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Up to 4,500 jobs are at risk at energy firm npower, as a Restructuring Plan is announced. The met police is to pay the former mp, harvey proctor, £900,000 in compensation and legal costs. He was wrongly accused of being part of a westminster paedophile ring. Mr bartley is ready and waiting to answer your questions and a study on smartphones finds a quarter of young people good morning. Welcome to the bbc news at nine. The conservatives have complained to the broadcasting regulator about channel 4, accusing it of bias and of a political stunt. The broadcaster replaced borisjohnson with an Ice Sculpture, when he declined to take part in a debate about Climate Change last night. The brexit partys nigel farage also stayed away, and was replaced by a sculpture, but five other Party Leaders took part. Lets get more with our political correspondent, helen catt. Good morning. So the conservatives trying to push the focus onto channel 4 with this letter to 0fcom about what they call a stunt. But thatis about what they call a stunt. But that is not blocking out the accusations that borisjohnson is avoiding scrutiny . No, its not. There have been disputes about Television Debates and who exactly should appear in them over the last few elections, ever since they became a big thing in 2010. Because there are not hard and fast rules as to what debates should happen and who should be there on the stage, what is particularly interesting about this row is this idea that afterwards conservative sources had suggested they might review channel 4s public broadcasting remote. And that has been interpreted by some as a threat. Conservative sources to point out that its licence needs to be reviewed in the next parliament anywhere, whoever is in government. But they have sent this letter to 0fcom, this complaint. The education secretary, gavin williamson, said the broadcaster channel 4 should have allowed michael gove to stand the Prime Minister is very much engaged in a whole range of debates. Hes been on itv, hes going to be on another one. Hes hoping to be on andrew marr at the weekend as well. So theres an awful lot of opportunity to have a debate, ask the Prime Minister questions, but theres only so much time that he has in order to be able to do them all. As you said, at the heart of this is the idea of scrutiny and how much anyone who is standing for Prime Minister should put themselves forward for. And what type. You heard some of the things Boris Johnson has been doing there, from gavin williamson. He has been criticised for not agreeing so far toa criticised for not agreeing so far to a forensic 30 minute interview with andrew neil, which other Party Leaders have done, which is a different thing. Labour say he is running scared. He thinks, like, you know, his Bullingdon Club friends, that theyre above the rest of us, that they dont need to be held to account, they dont need to be treated like the rest of us. And so what hes doing now is, hes avoiding hes running scared because he knows that andrew neil will take him apart. Hes running scared. Borisjohnson did Boris Johnson did agree borisjohnson did agree to the first ever debate with jeremy borisjohnson did agree to the first ever debate withjeremy corbyn on itv last week. We will see them again in the head to 0k, helen, thank you very much for that. Helen kat, our political correspondent. We are going to have much more on todays general election topics throughout the day on bbc news. Beginning right now with salford and Nicky Campbell in the five live studio for a special your questions answered with Green Party Co leaderJonathan Bartley. Welcome to this special Election Programme on 5 live and the bbc news channel. We are giving you the chance to put your question to Jonathan Bartley, chance to put your question to jonathan ba rtley, the chance to put your question to Jonathan Bartley, the co leader of the green party. 0ver Jonathan Bartley, the co leader of the green party. Over the next hour we will be hearing questions from listeners on 5 live your call, taking questions submitted online and via social media to your questions answered on the bbc. You can get in touch when we are on the air. And we are also giving you the chance to e mail your questions. They have no answer to the question of what they would do. And apologies. We are clearly having some technical issues at the moment. You are hearing a clip of Boris Johnson rather than the studio in sa lfo rd. Johnson rather than the studio in salford. I am told we can go back there now. And apparently we cantjust there now. And apparently we cant just yet. Those technical problems continue. Let me remind you that we are hoping to rejoin Nicky Campbell in salford for that special question and answer session with jonathan for that special question and answer session withJonathan Bartley, co leader of the green party. It is one of a series of similar 0 and as that we have been doing with Party Political leaders during this election campaign, part of our extensive coverage during the election campaign, with just two weeks to go until the vote in december. Of course, the main story to date so far is that the conservatives have complained to the broadcasting regulator about channel 4, accusing it of bias, pulling a political stunt. This was because the broadcaster replaced Boris Johnson with an Ice Sculpture when declined to take part in a Climate Change debate last night. Nigel farage was also not there but five other Party Leaders were. In turn, the conservatives have been accused of trying to avoid scrutiny. All the while questions remain over whether borisjohnson will while questions remain over whether Boris Johnson will take part while questions remain over whether borisjohnson will take part in an interview with the bbcs andrew neil. We do hope to be able to get to salford, to 5 live, very soon. Now one of the days of the main stories. The families of those who died in the 1989 Hillsborough Disaster have reacted angrily, after a jury cleared the match commander on the day of gross negligence manslaughter. It had been alleged David Duckenfield had a personal responsibility for what happened, as our correspondent Judith Moritz reports. David duckenfield has been a blame figure for 30 years. In charge at hillsborough when disaster happened. But that he failed isnt in dispute. But his trial ended with him not guilty verdict and with tea rs him not guilty verdict and with tears for the hillsborough families. 96 people were found to have been unlawfully killed killed two criminal standard by an inquest jury. Somebody has got to be held responsible for 96 deaths. The families have struggled to reconcile the two Different Court processes they have gone through. The crown court jury they have gone through. The crown courtjury did not accept the prosecution case that David Duckenfields failings was were so duckenfields failings was were so exceptionally bad they were a substantial cause of the disaster. It comes four years after an inquest jury it comes four years after an inquest jury found the 96 were unlawfully killed. Who put the 96 in their graves . Who is accountable for 96 unlawfully killed 7 what graves . Who is accountable for 96 unlawfully killed . What a disgrace. This has been today. For the last seven this has been today. For the last seve n yea rs this has been today. For the last seven years hundreds of detectives have been gathering evidence into hillsborough. 0peration result is the longest ever criminal investigation in england. The hillsborough families say over 30 yea rs hillsborough families say over 30 years opportunities have been missed to prosecute the full number of people at the institutions which could have been held responsible for the disaster. With this trial the jurors only had one man to consider. And they werent willing to make him solely responsible for the deaths. 96 men, women and children were killed. The youngest aged ten, the old est killed. The youngest aged ten, the oldest a pensioner. In 2016, the hillsborough families sang to celebrate the unlawful killing finding at the inquests. But the 30 year journey of this finding at the inquests. But the 30 yearjourney of this disaster has taken many yearjourney of this disaster has ta ken many twists yearjourney of this disaster has taken many twists and turns, patience and sympathy tested again and again. David duckenfield has been on trial three times, including a private prosecution brought by the family is 19 years ago. There is some finality on todays verdict. It means no one will be jailed for so many lives lost. Judith moritz, bbc news. We can now cross live back to salford where Nicky Campbell is putting your questions to Green Party Co leader Jonathan Bartley. There is a pending investigation, so i cant really comment on that if thats ok. Im not trying to cop out. No, no. That is kind of understandable but i thought i would throw that one in. I do think it is important for politicians to walk the talk. What has happened with the protests is a massive outcry saying politicians have let us down right across the board come across every party, for not taking the action. This is an emergency. I dont think that came across last night as much as it should have. We have to act now. We are seeing the consequences in extreme weather events around the world. Let mejust in extreme weather events around the world. Let me just welcome back the bbc news channel. We had some technical problems. We lost you for a while. We are speaking to the co leader of the green party, Jonathan Bartley. Lots of things to talk about. Thank you, josh. That was a great start. Really interesting. Ive good weekend. Lets go to ed, a former new exeter, to talk about meat and dairy. How are you doing . Good morning. I would like to ask how much you your proposed meat and dairy tax would be . We are proposing a carbon tax right across the economy. For agriculture what we are doing is ring fencing the proceeds from that tax and putting it back into agriculture to support farmers in order to make the transition. We know that we are going to have to change agriculture. And we want to protect farmers as much as possible in that a change that we are going to make. What we are being very, very clear. There would be an increase, an improvement in the quality of meat, for example, but there would be an increase in the price of meat. A cheeseburger is 99p now. What would it be . We dont know exactly how much those costs would be absorbed by the supermarkets, for example, so its very hard. We are talking p rather than pounds. A big mac might go to 1. 20 else something . I cant tell you. It depends how much the supermarkets can absorb in terms of price. We want to make sure farmers are protected so they can transition and their livelihoods are protected. They can move to organic farming. We want to have more Small Holding revolution in terms of farming, more support for local farmers who are doing organic methods in their farming. Farmers who are doing organic methods in theirfarming. And get away from the Big Industrial model offarming. Away from the Big Industrial model of farming. This is a big transition. Its very hard to put actualfigures on it transition. Its very hard to put actual figures on it until we see the policy and action. What we are saying is that we will make sure thatis saying is that we will make sure that is ring fenced so the money goes back into farming and the farmers dont lose out. Some cause for concern for many consumers listing right now, thinking about feeding theirfamilies. Listing right now, thinking about feeding their families. Ed, listing right now, thinking about feeding theirfamilies. Ed, does that concern you or fill you with hope . It does concern me. Im an organic livestock farmer. Looking through the manifesto yesterday from the green party, they talk several times about encouraging sustainable organic mixed forms the key pivot for me with my farm is the livestock that i run. We are carbon negative. Not even Carbon Neutral, according to my calculations. We are absorbing more carbon and yet to tax us on the very livestock which allow us to do that, or to tax the consumer, seems to be wrong. The encouragement for local, extensively growing grass read grass fed meat should be prioritised and imported intensively reared livestock is really where the hitch should be. I am reared livestock is really where the hitch should be. Lam in reared livestock is really where the hitch should be. I am in favour appealing people eating less and good quality meat but that is where the emphasis should be. If we are going to have a sustainable system, we have to have livestock within that. Grass fed meat, there was a bone of contention, if i may, pardon the pun, and the Leaders Debate on the pun, and the Leaders Debate on the environment last night. Adam price, of course, coming from wales, a lot of had a lot of his constituents and supporters and people in wales in mind when he said, look, you can actually do this well. Pasture doesnt necessarily need to be bad for the environment. What is your view . We are proposing support forfarmers what is your view . We are proposing support for farmers like it. What is your view . We are proposing support forfarmers like it. We agree we have to make that transition from a less meat based diet toa transition from a less meat based diet to a cheaper, more organic meat and supporting that. It is the Big Industrial farming and a widespread scale that is causing the environmental damage. Are you going to plant trees on those pastures . Yes, we are talking about a big move towards ag roforestry. Yes, we are talking about a big move towards agroforestry. We will see a 10 increase in forestation across the uk. We know that we are going to need a lot more wood for sustainable building. Are you going to be putting 700 Million Trees on eds farm . I am watching your back here come out. We are going to support the farmers like it. It is the kind of farmer we want to support. We wa nt to ta ke of farmer we want to support. We want to take a lot of that land, which is low grade land, and plant trees on it to increase our forestation and that i farmers to move and make a switch may be away from or meat production towards ag roforestry. From or meat production towards agroforestry. And allow farmers. The money goes right back to the farmers to make that transition and secure the position of farming. That was interesting. Does agroforestry interest you . Was interesting. Does agroforestry interest you . I have got mixed feelings. I can see the benefits. If the timber is used for construction, as was suggested, that carbon remains locked up. But as soon as that tree is either burned for fuel, or is allowed to rot down, then the carbon is allowed to go back into the atmosphere again. At least if it is livestock producing pasture, the carbon is locked into the soil and remains in the soil. There is room for both. Certainly a lot more Tree Planting would be good. I am also concerned that where we listen to low grade land being planted in trees, very often these are the guys in the upland areas where, they really are struggling. That is the perfect area in many respects for good pasture and livestock rearing. In the same way that we are on low lands that have a tendency to flood, harvesting would do more damage to the ground rather than having livestock. I think it is part of the answer. But i do think that red meat is being demonised unfairly. Really interesting. We will move it on. Thank you again for that. Sofia and bath. Good morning. Hello. I wholeheartedly believe that the green party takes the life threatening severity of the achar logical crisis seriously. But in my constituency it is between labour and conservative historically, specifically jacob and conservative historically, specificallyjacob rees mogg. And conservative historically, specifically jacob rees mogg. I wonder what the green party be willing to form some kind of coalition with labour if this meant getting a majority and getting the tories out, essentially . Thank you. The pressure on all assault to hold our noses and vote tactically is immense. Probably bigger at this election then we have ever seen it before. In the last election we did stand down in a number of seats for labour. We reached out to them. It has been a continual. I will be honest, it has been a continual disappointment to make moves but get no reciprocation whatsoever. We want to see how we could support labour ina minority to see how we could support labour in a minority government, to hold their feet to the fire, to make them bolder and more radical than they are, particularly on climate. Hold their feet to the fire is a well chosen phrase, isnt it . When you think about what is happening to forests across the world. We are seeing climate breakdown across the world. Coming back to sofias point, we wa nt world. Coming back to sofias point, we want to work constructively where there is Common Ground with other parties. But for example, where labour wont embrace electoral for, what they are doing is lining up another tory government. We do need to see labour embrace a less tribal way of working with other parties, because more people want more choice. More people are voting for smaller parties. This isnt going to change. And so we do need that working together, that collaboration. But we also need a commitment to change our political system. It is a system set up for two parties. It doesnt work any more. The deadlock we have seen in parliament over the last two years is because of a broken parliamentary system. We need reform of the system itself. I want to work with labour as much as possible. Their new green deal is pretty radical. They say net 0 by 2030. So fire, please do come back. That is an interesting point between labour and the greens. What would you say makes your Climate Policy the most effective policy compared to the other parties . 0k, labour have been better than the other parties as far as im concerned. I dont think they are 50 of the way there. They are advocating only 50 of the investment we are proposing in terms of wealth deep redistribution. They are only pursuing 50 of what we are proposing. They are pushing ahead with fossil fuel subsidies, road building programmes. They have got a faith in nuclear, which i think its going to take too long to come on board. It involves destructive uranium mining. There is a big hole in the transport section. They want to press ahead with high macro, which would destroy woodlands. If we took that £80 billion and instead of putting it into that environmentally destructive project had a real revolution around the country, affecting every single area of the country, new rail lines and electrifying existing lines, new bus services to Rural Communities, slicing fares, that is what we need if were going to make a Green New Deal work for the uk. Are not talking about a new green deal, they are talking about a green industrial revolution. They are talking about swathes of newjobs in their manifesto as well. Thank you very much. Some quickfire questions. Gary has tweeted, what are your policies on population growth in the developing world . Well, the best way to help people to have smaller families is of course development. It is tackling the rampant global inequality. We made a lot of money off the fossil fuel economy. We pump carbon out to the rest of the world and they are now suffering that because of our wealth creation. We owe them to invest in them in Climate Resilience and development. We are advocating an increase in overseas aid, the only party doing it, to 1 of gdp, making us the third biggest aid giver in the world. That is the best way to tackle this issue. How do we build more homes as well as plant more trees . We are advocating 100,000 new Council Homes every year. We want a land value tax to bring back the land value tax to bring back the land sat on by developers, not doing anything for the community, to bring it back into the housing market. 0bviously it back into the housing market. Obviously there is an issue about building new homes. We want to see those homes are built. We want them on brownfield sites. We went out empty homes brought back into use. We wa nt empty homes brought back into use. We want more effective properties in terms of energy when they are built, to very high energy standards, so those bills are much less in terms of energy for people who have them. Yours is a very inclusive manifesto. We will come to a next corner, elaine ina we will come to a next corner, elaine in a second. You say you want to defend the rights of people of all faiths to express their faith, be that in religious clothing or food, or accommodation of religious observance. And yet on the other hand you make great play, more than any other party, on the sentience of those who share the planet with us. Are you with the rspca and the British Veterinary Association in banning halal meat . |j British Veterinary Association in banning halal meat . I think yes, i have to be honest about it. When we are talking about care for animals and animal sentience, we are the Strongest Party on an animal rights. I dont think religious observance should ever trump our care for the planet, our care for sentience animals. You would ban halal slaughter . Personally, yeah, i would. Elaine. Good morning. Good morning both. My question is, is it ethical to possibly do damage to the deep ocean floors by raking them for the minerals to produce batteries for electric cars . Yeah, im so glad you have raised that point. We have had this option offered to us that we canjust had this option offered to us that we can just replace fossil fuel cars with electric vehicles. It takes nine to 12 times of carbon just to produce one electric vehicle. They still pump out pollution that is going to be life threatening. It is going to be life threatening. It is going to be life threatening. It is going to kill people through the matter from tyres and brakes. We will still be in that same situation with congestion. Getting all those minerals from the ocean floors has a massive impact on the environment. What we are saying is we have to provide the massive investment we needin provide the massive investment we need in the transport infrastructure to give people the options and the choices to leave their cars behind. When you think about the car, most of us have our cars sitting by the side of the road for 95 of the time. It is an inefficient use of resources. Time. It is an inefficient use of resources. To understand that sharing economy that has developed in the last five years, we can liberate ourselves from the need to own everything individually and just have things sitting by the side of the road not doing anything for vast amounts of time. That is what we are putting forward in our manifesto. Electric cars might be a bridge to where we need to get you but they are notan where we need to get you but they are not an answer. Im quite actually happy that he said that. Unfortunately, i live in a small village. Transport was cut. We have now got a village minibus. We have to rely on our cars there is really no alternative. It is fine for people to use uber in cities and towns. But when you live out in the country, you are completely cut off. We are saying that we need a shift of power down to local authorities to give local authorities greater control over bus services. We want to have that investment i talked about, the money that we take from hs2, for example, and put them into new bus routes. If we just rely on the profit motive, private companies to produce those buses, they will not run them to the Rural Communities that actually need them u nless communities that actually need them unless they can see a substantial profit. So we need to provide that investment and we need to subsidise. Nobody should be left behind. Everybody should add that public transport option. This is a massive plan going ahead. Huge. You are not going to get into power. 0ver plan going ahead. Huge. You are not going to get into power. Over the yea rs going to get into power. Over the years you going to get into power. Over the yea rs you have going to get into power. Over the years you have been influencers and opinion, havent you . You have informed the current debate and no doubt you will continue to do that. Do you think you will be able to ta ke do you think you will be able to take any of the big parties with you on this . It is a massive political, economic and philosophical undertaking, isnt it . It is huge but we feel very much in this election we have set the agenda. We we re election we have set the agenda. We were the first to produce our ma nifesto. Were the first to produce our manifesto. Remember when we came out with these big numbers and we said, we have to do this, we want to borrow, we were very clear about it. We have to borrow over £90 billion a year. The 155 calculate it would ta ke year. The 155 calculate it would take borrowing your proposals to 140 billion. That is quite a lot. More than 6 of national income. The highest level since 2012 2013, when borrowing rocketed following the globalfinancial borrowing rocketed following the Global Financial crisis. A lot of money. I will come back to that in a second. Let me add to the first question. We broke the consensus. We saw the other parties coming out and saying, maybe we can do it. After a decade of austerity, remember we put these proposals forward 12 years ago at the time of the financial crisis. We thought it was a better way of getting out of the financial crisis. Coming on to your question, at the times when you had the new deal from roosevelt, the marshall plan, the financial crisis, this is the existential crisis that we face. If the climate were a bank we would have bailed it out by now. That is the reality. When we face an existential threat we pull out all the stops and we do it. We believe we can actually borrow to invest over the long term. If you build a hospital it will be used by generations long after you are gone. For decades, 100 years may be. It makes sense to pull that risk, spread it across generations. We can service that debt. We are going to create 3 millionjobs service that debt. We are going to create 3 million jobs through the new deal. We have seen it with the roosevelt new deal and the marshall plan. That increases the tax revenue, which is used to service that debt. It is the common sense thing to do in an era of low interest rates. This is the kind of scale we have to do. It is notjust a question of can we spend the money . It is a question of when we can spend the money. We have to make this change. The sooner we do it, the more it will secure our future in the long run. Are you frustrated that the message is not. Do you think too many people do not realise how bad this is . When you are walking through a Shopping Centre and people are going about their lives, are you not tempted to get a box and stand there with a megaphone and say, we are doomed, the end is nigh, unless we do something about it . The way you are talking, that is where we are. Do people know . |j it . The way you are talking, that is where we are. Do people know . I hope what is coming across as a message of hope, that we can cut peoples bills. We can give them a basic universal income to ensure they can make the transition. We can create 3 million newjobs. In silly peoples comms and cut their energy bills and provide clean renewable energy. We can live a better, larger life if we have the political will to do it. It is not about her shorts and beating people over the head. It is about giving people the choice of better public transport. We need to recognise this is an emergency. But its not just doom recognise this is an emergency. But its notjust doom and gloom. We can be better than this. If you watch one attenborough programme it is blinking, terrifying. Welcome to this special Election Programme. I use the word blinking advisedly. I could have used another one. 5 live and the bbc news channel. Until ten you have a chance to put your questions to jonathan you have a chance to put your questions toJonathan Bartley of you have a chance to put your questions to Jonathan Bartley of the green party. We will be hearing between now and ten oclock listeners to 5 live, taking question submitted online. You can get in touch while we are on the air using the hashtag bbc your questions. E mail your questions and text 85058. Our colours are from right across the uk with a range of views and they have showed an interest in participating in bbc programmes. We have also asked them questions about their backgrounds and experience. Good to talk to you. What would you like to ask mr bartley . How does the green party seek to cease this crisis . We are putting proposals forward to spending over £4 billion a year in providing free, personal social care for over 65. We see the link between social care and the nhs and will put 6 billion into the nhs and will put 6 billion into the nhs and another 1 billion and will put 6 billion into the nhs and another1 billion a year to provide 40,000 extra nurses, genuinely 40,000 extra nurses with bursaries. We know we have to look after our older population and we face a social care crisis. The bottom line is, if we want Good Services we will have to be honest but we will have to pay for them. There are no quick fixes or easy solutions. You cannot do clever tricks with money and get away with it. You have got to put the investment in and we want to do it. I would agree because funding is a starting point, but im glad you mentioned all the other issues within social care, such as understaffing. So i totally agree with your point. The other issue lurking in the background and i am opening a can of worms, our issue with the European Union. We know a lot of care workers and staff and staff in the nhs are eu nationals that come here and we know there is a crisis. People are losing confidence and we have a staffing crisis in the nhs caused by uncertainty over brexit. If we do sacrifice freedom of movement, and i make it clear, i am passionate about defending freedom of movement and keeping it, both as a wonderful benefit for us and our european neighbours. We want to see social ca re neighbours. We want to see social care and the nhs in the context of that. It isnt just care and the nhs in the context of that. It isntjust about care and the nhs in the context of that. It isnt just about the financial hard ship we will face from brexit it is about staffing and what we can do in terms of our public institutions. Thank you very much, we have some quickfire questions from our listeners. Paul says, if i am pro brexit and pro environmentalism, who do i vote for . The green party. The Biggest Issueis for . The green party. The Biggest Issue is the Climate Emergency, the reason we want to remain in the European Union is to work with our neighbours because we think it is the best way of protecting our environment. We may disagree on brexit but hopefully we can agree on the Biggest Issue which is the climate issue. Robert tweets, how many agendas are there . climate issue. Robert tweets, how many agendas are there . I couldnt give you a number of the top of my head. We dont need to get hung up on trying to categorise people or lay out a blueprint. People need to be free to express themselves in the way that is personal to them. It is about their identity and we dont need to get hung up on it. My daughter has a very good friend who transitioned during their time at school. I saw the heartache, the bullying, the stigma attached to it andi bullying, the stigma attached to it and i want to support people who are going through transition and make sure we have a new way of including people. They can self identify . How will it work . You can self identify, you can self identify, what do you mean . Legally, how will it mean . If people want to self identify legally, they should be able to do it. You want to update the gender recognition act . That is correct. Elsewhere, you want to make misogyny a hate crime . Yes. What do you mean by misogyny . The same way we have seen by misogyny . The same way we have seen racism, disablers and a real hate crime against disabled people, where there is hate crime against women, i have been shocked when i look at the twitter feeds of my co leader, sian berry, deputy leader Caroline Womack and caroline lucas. There is a real hatred. You can go online, it is no secret this is happening. I hang my head in shame when i look at what our country has become. We often do things on social media that we wouldnt say in person but often, it does come out beyond social media and manifest itself in shocking ways. It is soft pornography misogyny . shocking ways. It is soft pornography misogyny . I dont watch it. | pornography misogyny . I dont watch it. Iam pornography misogyny . I dont watch it. I am just pornography misogyny . I dont watch it. I amjust wondering if pornography misogyny . I dont watch it. I am just wondering if soft pawn is misogyny, women in the industry, is that misogyny . pawn is misogyny, women in the industry, is that misogyny . I woman has an absolute right to enter into the profession of wants to enter into, asa the profession of wants to enter into, as a man does. It is the hatred that need to be tackled. Briefly, and self recognition, what do you say to those people of religious faith who think there are two genders, man and woman, what do you say to the many people of christian, not all christian faith, muslim faith and jewish faith who are listening this morning who cannot believe what you are coming out with . A lot of people of faith agree with me. What do you say to those who dont . Lets have a discussion about it. I am a christian, i come from a religious background and the bible i read is an inclusive bible. It is about love and tolerance. It is also about disagreeing well with people, not shouting at people, not trying to oppress people of beating people into submission, and it has been a journey for me. I grew up in a religious and conservative family andi religious and conservative family and i changed my views and i see it as compatible with my faith, as do a lot of religious leaders. Richard, good morning. Gp in holyhead, over to you. Good morning. I am interested to find out whats going to happen to welsh communities in particular, green policies bring huge changes to british farming including sheep farming. How do you persuade welsh communities to get involved . An echo of a previous question but a good follow on . The cultural and Business Model . The starting point, richard, we know every sector of the economy is going to need to change to meet the Climate Emergency and that means the agricultural sector. The question is how we do it in the most effective and efficient way that protects farmers and Small Business in those communities. This is a time of seismic change for us all and we know this change has to happen. We know this change has to happen. We know the proposals we are putting forward in terms of ring fencing what we have talked about, the money forfarmers is the most what we have talked about, the money for farmers is the most effective way. It is the only sector in the economy we are doing it for, ring fencing the money for agriculture to make sure no money is taken out of agriculture but we are supporting farmers. We know we have got to make that transition, but are we doing it in the best rate that secures the future optically Small Farmers Going Forward . Future optically Small Farmers Going Forward . If you dont feel we are doing that and could be done in a better way, we are always open to looking at that. Richard, as a gp, what are your thoughts on where we go ahead on social care, you might have a view on that . Where we go ahead on social care . 0ne have a view on that . Where we go ahead on social care . One of the problems of austerity and other problems of austerity and other problems of austerity and other problems of universal credit have left us with huge problems coming through our surgeries on a daily basis. There are people who have been badly left behind by the system. We need to do something about that. All of the opposition parties have concrete proposals for doing it and i would like to hear more on our present interviewees ideas on the subject. We would repeal the health and social care act 2012, we dont see social care in isolation of the nhs. We want a reinstatement bill at the moment. 18 of the money in the nhs is going to private companies. When it goes to private companies. When it goes to private companies. When it goes to private companies, a lot of it gets sucked out of the system in the profits that are taken. We want to reinstate the nhs from the bottom up, putting Community Health boards so health is much closer to the people that are benefiting from the health and can guide it. Get rid of the internal market, we want is a publicly owned, free at the point of use and access and available free at the point of need, for the nhs. My dad was a doctor, always life in the nhs. Dad was a doctor, always life in the nhs. All his life in the nhs. He had time for patients, wasnt under the constant pressure of the market. There are strains on the nhs but they are exacerbated by the market. The only way to do it without getting a two tier system where health is only available for the richest is to have it publicly owned. Thank you very much indeed, richard. Matthew in sheffield. 0ver to you. My question is, how do you persuade other countries to reduce their Greenhouse Gas emissions . That isa their Greenhouse Gas emissions . That is a great question. We have to show leadership and we have to show it works. Secondly, working in the European Union, our meps, we doubled the number of meps at the last election and they are pushing for green deals across the continent. We know there is a new green deal in america as well. But we need to recognise the things we do in this country are not in isolation. If we expand our airports, then other countries have to expand their airports. Then we get a race to the bottom in airport expansion. If we plot investment in technology, it can be exported round the world and you get economies of scale so it works quicker and more effectively for economies when they see how you can create cheap, renewable energy. It is about showing leadership, sharing those benefits with others, recognising that what we do doesnt exist in a vacuum. Thank you, and now charles. Hello, i have a question about the uv ipad as he. Supply and demand, wont you create a demand for products without work and therefore create a system where automation will throw everybody out of work because we cannot regulate redundancy of human leda annual creativity system where those are wealthy enough to invest in automation will have abundance, but then everyone else will be a complete underclass who are living off the state as automation will have put everyone out of work . 0k, universal basic income, ubi, £89 a week to all uk residents to replace current benefits, how would you a nswer charles . Current benefits, how would you answer charles . What youre proposing is the most redistribution of wealth to the bottom. Various pilots around the world, suggest people are not excluded from the workplace but provides the security for people to be entrepreneurial and start up business with the safety net. Take time out to do education and gives more choice. It will not destroy jobs, but it and gives more choice. It will not destroyjobs, but it could be a job creator. For everyone . High earners . With the welfare state and the tax brea ks we with the welfare state and the tax breaks we give people, they go to eve ryo ne breaks we give people, they go to everyone and we can claw it back through progressive taxation. Ubi is a reform of the welfare state, it was set up after the Second World Warfora was set up after the Second World Warfor a different era. There was set up after the Second World War for a different era. There was assumptions about a male breadwinner, certain types of employment and the job for life. That has got more complicated as the world has changed. Lets simplify the system, make it more transparent, a single payment to eve ryo ne transparent, a single payment to everyone of £89 a week. That can be supplemented with disability benefit, disability benefit, extra for pensioners. That will allow us to have that security, as we make the transition to the low Carbon Economy. We know there will be a lot of change, a lot ofjobs will be changing, the way we work and live and to have that security is vital. If we can then reform the tax system at the top end to make sure the wealth that is held and avoided, tax avoiders have to pay their fair share and that goes back into the basic income. Thank you for that question. The maximum wage paid to any member of staff in an organisation should not exceed that ten times paid to the lowest paid worker, does that apply to old trafford . Worker, does that apply to old trafford . Applies to Manchester United . It applies to Manchester United. How will it work . If Manchester United want to pay their players a massive amount of money, according to the pay ratio, they need to lift the play of the lease paid in the club, less than ten times, the ten to one ratio. Some players are on half £1 million a week. I cannot do the maths, but that is. It is 50,000, isnt it . Inequality hurts us all, it damages our society. To have those massive differences, wealth differentials, it is something that is not good for the kind of world we should be living in. When you look at the spirit level, they looked at levels of inequality around the world. Unequal societies are less well off in terms of their environmental standards, in terms of the happiness and well being. Standards, in terms of the happiness and wellbeing. That will create new inequalities. If you are looking at the laundry at old trafford, £50,000 a week . What if you are looking at the laundry at raith rovers . The samejob will the laundry at raith rovers . The same job will have a complete disparity. Manchester united have a choice, they can either cut the salaries of the high earners or they can increase the salaries of the lower earners. We believe this is a good way of focusing minds on what is important and what we value. I know that we tend to value people according to the money that they bring in and you know, the glamorous work, but is someone who is earning millions a year more valuable intrinsically, in terms of their worth on the person who cleans the toilets . Worth on the person who cleans the toilets . No, they arent. There needs to be a differential but it is an obscene amount of money to be spending on one person. He is doing one particularjob when another person might be working the same hours but not enough money on the table. I know it is mind blowing but we are being honest about the kind of work we want to live in. It is fascinating. As a Nottingham Forest fan, it might give us more of a level Playing Field when we try to get into the premier league. Lets speak to andy who is a heating engineer in stalybridge. Good morning. An interesting thought from jonathan there . Especially being local. It is right on my doorstep and it is my team. What a can of worms, what do you want to ask . work in the heating industry and i am at the coal face every day, 90 of this country, of the uk are dependent on heating and hot water and what is its replacement, directly . Our Green New Deal for housing evolves, we want to deep retrofit of 1 million housing evolves, we want to deep retrofit of1 million homes a year. That means super insulation, Cutting Energy demand and we realise that it so much energy lost from homes. We can cut energy bills, cut Energy Demand and consumption by super insulating homes and we want to prioritise those in fuel poverty and those at the sharp end first. Secondly, we know there is developments in technology, which means it depends on what house you are in with ground source heat pumps and a lot of the states rely on gas for the heating. In the 70s we get about 6 million homes with new Central Heating Systems in that decade. You can have very big change in ten years and that is what we are advocating. It would have been time to do this in the last ten years with different structures and we have been fitting renewable products when we can. But 90 like for the heat pumps, we cannot install them because the Housing Stock isnt right. Heat pumps is a divisive thing is, houses are right for them, new Housing Stock is right for them but when it comes down to the cost of installing them, without an incentive, people will not put them in. It is a big challenge for the future . It is, i am not an expert in this area but also electrification, used to live in a flat on a housing estate. All our heating was done on electric. There are different alternatives, but the key question is, we know we are going to to do this. Totally agree with you, but electrification in the country, people have gas inside their houses now and they will have to be some effort to still embrace that in the same way and keep the cost down. The cost of replacing and putting the heat pumps in 21 million homes is billions of pounds. A lot of money. It is, we are saying 38 billion a year over ten years. So that is more than you are saying in that estimate. We are facing up to the cost. One thing on this one, we have been involved locally with their new type of Hydrogen Hybrid boilers which is can be an alternative to electric production. Is it feasible to do that so you have a hybrid mix in the same infrastructure to what the uk has a present . You probably know more about this than i do. But what i understand is, what we believe is, we cannot wait around and put all our faith believe is, we cannot wait around and put all ourfaith in believe is, we cannot wait around and put all our faith in the believe is, we cannot wait around and put all ourfaith in the new Technological Developments because they may not happen. Technological Developments because they may not happen. I appreciate your time to answer everything, but the technology is there. Do we need to turn our heating down today . Were not saying turn down the heating, super insulates the home so there is less demand the heating. Of course, there is new technology around, hydrogen is something, of course, we want to be able to transition to the low Carbon Economy as quickly as possible. Certainly i am nota as quickly as possible. Certainly i am not a person to pontificate about the technological solution. But we we re the technological solution. But we were making the investment available. We want to be led by those who know what they are doing to make it happen and for you to confirm that it can be done, that is great. Work with us, andy. Your party is needed. When i look into my grandchildrens eyes, we need your party. The selection, maybe not so, but definitely for the future. Thank you. Quick fire questions and they look like this, john says, why scrap the high speed rail and it has the opportunity to reduce the uks Carbon Footprint . It wont be Carbon Neutral for 120 years, by hs2s own admission. You think about the Small Railway line going up the country, thatis railway line going up the country, that is not what hs2 is. I have been to the sites of hs2, been with the campaigns, massive areas of the countryside concreted over, the destruction of biodiversity that comes from 105 ancient woodland that will be destroyed. This is biodiversity that has built up over the years, we are facing an ecological crisis which cannot be solved by planting a few more trees. It is about the choices we make and investment. £80 billion, 100 billion a yearfor the investment. £80 billion, 100 billion a year for the new deal, investment. £80 billion, 100 billion a yearfor the new deal, Green New Deal. That is one year of the Green New Deal. What that could do in terms of heating. Lets take the 80 billion, it might even be 100 billion, it might even be 100 billion plus by the time it is true, lets put it into, for example, half £1 billion, £500 million for towns and cities around the country. That is what renewing the transport infrastructure, that is what will get people out of their cars. It will not impact flying, you are not going to cut the flight from glasgow down to london. If Nicola Sturgeon has her way it will. Someone else says, is being poor betterfor the planet than being green . No, it is about recognising we can have a great quality of life, we can all flourish in a new green, low Carbon Economy. It is often the poorest who are suffering the results of air pollution. People who live around airports, suffer the pollution from the aircraft. They cannot afford to move out of the flight path, they are the ones that suffer. Mark text to say whered you go on holiday and how do you get there . The last holiday i had was in cornwall and i took the train down. It took me up took the train down. It took me up to six hours to get there, we can increase that capacity and make it easier. We want to cut on hotels, on domestic holidays. The leisure industry, eating out. We want to make holidaying in the uk and much more attractive, rejuvenating seaside communities. I think i have flown six times in the last ten yea rs. Flown six times in the last ten years. Mainly short haul flights. Flown six times in the last ten years. Mainly short haulflights. I try not to, but were not beating people over the head to get them to put on shirts and sandals, but we need to make the options available so we can make the best choices for all of the. Michael, should flights be rationed . Frequent flyer levy. Those binge flying should be rationed but we want to do it through a frequent flyer levy. You wa nt to through a frequent flyer levy. You want to ban all hunting, everything . Ifi want to ban all hunting, everything . If i had my way, absolutely. Want to ban all hunting, everything . Ifi had my way, absolutely. If you had your way, it is in your ma nifesto, had your way, it is in your manifesto, is this in scotland as well, the scottish greens, you want to ban venison . I think hunting animals, particularly for sport is obscene. What about meat . We are not saying ban meet at all. You are saying ban meet at all. You are saying ban meet at all. You are saying ban venison . If youre going to have meat produced, it needs to be done in a humane way. Thats what we are saying. Venison is organic, it is on the hills. How are you getting the venison, going out and shooting . I am not getting it like that i am not comfortable with it, i dont like it. I realise there is a discussion and debate to be had. I dont want to see animals killed for sport and to suffer for our meat production. Lets speak to christine. All yours. Good morning. What are the green policies relating toa what are the green policies relating to a customisation within our Education System . We are opposed to a customisation, we want to bring academies back under local authority control. We believe education is a public good, we dont like the intrusion of the market. But in the round, academies increase the intensity, often, ofa round, academies increase the intensity, often, of a market, seeing our children as economic units to compete in the global marketplace. We want to get rid of 0fsted, and we want to get rid of sats. We want a system that equips our young people that navigates a rapidly changing well. Rather than cram their heads with facts we want them to have the skills to flourish ina them to have the skills to flourish in a world that is changing so quickly. Thank you very much indeed, allow me to take it, we now have gym in bolton. Thank you for holding on, quick question . Good morning. Jonathan, you propose to spend £100 billion per yearjust on green issues. Your party says he will make Companies Pay more. How much do you intend to increase my Corporation Tax by . We want to see your Corporation Tax as part of a consolidated income tax. So we will ta ke consolidated income tax. So we will take Corporation Tax and merge it with income tax. Whatever you pay in income tax will be what you pay in Corporation Tax. What are you going to take it up to . The Corporation Tax level in the interim, would go from 19 to 24 and that is producing £8 billion as part of the 100 billion you havejust reference. I year, you are going to spend . Yes. Paul in great yarmouth. What is the green partys policy, you dont want to leave europe but we cannot live being in europe with the fishery policy so what is your policy making our livelihoods viable again . They are not viable at the minute because has got everything. We recognise no one benefits when we deplete fish stock so we need to have a sustainable fishing policy. We recognise. We all know about sustainability, we practice sustainability, we practice sustainability, its our future. Sustainability, we practice sustainability, its ourfuture. But when the shares from europe are so poor to british fishermen, i have ended up with 40 kilos a month to feed a family. What would be a policy to get in europe and make a fairershare policy to get in europe and make a fairer share for british fishermen . We are fighting with our meps in the European Parliament to make sure that we make sure fishermen and eve ryo ne that we make sure fishermen and everyone in the coastal communities, their interests are represented. You have got to negotiate, you have got to lobby and you have got to take your place at the table and play a full pa rt your place at the table and play a full part in the process. We have been there and lobby ourselves, it is ruled by the dutch. Everything is overruled so we never get a say at the table and it is not fair, so what is your policy to stop this happening again . The only policy that will ever work for the fishermen is to leave europe, take control of 200 miles of water and marine life and have limited access for foreign vessel so we can get a decent living out of the sea again. It has to be a 32nd answer. Reform of the European Union and i recognise up to this point because ofa recognise up to this point because of a eurosceptic position we havent been a strong and as powerful in europe as we could have been to get the reforms we need to see. We have been treated and held at arms length because we havent been seen as signed up to the european project. So we havent been taken as seriously as we should have been. A closer remaining in the european position would allow us to have a bigger say on those kinds of issues. 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