Really appreciate your time, and againi really appreciate your time, and again i really appreciate the responsible way that this has been reported in terms of the heroism of members of the public and the Police Office rs members of the public and the Police Officers who went forward. Thank you very much for your time. Studio that is the assistant commissioner speaking outside new scotla nd commissioner speaking outside new scotland yard, reiterating a lot of details that we already knew, but perhaps the most important thing stressing that the searches have been carried out in the West Midlands at two properties, one in stoke on trent and one in stafford, and the police are at this stage satisfied that no one else was involved in planning yesterdays attack, which honestly will raise questions about the circumstances. Lets return to yvette cooper, the labour chairman of the House Select Committee in the parliament. Last we we re committee in the parliament. Last we were about to talk about the question of de radicalisation. There have been suggestions made by was mccown is lawyer that he had made attem pts mccown is lawyer that he had made atte m pts to mccown is lawyer that he had made attempts to get a de radicalisation programme, and that those hadnt happened. Are you aware of other circumstances in which this has been a problem, when people who know they have a problem, have been convicted ofan have a problem, have been convicted of an offence, have tried, we dont know how seriously in this circumstance, have tried to access de radicalisation programmes, but havent been able to. He was imprisoned for such a long time because of a conspiracy to commit a terrorist attack, blow up the london stock exchange, that people might be surprised if that was the case. That is one of the most important questions that will need to be answered, because there are de radicalisation programmes, but there is a big question about whether this attacker was a part of them, what the extent of them was, what the resourcing is behind them, and that also about the resource thing in prison, because particularly in prison where someone has been convicted of a terrorist offence, there have been continued concerns about whether in fact extremism is persisting in prisons, that there is in fact more radicalising of people in prison as opposed to de radicalising, and therefore the investment in the de radicalisation is crucial, and also what de radicalisation support is available for probation, and for offender management as well. Sol think there is going to be some very Big Questions about the scale of those programmes, and what scale they need to be as well. The other crucial question is about the level of Risk Assessment and Safety Assessment for anybody coming to the end of their sentence or partway through their assessment, and i think that is going to be a big focus. We used to have powers as pa rt focus. We used to have powers as part of control orders, they were replaced by something which was away of being able to restrict the movements and being able to control the location of people who were thought to pose a continued danger oi thought to pose a continued danger ora thought to pose a continued danger or a continued risk, and we need to know for example whether those sorts of powers are being fully used in order to make sure that we keep the public safe. It is important, we heard in the statement that they made, the tremendous amount of work the police are doing at the moment to investigate this case, and i think everybody will want to support police in that work, they are doing a superbjob police in that work, they are doing a superb job and police in that work, they are doing a superbjob and it is important that the public have been coming forward and supporting the police in that work, and we must continue to do so. We also need to make sure that serious questions are asked about preventing these kinds of things happening in the first place, given the serious concerns there are in this case. If they served full term of a long sentence without hope of parole, they may become so depressed, even more than prison normally makes them, that they pick up literally impossible to handle, so it bows to manage numbers and to give people a sense that there is going to be light at the tunnel, but the idea that there would be an ability to reduce the sentence was designed for people like this, and some viewers may have seen, on channel 4, the first one was about being much more used byjudges for lessening the sentence, and it is surprised the court of appeal moved him off one of those, because that is literally what it is designed for, so the automatic relief for people who will have hopefully learned something other thanjust how have hopefully learned something other than just how to have hopefully learned something other thanjust how to commit more crime is based on an optimistic view, and also just crime is based on an optimistic view, and alsojust plain management of space. Terrorists are a separate category, idea logically driven, very different from most people who commit Violent Crime so they shouldnt have any automatic handling by the justice system. And i suppose it makes the point that the parole board were making the point that actually they would have had nothing to do with this process precisely because as you say it is automatic and this would be one of the things that needs to be looked at. The other question is twofold, one is about the supervision of people after they have been released in this kind of category. We understand that he was tagged, but having a tag on its own isnt going to be an issue because he was at a public event to which he had a p pa re ntly public event to which he had apparently been invited, so he wasnt apparently engaged in any activity that would have caused any . , but there will be people raising the question again of what sort of supervision takes place after people have been convicted of such a serious offence. It is really the supervision of anybody who has been convicted and sent to prison. It is woefully inadequate because the Probation Service has been decimated by cuts. People have focused entirely too much of the police cuts as bad as they are, and the Prison Officer cuts as bad as they are, and they are serious in terms of potential rehabilitation, but the cuts to the Probation Service mean that a whole range of offenders who need the kind of attention that anybody else would need if they are going to try to go straight and have this kind of support isnt lacking, and i understand from his lawyer who was quoted today that this chap actually asked several times while in prison to have a de radicalising, someone to have a de radicalising, someone to work with him, because he realised the error of his ways, and when he came out, it looked like he was radicalised all over again to become violent again, but he was actually a model prisoner, and wanted to change, but there was no resources to give him, and that happens a lot, it is a tragedy for everybody. And indeed, presumably many serious questions raised about what can be put in place so that this is not repeated in future cases. What given your involvement in the criminaljustice system after dare i say it almost half a century in this country, what do you think is lacking . I talked to a former prisoner lot so long ago, not so but who committed a terrorist event, they said when they went to prison they said when they went to prison they had a dedicated Prison Officer to ensure that they werent just sucked into a culture that would make them worse than when they come m, make them worse than when they come in, but that that is all gone because the turnover of staff on the increasing use of agency staff rather than full time Prison Officers in particularjails. It is particularly to do with numbers, and when we worked in winchester prison, we knew the Prison Officers tried and wanted to do a job of the kind you describe, sentence planning with a designated officer, i watch that 20 years ago in wandsworth where at least it had a serious chance of working, most offenders commit their crime because they want respect and attention, and they get it sometimes through a Prison Officer, and that can be enough to change the whole direction of their lives afterwards, but now it was tragic to see all of these characters, both the Prison Office rs these characters, both the Prison Officers who wanted to help and the prisoners who were just trapped in their cells for 23 hours and 15 minutes every day. How do you think you can rebuild your life when you are alone or alone with somebody else, waiting for some vague hope of a change in some attention . And they just cant right now. Thats roger graef, a documentary film maker and criminologist. I apologise for the fa ct criminologist. I apologise for the fact that he abruptly magically appeared replacing yvette cooper, that was due to a simple technical problem. My battery ran out, so i was reduced to a stunned silence, which is a rare treat, and they had to go to something, so they dug up the little interview i had done earlier. It is like blue peter in election news, Nicola Sturgeon has been campaigning in st andrews, meeting crowds and making a speech, saying scotlands future is on the line in the general election. Alexandra mckenzie has been following the snp this weekend. There was a very different tone to campaigning here in st andrews today. Nicola sturgeon, scott ands first minister, took to the stage and paid tribute to everyone involved yesterday, to the families of those who lost people in the attack yesterday, to the emergency services, and to others who risk their own lives to help others. So it isa their own lives to help others. So it is a very different tone set, but she was speaking to a hall full of delegates here in the Beautiful University town of st andrews in the constituency of northeast fife. Now, this is the uks most marginal seat. The snp did retain the seat in the last election, but only by two votes, and historically, this was the seat of the liberal democrats, of Ming Campbell for many years. Speaking to the delegates this afternoon, Nicola Sturgeon painted two very different scenarios for scotland. She painted a picture of scotla nd scotland. She painted a picture of scotland if borisjohnson was back in10 scotland if borisjohnson was back in 10 downing street after the election, and scotland had to leave the eu. As we know, scotland voted to remain in the european union. And what she said was that brexit is the biggest threat to the nhs in its history. She said brexit would also be detrimental to scotlands economy, and forjobs in scotland. Now, the other picture that she painted was that if scotland was independent, and what she said is that a vote for the snp is a vote to keep the tories out of downing street, and a vote towards that referendum, and in her words, she wa nted referendum, and in her words, she wanted to have that referendum next year. Now, idid wanted to have that referendum next year. Now, i did ask how she is going to get that, because Boris Johnson has said there will be no referendum if he has prime minister, and Jeremy Corbyn has said there will be no referendum in the early yea rs of will be no referendum in the early years of a labour government. She didnt want to dwell on that, she said she had another date in mind and she was looking towards campaigning for this election on the 12th of december. She has said that this is a crucial election for scotland, and scotlands future is on the line. Alexandra mckenzie theyre out st andrews. Good news here at the bbc in london. The Christmas Tree has gone up, but a much better Christmas Tree is visible in bethlehem this evening. The tree in manger square is about to be lit, that has been a tradition in bethlehem for some time. I think that that is the mayor of bethlehem. There is a Palestinian Scout band which accompanied a wooden fragment believed to be from the major ofjesus which was brought to bethlehem on saturday, and it is a great ceremony. This is after more than 1300 years in europe. The scout band played, we will try to find pictures for you a little later, played bagpipes, drums and saxophones to accompany it as it arrived in manger square. It has beenin arrived in manger square. It has been in rome since that seventh century. The relic had been presented to franciscan custodians of the holy land as a gift from the vatican. Worship is thronged the square vatican. Worship is thronged the square as vatican. Worship is thronged the square as the chief franciscan carried the relic it is in Catherines Church which is next to the church of the nativity, outside of which is the Christmas Tree. It is complicated, sorry about that. On friday, mr patten had told afp that the seventh century latin patriarch had sent the relic to roam in around 640 as a gift of that then Pope Theodore the first. It is a 2. 5 centimetre long, and it will be installed forever in bethlehem as a holy relic linking the modern church to the ancient traditions of christianity. That is the ceremony in bethlehem taking place. We will bring you more of that in the course of the next couple of hours hit on bbc news. Now we live bethlehem and joined the team for click. I lost my sight seven years ago. Navigating the world can feel like a huge challenge, even with my gorgeous guide dog, olga. I usually use my guide dog willow to get around, but today, were trying out a new device the wewalk smart cane. I think olgas a bit confused with the cane. Laughs. The device has a round sensor to detect obstacles. Ive paired it with my smartphone and airpods to send me directions. So my airpods pick up the information from my phone and the Navigation System reads it out to me. When we got there it said, starbucks now on your right. And, yeah. By then we could smell it anyway, couldnt we . When i was using the cane, it was always vibrating. Thats buzzing a lot. Is it . Yep. Yeah, the buzzing got really quick. So i knew that i was in front of something that was quite a large obstacle. This might be an improvement for some cane users, but personally, ive found the feedback slightly overwhelming. I could imagine it could probably get quite difficult to detect whats important and whats not important. I was excited to show maisy an app named microsoft soundscape that uses 30 sound to point you in the right direction. You can hear the sound as if its around you and its like youre in the software almost. Phone facing southwest along world piazza. When youre tuned in to the app, it will name nearby shops and restaurants. It even highlights whats on the pavement. Is there bike parking in front of us . One useful tool is the ability to set an audio beacon, say, if you want to find your local supermarket. 65 metres west. Its making this tip tap sound. Tapping sounds help guide us in the right direction, although we did manage to walk past the shop door. I think you dont quite believe that its to the right of you. At least we had our guide dogs to help us find the entrance. At home, some of the simplest tech can actually be the most useful. Beeping. But big tech companies, like apple, google and amazon are also trying to make their Technology Better for people like me. Most of the time, i use my smartphone and apple watch. Its so great that it can connect to my apple tv and you can get it to play your favourite moments. Lots of smart speakers now have audiobook services. One new and particularly unusual audiobook is called unseen. Its the first ever audio comic book. When you hear this sound. That is so cool. Cover the word unseen in bold letters. 0h, amazing no one ever does that thats the typeface. Describing the pictures and each panel, which is the big part of comic books. I cant wait for unseens creator, chad allen, to release the next segment. I dont know who the hell you are. Imitates i do not know who the hell you are i was also excited to try a new device from Bristol Braille technology. This device that i have in front of me is called the canute and this is the very first ever several line braille display. It sounds like a typewriter using buttons at the base of the device, you can upload books, pdfs and documents. The multi line layout is great forfeeling diagrams. Its an easier and quicker way to read. Thats nice that you can use Something Like this and not have audio on, constantly all the time. Are we reading braille . Yes. I was even more impressed with the next device we tried a pair of orcam smartglasses. These use a camera and Artificial Intelligence to read the text around you. And you can use touch, voice and gesture commands to change its settings. So what are you doing, maisie . So i have a magazine and if i point ata line. Reads i always say that there are. Its reading it we surprised maisie with a book from one of her favourite authors. Kaitlyn dunnett. Cool the orcam tells you the time. The time is 3 29pm. Yay and can name who is standing in front of you. Of course, i wanted to see if we could get it to recognise maisie. The device does this by remembering the unique points of a persons face, a bit like a map. Maisie. Oh, yeah high five, blind girl high five. We also tried a new feature the ability to scan food product barcodes. This was a hit. Tomato cup a soup remember to hold your item about a foot above the counter top. Alexa, what am i holding . I was really excited to test the new amazon echo show feature. You hold a food item in front of the screen camera and move it around until the device tells you what the item is. It was difficult knowing whether the item was centre screen, and this threw up some less than accu rate results. Show me another side. It looks like vanilla coca cola. Oh, my god. Thats cool. I have done that so many times like, ive picked up cherry diet coke by mistake. Yeah we also have been told that that wasnt vanilla coca cola and just regular coca cola. You would have to really nail getting your snapshots correct to find this useful. It was so great to try all the technology throughout the day. The wider the choice of tech, the better for everyone. Not everything today was a complete success, but the impact that blind tech can have continues to surprise me. Im really excited about the future of accessibility tech. Some fantastic innovations there, spen, and one thing becoming clear in this programme isjust how much is out there enabling people to be more empowered and to live more independently. And for people with learning disabilities, for example, there are plenty of innovations to help them do just that. Paul has been to meet someone for whom the internet of things is helping to make life just that little bit more easy. This is adam. Adam has down syndrome and lives in his own home, which includes some specially designed technology to allow him to live more independently. Here he is using a tablet that contains a range of bespoke applications to help him with tasks in everyday life. In this instance, cooking. So can you show me what youve got on here, adam . App sift three cups of plain flour into a big mixing bowl. Make a well in the centre of the flour. It shows step by step instructions with pictures. But the Technology Goes much further than just recipes. Its part of a project called connected living a partnership between the learning Disability Charity mencap and Telecoms Company vodafone. The platform utilises a range of technologies bundled together under one roof literally. App i am afraid. From smart home devices and iot based sensors to more simple reminders, to do lists and instructions. A lot of it is stuff that quite a lot of people are familiar with. Smart lighting is not a particularly new concept, smart locks are not a particularly new concept, but what we have done is we have packaged it altogether and put it into this user interface which has been tailored very specifically so it is user friendly and it is intuitive to use. We started off with a very, very long list of things these can be quite small things but things that people might want to achieve and then we gave the list to vodafone and we said what are the Technological Solutions to that . We whittled it down to the things we felt and we heard were most commonly going to be of importance to people. Technology is in all our lives, really, at the moment nowadays and will continue to be so, so we want to make sure people with learning disabilities are not disadvantaged by not being able to access technology. It is designed to be customisable to each individual user, with the hardware and software tailored to their needs and personal abilities. App i am thirsty. The platform blends smart Home Technologies with things adam can use outside the home too, such as video calling a support worker if he needs assistance, or as a communication aid. Hi there, you all right . Yeah, you . Good. What would you do with the options on this screen . Ok, so you can tell them where you want to go. Which are your favourite . What do you like to do the most . App lets go to the pub. Sounds good to me. Is that good . Do you like that . Laughter. Thats good we like tech too there are 4. 1 Million People in the uk with learning disabilities who could use this, but also there are wider applications. If you think about people who go into homes as they get older, they still want to be independent, they still need their flexibility, this can help them. You and i, we want to be independent, we want to do our own thing and actually, if technology can help people to do that, then it means that you have greater control, you are feeling more independent, and the amount of confidence that has really increased in people is fantastic. Most importantly of all, though, how does adam feel about his smart connected home . Supported, yeah. Mmm, supported. That was adam and his mum. Truly, truly lovely stuff. And we will continue to keep across all of this area of Inclusive Design and technology throughout the year, as we always do on click. This is the short version of this weeks click. The full version is waiting for you right now on iplayer. In it, you can see paul in iceland, looking at the design, manufacture and testing of the iconic prosthetic running blade. In the meantime, you can contact us with your thoughts of what youve seen on instagram, youtube, twitter and facebook. Thanks very much for watching and we will see you soon. Hello. For a large swathe of the uk it has been a cold, crisp saturday, although temperatures in places have struggled to get above freezing, rural scotland also where the fog has been slow to clear. This area of low pressure has brought some rain, bringing more cloud into the isles of scilly, devon, cornwall, the channel islands, may be the odd spot of rain. More cloud across southern parts of the uk, through the ceiling on overnight, fog will reform through the midlands, east wales and into northern england. Meanwhile our area of rain will start to pull away, taking the gusty winds with it, but still quite a breeze blowing across the southern part of the uk, frost not as sharp, either. Further north, one or two showers clipping northern and eastern parts of scotland, and another cold night, quite breezy as i mentioned, particularly for the southern half of the uk, so that will tend to keep things mixed up. It is still a cold night, a touch of frost for many, sharpest across northern england, Northern Ireland and scotland, where temperatures in places across rural scotland could get down to minus nine celsius again. This area pressure building from the west, building across much of the uk, and the fog should lift more readily thanks to the breeze, and for many of us it is a dry, bright day, good spells of sunshine, but still on the cold side. We are looking at 3 9dc tomorrow. As we go into monday for most, a cold and frosty start with a good deal of sunshine, the exception being the far north of scotland, outbreaks of rain turning persistent and heavy for the northern isles, elsewhere a good deal of sunshine, after that cold and frosty start, temperatures rising to between 6 10 celsius. For the week ahead, this area of High Pressure is extensive across much of the uk, but notice more of a breeze across the northern half of scotland, and also some fronts just starting to come through at times, particularly towards the end of the week, some of that rain could be heavy. For most we are seeing wet weather recently, things looking dry and cold at first, mild later. This is bbc news. Im shaun ley. The headlines at five cambridge graduate jack merritt has been named as one of the victims killed in yesterdays attack on london bridge. The 25 year old was working for one of the universitys education initiatives. Neil basu, from the met police, said he did not believe the attacker acted alongside anyone else but investigative teams are working to rule out a wider plot. Our investigative priority at this time is to ensure that there is no one related as an outstanding threat to the public. To this end, we carried out two searches at addresses both in staffordshire and in the stoke on trent area