Transcripts For BELARUSTV 20240703

His senator, in addition, what are you talking about, that is, they will not let him leave the program , lets say, out of the game, but i would be here again i would repeat this wording earlier, literally half a year ago, this was categorically denied, but in reality the conflict in ukraine is not a conflict between russia and ukraine , it is a conflict between the National State of russia and the owners of transnational ones. Uh, financial corporations look here, what else do you know the financial oligarchy that controls, uh, the state apparatuses of the us uk eu and is waging this war. And this is a very important point and look how interesting they are now turning. Closer closer to the elections are coming to ukrainians, including the senators of the state russian museum, he says that elections cannot be canceled in the same interview that we have already talked about today, he makes it clear. It is very cunning in his usual manner that i will not give up the money put on weapons in order to spend them on a choice. That is , he understands that the chair is rocking very seriously. Naturally, even more so , he can earn money on weapons for his colleagues and from the same financial oligarchs. Its profitable, it pushes him to the polls then. But still, it seems to me that there is a certain desire for western. Elites build a frame for zelensky we see that he periodically breaks down and begins to accuse their claims of making malmar. A little little money, here, and here it is, well, in general, it formats it rigidly, if it is customary for them to perform certain ritual actions under the guise of elections, then they need to be performed and, accordingly, you need to fulfill the conditions in order to receive the next portion of money weapons, that is, they keep him in control mode. And naturally. Uh, the elite in kiev wanted. As if under the guise wars, uh, the imposition of martial law , cancel all elections and further toughen that totalitarian regime. Yes, so that there werent any at all, but opportunities to somehow move this power. They stayed there, if not forever, then for as long as they were supposed to be there, so this is a struggle, including for control. Yes, so that they are more obedient ukrainian politicians specifically zelensky well, so that the american senators are representatives of the oligarchs. Still , they were confident in the correct investment of their money. Me here i completely agree with this evaluation. I would just add one such aspect here, the thing is that the western elites, they are used to the show, they have long ago turned the election process into a show to paint it even the term is. Strictly speaking, the western researchers of the country. After democracy. There has already left the democratic process and replaced by certain so to speak, ritual ritual is a very good word. Alexey said, and here the same thing. Uh, the ukrainian authorities say, why would we be hypocritical . Lets cancel elections , so to speak, this is a more radical position. A they say no, lets do it beautifully. Lets just falsify them, but you mean that we are not talking about any free , honest elections that could move this government at least one iota, neither in the first nor in the second case. Will be the fathers trisha. Uh, again in washington, uh, again, clearly not in a democratic way, but for reasons of expediency, if zelensky does not work out effectively enough the task that comes from there to replace him. Well here, uh, from the fact that for us an important mood signal. Uh, at least here is an autotraining for the ukrainian population, which zelensky voiced from a long war. This is a signal to us that we must not lower our combat readiness as one of the factors of our security. Well, probably along with the fact that we have Tactical Nuclear weapons. These , of course, are those joint actions that are being taken on our military together with a dude, and but we saw that after the death of prigozhin, there were a lot of assumptions about the fate of the wagnerites on our territories and Alexander Lukashenko dotted all over and i propose to listen to this issue, then we will discuss this topic, too , wagner lived in adler and wagner will live in belarus, no matter how much someone would like it, we shot with prigozhin and everyone. How will wagner be located with us and these pictures from space that we are dismantling something . Why are we removing extra tents, we dont need so many of these tents. So much is not needed here remains the core. Uh, someone left. Here on vacation. Uh, someone, uh, in general, decided to live on the sidelines, but the phones password addresses. In this headquarters in this core are known within a few days everyone will be here up to 10,000 people. Now there is no need to keep them, so they do not run anywhere as much as we need, and i will not live and work here for this unit. I have such a question. Hmm and for whom in the first place Alexander Lukashenko thats all. Eh, he says. Who do you think these words are addressed to . Hmm, but it seems to me that there is an internal recipient of this information , both externally and internally russia had many questions about what would happen to wagner after the tragic death of the leadership. And, of course, they are closely following the fate of these people in our western direction in poland, especially. Yes , for them this is just an existential factor. I watch as a result of the elections. I think it even depends on where you move. Wagner is there, in which part of belarus, of course, this is also manipulation. They sell fear. They sell threats to their population. Yes, and on this they are trying to raise the rating of the ruling party. And by the way, it turns out, yes, because intimidate they can do it anyway. But in fact , the president , as always, in such a not manner , dot all the points, that is, these people will help our army. They will perform certain tasks that we will need, but naturally, we do not plan aggressive actions, but we see perfectly what is happening there and therefore , uh, such formation as one of the tools is far from superfluous, especially in the conditions of these hybrid conflicts when it is not clear who can penetrate the territory, when the state is denied from, say, military formations very often and we see this happening all over the world, so i think that these people will be useful for us, some of them will really work with us. Well, some of it is optional. Uh, also contracts are different, including in africa, but if necessary, we heard, they can be collected. We are very fast. Yes, i absolutely agree with this approach. And here i just highlighted the main point. Why the death of the leader wagner will not affect the effectiveness of the organization the thing is that, like any pmc institution, it is organized in such a way that one person, escaping and disappearing, does not break the entire Organizational Team structure. This is always thought through, always done, and therefore, beyond any doubt, the wagner pmc will continue to function as efficiently without prigozhin, the second moment that needs to be determined. I think its important to emphasize this. Although this is a moment, it can be painful even for the Belarusian Society , the thing is that we are not ready to actively defend our homeland. I very often ask this question in the audience. We are ready to take up arms to defend our country. Army, yes, and the president must be given credit for doing. Everything possible goes to any steps in order to prevent an open Armed Conflict along the perimeter of our border, thereby saving both the population and society. Remember in your time. He asked the question that sovereignty is worth a lot. We are ready to pay for this sovereignty. Heres the question today. E, the meaning of this question begins to unfold e completely and the appearance of Tactical Nuclear weapons and chvker are essentially measures that are aimed at making any conflict in god our borders impossible. It plays a very Important Role here. Why because its 10,000 people who have gone through a real buoy collision. They are worth much more than, uh, the entire baltic army and half of the polish one. And this means that their appearance here balances the offensive potential of the defense and, in principle, makes any adventures. In this direction , meaningless. We said, but you need to say and b e college, we touched on the topic, pmc wagner i i understand perfectly well, but the number of versions of the reasons for this plane crash, which, well, happened suddenly and for many it was a shock of confusion, but for someone it became a reason to carry out their special psychological operations, but nevertheless, how it would be impossible not to touch on this topic from all versions. Which one seems most plausible to you, if you follow the logic, who benefits . Well, the first thing i will say is, uh, the most implausible version. It still seems to me involvement version. Uh, the actual russian leadership, firstly, because there is no longer such a need. Yes, all these events with the rebellion left, and prigogine has already integrated himself into some new system of relations. In principle, it would satisfy. It seems to me that the authorities in russia and this is the first. That is, i dont see such a rational or some other motivation for it to be according to this version, but there are other versions, at least. Yes, heres the most exotic one for me, but the version with wagners activity in africa still seems interesting, and we know that there is such an interesting country in france with a very long tradition. Here are similar colonial traditions, including massacres, here over similar people over others. Yes, this is the version. Here it seems to me, quite interesting, the second. This, of course, we do not yet know the details of the investigation. But what is surfacing now is that this bomb was probably planted on earth. Yes, the fact that some kind of employee was bribed, or was there a technical one or not . This suggests that all the same, this is an agent, for example, ukrainian, which operates there, she is very active. This, too, cannot be stitched together and discarded, plus in the same place, perhaps, an integrated approach, lets say. Yes, that is, the western Intelligence Service takes the ukrainian one in a row, their interests coincide and they are engaged in similar actions, therefore , it seems to me that we still need to look for a foreign trace due to the very great danger of wagner both in ukraine and lets say in africa i agree with these ratings. I wont even guess. Which version is correct. Eh why . Because this should answer this question should give a consequence, but it is important, i want emphasize. Uh, another point is that this death did not lead to a decrease in the defense potential, not for pmcs, nor for russia or belarus, this will not be a negative consequence of any complication of the internal political situation in our countries. And this means that the result in any case is not achieved. Moving on, not only ukraine in the neighborhood partially. This was touched upon to the west, another initiative similar to fence building. Now not exclusively, polish, national fun were pulled and other heads of the ministry of the interior were doing your latvia gathered more and adopted a terrible statement to close the border with belarus in the event of a critical incident. Moreover, in addition to the two checkpoints closed on august 18, lithuania is going to close two more. Here i am telling you what to think about it. Well, you know, if you say so, after all, to speculate a little, i sometimes think that the balts are the political elite of the baltics, after all, they are not independent in the same way. They also receive instructions from external centers of power in the same way. Thats how they envy zelensky or not . On the one side it seems not, they dont have a war and the situation is simpler on the other side. It seems that they are jealous. Why . Because a lot can be attributed to the war, you can easily intimidate alex here , his own population is absolutely right. And you can make a lot of money. And so, sometimes it seems to me that they are deliberately compensating for the absence of a war for this escalation of tension when they are trying to create some kind of nervous situation from scratch. Well, i also agree that they sometimes succeed. Well, judging by the interest shown by the lithuanians to a trip to belarus, it is more likely that they are not closing our citizens from their own. This is a different aspect. The point is that when lithuanians come here they see wellbeing in a peaceful life, and yes, and simply a different lifestyle, a different state of mind, yes even among the people of the population, then this is certainly a very serious destabilizing fact. From the president of lithuania to the seat, he probably understood what this could lead to, or thought about zelensky and decided for himself that, probably, after all, the military prospect is not so attractive as it seemed. Previously, he urged not to organize a campaign to close control of checkpoints on the border with belarus, and he says so, it is necessary to assess the inconvenience for residents, and then, as if by chance and possibly losses. Naturally, because this is the rhetoric that sounds from warsaw from the baltic capitals. Yes, while they cause inconvenience to a greater extent, citizens. Moreover, our own, especially specifically the baltic countries, where the flow, and as a result, without a visa to our country is very serious and indeed the atmosphere striking, just recently , a wellknown journalist from riga, yuri alekseev, came to me and he looked at how he lives in minsk, he was shocked. Well, that is a comparison of religion. Minsk is impossible in some comparative way. Yes, because there is really quite a depressive, constantly disturbing atmosphere, forcing up this military hysteria, and here is a calm peaceful life of people, and they live, as usual, develop everything in abundance. And this, of course, surprises in a good way, lets say our friends from the baltics, but a should be said, what is it about, if, as a result of these actions, yeah, we listen carefully to what the representatives of the polish government say, they will block the continental transit, then this is a conflict not only with belarus, we understand that this is a conflict even more with china, and here i understand that it s not the poles themselves the balts are striving for this. There are serious competitors, primarily in britain in america, who need only maritime trade and not the development of continental routes. And here the question is they are ready to turn into a dead end in logistical terms, yes or, all the same, they will try to say a lot of terrible words, but they will leave at least the main highways of continental significance. I think in the end it will be this is the second one, but there will be a lot of words of threats. Although we see that sometimes they are already beginning to think again and understand how this, in principle, can end. Well, you need pears. Here is an interesting opinion of the editorinchief balt nyusha Andrey Starikov on this matter. Uh, he says that this is first of all blackmail and secondly a beautiful picture and emotions. This is a story for western sponsors, who should see that the ukrainian problem is also linked to the eastern flank of nato, which is also fighting with russia from belarus, the sellers of fear are a very good image. E, alexei suggested and lets continue in this sense. Here again , there is nowhere to escape from the wagnerites, in general, it is more very seriously stressing on this score. And i must say that our whites still periodically add fuel to the fire with this, that they write in their publications, referring to them, the ministry of internal affairs of belarus has been issuing wagner passports with changed names for a month now, but just a thriller, but with all the absurdity there is, after all, a reason to worry about a simple pole. And this is how we understand that the elections are ahead. We understand that guys. Here is this trio of duda ant kachinsky tuned. They definitely lack brutality, they lack justification. Why all these expenses . Why did the army grow in you why they spend more on weapons than on the social sphere . And they may well not organize some kind of terrorist attack with the mythical wagner wagnerites . Hide behind to say that well, here, you see, it is necessary arm even more, and the probability is high. It would not be superfluous to talk about such things about such a direction. Well, unfortunately, i think there is a possibility. I dont presume to estimate how high, but the struggle there is very sharp, i must admit, and they are doing everything to snatch this victory. Control completely all branches of power. Now the situation is shaky, because competitors are also stepping on their heels. At the same time, competitors are growing. Lets just say from the side of a third force, the so called confederations are even more right, but it is precisely in favor of the sovereignty of poland from they really dont like the eu. Thats how much more bogged down the euroatlantic structure is. They are trying to play. In more such a right , even a conservative policy, but at the same time defending the national polish interests is a plus. Slogans of 0 problems with neighbors are periodically heard there, which, lets say, falls very much on many poles. It is necessary to get tired of the soul, after all, people are there and from this eternal confrontation of the unknown in this situation. Yes, in order to finally terrorize their population, Something Like this can happen, or some kind of incident on the border, they can arrange. That is, here the arsenal is large, we just need to understand that it is possible that anything can be expected from those people, but again, the fact that more sensible forces are beginning to appear in polish society has not been discarded. This does not mean that they are our likeminded people, but in any case, if there is interest in some kind of partnership , at least there, and this should be welcomed by two neighboring states. And it seems to me that such forces will also gain momentum. I think that well i absolutely agree. And i want to say that this is now the period of the greatest. Well, if i may, so to speak , vulnerabilities, uh, and prospects to spoil the situation. Eh, i can put it this way until the end. Eh, in ukraine this period will continue as soon as the goals of freedom are finally achieved. Uh, the likelihood of any provocations or Armed Conflict in other areas in our region as a whole will be drastically reduced. We really need to be vigilant. Here for this period. Well, interesting pattern, the louder the doors slam in the west, the wider they swing open in the east and in general , as they now say in the global south to the most Important International event, brix themselves key points, according to experts, the bloc secures geopolitical control, over the middle east oil triangle of saudi arabia arab emirates of iran and everything is going meanly so far. We dont need the dollar plus egypt this is control over your own channel. The second important factor in the wounds finally shook up the image of an outcast here, who years, the west has been creating the third argentina and latin america as a whole are gaining the pace of exit from the sphere of us control and finally a demonstration that russias position is strong. Johana prefabricated or is it too loud prematurely, while you need to give time to look, if you do the binding exactly the assembly, that is, the movement has already begun. Well, plus such an increase. Yes, the movement has begun. Serious enough. Yes, the brix expansion is a step in that direction. But this is one of the steps. This is not yet a fundamental change in the situation, but without a doubt. This is what surprises me, even the very fact of consolidation. In general, the countries are very different poli agenda with very different interests, absolutely uncoordinated Economic Policy is called, well, in a certain way. One might even say panic in the west. It is rather a sign that the collective west does not feel confident in its future, that their positions are much more precarious than we are used to. Think. This is very interesting. Confirmation. You will continue as a director in crystallina. Georgieva offers the International Financial system to buckle up in the publication of foreign and ferris, and says that a number of powerful forces stimulate the fragmentation of the world economy, you understand . Here is a very interesting point. It changes the cause and effect of not powerful forces stimulating the fragmentation of the economy. And uh, the same countries of the collective west have brought the Economic System of the world to a situation where the situation becomes inevitable and objective process there is no getting away from this, and by and large the reaction of both russia and china and , in fact, all the countries that have become brix that have applied for brix is ​​an attempt to escape. Uh, in the process of this destruction, protecting ones own interests is another matter, that the position of the imf is a little different here. This movement is the inevitability of changing the global Economic System. And she begins to speak very carefully, but if the situation the accountant will change, but the accountant will still be needed. We dont need to be thrown out. We will come in handy, we will count the currencies of the brix countries, we will create a new financial system. There is such, in my opinion, we have in the cinema. Dont shoot pianists. He plays the best he can. Here she sends. It sends a signal, of course, very much. And diplomatically very carefully. Uh, good such a diplomatic practice, which i have encountered many times in my biographies, but they already declare that they are ready to serve the interests of other players. Yes, its clear . Well, i think that the trend is definitely obvious, this is such a drift. Let and slow centers of power. Uh, east and south and its a very interesting process here. We observe. Well, something that probably happens once every 500 years, yes, when the leader changes. But this happens over a long period. We are probably at the beginning, but it is extremely interesting that this is the nervous reaction of the west. That is , it is so used to its exclusivity that these challenges are symbolic so far to a greater extent of the unification of countries outside the west, and i liked the statement. The representative of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs who said that, apparently, the countries of the west will never enter the brix. Why, but, because we are partners against each other, cannot impose sanctions. And this is such a very important moral and ethical message that here we are organizing, lets say , the world order or some kind of prototype of it under different rules. It may be such an idealistic idea, but this is a very clear message west. You have fenced yourself off from the majority of the world and now you will be isolated for us brix is ​​the first turn that for us brix in the first place. It seems to me at the moment. This is an opportunity to build up economic cooperation, because now there are, and these processes of coordination of consolidation are underway, indeed , economies, different continents, different logistics there, in general, what should be in order to organize communication between these countries, but, nevertheless. Us is able to calmly without sanctions. Uh, without political pressure to look for partners to look for new markets, and plus, of course, both the political and diplomatic platform to voice their initiatives to promote integration solutions, which, perhaps, we have already tested and have an idea of ​​how what works and this tribune. E for well a significant part, if not more of humanity. This is very important , because where else can we voice something really important for the planet, because he, but we see how many decisions are blocked there, so here in many ways. We can voice our voice, seriously. What fundamentally new opportunities does this give us . Well i wouldnt talk about some fundamentally new opportunities. In fact , the union state with russia and the joint formation of our own macroregion give us fundamentally new opportunities, fundamental really serious opportunities. Since we are talking about this topic. Here is the core. We need to get to become part of the core of a new macroregion, because in the bucket, there is always a higher standard of living and a faster pace of development, and brix for us is a tool for stabilizing this transition, stabilizing the formation, which allows one parties to ensure predictable supplies of belarusian products, primarily outside the country, which was very rightly said do not put forward political conditions. This is a very important point. And this is an opportunity to make this transition to a multipolar world more predictable and not bloody, because from the west there is no doubt another strategy. They understand that they cannot launch neoglobalization on their own terms. And this means that they will create conflicts. As much as possible in all parts world, this means that we will still go through a very difficult period. Tests. Brix will allow, uh, to torpedo this strategy to smooth out this transition, damn it, and the sco, and the sco these are all these two tools. Yes, i would not even begin to completely discount Traditional International organizations. Like, hes still there. There are still instruments of influence and they are able to consolidate the people of the country, who are interested in such a more favorable development, as i say. Creating a world for everyone, and not for the chosen ones. Well, thank you. Thank you very much. Andrey vladimirovich alexey valeryevich for participating in our Program People living in harmony with nature with the hungry, well , everything is green usyk is our carriage of such hairs. You kollednits not shmat. We each have yards and gardens. What a beauty. This is polissya. This is the nature here, quietly calmly. Well , it turns out that khomyakova and belarusians live, and the cunning leaves are the main wealth of their humanity and freedom. My favorite pastime was to take leaky cats and walk them around. This is how crucian carp got there on the grass small. For what from my mother i got it great, watch the draft policy on belarus 24 tv channel. We continue to have one more guest with us today in touch with the studio personality. A multifaceted russian intelligence officer, writer, brilliant political scientist, a huge audience knows and loves him as a lecturer who is able to simply talk about complex things. What is it that we often lack clarity in these turbulent news flows, so we are really glad to see our guest today as a professor of the hemomember of the presidium of advice on foreign defense policy russia Andrey Bezrukov Andrey Olegovich hello, thank you for finding time for us. Good afternoon, i propose to start with ukraine. Here is such a topic, the essence of which can be formulated in this way, fatigue from the ukrainian agenda. Here the counteroffensive failed with pinpoint bites by drones, as deliveries of leopards do not change the picture. And we see that the ukrainians themselves are tired. In your opinion, why is the world so abruptly ceasing to be centric . Is it a natural process or is it more of an informationpsychological maneuver before sudden actions, as in the sport of feint, you look to the left and hit to the right, i will try to tell what i think about it. First, ukraine is a project. This project is not ukrainian. Unfortunately, the ukrainians themselves have very little to do with this project. This is an antirussian project, i will tell you belarusians, by the way, too. Built by the west this project , like all projects, lives from time to time, as long as it is needed. And the tragedy of ukraine is that it has become a project. That its elites could not build a country that has permanent ones . Forces of attraction constant interests constant understanding of their place in the world, which would become permanent but in the absence of this they are content with the project. Does the project have a beginning and an end . And now we already feel this end, what about those who built this project and who paid for it . He sees what they got from this project. Well, almost everything you could get. And since its scary to go further, im talking about nuclear war. And in general, they never had such thoughts, they needed to make several very clearly associated with this to milk europe with a project of things to weaken russia to pull out everything that can be pulled out of good things from ukraine and to leave as they left afghanistan vietnam and all other things when their interests no longer coincide with this project. And because its a project . Everyone understands that this project is nearing its end. And there is fatigue from him, because there are no forces that are capable or ready to take up to him and pull him to the end through his whole life through the whole history, and so on and so forth. It will be abandoned as soon as it is no longer needed. Here you go, if we talk about ukraine as a project, we see the appetites of warsaw , which it does not hide, and it looks in and on the territory of belarus in the nato camp, ukraine may have recently hinted, 115 nato a new exchange for concessions to the territory, and russia but words are one thing and real deeds are another thing. Heres to your point of view. Andrei olegovich, how high is the probability of the collapse of ukraine . It is great precisely because it is a project. Do you know that ukraine has had several attempts in history to make a country out of itself . And all these attempts ended with one ended with the fact that someone with stronger elites, and ukraines problem is the lack of its own national elite. With an understanding of where they wanted to lead the country, who they are, they are east or west or Something Else. And just like ukraine has always been divided over the past, well, 400 years, i guess. She is divided now. And the division of ukraine according to those that make up its cultural block. He is closer the weaker the Central Government becomes and the weaker the understanding of the elite becomes, where to lead this country further, so the collapse of the country is possible . And in general he logical. After all, this is how ukraine lived for many years, there is an attraction to different west to east , i can say about hungary, about transcarpathia and so on, right . I cant say thats the way it will be. But the potential is there. Its absolutely exactly. There are countries. Take poland the same, despite the fact that its borders have changed a lot. I cannot say that poland consists of different parts, which can suddenly be pulled apart, even if someone comes. Russia cannot be pulled apart. But ukraine can part. And reverse the process has not yet been completely lost, if the chance of ukraine is still from the category of a project country of a project to go, but to the category of a fullfledged state and country. Here is what is needed for this and not a missed moment. I think hes already gone. There was a moment when ten years ago, probably, when it was possible to concentrate and consolidate the elite on some kind of understanding. Well, i dont know, that is, such a bridge between east and west, or Something Else with those huge ones. Well, how can i say this in a beautiful land in a beautiful climate with the industry that was created under the soviet union, ukraine was, well, a tasty morsel, or something, for everyone, it was actually beautiful. But i think the chance is now open. The leadership that is now, it will go away, it will go away. Crisis, but she will leave in a bad way. And this means a chance for someone to stay and keep. Is minimal to other topics. The more we look at the confrontation on the ukrainian front in general, the clearer, of course, the understanding that ours is not about moscow and kiev, but about the birth of a new world order, and today this request for new world. It is no longer just even in the air, but every day we hear such blows on the battery. The next one was the other day in johannesburg. Brix himself passed there, which the builders themselves called themselves. Theres an extension of the journalists that the experts who watched called all this a challenge that the global south is throwing down by the global west. This is how you see it, we are truly entering a new age now. Absolutely you know our era can be compared with what it was 100 years ago. This is a transition from one world order to another, and he and technological it and political it and its economic now we will have a different economic picture of the world. Look, after all, the center of gravity is the center of industry, the center of the dynamics of the International Economy goes to the east. And thats where we re seeing growth, thats where were seeing big countries and india china indonesia and others come into their own. A new structure of the world is being built. Naturally, he, of course, is not on the periphery. But he is no longer the center. This is the center. Now it is not clear, it turns out. Such two poles, or something, i dont want to call them poles, but one grows and consolidates. And the second is losing momentum, which is normal, because the era of the west the era of the liberal economy of the Global Economy is over. Now it is disintegrating. And brix is ​​the solution when countries that dont want the world to be in chaos after this collapse. They take the initiative into their own hands and build a new system. But you once called Andrei Olegovich briks with the world of the majority. This was before new members joined and applications were made. That is, now you are more than ever actual indeed, this is the world of the majority, but here is a very important point, will this majority have enough will from cohesion, to build not a copy of what we are leaving now, something qualitatively new, is there enough cohesion of will for this breakthrough . Well , Sergei Alexandrovich karaganov first spoke about the world of the majority, that is, i am not the author of this. Well, you know, cohesion, it comes out of necessity. Each of these serious states of china and russia and india brazil iran they see their own national interests, and they understand that together, if together they build the rules of the game, according to which it will be more convenient to live more reliably. Everything will be fine for them, if they do not build these rules of the game, then they will have to return to the system that did not accept them, did not recognize them and exploited them and look at the dynamics, the brix 15 years 10 years ago 5 years ago. It was like, well, between five countries. Where in general . They met and talked about being sovereign. And they were leaving. And see what now this is dynamic. It will continue to accelerate and increase, because common projects appear, a common vision appears. It is forged and here is what it does. The west helps a lot so that this other understanding can be forged faster. How is the denial of that stupidity . What the west is doing now is burying itself, in fact , back then, one international topic, we have been observing the development of events around niger for several weeks together with the whole world. Well, more specialized experts, they say, niger. But from him he sees French Colonial past, so we Pay Attention to those dictionaries that allow us to still say niger. Uh, so here are the different answers and opinions heard from the experts on this program to the question. Will there be a big battle for africa . Andrey levich to you. I want to clarify. Do you think there will be a big war . You know it, if it will be, but there is such a potential. It will not be for africa, it will be between african countries for what will be africa you know, after all, when the colonial powers divided africa like asia by the way, like the middle east, they didnt give a damn . Where who lived and now, in fact , this is the same border. Niger and nigeria , after all, part of nigeria is muslim, and part is catholic, and when none of the borders is clearly defined, and even more so in the desert and tribes roam between different countries. After all , as soon as the question arises. Where is the border . It wont happen without blood. After all, Everyone Wants to force behind them, the resources of the population , livestock, and so on and so forth, but nothing is defined in africa. Well, im exaggerating, but very much is uncertain, by the way, in asia, too. Look at pakistan, all the borders of pakistan are blurred on the one hand, the pashtun from the north, where is the border on the other baloch of the west with iran , where are the borders . Here it is official, but people live there from one side and the other. But how will he behave when he is divided . And the potential is huge for all this to explode. And it has already exploded. I wouldnt want to, of course, but if it comes there, hunger, if different players far from africa begin to set fire to its interests. Everything can be. Finally, i would like to know, for some reason this is the question. I would like to ask him. So, when the cult film brother came out in the cis, then you must have worked in the usa if im not mistaken, i dont know if you watched it or not, but for a whole generation here the picture became something. Well , like a hymn to a russian person, there is such a scene, it is very famous there. Even those who havent watched the movies. They usually saw it, where is the main character daniil bagrov he asks the americans, what is the strength . The power itself answers in truth. First of all, you agree with this that the power is in the truth. And i agree, but you understand danila bagrov , as far as i hear it, by the truth i understood justice. There is some concept. Thats what is right . And in this sense, the truth, but its justice. When it is right yes, and the russian people are very sensitive, they do not live according to the law, and in fairness they are ready to tolerate the violation of the law, if it is fair, if they feel that it is necessary. Its different in the west, but still. Thats when we realize what were doing, its right. We have this power tolerate. Strength to go forward, how much is needed until we win, and in this sense, strength yes , it is in truth truth is something that you can rely on, as the meaning of life is a brilliant answer. It suits us perfectly. Andrey thank you very much for participating in our program, thank you very much. We were in touch with the professor of the presidium advice on foreign and defense policy of russia Andrey Bezrukov kaliz you are in nature, you give up the light , you gloated consolation, you just drank the wind to pestle in your ear, how you flared up from the mind. Silence. Cool cars, go to society with demons. Listen, ripe. For malt, for respect, ill fit into curls in harmony with nature belarus 204. The president of belarus met with the chairman of the senate olya mazhilis of uzbekistan tonzila narbayeva arrived in minsk with a parliamentary delegation, as Alexander Lukashenko noted, the visit takes place in the year of the 30th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between belarus and uzbekistan between the countries , cooperation is actively advancing, there is mutual understanding, and the International Agenda is 30 years old, as we established our relations are diplomatic doors depending on the country. Well, i think that there is something to strive for in this not simple difficult time, when we are in International Relations at the broken international organizations. Uhhuh especially the regional ones are the eurasian economic community, thanks. For the sco. You have always supported us and we support you, we will always support you, because your course and the course of belarus on peacefulness on friendly relations with neighbors and other countries. This is also our course, the president believes that he will play his role in the development of relations between the two countries, the belarusian uzbek Womens Business Forum taking place these days in minsk, the program of the parliamentary delegation of uzbekistan, is saturated with visits to the Flagship Enterprises of the leading medical centers of the technopark in retail chains. Joint educational programs, according to which they study and receive double diplomas of the republic of belarus of the republic of uzbekistan citizens from our friendly country, of course, the basis is, first of all , the training of specialists for real. Sectors of the economy engineering and technical personnel, a very important aspect, of course, training and Teaching Staff tomorrow in minsk will be the key event of the first belarusian uzbek Womens Business Forum and an exhibition of product presentations under the brand made in belarus on the platform of entrepreneurs will be able to directly agree on Partnership Contributions from belarus to russia to the budget of the union state in 2024 will increase by more than a third of this was said by the chairman of the house of representatives of the National Assembly of belarus Vladimir Andreichenko at the opening of the expanded meeting of the council of the Parliamentary Assembly of the union of belarus of russia on september 4. In pskov, the belarusian leader spoke about the preparation of four new programs and three projects of the union state, and also proposed to develop a model law on border cooperation between belarus and russia. And we see that an important reserve in this is, of course, crossborder interregional cooperation, therefore, with regard to crossborder cooperation. We decided that in the near future we need the Parliamentary Assembly to develop a model law on the development of crossborder cooperation. I think this is generally such an important direction and an important decision that was made, and the pages of true history, the participants of the information and Educational Forum said. Belarus 1st c. Molodechno there is the start of the action. It is enough for all regions the main goal is consolidation on Patriotic Forces an open conversation on topical issues of the information agenda. The experts discussed modern processes, as well as how the strategy will be built, the main speakers of the future will be leaders, leading public associations of the country , the discussion will not be limited to a dialogue platform, the project will include exhibitions. Other formats will end with an action, on september 17, on the day of National Unity , indeed belarus 1 is also becoming a brand. E of our country are becoming significant events, without which it is already unthinkable preparation and celebration of the day of National Unity the concept of the event, belarus 1 is openness. That is, any questions, questions from the floor, questions from the speaker, and which , lets say, are included in the agenda, and everything that worries people, and in the regions that worries people in our country in grodno, the construction of a bypass ring road is underway. It will connect two young microdistricts in the south and north of elshankha and grandichi. The main work has been completed and several road interchanges have been erected. Bridge built. Builders are now across the neman. On the most important section of the track , it was worked out with Railway Tracks and the ozersk highway to organize a complex transport interchange , several Design Solutions were used ; uh, work has already been done on the installation of superstructures on the axes 01 1 2 2 3 also mounted a tunnel type overpass. Now we will have to simultaneously fill this , uh, overpass, drainage layer of sand, all these works will practically be carried out manually International Forum representatives of professional Music Education of the countries of eurasia started in belarus on the form. The tendencies of the development of Music Education in the eurasian cultural space were discussed within the framework of the projects of the Belarusian State Academy of music, a concert was held, the soloist of the moscow philharmonic Ekaterina Mechetina delighted the audience with rachmaninovs compositions , the second day of the forum will end with a joint concert of two youth ensembles of belarus russia each of them chose his own path correctly disposed of his talent , successfully, having realized it at home, it serves to play a lot, because it is enough that today they are the pride of the range hope of belarus these are new children who can immediately change from rest to goals immediately to study immediately to new knowledge. Lets share a story, and they are not afraid of their creative path with all the successes and failures and daily work on themselves. Nothing is shy. He likes he enjoys what he does look in the project new people on belarus 24 tv channel service, both at the green border and at checkpoints, thereby ensuring peace and creation for the citizens of the republic, belarus i always knew that i would be a man in uniform. My dad is a border guard. I have always been proud of him and have always been proud of this profession, so i also decided to go to serve in the border troops. I came to serve in the Cynological Center in 2003 and still heart and soul in this unit, because this is the best thing i could wish for myself and with the profession, it is the work of a dog handler. She began her service with the leader of the service dog of the maternity ward. This is the most touching, perhaps. The place is a geological center, because puppies are intercourse with puppies. It is, of course, so much sweetness and kindness in this work. Well , i probably dont have it anywhere else today. I am an officer of the Vocational Training department. My most important task is also the training of young uh, cynologists in the special service. This is a search for drugs or explosives. Already from a month and a half they begin to overcome obstacle course, that is, they are already engaged specifically, you understand that for a reason. Our Cynological Center can exist autonomously from the city, because everything necessary for instructors and service dogs is, in principle, in one place. We have a veterinary infirmary with very good dental equipment for dogs. Uh, we have everything here in place during the service. I had two dogs. The first dog is named volcano labrador, black in color, and we worked with him to search for drugs. We served with him for 9 years. Most importantly , the cynologist must love this profession, that is , not just love dogs, but have a certain goal, uh, which he will strive to understand, this is the interaction of a tandem and go forward. Dont let go. This is sometimes very, very difficult. We never ceased to be proud of our palace for the palace of the dwelling, even when it was not the best, the best form is not the best condition. It still remained a monument of history, a monument of culture one of the most significant of belarus, every piece, crumbling plaster. Its just a scar on his body. These are traces of history that he acquired such a form. For us. This is a great joy. And this, of course, is a great pride. But thats just the new state of it. This is his rebirth. The working day starts at 9 am. We dont have such a big museum. And therefore, it is natural that we envy the seed, lets say, by the branches of our activity. I mean economic, of course, and scientific stock work, so first its a passage through the territory through the halls. Here are his sons, grandson, who owned the palace afterwards. In order to be the director of a museum, you really need to have some specific knowledge that is related to the profile of this museum; we have a palace park ensemble, therefore the culture of the 19th century. In principle, we are in a good position in this regard, because most of the museum staff who are engaged in just the same communication with visitors. They have a specialized education, i myself studied specifically in the specialty of museum business, namely , the tasks are coordination, just the activity of employees is control monitoring the quality of the tour. Good morning. Today, someone has already come on an excursion, while you see it as it is, and then it will be necessary to discuss a little bit, we will revise the route of the excursion and a little bit of the control text. It will need to be modified, since in our museum, even in the process of forming the exposition, they often change and are formed, then the text of the excursion can also change significantly, and over a fairly short time. A and this also needs to be controlled how exactly to present correctly, huh . Most changes at least once every two weeks, i try to go on excursions for one or two employees, sometimes it may seem that if you work in such a wonderful place, then over time you will begin to lose interest in all this, it will cease to admire. In fact. This is not entirely true, of course, all this is already perceived somewhat, otherwise through a different prism, but this does not mean that it becomes indifferent. It just becomes a part of you. Especially. If you really care about your work. Do you think about how to do better, what else can be brought in order to make it even more impressive. The place in which we are located is the residential palace park ensemble, it once belonged to the bulgakov family, and the bulgaks are a rather ancient family from the 15th century on the land of belarus, they are known, and modest people, of course, do not build such palaces. If we talk about something the most unique, and what distinguishes our palace from others, then this, of course, is the decoration of the walls of the ceilings, first of all, of course, polychrome painting, that is , multicolored, but no less impressive is gilded. Many elements, lipnins. Many ceilings are almost completely gilded, as, for example, here in the ballroom, that is, literally in chunks. Is this gold. You can say it hangs very, very much in the interiors. The palace in dwellings never existed on its own. It is surrounded by a large park, this park, of course strong , has changed over time, but now you can still notice the outlines of those same alleys along which buns and guests walked. The First World War began, all the most valuable things from the palace were evacuated by him away from the front line. Naturally, the palace changed its purpose a little. Various organizations, lets say, are located here. Here was the orphanage of the school for working youth from the thirtieth year. Here was the agronomic school. Educational institution. A good base was laid here for this, because the bagels were engaged mainly in agriculture during the hijacking of the war. Here was the german hospital palace, of course, it was damaged by order of the nazis, the greenhouse was dismantled, well, fortunately these are not the biggest losses that could have been on the palace were not bombed in major battles. There were no partisan raids here, so the courtyard was preserved quite well during the war after the war of the tenth year. Here again there was agricultural machinery. He was here until 2006, and 2006. The museum of the medical school of arts was already completely occupied here, and the museum of the Childrens School of arts existed back in the seventies. The museum really works here, a unique thing, because all of our natural stories are drenched and children immediately when they come to school. They first, they learn the history of the palace itself. They begin to consider our ceilings, and the structures fully examine all the buildings and understand that this is art, and it turns out that their upbringing comes immediately from art. Then they already come to our school, choose music, choreographic department, art department. Knowing the people of obovyazsky will be remembered about people. We got up. We went to work together, then we went to bed together, this is 24 7 a day. That is, when we are together every lever is creative. I think yes. Just in the moment of school a person loses interest, teak profession and history. Which roles are striking in terms of dreams . I have already played a lot and, probably, almost everything that exists, even ostap bender played in the musical theater , the worst thing that for me was and remains this live broadcast. I dont know why, but live broadcasts i started live broadcasts. Im still afraid of everyone. Look at the project belarusians on our tv channel expedition for the cups of our ukraine new discoveries. How many people we have been abadshili with all sorts of people, and there are no kolka songs of any manny kolya. Yes, the name of the owl follows, the fences are small. It is known that they settled at a new hut early at midnight , the album climbs loosely, and the tulle and naming uladins are a tip or they cut down a tree. We looked. On the side of the ships fall, as the White Mountains did not cut off the derevola with a hollow, it was worlded by everyone, i m body and we will give the second tradition a new one. Here, we all scored together for the hityaru in a new way. What was the cabbage go to the playlist, which was cabbage , sit down at once with the project for the first round on the belarus tv channel for 20 years. The first restoration in the palace was carried out back in 7273 at that time, of course, it may not have been very successful, that is, our restorers did not quite have the experience. It was one of the first restorations in general on the territory of belarus, but nevertheless it helped to preserve the fact that impressive coffered ceilings, stucco molding, and the upper part of the walls were still preserved in the palaces at that time. By the beginning of the two thousandth works, of course, the palace significantly hung, that is, significant restoration work was already required. And then the design work began. Naturally, they also included historical and archiographic natural studies. That is, part of the researchers worked in the archives looking for photographs of mention. Documents of that time some of the researchers worked on the spot took samples in order to carry out physical and chemical analyzes. Also largescale and rather lengthy work, the restoration of the first stage included the first queue. Restoration of interior facades. Unfortunately, very weak ones were preserved there, so they were planned. Just for todays needs. You need a childrens art school. The first launch complex, the second phase of this outbuilding. It also included the placement of the premises of the Childrens School of arts in a large concert hall and the inclusion of temporary exhibitions of our museum, as for speech through here, of course, there was a very big responsibility, because a huge amount of exactly the original elements. The stucco moldings and all this were to be restored. It is important to say that the attention of the state has always been directed precisely to the completion of these works as soon as possible, that is, in 2018 there was a big progress