Evening, Shooting Incident occurred here with multiple casualties. In the city lewiston. Police are currently searching for a robert our car. Four for 1983. Hes considered armed and dangerous. Hes A Person Of Interest however and that is what we will label at moving forward. Until that changes. If people see him they should not approach or make contact with him in any way. Lets talk now with cnn security correspondent josh campbell. I will lean in early to your fbi shops as well because your experience is so vital right now is an ongoing manhunt. We do not know where this suspect is. Weve been told where he is. This is a very fluid situation and everybody is trying to assess people injured. Tell me about this identification of A Person Of Interest. How significant is this now . Its interesting, because for a period of time that went by, authorities were not releasing the name of the suspect or identifiers. Cctv footage where he allegedly opened fire inside of the Bowling Alley. You can see him there with a rifle. What is called a magazine. It contraption in the weapon that holds any ammunition. A large capacity magazine. Meaning this individual potentially had a lot of ammunition. Where suspects will bring additional rounds of ammunition. We know with that number of victims. At least 22 people who were killed. Numerous others were injured. This is somebody who appeared to have been intent on causing mass loss of life. At this hour we certainly do not know the motive. Why allegedly he targeted these two particular areas. But as mentioned this man is now underway. Cnn is learning there multiple now involved. Main please, federal government involved as well. Ill call bureau of Tobacco Firearms and explosives, the atf bringing resources. To try to identify a suspect based on the open itself. We now have identification. Finally i will point out again at this hour we do not know the motive but sources are telling our colleague john milley that this suspect who was a firearms instructor. In the u. S. Military and army reserve had at some point reported Mental Health issues. Allegedly indicating ewers hearing voices. He was committed to some type of institution for assessment. So a lot of questions at this hour about what happened. After that period of assessment where there are people in his orbit who might have seen additional lingering issues. Allegedly had made threats against a National Guard facility. So still a lot of questions about the motive but that brings us to where we are at this point in time. A massive manhunt authorities spanning out across the new england area looking for the suspect. Of course weve seen laura you and i have covered so many of these incidents and they typically will and in three possible ways. The suspect decides to take his own life, the suspect is engaged Milan Forsman and is taken into custody or killed. In the suspect is eventually this man continues. So were still waiting to hear and see what happens here. Obviously this is an area that has been in a state of lockdown. A state of fear. Authorities have asked residents to shelter in place. In a state of complete and total shock. Nobody thinks that this is going to happen where they are. You are hearing about, we had one person earlier on who was an eyewitness to being outside the Bowling Alley. Said that she shocked children coming out of the Bowling Alley. Some sort of a family night was happening. A daughter, a girl scout trying to make sense of what she is seeing. Im interested in particular on the committee made about the atfs involvement. We are looking at those still frames there from points in time, you identified clothing. Those cargo pants as one way that people will store additional ammunition. People have been focusing on the gun its self being used. When the atf is involved, how are they going to be trying to identify and locate and track who that person is. Based on seeing the weapon . The atf specifically has incredible capabilities and resources in order to gather intelligence from the weapon. Whenever you fire a rifle like this or any gun. The boat comes at the end, but the shell casing is ejected. Sadly we have seen because of the level of gun violence in this country, the atf has gotten really good at being able to look at those Shell Casings to try to identify the individual mark. Something like a fingerprint, that a firing pin lives on the ammunition to try to track back. Was this a weapon authorities were aware of . That oftentimes helps lead to the identity of the suspect. That has all occurred. Trying to gather information about the suspect. We know they have identified a vehicle. That would help them try to get the identification. So they felt comfortable providing the name of this suspect. And now this point is really trying about locating where he might be. Theres a physical search effort happening. We have assets on the ground. We know helicopters have been brought in. To try to scour the area. Maybe getting it into difficult. Laura weve seen time and again authorities will literally go to door to door. Along a road of travel looking for surveillance footage. At residences, businesses trying to identify where this suspect was traveling to. We know long freeways, there are also License Plate readers trying to get a sense of where this individual might be. The last thing ill point out now. Now that theyve indeed provided the identification of the, it tells us they are then trying to identify relatives, to identify friends. We know because of, as we were reporting earlier. Mental Health Issues the suspect allegedly had in the past. Ill pause real quickly to say because its so important. We know vast majority of people in these countries who have Mental Health issues do not go on to commit violence. So we do not want to stigmatize. That put this is important because authorities will want to talk to this individual to determine what is the State Of Mind. Ive gone through individual episodes. Moving into a State Of Mind. They want a peaceful resolution. With him now accused, high powered assault rifle. Authorities would certainly be on edge but they are hoping to get this peaceful resolution. The first have to find him. But they will gather as much as they can and his State Of Mind as they try to apprehend him. Every morsel of information that could give inside to the Law Enforcement could be invaluable. Josh, please stick around and keep giving us the information we are really eager to have. Now former Baltimore Police commissioner Michael Harrison who is here with us tonight. One of the things that was mentioned, the different areas you are going to look for and trying to get into this persons past. Social media might be a place. Any notion of a manifesto or anything like that. Let me ask you about how wide a net would be cast to find this particular person of interest. Thank you for having me when we first offer my condolences to all of the victims of these horrific incident. I think that the net is pretty wet. It could be nationally or internationally. Considering how close to canada this location is. Its gonna be local, state federal resources all working together in coordinating, communicating and collaborating. To figure number one, kind of know who this person is. But where has he been . What has he done. I am very concerned. Ive heard the previous commentator the last colors. Talking about his ability to create harm. A training would leave him to anticipate a Police Approach. The Tactics Police would used to try to track it out behind him. Which would lend him to probably have a measure of a defensive maneuver. Is invasive maneuvers. Further exacerbates the problem. So i think everything some table. Especially a digital profile. Looking at what you might have communicated with. How far back does that communication go . Who wouldve inspired him to do this. In his planning of the. Because it took some planning. So true. These are not places that are kitty corner to one another. It requires attention to travel from point a to point b to point c. Perhaps point d. A very important point. That notion of being proactive in trying to commit additional crimes. This is A Person Of Interest. The commissioner is very clear. They are not calling the person a suspect at this time. Weve seen picture, person of interests. Pictures of the car as well. When you have that combination. Being provided by Law Enforcement, what can you glean right now . I have to join the previous commentators. Spending a confrontation with Law Enforcement. Self inflicted would. That could possibly end his own life. But in looking at the photo, i heard john miller talk about the likelihood he had more ammunition. He had enough ammunition to commit a high number of fatalities and injury. That might lead to even more fatalities. I think he has enough ammunition to do that again. And we should anticipate that. The Police Approach is very important. It should be very systematic. And it will be carefully planning coordinated by local, state and federal agencies. Went far beyond this one state of maine. But this could last for days on end and we hope it doesnt but we should be prepared for this to last days on end. Because we know that this person likely has a skill set to survive and sustain himself through what could last beyond one news cycle or police tour of duty. This is something we will be watching closely. Ill mention one additional point raised by the commissioner of public safety. At that Press Conference we heard a few moments ago. That he would not rule or did not say whether they believed this was one person of interest or others were involved. Seems that theyre having a single focus on this person of interest. We might give comfort to people. But the Investigation Continues in the manhunt is underway. Standby everyone. Because its a very urgent manhunt underway. Right now, for all of the reasons we describe tonight. After a tragic night in lewiston maine. Cnn special live coverage. More on breaking this type of man. So the officials telling us that at least 22 people have been killed in two separate Mass Shootings. One at a restaurant. In other had a Bowling Alley. There is a massive manhunt underway right now. 4 of interest whos named robert card. Andrew mccabe is back with me now. Andy, when you look at what has happened right now. And this is in me. So one of the first questions that people will ask is whether a person was known to authorities. We learned from john miller that this person was a military reservist. But the gun laws, and the type of weapon being used here. Thats the second question. What are the gun laws in maine. Whats the weapon you are seeing in any of these still photos able to be lawfully used in that state . Obviously not for criminal purpose. That is right. Its entirely likely the weapon you see in this photo can be lawfully owned in the state of maine. A weapon is likely an ar15 or similar variant. High powered assault style weapon. Maine does not have a traditional Background Check Requirement beyond the federal requirements that are imposed upon federally licensed firearms. Maine also does not have a what we refer to as a red flag law. Where some states call it an extreme risk law. The laws enable Family Members or Law Enforcement to take firearms away from people who seem to be an extreme risk of hurting themselves or others. For instance, if this person of interest was actually recently in a psychiatric facility undergoing evaluation. Thats the sort of situation that could give rise to somebody working under a red flag law to remove the persons guns for some period of time. May does not have those lost so that could not happen here. We also know that main does not have a concealed carry permit requirement. Which basically means if youve lawfully purchased a fire. Hannah, long gun. Its harder to conceal a long gun but if you have a handgun you can carry handgun without a special permit to do so. So it is a pretty easy state it seems to purchase and use firearms. We know maine also has a long history of shooting sports. And junta, and out door culture in maine. So conservator prevalent. I think some of the witnesses. If you have the witnesses weve identified on the air this evening. Some mention that as soon as they heard the shelter in place rule. They grabbed and guns and rifles and look at those weapons. So it is a part of the culture of me. Juliet, i know you wanted to weigh in. Adding on these laws andrew has aligned. Perhaps one of the most striking. Are the red flag laws. Maternal available in maine particularly given the reporting that this person has had some sort of Mental Health evaluation. Perhaps earlier this year or over a multi weeks period. Whats your thought on all of this . You we were hearing at first, go ahead, repeat that again . Maine has some of the most permissive laws when it comes to guns ownership. Acquisition, background checks, red flag laws. It is essentially sort of akin to texas. Part of that is exactly as andy was saying, the culture of guns which is often related to hunting. So you are unlikely to find that he unlawfully had these weapons. These are lawfully purchased weapons. Allowed to be purchased in may. Who remember also his background. We know some of his back. That he is a firearms instructor. He will be familiar with these guns. Hes going to be familiar with how the killer without getting shot himself. And its sort of discussed in the narratives we often think well that is often told that in more Armed Culture will be safer i think maine is unfortunately sort of an example now where even people who had guns, youre just not able to anticipate or to protect yourself when you are up against the kind of weaponry that just kills so quickly. That is why so many people in Law Enforcement are against these kinds of rifles. Because it is not guns generally, although some people would like. Its a gun that two things cannot happen. One, you cannot protect the public. They are simply you, are there, you are at the end of if your shot you are likely to be killed. And that is even if you are armed. It is very hard to react because the gun works so quickly. The other is, and we saw this today. That they capacity for Law Enforcement to stop it is almost minimal. Because all the color needs is 234 minutes and hes back in his car. Hes already killed how many people and now on to thet. Which long forsman is now all rushing into the first place. So there will be a discussion about gun laws in maine. But his access to the gun laws. There ought to be a discussion on political, just sort of here is a horrible horrible day. What can we do. The number of people were dead. Whatever the number is. Its one too many. The numbers we are hearing are close to 20 right now. We should be having this discussion. Most, nations do not have killings like this. It strikes me on two fronts. One of the Law Enforcement who are trying to hone in and identify. Finding this persons location. And bring him into custody. What they are up against. What you might have. Second part is the trauma. Ill go there next. I want to turn to the hospitals. Lets listen live mayors speaking. Something like this does not just get solved overnight. But weve had a really strong community. Weve overcome a lot. People come. The relief. Its really relief if you think about it. This is a happier place right now. In the entire area, this is a Reunification Center. Witnesses just saw traumatic events. Theyre coming together with family and loved ones who are worried to death about. Them they are coming together. Off the side of the happiness, youre seeing turmoil. And the trauma they are going to. Lets keep, in the uk understand. Cant describe it quite frankly. You can feel empathy for them. Centralized location. Clearing the scenes. Once everything was settled. It needs to happen. Investigation is an investigation. Another mass Shooting Incidents, the reunification point. A loved one comes to the tragic realization that the relative didnt make. It has enables interactions taking place here today . Yes. Ill leave it at that. Whats the sort of process of the hospitals theyre working to connect one more people . Ive not talked to the hospital directors. They are busy. We all need to respect the. Theyre working with known victims right now. Whether its casualties or fatalities, and they will work through that process. Your appropriate guidance Mental Health. Trained professionals here, cultures. Trained in crisis response. How long can we expect this honor to be open . Intelligence. Dont anything . Thank you very much. Just hearing from the mayor of melbourne main. Closure of public safety. Auburn mills. Reunification center for families looking to find their loved ones. Weve learned tonight from the mayor of albany, the location is open. Families whove learned the fate of their loved ones. Including knit died in killed in this incident. Churches and other entities. Trained to help those families. When this is involved. So long for some contributor. Steve moore is with us now. Weve learned sadly for some people, hoping to reunify. Have now learned the fate of their loved ones. This horrible circumstance, kobe will what disappeared Fixation Process would be like an essential like this . It can be extremely traumatizing. For everyone involved. Because a bunch of people are getting tremendous news. And they are seeing and having their tearful reunions and thanking god a lot. Getting the worst possible news that they could ever imagine. The cases ive been involved in has almost been traumatized to be at the unification center. It is best to try and separate. And i hope theyve done this. Separate it from a Reunification Center and identify those people who are showing up, and still looking for people that maybe authorities know are not going to be found. Its unbelievable to think about the waiting, the concern, the wondering. We need to have what youve said that moment of confusion. And despair. The processes speaking of, that was the mayor of melbourne. The Mass Shootings happened enlisted. It had to run Middle School is one of those centers. The mayor spoke about shelter in place conditions. Even for his community, what does that tell you . It tells me that theyve set the perimeter out. The Fugitive Perimeter or the search perimeter out. Which to me means they dont really have a clue. A strong clue as to where he was where he is now. Theyre trying to determine whether he had any assistance. A second vehicle, if theyre looking to see if any vehicles were stolen in the area you have to plan on worstcase that this person, got out in a vehicle. And could be in those areas. But you also have to be pragmatic and say well what are the odds. That he did have another vehicle and then youve got the problem of lewiston and lisbon in these areas being just surrounded by forest and this is a nightmare because if this person is as weve been hearing, a trained military operative, somebody who taught firearms then they are going to make clever decisions about what would be in the best interest. It is worse has decided, will they turn them selves in, will they take their own loss or are they going to go into the woods, hunker down and wait until the police got to them and i think right now you are at a dangerous position. And i would not send people into those woods tonight. I would set up a large perimeter. Block off roads and try it in the daylight. Which means that there is times and perhaps opportunity for a community to be vulnerable. This is the Community A List in that is not too far away from the most populous part of me. Portland. Anyone how far of the perimeter is really going to go, in the search for the suspect, this person of interest as theyve been clear to identify tonight thank you so much. We will continue to lean on your insight i would like to go next to the hospitals. Lets talk about the Emergency Trauma happening inside of there. This is A Person Of Interest dividend fired on your screen. Stay with us. Our Special Coverage continues tonight out of lewistown me. Officials are telling cnn that at least 22 people have been killed at a restaurant. Enabling our. Percent interest is on the loose. Identified by the percentage greener. Joining us active shooting expert. Thanks for being here. You can see the still image is only one of the person i believe, was A Person Of Interest. Not yet calling him a suspect. Im watching the clothing looking at the holding of the. Gotta tell me about what you are gleaning from these footage we are seeing. Thank you for having me. Im sorry its under these circumstances. I look at this from two different vantage points, one is the Prevention Standpoint of what could have been done to prevent this. And the second is from the response standpoint. And i believe a lot of your audience which ive spoken to before on several times on several occasions understands that, these incidents when the police are coming and are on their way, theyre responding to the incident already in progress. And just like what your other guest has said, theres very little that you can do once the shooting starts. And you have to take the path that will get you to the place you want to go. What does that mean . With the technology available, now there are Warning Signs for gun detection. So i am looking at the types of cameras in the three different locations. And while they look a little distorted if you will from the maps point of view, they might be relevant to where he targeted. And i would also look at the amount of training that he has. For somebody to have that type of a drone into their body. Say a viewer that does mean in your car crash. You can barely, move you grab your steering wheel. This person had the wherewithal in mind to get back in their vehicle. And then drop to another location. And another location. And for a fourth time of eight. And now they are on the run. So whether that is a Mental Health issue. Or beyond, a lot of experience. We dont know the background. In person interest. Id love to see how this is going to unfold. And hope and pray for the best for the police because they have a Monumental Task ahead of them. Chris i want to go back. There was a picture we were showing of him. I letting his body as he was pulling the weapon. But he was poised to shoot. Hes looking straight ahead. His hands are in position. One is underneath the barrel of the weapon. The other is on the trigger. Looking over what appears to be a potential targets. It tells me he knows how to handle the fire. Director mccabe said that the type of weapon we believe is an ar15. And that is some kind of object. I dont think its a scope i think its a red dot off the. It doesnt mean . People that dont know what that means. Sure. So we are used to a scope magnifying what we are looking at. A lot of people would consider that one hunting rifles we have a scope. A red dot or some kind of object is called a faster pick up for your eye. You pick the weapon up and you see the dot. The place where the muzzle is going to be aimed. Four targets and competitions shooting. So that kind of uptick will maybe not magnify the picture. In other words of you wont be able to see with magnification. Tiktok could magnify the background. To help you find another target. Its called target discrimination. So, its a terrible situation talking about discrimination. When there are so many people shot. I would just go back to his handling of the weapon shows some kind of occupational proficiency. Most people, especially people without training standstill. Their posture is not correct, they dont know how to hold the biden. When fires dating back. The pictures ive seen show him leaning into it, moving as hes walking on a tire. And being very deliberate in his steps and actions to include his involvement. Which is functional for the. Im looking a horse in the photo weve seen, hes at a Bowling Alley. Weve heard from eyewitnesses who they say saw children running out of this Bowling Alley. Could have potentially had many children inside. This is not going to a gun range. It is not going to a place perhaps where he believes he could encounter people who could respond. We make about . Im ive studied the since since 2007. I was in an active shooting in 2010. Business phenomenal vector shooters. Tragically or the seal dont wake up one day and become an active shooter. I heard the background, i will elaborate on his mental state. But ill tell you that the fbi tells us that left 25 of active shooters have a Mental Health diagnosis. Cure theirs diagnosis. Because most dont get out. But the people who call for gun control everything can agree and understand where theyre coming from. The people call for Mental Health work, i can agree and understand where theyre coming from. But i think that there has to be a third tier of reals. Just over 400 million firearms in the united states. Some 550 have been involved in active shooters. And then his 552 men. And i would not disagree until. With the condition in problem we have right now. We continue to come back to the same debate. Whether it is the, triangles surrounds the laws. The Mental Health, the behavior. This person had a vision of what they want to do. Whether was a copycat, whether this is why we dont say their names traditionally because we are trying to go for them. And we do not want to put them on a plateau where somebody wants to outdo them. Are they want to have to somebody else. Im sure when this manifesto comes up we are going to know that this is been planned, orchestrated in their minds. It made sense. So i am up the opinion that all active shooters have a Mental Health diagnosis. Same for some good way poignantly where there is children and fires. So he is at his own heart can act into the location or new location. And if reporting is accurate. A location near the. Its a workplace spillover. I want to be very careful i dont want to mistake semantics for a victim that they dont care what they call it. Their loved one is dead. But i think we have to be very careful and i would applaud the last guest speaking about the reunification programs. Those are the hardest things. They are the hardest things to look at and plan and from what all the guests have said on scene. Its going very, i applaud that. I think everybodys done an outstanding job. Reporting has been spot on. I want to say i wish it wasnt. But i wish it was pool reporting, i wish we didnt know the questions. Asked what they were talking about because my whole mission in look now. Overturning come back. I started the active shooting reduction. What im saying we can prevent them. We know what happens after. These things happen from zero to eight minutes and then they are over. The police cannot get there until eight minutes. So i protect all trees the way to do that. Theres a way to prevent them. We just have to get creative and do it. Chris, thank you so. Much im going to keep thinking about the optics youre talking about. The person of interest. Simply walking as if he is continuing a long and what he is doing with that gun. Really important to hear your perspective, thank you so much. And everybody out there. They are more than 15 people, one of 50 people hurt. Tonight hospitals are taking them. We will go there next. Stay with us. Our Special Coverage continues tonight out of maine, where 22 people are reported dead after two Mass Shootings. More than 50 others are hurt. I want to bring in doctor james phillips, Associate Professor and chief of disaster and medicine at George Washington university hospital. Doctor, it is an unbelievable scene that we are learning and hearing about. The number of people injured, the weapon that was likely used, A Person Of Interest, take me behind the scenes of what happened at a hospital when you have this number of people, potentially 50, who have been injured. Thanks for having me on, lauren. I am echoing your last guest, and i am sorry that it has to be under these circumstances. I appreciate you asking these important questions about how we approach this from a Hospital Standpoint and a Health Care System standpoint. You know, i dont want to speculate on the number of victims that the hospitals are caring for because we dont know, in the fog of war, as it is, the customers will change. But what we can be certain about is that there are a number of patients that are overwhelming the medical system, as it exists. This area of maine has a Major Medical center there that is the American College insurgents trauma center, but no matter how good or busy they are, receiving that number of victims, even half that number of victims with high caliber weapon wounds, is a true disaster, where the amount of patient needs far exceeds what your resources are available. They will be reaching out to help not only transfer patients to other Trauma Centers centers, but sent patients. They will be calling in their staff from home and most people are going to selfrespond to the hospital, as it is. What we see a disaster like this, or a mass casualty incident, no matter the cause, we think of it in terms of three major things. We think about space, staff, and supplies, and those medical centers caring for these victims right now are overwhelmed and having the worst day that they have ever had, and they need components of each of those things. They need Trauma Surgeons, they need Emergency Physicians, and they need nurses. They need the supplies that are there to help alleviate the bleeding, and they need Operating Rooms where they can provide Damage Control Surgery for those that have survived to try and get to the next Shooting Victim and potentially get back to the show are the next day to complete that surgery. And they need support more than anything, these physicians and nurses are experiencing the single worst day of their lives. And its something we all think about, i just finished my shift in the Emergency Department and our go, and there is not a single day what we are in the Emergency Department where we dont know that that is a possibility, that a major shooting can take place for us. It is the primary disaster we prepare for in the united states. It is unbelievable to think about, what is at stake here . As you say, the overwhelming nature of what might be happening, you have described the space, the staffing, the supplies, obviously with a high caliber weapon that may have been used, there would be significant blood loss, i would assume you would need blood as well in terms of people being able to use and supply. How do you prioritize that . Will that be a consideration when you are talking about the victims that are coming in . What is the process of identifying the order in which you treat and address, because i can only imagine what the winds would be like. That is a fantastic question, and it deals with the concept of triage, which is french for to sort. The first bit of sorting will take place on the scenes of what i believe are to local areas where the shootings took place, and the first concept is that ems will set up and ability to triage patients based on their severity of injuries at the scene. What we know from reality is, those systems are minimally effective. If you look at what happened in las vegas, people dont wait for an ambulance to go to the hospital, they get in a vehicle, they call uber and lyft. That happened in vegas. They get in the back of police cars and pickup trucks and day self transport themselves to these hospitals. It may or may not be capable of taking care of them. When they arrive at the hospital, either by ambulance or by private vehicle, that is when we repeat that triage with usually an advanced medical provider who is out there, and we try to sort them into categories based on the severity of their injuries, based on our career experience. We try to put them in the categories of green, yellow, and red, and that is self obvious. The red patients are the patients who are expected to deteriorate and have a bad outcome if they do not get to the operating room, get those blood transfusions, get that stabilization necessary right now. Patients in the yellow category are patients that can probably wait a few hours, maybe not quite critical, but at risk of deteriorating, and we want to keep a constant eye on them to make sure that they dont become a red patients while they are waiting for care. Those in the green category are typically what we would recall walking wounded, patients that are not having massive blood loss, vital signs are reasonable, injuries dont require immediate care, and we try to sort them as well, be mindful that anybody can switch between those categories at anytime. And now it is the job of the Emergency Physicians and the Trauma Surgeons to determine who needs to go to the operating room, right now, and for what procedure. And the worst thing possible is there will be victims that show up that may not be salvageable, they may have ones that are not compatible with life. The hardest decision that any surgeon or physician will have to make is to have that patient there alive, but know that they are not salvageable and we need to save those resources, those Operating Rooms, for patients that have a better chance at living. That has got to be one of the most difficult decision that any physician has to make, and i hope they are not having to make those decisions tonight. It is just my heart is in my stomach as i am hearing you describe that triage, the sorting process, the judgment calls that need to be made, and i keep going back to what you said earlier, that the number one Disaster Preparedness that you are trying to do is in preparation for a mass shooting in this country. That is just unbelievable to think about, dr. It is, you know . I was in college when i was watching columbine happened on tv. I am from oklahoma city, where my dad was one of the firsfirefg after the bombing, and i was in boston doing my training during the marathon bombing. We think of all the different hazards that can lead to mass casualty incidents. Earthquakes, tornadoes, let alone the manmade incidents. Without question, the thing that weighs on our minds the most right now, the thing thats gonna happen in any community, that is a hazard for every place in america right now, is a mass shooting. Doctor james phillips, thank you so much for what you do. I am so appreciative of how you have broken it down, and we are thinking about what everyone has to go through now at those hospitals, the space, the staffing, the supplies, the victims. Thank you so much. Thank you. Next, i speak with a man who was near the scene, and we will talk with the mayor who is leading that family Reunification Center out of auburn. Standby. We have more on our Breaking News out of maine and the two Mass Shootings there. Just moments ago, i talked with a man who lives near the scene. Listen. A lot of anger that it was happening in the community, because people from maine are much better than this, and you have had these interviews with people all over the country before, in a mass shooting you just cant believe it is going to happen in your hometown, yet here we are. I have helicopters flying over my house with searchlights and its unreal. What are you hearing and seeing tonight. You said you have the helicopters, did you hear you are only one block away from the Bowling Alley. Did you hear gunshots, tonight . Anything . When i got home, we locked down and i loaded my rifle and our handgun, so i was busy doing that. I walked out on the deck for a short time, thought i heard something in the distance, but mostly what i have been hearing, honestly, is sirens. Like i said, the helicopters flying above. We have a view of main street, so i just saw a police car after police car after Police Car Flying By and then ambulance is going to the hospital. Do you have a sense of how many ambulances you saw leaving that Bowling Alley . Ill i only saw them i didnt see them leave the Bowling Alley, but they were coming from that direction. As far as police cars, there had to be a dozen or more. It was quite a a bunch of Law Enforcement officers heading that way. Next, i speak with the mayor in the nearby town, the town that is leading the center where families are trying to reunite and possibly learning about the fate of their loved ones. Stand by