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Ration of october seven but before we do that, lets get a check on the sport, and Olly Foster has that for us. Hello from the Bbc Sport Centre england have moved to the top of their group at the Womens T20 World cup. Their seven Wicket Victory over South Africa means that theyve won two out of two at the tournament in the united arab emirates. They lost the Toss And South africa chose to bat first in sharjah. England played a quartet of spinners, with player of the Match Sophie Eccleston taking two for 15 Off Herfour overs. Helping restrict South Africa to 124 6. England made a slightly sluggish start in the chase, but they reached their target in the final over, Nat Sciver Brunt with the winning Boundary And Unbeaten on 48. Their next match is on saturday against bottom of the Table Scotland who must first face South Africa on wednesday we have three World Class splinters who are usually in a team ended Lindsay Hasjust added to that, and made it really difficult for teams to get after people. In general, in womens cricket, there is a lot of Spin Bowling in the middle overs, so that has made it difficult to keep the momentum, so, so far the plan is working, but we obviously have one more game here and in a game in dubai as well, so we will work to assess that we get. The Test Series is under way in multan between Pakistan And England and its been a tough day for the tourists after winning the toss, pakistan batted first, batted very well on a pitch that gavce very little to the bowlers. Captain Shan Masood and Abdullah Shafique both making centuries. Englands fightback came in the final session with three wickets, pakistan closing on 328 4. Heres our Cricket Reporter stefan shemilt. England were really up against it in the afternoon session. The Home Captain making 151 for the chevy, the opener one 102 for the what england were eventually rewarded, they removed him back them in quick succession. To the second and late in the day chris woke batting, lbw. For pakistan to end on 328 for four, they certainly had the better of the days. England have got something to work on at The End of day two. An independent Arbitration Panel dealing with Manchester Associated Party transaction, apt, rules has published its citys legal challenge against the Premier Leagues associated party transaction, apt, rules has published its decision. Its upheld two of citys complaints but the league say . The overall objectives, Framework And Decision making of the Apt System has been endorsed. Kieran maguire is a Football Finance Expert at the university of Liverpool Manchester City will feel vindicated in the sense that they feel that the ept rules were introduced on the hoof and also there were notes that the Premier League has been proven to be delaying in terms of getting deals signed off and that has hit Manchester City commercially. Equally, the broad premise of should there be some form of rules in relation to Football Clubs having contracts, commercial deals, with people directly or indirectly linked to the owners . Has been upheld as well. The three time European Cup Winner And Legend of dutch Footballjohan Neeskens has died at the age of 73. The midfielder was part of the Ajax And Netherlands teams credited with creating Total Football in the 1970s. The dutch federation said the Football World had lost a legend. Neeskens was capped 49 times, helping them finish runners up at the 1974 and � 78 world cups. He made 140 appearances for barcelona, but was Most successful at ajax where he won the European Cup three times and the eredevisie twice five time World Champion Katie archibald will return to action at this Months Track Cycling world championships in denmark after recovering from the Freak Injury that ruled her out of the olympics. Archibald broke two bones in her leg and tore ligaments after tripping over a step in her garden injune. She is joined in the 23 strong squad by 11 olympic medallists from this summers games in paris, including Team Sprint champions emma finucane, Sophie Capewell and Katy Marchant not much Life Support about but plenty more on the Bbc Sport website, back in the next 30 minutes. Israel is a country still traumatised by the events of october seventh. Changed irrevocably by what unfolded. What confounds people is that israeli intelligence had no inkling of the plans of hamas, and yet as we have now discovered had thoroughly penetrated and outwitted hizbullah. Hezbollah. It has also sparked within the country a bitter debate about how best to respond. Whether to prioritise the complete destruction of hamas, or whether to now strike a deal to secure the release of the remaining hostages. This is now the longest war between israelis and arabs since The End of the conflict that set the boundaries of the israeli state in 1949. It is also by far the deadliest. Im joined now by the political analyst, Dahlia Scheindlin she joins us from tel aviv. Thank you for being with us. You have written plenty of books on politics and shifting political opinions, how do you think october seven has changed things in israel . We think october seven has changed things in israel . Things in israel . We are talkin things in israel . We are talking on things in israel . We are talking on the things in israel . We are talking on the very things in israel . We are talking on the very Day L things in israel . We are l talking on the very day of things in israel . We are talking on the very day of the year anniversary, and i think that right now the overriding feeling in israel is one of deep depression and pessimism, and very divided attitudes about the future of the country. We are seeing holding back those very dark approaches to the possible future of the country. People are spectacle skeptical about whether their kids in the future here. That is the first thing. Israel historically scores high on the Happiness Index are social resilience, and theres also a deep sense of social discord, the biggest changes there. In other ways, the biggest changes there. In otherways, i the biggest changes there. In other ways, i have to say that is not of what is happening, except extreme as it is, is being filtered through peoples and pre existing political frameworks, which is something ifind frameworks, which is something i find striking if a little frameworks, which is something ifind striking if a little bit complex to understand. People on the right think that israel must respond in the toughest possible military way, always take the Most extreme military path, conquerand take the Most extreme military path, conquer and annex more territory. People on the left are still on the left, including people in the center, who think the only way out of it is to reach diplomatic agreements, ultimately, the number of people who support a Palestinian State has certainly fallen, but from what we see in surveys, there is still a portion of who still believe the only way out is for palestinians to have Self Determination next to israel, of course was guaranteeing israels security, which is a much more overriding people feeling for those in the country, israelis and arabs alike. ~. ,. ,. , alike. We have had a day of, ration for alike. We have had a day of, ration for israelis alike. We have had a day of, ration for israelis lost, alike. We have had a day of, ration for israelis lost, but i ration for israelis lost, but we have not had a day of reckoning for the families involved, there is one today, the father of a soldier killed on 7th Of October and inquiry to find out who is accountable for what does going on. That is not happened. There are some in the west were deeply subsist fish suspicious that Benjamin Netanyahu is delaying that inquiry. Maybe his strategy no divers diverts from what is in these countries best interest. Iii from what is in these countries best interest. Best interest. If the West Susmcts best interest. If the west suspects that, best interest. If the west suspects that, they best interest. If the west suspects that, they are i best interest. If the west| suspects that, they are in best interest. If the west suspects that, they are in good majority with many of israelis who support an independent commission and inquiry. There been families who have held demonstrations and calls for this time after time. That is one thing that is a consensus in is really society but for very obvious reasons, the fact it is the biggest Security Reit Breach in israeli history, the greatest carnage and greatest number of casualties, but it is no secret that netanyahu is not doing that for his own purposes and another thing we know from polls is that a majority, ovaries over 60 of israelis believe that Benjamin Netanyahu was Decision Making is done by his wanting to stay in power. That includes things that wanted to avoid a Hostage Deal regarding a Cease Fire, and replacing his defense minister. Israelis think is Decision Making in general is affected, certainly and possibly driven by his personal but its gonna need to stay in power, and he is beholden to his Coalition Partners and will not diverge from what they say, though from my reading of him, he pretty much shares their views on Most things, so there is not much ideological discord within the coalition which gives them strong back into say it is the right thing to do. He goes back to the manager all year of saying they would investigate everything after the war, but as it every israel he knows, there is no and pointed a war, some are happy with that and some are not, but thatis with that and some are not, but that is the main excuse that netanyahu and all of his proxies has been saying all year. Proxies has been saying all ear. ,. ,. , proxies has been saying all ear,. ,. ,. , , proxies has been saying all ear. ,. , year. You alMost printed my next question, year. You alMost printed my next question, which year. You alMost printed my next question, which is year. You alMost printed my next question, which is what year. You alMost printed my i next question, which is what is the strategy and and game . I know there is deep disagreement within is really Society And Idf about what the strategy should be in gaza. Do you have thoughts on where the broadest support currently lies when it comes to a solution . For one thin , comes to a solution . For one thin, i comes to a solution . For one thing, i would comes to a solution . For one thing, i would like comes to a solution . For one thing, i would like to comes to a solution . For one thing, i would like to see thing, i would like to see there is a limitation on how much the public in the situation of severe trauma and the rest should be asked to charge the future of this war, when the political leadership should do it. What i see in surveys as there is not a very clear approach and is really minds as to what happens next. If you ask different things, you get attitudes all over the map because they are not seen any guidance from the leadership and the people who should be the experts, the people that the israeli public chose to lead them are not without any clear strategic vision and i think i know why. The israeli government before the were, when it was established at The End of 2022, and its governing islands which are written and public, says it wants to annex all Ofjudea And Samaria and somewhat different terms but very explicitly. There has been no attempt to hide some of the Coalition Partners wanting to conquer and annex and Re Settlements in gaza. It is not so popular to say in international circles, there have at times been large number of israelis who support that, but it is wavering and following what the political leaders are saying, and i think that the government has kind of seeing this as an opportunity to continue conquering more land and annexing it on the justification that they can be no Self Determination for palestinians, israel has to control everything. That is in relation to guys on the west bank, then there is a broader regional question and there israelis artists divided. Larger than you expected portion of israelis want israel to go in and occupy southern lebanon, some portions who support it strike all on iran under certain conditions, but the government is not giving them a competitive picture of our diplomatic into the conflicts, and the army is even criticizing seen everywhere has the and with the promisee and we do not see anything from this government. This government. Similar position this government. Similar position for this government. Similar position for many this government. Similar. Position for many western governments as well, to talk to you again dahlia, and we will talk to you again shortly, i am sure. Around the world and across the uk. This is bbc news. Most Military Analysts would tell you that israel has crushed hamas, killing Most of its leadership and many of its fighters. It has bombed every part of the territory at least once, blocking routes by which hamas might smuggle in new weapons. And that has had a devastating impact on the people of gaza. First it was the northern town of Beit Hanoun that was hit. Gaza city was pounded. Hundreds of thousands of people fled, as they were intstructed, To Khan Younis and rafah. Before the Bombing Spread to the south, too. By The End ofjanuary more than half of gazas buildings had been damaged or destroyed. Israel will not allow journalists into gaza. That includes the bbc. And so Fergal Keane has been talking to some of the people affected. His report does rely on material gathered by trusted locals on the ground. A year of the sights and sounds of war. For the last 12 months, our cameras recorded the lives of gazans under fire. Now weve gone back to find some of those people. Last february, near rafah, two israeli hostages were rescued from hamas captivity. More than 70 gazans were reported killed. Abed Alrahman Al Najjar was a Farm Labourer and father of seven. He was hit by shrapnel in front of his family in a refugee tent. Translation what was his fault . What was his Childrens Fault . Whats my fault . Nawara, 27, was six months pregnant. Several of the children were wounded. 13 year old malak lost an eye. Translation im in pain. I lost my dad. Enough now, eight months later, malak is caring for a new baby sister, rahma. Translation we feel Tenderness And Love towards her. I love her so much in a way no one else knows. Sibling solidarity essential for a family displaced four times since the war began. Translation as a child who lost an eye, lost a father, i carry a pain that even mountains cannot bear. In gaza, theres nowhere to run. Not from the war or loss. Translation every day | sit| by myself, bring up his name, talk to him and cry. I feel like hes aware of everything im going through. I tell myself i need to be patient for the sake of my children. Injuly, a grieving mother. Translation i constantly see the dog tearing at him and his hand and the blood pouring from his hand. In the suburb of shejaiya, the israeli army said it detected hamas fighters in this building during intensive fighting. Like here on a different operation, they used dogs to search. When troops entered, they found Muhammed Bharand his family. The Search Dog attacked muhammed, who had Downs Syndrome and autism. Translation it stays in front of my eyes the whole time. It never leaves me at all. We couldnt save him, neither from them or from the dog. The troops gave muhammed some basic treatment. Two of his brothers were arrested. His family was ordered to leave. But the soldiers then left the wounded muhammed alone in order, they said, to help troops who had been attacked nearby. A week later, when fighting here ended, the bhars returned to find muhammed dead. This is the bloodstained sofa where the dog attacked him. Three months on, Muhammeds Room has been left in darkness. Brotherjibreel says the soldiers abandoned his disabled sibling and wants an independent investigation. Translation they could have treated him much better than they did, but theyjust than they did, but theyjust put some gauze on him, as if put some gauze on him, as if they did a quick, carelessjob. They did a quick, carelessjob. Whether he lived or died didnt whether he lived or died didnt seem to matter to them. Seem to matter to them. At the time, the army said it to go to the cemetery here. At the time, the army said it regretted any harm to civilians regretted any harm to civilians in combat operations, in combat operations, and Accused Hamas of using and Accused Hamas of using them as human shields. Them as human shields. Muhammed is buried in muhammed is buried in an alley beside his home. An alley beside his home. The war means its not safe the war means its not safe to go to the cemetery here. Muhammed, his sister here singing him a lullaby, and malak, who lost her father, are just two stories of gaza out of many thousands. And the war goes on. Fergal keane, bbc news. The Opposition Politician Benni Gantz a former minister of defence, argued in the nyt this weekend that iran has built a Ring Of Fire around his country. Feeding the proxies, refusing to accept israels right to exist. This, as the israelis see it, is a once in a Generation Chance to effect real change. Now is the time says Benni Gantz, to build a western alliance to confront iran. But if they take the maximalist approach to iran, they risk dragging the united states into a wider conflict, which the White House says it doesnt want. The former united States Ambassador to the United Nations Mark Wallace is with us. He served in the administration for george w bush. He is now the Ceo Ceo of united against nuclear iran. Thank you for coming in the programme. Would you support an attack on irans nuclear facilities . I attack on irans nuclear facilities . Attack on irans nuclear facilities . ~ , facilities . I think it is very clear, this facilities . I think it is very clear, this is facilities . I think it is very clear, this is a facilities . I think it is very clear, this is a very facilities . I think it is very. Clear, this is a very somber day, a year ago Today Iran caused the greatest loss of life to the jewish caused the greatest loss of life to thejewish people since the holocaust and ignited a war in the Middle East. Hamas declared war on israel, Thing Orjoin that war on october eight, and they were known as the axis of iran. What they real r is the axis of canon footer. The ayatollah uses these proxy groups to spread hard to hate and violence across the region, Healing Americans and israelis and westerners, while they themselves die. The Malign Actor is iran and i think military targets inside iran, including nuclearfacilities, because they are maintained and operated by the irgc, are legitimate targets of not only israel but the night is states of america and the west. There are ros of america and the west. There are pros and of america and the west. There are pros and cons of america and the west. There are pros and cons for of america and the west. There are pros and cons for every are pros and cons for every Target Set in iran and i wonder with you as an american would support the israelis going after the nuclear facilities . Support the israelis going after the nuclearfacilities . I after the nuclear facilities . I would afterthe nuclearfacilities . I would support that. There are many targets, what you say is right, there are pros and target cons to targets across iran, said sadly, iran is. The importance of degrading Irans Missile Capability and capacity to do harm in the region is essential, and that includes certain nuclear facilities which are spinning advanced centrifuges to enrich highly enriched any uranium for no other reason that i military purpose. That ballistic attack we saw in israel recently was quite horrific, imagine if there were nuclear weapons. You must appreciate there were nuclear weapons. You must appreciate the silos where they do this are deep underground and are questions about the is really capability of reaching all of it, and if they do not reach all of it, there is a risk that they rush for a nuclear bomb would send off a nuclear Arms Race in the Middle East, and i wonder if thatis Middle East, and i wonder if that is something you could support. That is something you could su ort. , that is something you could suuort. ,. , support. That is certainly it nor the question, support. That is certainly it nor the question, i support. That is certainly it nor the question, i dont i nor the question, i dont Support Iran getting in nuclear weapon,. D0 Support Iran getting in nuclear weapon. Support iran getting in nuclear weapon,. Weapon,. Do you see the risk that might weapon,. Do you see the risk that might develop weapon,. Do you see the risk that might develop from weapon,. Do you see the risk that might develop from going| that might develop from going after that facility and not getting all of it was to mark . I think iran has nuclear facilities and their activities have caused It Region to be inflamed, and it is reminded all of us we must do more on the nuclear programme, that includes the united states and western partners and is rather striking those facilities to buy more time because iran is an ideology. The hubris of the bbc, other wet other western networks, and all the west, is that the ideology of iran is something that we can superimpose the rationale of a Cease Fire and a neutral negotiation. Ceasefire and a neutral negotiation. Ceasefire and a neutral negotiation. Ceasefire and a neutral neuotiation. ,. , negotiation. That was not the hubfis negotiation. That was not the hubris of the negotiation. That was not the hubris of the bbc, negotiation. That was not the hubris of the bbc, there negotiation. That was not the hubris of the bbc, there was | negotiation. That was not the | hubris of the bbc, there was a hubris of the bbc, there was a hubris of the bbc, there was a hubris of Barack Obama who signed a deal in 2015 which President Trump then ripped up, which some would say in the aftermath the sanctions he impose further antagonize the resume to the point where it was flooded in the Middle East with weapons. I wonder whether you think that decision ultimately brought us to this Point Westmark . Ultimately brought us to this Point Westmark . Absolutely not, we sopported Point Westmark . Absolutely not, we supported the Point Westmark . Absolutely not, we supported the obama we supported the Obama Administration it, and he said that iran would rejoin the community of nations if the general pca was entered into, and it allowed an industrial scale nuclear programme to exist. No national nuclear scientists would support a reintroduction into that act because it allows iran to do things far beyond any nuclear enrichment programme, it was the ideal then and it is now, and it addresses the hubris of notjust and it addresses the hubris of not just the and it addresses the hubris of notjust the bbc, im not being critical of the bbc, its our superimposition of western values, we might disagree on something, we dont know there, but because of the general laying of western values, we we can negotiate and find compromise. When a Regime Exist solely for the elimination of her and that the people, it is very hard to strike an agreement with someone that calls for your extermination. And that is it, we dont know Each Other and might disagree, but we can hash it out and compromise, when eric hoffer,. Compromise, when eric hoffer,. I compromise, when eric hoffer. Compromise, when eric hoffer,. Compromise, when eric hoffer,. ,. ,. , hoffer,. I have to bring a short mark. Hoffer,. I have to bring a short mark. This hoffer,. I have to bring a short mark. This regime i hoffer,. I have to bring a. Short mark. This regime has made is really short mark. This regime has made is really people short mark. This regime has made is really people and i made is really people and jewish people the devil, and we saw that one year ago today, and we cant lose sight of that. Good evening. Its been a pleasant Autumn Day in the sunshine, but Shower Clouds gathered as we went through the afternoon. Thats going to be the story over the next few days. In actualfact, we keep the showery theme and the mild theme. But towards The End of the week, cooler winds and stronger winds are set to arrive. So weve still got this area of low pressure with us at the moment, and thats driving these frontal systems around that area of low. So for the next few hours we could see some really intense thundery downpours developing, moving out of south West England and wales, up into the midlands and the north of england. They will continue to push their way steadily northwards during the early hours of thursday morning, further showers tucking into the southwest with the cloud and the showers around we keep double digits. A slightly cooler start into scotland so first Thing Tomorrow Morning weve got that rain through northern ireland, Northern England drifting towards the scottish borders. This is the dividing line. Weve got this Cool Northeasterly Flow Developing in scotland, a little bit quieter and drier here but not quite as mild further south. Plenty of frequent showers. Again, we Cant Rule out the Odd Rumble of thunder, but in the sunnier moments it will still be pleasantly warm for this stage of the year. Now, im sure youve heard us talking about Hurricane Kirk and the impact that thats going to have across the uk. Its lost its hurricane status. Its moving across the cooler waters, still set to push to the south of the uk, Impacting Northern Spain and france. But were still going to feel the effects of this storm because as it continues to drift its way steadily east, thats going to allow that Cooler Air to push the warm air back to the near continent. So as we go through the day on wednesday, theres still a risk of some Heavy Rain and rough seas close to the Channel Islands and the kent coast. A northerly wind will drive in a few scattered showers across the North Sea Coast as well, the cool air not really arriving yet. 14 to 17 degrees here, but noticeably colder in scotland. And as we go out of wednesday into thursday, Gale Force gusts of winds are going to push plenty of frequent showers steadily south. There will be some sunny spells, but it will be a Cooler Story for all. And in fact, temperatures are likely to peak between eight and 12 degrees, a little bit below par for where we should be at this stage in october. And then as we move through friday into saturday, a brief Ridge Of High Pressure builds across england and wales quietening things down. Hello, im christian fraser. Youre watching the context on bbc news. Translation we are not deterred translation we are not deterred. We translation we are not deterred. We have translation we are not deterred. We have stood l deterred. We have stood strongly together to defend and protect our homeland. Taste strongly together to defend and protect our homeland. We could not imagine protect our homeland. We could not imagine that protect our homeland. We could not imagine that after protect our homeland. We could not imagine that after a protect our homeland. 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