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Thats it for us. The news continues. The source with Kaitlan Collins starts now straight from the Source Tonight, Donald Trump now vowing mass deportations for immigrants who are legally here, starting with the targets of his lies about eating heads how was he as he now says, that there might be a second debate that is Vice President harris is campaigning in deep Trump Country, trying to court room so battleground voters were going to dive into her new strategy in an election that looks like a nailbiter theres a stunning new Report Tonight the world, going to bring you about the failures the Secret Service that day, the Donald Trump was nearly assassinated im Kaitlan Collins, and this is the source any moment now we are expecting to see Donald Trump Take That stage that you were looking at right now in Las Vegas after he spent much of The Day ran tune while in battleground, nevada spewing some of his darkest rhetoric that weve heard from him. This Campaign Cycle for starters, hes vowing mass deportations for people who are in this country legally as he continues to target and demonize haitian immigrants in springfield, ohio despite threats directed towards springfield City Hall or at schools, trump refused to back down from his baseless Lies Today there are Bomb Threats at schools and kids being evacuated why do you still spread this store . The real threat this one . Happening and i bought those are real problems just swatting that question about Bomb Threats on schools right away as he continued to fan the flames with this claim we will do large deportations from springfield, ohio, large deportations. Were going to get these people out. What bringing them back to venezuela, its like an invasion from within the largest deportation in the history of our country. And were going to start with Springfield And Aurora those immigrants in springfield that hes talking about sending back to venezuela are from haiti and they are here in the United States legally meanwhile, two republican officials and Rora Have said his claims about whats happening in that city are overstated and that same Press Conference Today, though, trump declined to denounce the racist the antisemite that he has been traveling across the country with. Thats Laura Loomer, the 911 Conspiracy Theorist who was with Donald Trump. This 911 norris been a supporter just like a lot of people who supports. I dont control laura. Laura has to say what she wants you youre allies well, i dont know. I may look. I cant tell laura what to do. Laura loomer was traveling with you on your Plane Lot of people dont lined with you. She made racing mr. Lot remarks about your opponent. She also espoused Conspiracy Theories about 9 11. Do you disavow those remarks . Have to see what the remarks . For short while after that trump posted on truth social saying that loomer doesnt work for his campaign, which it was not reported that she did. And also said he disagrees with her statements, though he declined to say which ones on the other side of the Campaign Trail tonight, Vice President harris is back in pennsylvania visiting two counties the trump won overwhelmingly in 2016 and 2020 hammering her opponent while on the ground, well talk more about what she said. Well, there and a moment, but my lead Source Tonight is cnn political analyst and senior political correspondent for the New York Times maggie haberman, and Maggie Hearing Trump talk about what he amplified to 70 Million people on Tuesday Night. This this false claim about haitian immigrants in springfield. Now hes hes mixing that with his pledge to carry out mass deportations. In a second term. But i mean, these are people who have temporary protected status. They are here legally, United States. They do it has been we have reported my colleagues jonathan Swan And Charlie savage and i have reported that as part of his vow to go through with mass deportations and hes been talking about this now for some time, they would try to end Tps Status for a lot of people. This is actually in keeping with it, although as you know, he seemed not certain what country they were from and its not venezuela, its haiti. Its not surprising you are correct that it is mixing in a bunch of different threads and all it is trying to do is suggest people should be afraid of these immigrants. And it is something we have seen him do over a long period of time and people spend time trying to factcheck him. And by the time thats done the lie, he is saying or the misleading statements he is saying is already well down the street, right . To this point, i was talking to Pete Buttigieg last night. He was appearing as a campaign surrogate, not as transportation secretary. He thinks this is all just a big distraction technique. This was his argument this is a strategy. And theres even more to it than demonizing immigrants. Although thats obviously part of what hes doing. This is a strategy to get us talking about the latest crazy thing that he did, Whatever Urban Legend he amplifies right now, its about people eating cats are, geese or whatever because he cannot afford for us to be talking about his record theres always a lot of talk about Is Trump Playing Chess or checkers, are we all just kind of falling for it . Youve often reported its actually not some grand strategy behind the scenes. What is your sense of what this . Its actually is so i think one of the most important quotes that was ever said about Donald Trump as president was someone who told buzzfeed that everybody thinks this is 3d chess, but most of the time hes eating the pieces and i think that is worth bearing in mind. A lot. I do think that he is intentionally trying to get people to talk about this. Thats definitely true, but its not because theres been some large discussion necessarily about it being ripe politics, although his Vice President ial Running Mate has been talking about this too, its not like this is being offered to him by some person far afield and his campaign and hes just grabbing on it. He likes talking about these things. He likes creating controversy. He likes being the center of attention. I think the secretary is incorrect that this is some strategy to distract from his record, but i do think that it is a strategy to just try to drive new cycles. Did they think its helpful at all inside the Trump Campaign that, that its putting a focus back on immigration and were talking about the impact that the 20,000 legal migrants have had on a city like springfield . Yeah, 100 . They think this is actually good politics for them. They think this is advisable to be talking about immigrants. I think that left to their own devices. Some of them would not have liked to have seen the Cats Discussion on the eating the pets from the debate stage. But they do think in general, anything that highlights immigration as a controversial topic is good for them no matter how much racebaiting as part of it. Well i mean, speaking of controversial topics, he spent half that Press Conference Today talking about this, and then also Laura Loomer, who has been traveling around with and we talked about the fact that she was at the 911 memorials with him on tuesday on the 23rd, on wednesday on the 23rd anniversary of 911 and its caused quite a moment where he was getting getting ten questions on this earlier where reporters were saying what she has said in the past that she thought 911 was an inside job, for example, and he was saying, oh, well, im not familiar with her past statements. What do you make of hit what he said on truth social tonight about her a couple of things to the question of is this a strategy . I mean, know oftentimes these are just things he wants to talk about. And sometimes they align with good politics and sometimes they dont and however controversial they may be or offensive, they may be, in this case, theres nothing especially good politically about talking about the idea that 911 was an inside job a few days after the 23rd anniversary. What i saw he posted on truth social is that shes not employed by the campaign and that she doesnt work for him, but she is a strong supporter and thats what he what hes happy. Shes standing up for. I dont think he overtly says that but that is the point. Right . I mean, she was supposed to get a job with the campaign last year. They rescinded it when we reported on it or entering know how far down the road it was, but they were they were making plans to hire her. They decided not to move head with that because shes controversial. However, shes around him, not infrequently. He clearly likes her. He clearly wants to see what she will say Donald Trump as some of the people have known him the longest, have often said, likes people who will do anything for him, and that is something Laura Loomer will do. So is that why he likes her . Because shes basically willing to do whatever she she praises him and she sees herself as his biggest defender and she will go after people who are critical of him on Social Media and he likes all of that. Today, he called her a free spirit and a supporter though he claimed to not know what what she had said it sounds its a pattern of every time he gets asphalt, someone who is controversial, just Take A Look at these other moments when hes been asked about this i dont know what she said. I dont know who the proud boys are. Just so you understand, i dont know anything about david duke. Okay . I mean, he tried to pull that when he had dinner with nick fuentes, an avowed White Supremacist at maralago. I mean, this is a pattern. I do see this is a Goto Move for almost anything that he wants to not claim ownership of, be at people who are controversial, like the figures you just said, be at people who were employed by him, who he fired, or he he dismissed thats hardly know. Im barely worked here for a short period of time he is a man of few moves and he uses over and over again. And the goal with all of these is to try to insulate himself and not be tied to it. He said today he might do a second debate with harris if hes in a better mood, whats your sense in your reporting of whether or not hes going to actually do. I think its not likely i think that if if the polling doesnt really change in One Direction or another, i think that he will he will stay where he is if changes toward him that i really dont think he will i dont expect were going to see some massive Polling Swing just because the country is so polarized, but we wont know until next week whether the Vice President got a bump i do think that his Statement Yesterday that there will be no more debates was taken a wee bit to Iron Clad for somebody who said the abc debate was terminated before agreeing to it again. And then thinking about dropping out and then showing up. I have heard things are not great inside the campaign. What are you hearing about . What what its actually like behind the scenes with his officials he brought on corey lewandowski, who was his Campaign Manager in 2016, for whom he has enormous fondness he told olivia nausea, new York Magazine that he likes him. Hes a character or i just like him, i think was the Quote But Lewandowsky has sharp elbows and i dont know that its exactly clear how things are going there right now. Maggie haberman. Thank you for starting a selfie meanwhile, Vice President harris is all in on pennsylvania tonight. Look at where shes owing, though. It is specifically Trump Country as its been known she also did her first solo sit down interview. Were going to bring that to you as were also getting new Reporting Tonight on the failures by the Secret Service that paved the way for that Trump Assassination Attempt just coming to cnn this fall pros and cons lists, pro hosted by Roy Wood junior wrote with Amber Ruffin would likely in black hole, right. So what are the cons we could run out the news by then seriousness i desperately need this to work out im in the middle of a divorce, so i let that to the river. 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And a Secret Service Radio Room, which is supposed to help Monitor Potential threats, had no way of getting real time alerts from the local police on the ground tonight, joining us is former Deputy Director of the fbi, and also cnns senior Law Enforcement analyst, andrew mccabe, and entering just looking at this, i mean, these are obviously very significant weaknesses in carolinas Report Tonight, which one of this seems to stand out and be the most egregious to you well kaitlan, thats its really hard to pick the worst of these three because theyre all really incredibly bad if we think about the Radio Room or Command Post Issue first literally everything in Law Enforcement in the post 911 era has been drifting towards the Task Force approach. The joint Command Post approach, and the idea is you bring everyone whos responsible for the security of an event into the same room specifically for this purpose so that theyre all on hand. You can contact any expert you needed at any time and that you are all sharing the same communications. Everybody brings their own communications james networks to that cp for that purpose. The idea that the service is not doing that in 2024 is just inconceivable to me this the other the other issue with the roof is also i think equally is troubling. And what really rings out to me here is the service knew that there was a real problem with the line of sight from that roof because they came up with a plan to block it. Now it wasnt the best plan, but nevertheless, the fact that they had a plan shows that they knew that that was a real problem, and yet they didnt follow through on that plan and they didnt even tell the local police to put an officer on that roof. Thats all they had to do. One person standing on that roof would have eliminated that danger and they never did it . Yeah and it seems so simple and then i think the other sinister layer of This Is It also says the Secret Service was slow to ramp up security for trump as his campaign ending out there, even despite the fact that as weve reported, there was intelligence about an iranian State Plot to kill and hurt political candidates. Thats not why this shooter was on that roof from we dont have any ties between that. But having that background and the fact that they didnt do that or were slow to do that. What does that say to you . It is inconceivable that is the most obvious oversight all Security Arrangements are premised on what we call a Threat Assessment before the event, you get your best minds together and you talk to you talked to your partner heres an other agencies and you get everybodys information together on everything that might add to this threat in this case, we know they got that information, they got this intelligence about an increased threat from iran, operatives from iran, that is a very serious thing i can tell you from my many years and protecting events of all different kinds and they didnt respond and to it. Thats the purpose of the Threat Assessments. You know what The Dangers are, and you can add additional resources and take steps to mitigate them. And that was apparently not done here at a satisfactory level its just i cant even i cant explain it. Its its its amazing and really concerning. Yeah. And obviously they will certainly be asked to explain a andrew mccabe. Thank you for joining us on Report Tonight thanks. Only Campaign Trail. Today, speaking about pennsylvania, we were seeing Vice President harris as she was out On The Road. She was asked about one of the most crucial Battleground States in her path to victory. This is what she said i am feeling very good about pennsylvania. I feel very strongly that that earn every vote and that means spending time with looks in the communities where they live. And so thats why im here and were going to be spending a lot more time in pennsylvania maybe feeling very good. But cnn has also learned tonight that the Harris Campaign Chair jen omalley dillon, is skeptical of any one clear path to winning the white house. That includes she taught her telling top aides last week the pennsylvania looks rough, though its still very possible according to what theyre seeing internally, that can be why we have seen Vice President harris spending seven of the last eight days in the commonwealth and includes events that she had in two counties that trump won by double digits in 2020, she was just there today out On The Road i Source Tonight is the pride of doylestown, pennsylvania and cnns smerconish, Michael Smerconish, who better thank my mother will love that. She thanks to you. We aim to please mobs with this show, but but seeing her On The Road in these two counties where shes probably the weakest when it comes to the whole state, the commonwealth overall, shes clearly trying to cut it into those areas. What do you make of where she picked to go today . Well, those are areas where Barak Obama was successful. And Hillary Clinton was not. She wants to emulate the former, not the latter. Theres an expression in Business Youve got to ask for the order, right . When i was trying cases at us, an attorney, i had to ask for the verdict. Shes making the ask. But i think it transcends being in just those two areas because what she talking about when shes there, among other things, shes talking about her prosecution of mexican drug cartels. Shes talking about the need to apply for a job without necessarily requiring something more than a high school diploma. She spoke today on a pennsylvania television affiliate, the Abc Affiliate in philadelphia, about her own gun ownership. These are all issues that helped move her more toward the center. So shes asking for the order in those areas, but shes sending a message to the nation as well that shes not the san francisco progressive. Youve been told that she had and what did you make of that that interview she did because she was criticized for not doing more media interviews. Shes done the Cnn Interview with with with governor tim walz, but no others since becoming the nominee, no other major ones. But shes clearly going to local Tv And Pennsylvania to try to appeal to people who are watching the news because theyre getting Home And Cooking dinner and would their kids on a Friday Night . I dont think shes made herself accessible available to the extent that a person running for president of the aisle, states should be doing. I think this is a smart political strategy now to make herself available, not at the national level, not at the network level, not at the table level, but instead to go into those Battles Brown states select the local Network Affiliate Anchor as she did today with Brian Taft from the Abc Affiliate. And consent to that interview . I think he did a fine job, but i dont think they play hardball at the Network Affiliate Level the way that they do at the national level and so therefore, i think shell probably be treated with work at gloves then she would if she were to sit down at cnn . Yeah. And you know, shes shes taking those questions. Shes talking about things like that she owned. Did gun that walz owns guns been bigger picture overall with pennsylvania. What is happening there because when i was talking to Governor Shapiro a few days ago, shes underwater there more than she is in places like michigan and are wisconsin. What is it about pennsylvania that she needs to do to try to win them though . Were constantly lumped with michigan and wisconsin. I think that there are distinct differences and that we dont necessarily move as a block i have no idea whos going to win pennsylvania. I know all The Data. I know all the polling information. I know this state very well and i know all the anecdotal information of what im told from people. A Butter Knife away from me. I dont think that anybody knows whats going to happen in pennsylvania other than it may all come down to the state its a staggering amount of money thats being spent on Television Commercials caitlin, i feel now like i guess the people in iowa or New Hampshire feel every four years. But can i tell the campaigns stop spending all your money on television because its a wash. You know, to be watching an eagles game, to be watching any other telephone from my god, its one after the other. The other its just like enough. I think you have to spend enough to be credible. Theyve reached that plateaus, spend it somewhere else. There was definitely obviously the debate on tuesday was in philadelphia, but there was a Micro Targeting going on. But between the two candidates, i want you to listen to what Harris And Trump said on that debate stage. Lets talk about fracking because were here in pennsylvania. I made that very clear in 2020 i will not ban fracking. I have not banned fracking as Vice President united my position is that we have got to invest in diverse sources of energy. So we reduce our reliance on foreign oil. You will never allow fracking in pennsylvania. If she won the Election Fracking in pennsylvania will end on day one. But if she won the election The Day after that election, theyll go back to destroying our Country And Oil will be dead Fossil Fuel will be dead what have you heard from voters in pennsylvania on My Buddy David Urban is going to disagree. Hell probably tweet at both of us tonight what he hears me say this again, i think its an overblown issue. I think the perception from a national stage as to look at pennsylvania and say, well, youve got to be supportive of fracking or you Cant Win really . Please tell that to Joe Biden until that des josh shapiro, shes trying to thread a needle now, right by having this nuanced approach. But for every time someone tells you about a job thats at stake in southwestern pennsylvania. Remember, theres no fracking where i live in the philly burbs. Nobodys fracking in the city. Nobody is fracking and montgomery county, Chester Bucks or delaware . County, and there or where i live, there are environmental concerns. So in The End, i think its almost a wash. Im not saying its its its a meaningless issue, but i think that its overstated. Thats really interesting because it is something that we talk about a lot. And i also wonder in the context of the contrast of appealing to those people well in Bucks County and other places. And what were seeing, shes got an event with oprah planned the Taylor Swift endorsement, which maybe is a Pennsylvania Strength as Governor Shapiro claims are from his own. Yeah. But what does that look like in terms of voters in pennsylvania, do they care at all about i tell you what i think it is the most important constituency in pennsylvania may be nationally in this election. And its not one that fits across tab in the poll. Its the oh my god, dont make me vote for him again. Am i going to have to vote for him again its the mindset of people who do not like him on a personal level, listened to all that. Laura Loomer Bullshit right now. This is not a guy i want to vote for, but you know what the economy is important and the market was pretty good and Interest Rates and so forth. And the price of Butter And Bread was a hell of a lot less gasoline was reasonable. We werent at war the way were worried now about russia and the situation in gaza. I am i going to have to do this . Go reach those people Michael Smerconish in an expletive on a Friday Night on a School Night, a lot to School Night for me. Remember that thank you so much. 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We Wednesday Night dynamite at 8 00 On Tbs Former president Donald Trump now suggesting that he might change his mind about doing another debate, the question is, what it would take to get him back on the stage with Vice President harris did great with the debates and i think theyve answered everything. But maybe if i got him the right Road Right or no, i wouldnt eat anything i could do it tomorrow your honor ive done two debates. Most of my republican allies had said i was great in the debate my republican Source Tonight offered a different take on the debate, saying that he thought harris actually came out on top Tuesday Night, New Hampshire governor Chris Sununu is here. Governor, welcome back. If you were advising trump, do you think you should do a second debate with harris yeah, absolutely. Look, anytime you can spend more time in front of the voters when youre in a close race, its a positive. Now, i think hes got to change his approach a little bit. It doesnt mean he has to know the issues better per say. I think he knows what he wants to say, but his style, i think would have the to change a little bit understanding what her style is. One thing that we nobody knew going into that first debate was what harris is approach or style, her demeanor, all of that sort of thing. How she would approach the question. But thats kind of known now, my sense is that the Vice President would take a similar approach. Trump would have to change his, but could be very successful. Hes gotta go it down to the level of the voters. Hes got to talk at a more empathetic, more direct level, and not just about like at 30,000 feet, right . Its not just their bad. Were good. Theyre not doing it, right . I agree with all that, by the way, but hes got to make a better connection with the voter in any chance, you have an opportunity to do that. That can only, that can only help them. Well you know, one thing one week point, obviously, if thats a polite way to describe it, was the moment when he repeated the baseless claims about haitian immigrants on stage, which shocked some of his advisers, even and just to speak to that, you didnt learn today that that springfield area Law Enforcement they actually went through 11 months of calls that they got and not a single one was about pets actually being eaten or any claims of that do you think that the Trump Campaign should just stop talking about animals at this point . Animals are usually a great thing on a campaign. I always tell Everyone Running for office, hold the puppy. But when youre talking about eating them. And in cat, ladies and all that, not know they have really handled it, handled it well, look, one thing you dont want in a in a debate is a negative viral moment, right . In a neg, something that can become a complete meme against you and mockery against you, whether its true or not or anything like that. You just got to be careful about that and i dont think they really have that approach, but theres a lot of opportunity. I think Michael Smerconish right before he had he hit it right on the head. Its not about fracking in pennsylvania. Thats kind of an Old School issue. Its exactly about those voters that are dont like him purse, dont like trump personally, but really hate the results in the policies coming out of the Bidenharris Administration and know that Shes Part of that. So its that 8 that you really got to go get and theyre gettable. A lot of them wont truly decide they may be one way or the other today. But theres Swing Voters they wont truly make up their mind until about the second or third week in october. So if the mood hits trump and he takes the right approach, a different approach, he cant do it the same way or hes going to get the same result. And i thought i had some good points and some good moments in that debate, but they werent ready for her style. And i think everybody universally pretty much agreement hes that that she outperformed everyones expectations and it came off looking pretty good, especially compared to biden. So theres an opportunity there, but they have to use the opportunity the right way. And really kinda reestablish our connection with those voters that they had in 2016. And you dont seem to think that he did that on Tuesday Night, speaking of the election, governor, you just saw signed a bill in your state that will require those who are voting for the first time to present proof of citizenship, meaning Birth Certificate passport, other official documents when they register. And also it has a strict Photo Id Requirement to vote. You had said before that you thought election changes werent needed to. Why did you change your mind . Well, a couple of things. The Bill Concern me because i didnt want the bill is signed to affect november 2024. It was too much too it was a change and it was going to be too much for all of our elected officials to adapt to it. Now that Weve Kind of waited to sign it, it doesnt really come into effect. A really 2026, and they can kind of train to it and all that. So weve taken care of for that we have a great Sound System here in New Hampshire. Theres no question about it. But if so, do you have a great Voter Id Law . Hear it works wonderfully. And this is just saying, when you register, if youre new voter, you just have to prove citizenship which everyone agrees. Only, at least in New Hampshire, only citizens should be voting. So its Common Sense stuff. Its a slight change but my concern was more about rushing it too fast and kind of messing up the training you need for the election officials going forward. But i think Itll Work as we enter the 26 election. Yeah. Well, and of course, all states think that only citizens should be voting since its, its illegal. So i think some people may look at this and say why do you you need to sign something into law to stop something thats already illegal well, again not all places. Theres theres Talk Right in my neighborhood, state of vermont, where theres talk about allowing noncitizens to vote so no legal right now people have discussed this level. Theyve looked at for federal elections at all. But again, our federal, state and municipal elections are often, sometimes all in one election. So those things have to line up. So its just a matter of saying, we also have Sameday Voter Registration here, which is a great opportunity. Works very well, but we want to make sure when folks come in and that same day, there, not just promising that theyre citizens, they just prove that their citizens. And again, its not much different than a lot of other documentation you need when do Bank Accounts in c, you said of various things across the country. You need to show that prove that youre a citizen in a variety of different ways. So thats all its just making the system a little more secure and ensuring theres not going to be any fraud down the road. Yeah. But of course, you know, theres not right now. You just said its secure yourself, but glad to be able to ask you about that, governor Chris Sununu. Thank you for joining us tonight. You bet. Up next Harris And Trump are flooding the airwaves as you just heard Michael Smerconish mentioned, we want to show you what their top arguments are to voters, especially the after Tuesday Night and also other trying to get under each other skin changing i changed. And why im not changed Sexual Orientation of not changing the political party. Were going go to the house with what we got here. Okay. 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The Harris Campaign says they spent hours pouring over footage from that debate to try to figure out what it was, what moment they wanted to keep top of mind for voters on the airwaves seen its chief media analyst, Brian Stelter is here with me tonight along with our political experts, Karen Finney and Doug Heye and karen, youre the democrat on this panel and you Harris Campaign officials told us that their internal data, what they were looking at said the Abortion Exchange is what resonated the most with undecided voters. And the question is, how long does that last . Is it something that is, is what voters are taking with them to November 5 . Well, kaitlan, thanks for that. Look, i actually also saw some internal data that suggested that that moment was incredibly powerful and it was so on two Fronts Number one, the actual issue of reproductive Freedom And Access to abortion, which obviously is a top of Mind Issue for many voters in this country also, the fact that Donald Trump was so out of touch with what is really happening day in and day out to women and the medical community throughout our country. The fact that he doesnt understand what the impact of roe v. Wade of it going back to the states, as he said, and what that really means for women across this country who are suffering greatly now that this is the way are this patchwork of laws is working yeah. Well, with abortion, even trump sees that is one of his weakest areas. They knew it wasnt going to be the strongest moment in the debate, but when you look at what the Trump Campaign is doing on the flip side, their new ad. This also started running tonight and its the first that is airing on national cable networks. Take a look. Groceries, cost you 20 more than mortgage payments astronomical. I bidenomics is working and we are very proud of bidenomics doug our count is that the campaign, the Trump Campaign has spent more than 35 Million replaying that Harris Sound by two voters to really try to dig in with them knowing that inflation in Grocery Prices is another top issue for them. The question is, do they tie that and do they blame harris . I think thats what theyre trying to make happen. And look, im not a smart as brian, so i cant tell you how many gross ratings points that debate was obviously 60 Million people plus tuned in. Its a lot of eyeballs. And what the campaign is doing is what Donald Trump wasnt able to do during the bait. And this is what we see very often in this race, is theres trump and theres the Trump Campaign. And the professionals at the Trump Campaign are having to step in and do the advertisement that yes, they would do. Anyways, but theyre doing it without the sound bites of their candidate prosecuting that case. And Donald Trump should be, we hear this language used a lot about Kamala Harris Donald Trump should be prosecuting a case about the Biden Harris Administration and those issues of where Kamala Harris and Joe Biden are underwater prices. Number one, the Border Number two. And because Donald Trump goes off in candyland, so often the campaign then has to come and do the professional thing that their Candidate Wasnt able to do. This commercial, which i think is a good one. Its a perfect example of that. Well, brian, when you look at that, i mean, on the debate stage, trump didnt hammer this as much as officials in his camp wanted him to. How important is it for his pupil . Just watching the debate, having that moment resonate with them, but also them trying to pull it out play it again, again, again, again. Its critical. I mean, voters using the economy are not just framed by the prices we pay at the Grocery Store or our ability to negotiate for a raise at our job. Its also framed by the ads we see by the Media Environment we lived in as the Gas Station Day filling up the tank of gas is under 3 where i live. Is that good or bad . Sure. Id be happy with that. Are so unhappy with that. These Ads Help Frame that discussion. These ads frankly, they help frame how voters feel about the economy. So, you know, when it comes to gas, when it comes to groceries, the repetition of these ads is crucial. Obviously the Kamala Harris Campaigns Argument is the economy is okay and were going to make it better. The Trump Campaigns argument is, its a disaster. You should be disappointed, right . Its, i think when were in pennsylvania, for example, a tugofwar of these ads is neverending yeah, theyre trying to tap into something that voters are already feel like but karen, on that point, harris did a local interview with a pennsylvania local Channel Tonight and it was with a very prominent reporter there she was asked a question about differing from Joe Biden on the economy and on other issues. And she repeated something that she said on stage Tuesday Night, which was she said, im not Joe Biden and thats a new thing that we are hearing from her. What is it subtle . What do you make of what that new messaging is . Well, its important for her to differentiate herself from President Biden and shes obviously trying to do it in a way that is not about disparaging the man himself, but that is about trying to set a new page and a new territory around. Heres what i would do. And so i think thats what shes trying to accomplish with that doug, what do you think look, thats it. But ultimately, think of the joy that we heard and all the euphoria from democrats when Joe Biden stepped away, shes not Joe Biden. Thats why democrats are happy right now. Trumps campaign is to remind voters, this is biden harris policy, and thats whats important to them. Brian, i mean, what do you whats your sense of watching it, you know, as someone whos im a little surprised. Im surprised hes saying it out loud. She so obviously visually not Joe Biden right sheet. She is the Hope And Change and youthful energy in this race its to me the images are more important than anything. Shes saying right now when she keeps filling these rallies, thats probably ill be more important than what she says out loud at the rallies yeah. Near the night she said, im also not Donald Trump, which i think everyone can agree on including Donald Trump. Thank you, everyone for being here. Have a great Friday Night. Thank you. 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I just think at some point, you know, hes only have lauren hes not played football, take care of your family my Source Tonight on this is damon and amanda, Laura Sports Insider And Host of Sirius Xm show, The Da and its great to have you because to hear Antonio Pierce there at The End say that its something hes a tough coach and an active Nfl Coach telling an active nfl player, you should now retire. The issue is that to a tagovailoa has been the subject of multiple difficult images to digest. And so theres concussions that happened quite often, but his seemed to be the ugliest in 2022, he suffered two notable concussions. One, when is head hit the turf and he got up and stumbled trying to get back to the huddle and they did not diagnose that as a concussion. They let him come back into the Football Game and finish then the next week, he hits his head again on the turf against the Cincinnati Bengals and has to be carted off so the Football Community has seen him in really ugly situations too many times in this one is kind of a Breaking Point last night. Yeah, its just an agonizing moment. Obviously. He was the quarterback at alabama. We loved watching him, his family just everyone loved him. He was beloved and this moment when this was happening last season, and he was talking about this in 20202023. He was having his kids now, his two children and taking that into consideration. So when when Antonio Pierce said there, you know, take care of your family consider that youre going to live longer than youre going to play football. Its such a moment for any player who has to weigh their health against their love of the game. Absolutely and the fact is that today also mike mcdaniel, the dolphins head coach, said please do not speculate if you do care about to a tagovailoa, dont tell him what to do which i think is this other very delicate line that we walk where two is probably going through some emotional ups and downs in the world is telling you to give up something that you love what does that do to a Human Psyche as you walk through this . So all of this is very fraught and all of this is very delicate. Well, and it raises the question question, the more we learn about cte and players protecting themselves in these moments, theres a question of is there ever a moment where the league says, if you will, this person has had this many concussions were not going to let them play. Well, theres an independent neurologist on each Side Line of every nfl game. They are not affiliated with the teams. Those are supposed to be the final line of defense. We have not gotten to a point where those neurologists or the league has said youre not allowed to play anymore, but one would imagine if this is yet another significant Brain Injury for tour, that there would be those types of doctors that are affiliated with the nfl or an unaffiliated that would say that to, to a tagovailoa, although well see what that timeframe is, hes going to have to go through five different steps of protocol just to get cleared for Football Practices . Yeah. Whats your expectation of what happens here . I was thinking about this all day today. I dont know i dont want any way to know because the Football Community wants him to retire. That was the emotion today. But for tua tagovailoa, he just signed a massive contract and hes only 26yearsold now, one would say, well, with that money, hes got financial security for the rest of his life, but hes also a guy that signed that because he wants to play football. He said two years ago when he suffered those other concussions that ive mentioned, he had thought about retiring and decided i love football too much. Why would he not feel that today . I dont know. Its such a personal decision. And this is such a unique situation because rarely have we ever had the Football World say you need to walk go away usually the Football World wants their Football Players to continue to play. But in this case, most dont. Yeah, its just a tough a tough situation. And you got to think of his family and theres such a Closeknit Family also in this that its just heartbreaking to see damon. Thank you for being here. My pleasure. Thank you. Thank you so much for joining us. 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