discussed at the conference is whether vaccinations for all School Children in england should be made compulsory. The health secretary, matt hancock, says hes looking at very seriously the issue. Theres been a rise in the number of measles cases and the latest figures show a fall in the take up of all routine jabs for under fives in the last year. Dr Phillippa Kaye is a london based gp shejoins me now. Do you think compulsory vaccines are a bad idea . This shows the impact and the severity of these conditions which we can protect against. Measles can kill children, mum skinned children. We are not talking about a little childhood infection and a cough or a cold. Mumps can kill children. We are talking about such a serious measures. As a doctor, i am all for my patients making their own choices but children dont make these choices. Parents making choices. And if we are considering Something Like saying you have to have your vaccines otherwise you cannot go to school, we are not removing the possibility of schooling for those children and that is very important to remember because theres opera the opportunity of home schooling, asa the opportunity of home schooling, as a way of getting around the situation. We know about 90 of pa rents situation. We know about 90 of parents will get the first nmr vaccine and that drops to about 68 to get the second one, between three and half years and five years of age. We want both of those numbers to be about 95 but some of the reasons why parents dont do the second one is not necessarily their anti vaccination. Just simply that it is fallen off the radar a bit that when navies are really young, you have lots of vaccinations and then theres a big gap between one yea rs old then theres a big gap between one years old and three and a half, when they can have the preschool boosters, and this may be just a way of reminding parents about the importance of vaccination and encouraging them to go and get their childrens vaccinations done. But as gps, and in the surgeries, we have to make that as easy as possible and as accessible as possible. Briefly, ifi as accessible as possible. Briefly, if i may, you talked about the severity of these illnesses. Presumably youre seeing patients with this. How bad is it . Are you noticing more people coming to you . Asa noticing more people coming to you . As a medical student, i never saw a case of measles. As a doctor, i am seeing an increase number in children and teenagers and young adults as well. I have seen personally for five cases of measles this year, of which they have ended up this year, of which they have ended up hospitalized and one of whom has become very seriously unwell. This isa become very seriously unwell. This is a serious at the adamic. Dr Phillippa Kaye, thank you very much indeed. This is a very serious epidemic. The winner of the Royal Institute of british architects most prestigious award, the Riba Stirling prize, will be announced a week tomorrow. There are six nominations for britains best new building 2019 which include a railway station, new Council Housing and a property made entirely of cork. Starting today we will be taking a closer look at each of the nominated buildings over the next week. First up is the macallan distillery on speyside. Single malt whisky has been distilled in stills by the company for more than 200 years. The new building has taken three and a half years to build. The idea of producing a nice shed and having the stuff in there which produces whiskey and having a nice little Visitor Experience wasnt ever what we wished to create. We felt the whole thing should be a jewel at every level. This area has lots of Visitor Centres for distilleries and this one, we set out with the real intent to make it different, and to show the visitors just how a distillery works. Grahams great line was that nature abhors a straight line. The roof is a piece of art in itself. For it to be continually moving and allow that glass to stay in place on the wall, i dont know how it works. Theres two parts to this design, theres the shell and core, the aesthetics to the building, but there is also the process and operational, and when these two areas came together, that was a truly astonishing moment. This had to be an operational distillery, it also had had to look iconic, and i think it has done it. We did say we would create the most beautifully coordinated distillery in the world. It is actually the very nature of how weve organised the stores, how you approach the building, how we deformed the roof, which then takes a wild meadow which replaces the meadow that was there on the site before we began work. Everything we have got here in the distillery at macallan is different. It has been designed looking to the future. To have something that looks so different with its individual shapes on the inside, looks so natural outside, its truly wonderful. Looks amazing, doesnt it . Here with me now is laura mark, architecture critic and curator. I want to go and see that it looks stunning. Its really different, actually, and quite different to the other buildings on the list. Itjust feels really different when you walk in. It must have been pretty expensive to build. I would a company want to expensive to build. I would a com pa ny wa nt to invest expensive to build. I would a company want to invest in that . get its about tourism. The company wa nted get its about tourism. The company wanted to expand, and 90 of their whiskey is sold abroad, so they wa nted whiskey is sold abroad, so they wanted to get people over here to look at their whiskey. Sustainably must be a key watchword. What did this building try to do in that direction . I guess its interesting. This building has a huge timber frame roof and i guess if youre going to go for a sustainable building, timber is the thing youre going to build out of but they also used other things. The way whisky distilleries is quite linear. This time, they have done it circular in base so they can expand in time, so if they decide theyre going to make a lot more, they can make it bigger. Its kind of future proofing it, and then other things like they capture all the heat from the making process and they make it heat the building and they make it heat the building and provide hot water. Is your sense they are expecting, and want to see, lots of visitors . Was there lots of local interest when you are there . Yeah. I went when it wasnt open to the public, so its kind of hard to tell but i think they have had huge increase in visitor numbers. It is built as a visitor numbers. It is built as a Visitor Centre. Macallan change their mind on the brief. They originally had two separate buildings, a Visitor Centre and a distillery, and they re buildings, a Visitor Centre and a distillery, and theyre sort of project brought the two together. Just in terms of the water, i am just reading a parent leave for of the water comes into the distillery. I was also part of the design. Ya. The water comes from the river spey. Have you been to see any of the other entries . Yes, i have seen the weston in yorkshire, and nothing i might be the only one ive seen this year but i would love to see the courthouse. Quite intriguing. Laura mark, thank you very much indeed. We are going to be profiling all the contenders and that one looks a bit exciting. Thank you very much. You can find out more about all of the nominated buildings on the bbc arts website and watch this years Riba Stirling prize live here on the bbc news channel next tuesday evening from 8. 30pm. More than 80 flood warnings are in place across england and wales. Around 200 flood alerts have also been issued. Coastal areas from mounts bay in cornwall to seahouses in northumberland are at risk from rough seas and high tides. Kim riley reports now from hunstanton on the norfolk coast. The entrance to the precautionary evacuation area, the official advice to leave home from 7 10 tomorrow. The Environment Agency says high tides in a tidal surge could threaten 3000 homes, that many of the caravans in this area are now unoccupied. Teams from the police, fire brigade and local counsel this afternoon were knocking on doors and at risk areas. In 1953, more than 80 lives were lost on this stretch of the norfolk coast, a storm tide bringing waist 30 feet high, crashing into the flimsy homes. More than 60 years on, the authorities warnings were respected but most people decided to stay put. Its not that bad, is it . It is when it is low coast you have to worry about. And the tide comes higher. low coast you have to worry about. And the tide comes higher. I think its a spot on. Youre telling everybody, arent you . Its a spot on. Youre telling everybody, arent you . I dont think there will be anything to worry about. I dont think its when a get as faras me, about. I dont think its when a get as far as me, but the sea life ce ntre as far as me, but the Sea Life Centre may get affected again. This is the seawall, the protection the gates. 30 of the staff for the Environment Agency monitoring the coast. 0ther Environment Agency monitoring the coast. Other areas up addicted back lives, but homes behind a shingle ridge are more vulnerable. Lives, but homes behind a shingle ridge are more vulnerablem lives, but homes behind a shingle ridge are more vulnerable. It is vulnerable. Thats all we have this evacuation procedure in place. We maintain and manage every year, but with high tides, especially to the winter, it is vulnerable to. We are not expecting to be as bad as it was in 2013 and the surge there, but we have got to remain vigilant. People here are well use to the precautionary evacuation procedures posted theres no sense of panic over what tomorrow may bring. Lets get the weather right now. The last couple of weeks have been very wet indeed. During the weekend, we saw some torrential rain which gave rise to dozens of flood warnings being issued and more heavy rain during tonight and into tomorrow is going to exacerbate already existing flooding problems. This is the culprit, the next area of low pressure sending its heavy rain across england and wales, and as we had to the night, this weatherford will become. Heavy showers following on behind. If we start tuesday morning, very wet start tuesday morning, very wet start from northern england, southern scotland and the ring will be pulling away from here. We focus our attention then to parts of wales, the midlands, southern england, a rush of heavy, thundery output and frequent lightning could cause issues on the road and give rise to further issues of flash flooding. High teens in the south. The north of that rain band will be quite chilly. Plenty of sunshine here, that northerly wind will be strong for my feeding and showers to northern scotland. These will be wintry over the higher ground. As we head into tuesday, heavy showers eventually clear away, and we seasoning dryer to end the night. Without cooler air mass extending southwards, its going to be a chilli into the night as temperature. The reason for this, this pump of High Pressure pumping in from the west. It will settle things down but we will have a run of arctic norther lease. You see the abuse you on the map there. Just a recap, going to be a chilli start on wednesday. The blue hue. But at least, although it will be cold, dry and sunny, and that dry and sunny weather should give the chance for some of those floodwaters to abate. Perhaps if you showers in the east. Low to mid teens at best. Towards the end of the week, a bit of a headache with what is going on with the weather, they compete or models struggling to define what will happen to hurricane lorenzo, which is currently in the mid atlantic at the moment but it looks like it will draw some warmer air towards our shores. Uncertainty how much when an rain we will get from the west. Hello, im ros atkins, this is 0utside source. Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman denies ordering the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Translation absolutely not. This was a heinous crime, but i take full responsibility as a leader in saudi arabia. Especially since it was committed by individuals working for the saudi government. One year on from the journalists brutal killing, the bbc hears from those whove listened to audio tapes that capture the moments leading up to the murder, and the murder itself. Donald trump takes aim at the democrats in a series of angry tweets, suggesting the congressional leader heading up the impeachment inquiry against him should be arrested for treason