Transcripts For CNN The Whole Story With Anderson Cooper 20240923

Welcome to the whole story. Im anderson cooper, since his defeat in 2020, former President Donald Trump has repeatedly and falsely claimed in the election was stolen. The results somehow rigged by democrats. There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud, but that hasnt stopped mr. Trump and his allies from relentlessly pushing these lies now, many of those same defeated in november. Cnns Donie Osullivan spent the past few months with some of trumps biggest promoters, who continued to spread doubts about the security of the election and are doing whatever they can to ensure trump win. He begins with the most famous Pillow Salesman in america. [music playing] Donie Osullivan how are you . My name is Donie Osullivan. Woman ok, tony. Donie Osullivan Donie. Man johnny osullivan. Donie osullivan no, not johnny, like johnny mitchell. Man tony . Donie Osullivan Donie woman donie . Man are you an irish boy . Donie osullivan yes. Man god bless you. So am i. Donie osullivan as a journalist, i spend most of my time traveling across the country, talking to people. Man My Name is go [bleep] yourself. Donie osullivan and are you from ohio . About who they are. Man i committed to dressing like a crusader maybe five, six years ago. Donie osullivan and how they see the world. Man if you tell me youre going to release the kraken, show me the freaking kraken, for crying out loud. Donie osullivan jfk. Woman 1 senior. Woman 2 senior. Donie osullivan is jesus reincarnated. All while trying to keep an open mind. Woman biden has never been inside the white house. They are at Tyler Perry studios in atlanta. Donie osullivan as Conspiracy Theories hurt regular people. Woman 1 we will get through this. Woman 2 its caused me to lose my son. Donie osullivan and lies leads to violence. Man bringing live rounds right now and shooting people. Donie osullivan i think we better move beyond this police line. In this land of misinformation. Man get that out of my face. Donie osullivan im waiting for the Mypillow Guy. Presenter its happening now. Other things happening now. The great replacement theory. You all know that name, right . They want to replace american citizens who love the country with people who have no love for the country. Michael Lindell Mypillow sandals, 25. And for the first time ever Donie Osullivan last time i saw Mike In Person was about three years ago at his cyber symposium in south dakota, where he said he was going to prove the 2020 election was stolen. Michael lindell theres hacks in cyber attacks every day. Donie osullivan he didnt. Michael lindell so i dont need your people to go out and doctor the evidence and put out on, Mike Lindells a Conspiracy Theoriest. Donie osullivan so you havent somehow, three years later, hes still doing what hes doing. Im still doing what im doing. Neither of us are the better for it. I bet you this is him. Is this this seems like mikes convoy. Michael lindell hey, theres my buddy Donie Osullivan mike Michael Lindell whats going on . Donie osullivan how are you doing . [chuckles] its been a long time. Michael lindell whats going on . How you doing . Donie Osullivan Welcome to Las Vegas. Michael lindell good to see you. Donie osullivan did you just landed . Michael lindell a lot of history here. Did you ever read my book . I lived here for a while. A lot of bad things. Donie osullivan wed come to Las Vegas to meet the countrys most famous Pillow Salesman. Look Michael Lindell are you going to pay attention this time . Donie osullivan ill try. Ill try. And one of the countrys biggest Election Deniers. Man singing by the dawns early light. Donie Osullivan Mike was in town for a couple of mega events. The election was still seven months away, but here, it was all about getting trump back into the white house. Woman yeah, my husband has this one. Donie osullivan it felt like half tent revival. Man because were just talking to god right now. Donie osullivan sure. Man father god, i just thank you for donie, lord. Donie osullivan half trump rally. Man wheres all the media thats snaking around here . You can come right up here. Donie osullivan or it seemed like everyone was selling something. Movies. Michael flynn im going to shamelessly plug my movie. Number one on amazon of all dvds thats sold on amazon. Donie osullivan and miracles. Woman balances the brain hemispheres. Donie osullivan ok. Woman yeah. Man you allow the cells to detox and come back into harmony with the body. Donie osullivan i feel like im being abducted by aliens or something. But mike was here to sell more than pillows. He was on a crusade to save american democracy. Presenter its thursday, 18 april, the year of our lord, 2024. Crowd Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump stephen k. Bannon weve got the great Mike Lindell up here. [cheering] and no, were not going to start with an infomercial on lumpy pillows or free shipping. Michael Lindell Promo code war room. Man hey, mike. How are you . Donie osullivan can we go here . Michael lindell i think last time you interviewed me, i lost my voice. Remember that . Donie osullivan yeah, back in 2021 . Michael lindell yeah. Donie Osullivan Mike, its three years on. Michael lindell right. Donie osullivan youre still doing this . Michael lindell yeah. Got to save our country, huh . Donie osullivan theres a lot of people in this for cynical reasons, right . To make money, to get famous. You strike me as somebody who truly, truly believes the 2020 election was rigged . Michael lindell you cant see im a grifter when im 40 Million in and they keep attacking my company, and im decimated. My battle is to get rid of the machines and get to Paper Ballots handcounted. Its not about a conspiracy of overturning the 2020 election. Donie Osullivan Voiceover but mike did try to overturn the 2020 election, something he doesnt like pointed out. Michael lindell you would want it to be the best in the world, but this isnt about the 2020 election. What theyre going to show Donie Osullivan what am i going to learn here tonight . Michael lindell what youre going to learn is that their computers that are used our election have god keys, Decryption Keys in there. They have the passcodes inside them, and theyre on the internet, and theyre using software that was illegal, and thats what the Supreme Court will see themselves. Now, dont you think the judge should at least open up and say, hey, You Guys, we got a big problem here, and its connected to where . China. Donie Osullivan Voiceover its hard to follow What Mike actually believes, but ultimately, hes convinced, wrongly, that the 2020 election was stolen through hacked Voting Machines, and now he wants to get rid of them. Michael Lindell Tomorrows the big day. If they pull that in, itll be 90 they will vote. Donie Osullivan Voiceover we met Mike A Day before the Supreme Court was due to consider a case he had funded against Election Officials in arizona in an effort to get rid of Voting Machines there. Michael lindell are we going live on frankspeech . Subject yeah. Michael lindell yeah, yeah, yeah. Were going to let You Guys film us being live on frankspeech. Donie Osullivan Voiceover after mike and other trump supporters were kicked off Social Media Platforms following January 6th for spreading Election Conspiracy theories. Michael lindell we have a Social Media platform. Its like a Youtube Twitter combination. Donie Osullivan Voiceover mike set up his own Social Media and video streaming platform, frankspeech. Michael lindell this thing over here at Frankspeech And Lindell tv, has done two things. One, is gave us A Platform to reach out to all of you with my pillow products, and then also to keep our voice going. Donie Osullivan Voiceover its got its own slate of tv shows. Wayne allyn our guest is ben berkman, whos been on here many times. We love ben. Ben berkman hey, wayne. Its great to be back with you. [dramatic music] Rudy Giuliani good evening. This is Rudy Giuliani with the Rudy Giuliani show. Michael lindell i want to tell you, when we all started winning, and that was on January 7 and january 8, of 2021. Our real president lost his twitter. Remember that . So everybody that had even spoke out about the election or questioned it, they were deplatformed but since that day, our voices kept getting bigger, and bigger, and bigger. I set up the cause of america, my own network, frankspeech. I said, i got to reach the public. God wins in the end. Thank you. God bless you. Donie Osullivan Voiceover but Mike Wasnt the only one here with an Election Conspiracy theory. Man the election was stolen in six battleground states. Those six states were decided by the votes of illegal aliens who came in through our open border. Donie Osullivan Voiceover these false beliefs about the last election are being used as a pretext to cause Chaos And Confusion about the next election, and theyve spread far beyond this room in vegas. Kim Yeater Freedom Freedom protester this is not a fight between democrats versus republicans. Kim yeater come on. Come on. Protester this is a fight against good and evil. Donie osullivan do you think it will be a fair election . Protester i think theyre going to try and cheat. Protester our Voting System was always a facade. Donie osullivan are you concerned if trump loses . Protester yeah. Donie osullivan that there will be another January 6 . Protester no, i think there will be a Civil War. [dramatic music] Donie Osullivan voiceover wed come to the southern border in california to meet a religious group called take our border back. Kim yeater come on. Come on. So all you live streamers, this is it. This is what its going to take action. A body in motion tends to stay in motion. Weve got to take action. Close the border Donie Osullivan voiceover one of its leaders is kim yeater. Kim yeater were at war, and it is a spiritual war against principalities of darkness. [ululating] come on, were appealing to heaven. Mexico, thats right protester were rolling down to the border to get the message through. Kim Yeater Freedom [cheering] amen. Amen. Protesters amen. Kim yeater amen, father god. Protester hallelujah kim Yeater Hallelujah Father god, we come before you, god, in the name of jesus. Father, we come before you. We love you. We praise you. We speak out to mexico right now. We speak out to the ends of the earth right now. We pray for victory over satan. Victory over the enemy. Lets Break Bread in jesuss name. [curious music] Donie Osullivan kim. How are you . Kim yeater come on. So good to meet you. Donie osullivan how are you doing . Im donie. Kim yeater tony Donie Osullivan donie, yeah. Kim yeater great, to meet you. Donie osullivan nice to meet you. Donie Osullivan Voiceover kim is a life coach. Kim yeater donie, are you a Human Doing or a Human Being . Donie Osullivan Voiceover and now an online influencer. Kim yeater do you see my bling . So, mike, ive been censored and canceled. Michael lindell wow. [interposing voices] Michael Lindell well, im going to go like this. No way. Donie osullivan you really got politically involved in 2020. Kim yeater thats a great question, donie. So i got to tell you, i am not into politics at all, nor do i have an interest in politics. Im into truth. So I Cant say i got politically involved. I got truthinvolved. This is the take our border back north america alliance. Donie Osullivan Voiceover the Groups Name may be take our border back. Kim yeater border, border, border, were here because of the border. Donie Osullivan Voiceover but the topics here. Protester what were dealing with today is an evil oligarchy. Protester its We The People versus the deep state. Donie Osullivan Voiceover range from fighting communism. Protester he told my mom, honey, theyre coming for me. My mom said, what . Who . The communists. Communism is here. Theyre not practicing it, theyre enforcing it here. Donie Osullivan Voiceover to fifth Generation Warfare. Protester fifth Generation Warfare is basically anything thats nonkinetic, vtok, voice to skull technology. Donie Osullivan Voiceover and of course, elections. Kim yeater does the Ballot Box Matter . Does your voice being heard matter . Protester we all know what happened. Joe biden didnt win. Donie Osullivan Voiceover many of the people at this event believe american elections are in some way corrupt, like noel. No l regardless of the problems of the election, the process, the machines, our government keeping us in our boxes and not being able to congregate together. [mellow music] [laughter] Donie Osullivan what would you describe yourself as . Are you an activist . [interposing voices] Donie Osullivan influencer . Are you an influencer . No l they say influencer. I dont know like how true that rings. Donie Osullivan Voiceover online shes known as Patriot Mom 007. No l are some things in place for the Illegals Voting and being able to register in really sneaky ways. Donie osullivan this idea that undocumented immigrants who are coming into the Country Today will vote in novembers election. No l probably. No doubt. Donie osullivan when it comes in the president ial federal election. Do you think thats actually going to happen . No l i mean, i think the probability is better than not. I mean, if were being realistic and honest about it Donie Osullivan in a meaningful way . No l do you not think its possible that thats going to happen, just knowing what you do, and all the Donie Osullivan they would need citizenship, though, right . To vote . No l well, ideally. Well, ideally, yes. I mean, if youre following the laws, but if youre already a group of people who dont follow the laws. Kim yeater thats not even a question anymore. Theres election fraud, period, period. Theres so much evidence. You see, in 2020, my vote was stolen. So that was the kind of Great Awakening for me to realize that my vote had been taken. Donie Osullivan Voiceover kim says her interest in elections began when she claims she went to vote in 2020 and was told someone already had voted using her identity. Kim yeater we didnt vote. We hadnt voted at all. We hadnt mailed anything and nothing, and so that was the beginning of, somethings not right. How are they thinking that i voted . Who voted for me . When we started taking our elections back Donie Osullivan voiceover but kim was given a provisional ballot and was able to cast a vote. Donie osullivan you, having the issue, you had to vote in 2020, you dont necessarily know that has anything to do with undocumented immigrants, right . Kim yeater so i personally do not know that. Now, if were going to talk about the illegal immigrants coming in and having the ability to vote, thats a question that we all need to ask. Donie Osullivan Voiceover undocumented immigrants are not allowed to vote in federal elections in the united states, and multiple studies have shown it is extremely rare. Man im concerned about the number of illegals that are in our country that are able to vote. Donie Osullivan Voiceover but its a lie thats being pushed over, and over, and over again by maga influencers. Man I Cant imagine how many illegals are registered to vote in a state like california. Man the Us Code as of right now would allow illegal aliens to vote in the upcoming president ial election. Donald Trump Jr. no, we dont have to worry about the reliable voting blocs. Well just bring in 20 more million people and well give them social security numbers. Donie Osullivan Voiceover some in the maga world, like Steve Bannon, have huge followings. Kim Yeater War on the border. Donie Osullivan Voiceover others, like kim and noel have a much smaller audience, but together they form part of a huge and sustained chorus of Election Denialism. Ben Bergquam Middle of nowhere, hot as hell. Man vivek, how are you, my friend . [slurping] man mmhmm. Donie Osullivan Voiceover many of them have been shut down on major Social Media Platforms for sharing Conspiracy Theories. Man 95 of it is just the rockefeller foundation. Man even if hes in jail, hell get elected president. Donie Osullivan Voiceover theyre part of a new world of Social Media sites that promote themselves as free speech platforms. Man nick di paolo, bryan callen, the hodgetwins, mr. Guns and gear, and of course, alex jones. Man sleep like a baby. Man be sure to go to mypillow. Com. Donie Osullivan Voiceover and a lot of them. Woman mypillow is the only pillow you can buy that Fights Tyranny and communism. Donie Osullivan Voiceover sell pillows. Woman go to mypillow. Com and use Promo Code trump. Man thank god for mypillow. Com. Promo code, frontline. Kim Yeater Tap into the mypillow complete mattress sleep system. I absolutely love mine. Donie osullivan you have a mypillow Promo Code. Kim yeater well. [laughter] Donie Osullivan its kim, right . Kim yeater it is kim. Mypillow. Com kim. [ululating] Donie Osullivan voiceover but what might have started with a problem at a polling location. Kim yeater the agenda is to depopulate. Donie Osullivan Voiceover seems to have dragged kim down a rabbit hole. Kim Yeater Anything with the rothschilds is absolutely sinister. Period. Now we know that soros is just another puppet, isnt he. This was set up and this was deliberate. We somehow are losing our sovereignty and our voice is being stolen. Whats really happening is theres a Global Agenda, so theres a Global Agenda being pushed. Weve got to follow the money Donie Osullivan whos pushing the Global Agenda . Kim yeater you know, if i drop names right now, the first and easiest thing for people to say is, ah, conspiracy. She mentioned george soros, oh, conspiracy. Donie osullivan antisemitic. Kim yeater antisemitic. Yeah, ridiculous. I love jews, by the way. Did i tell you that . I love middle eastern people. I love portuguese people. I love people of every nationality, every color, every race. I just love people, because were all gods children, period. singing our god is an awesome god Donie Osullivan voiceover through my reporting, ive met a lot of people like kim. Its always tough to just how much of what they are saying they really believe. Donie osullivan i know a lot of people on the left, cynically, we will look at and say, she has seen a niche here to become successful in this new information ecosystem, because it could potentially be lucrative. Kim yeater can i tell you a secret . This has not been lucrative in any way. This has cost me my time. Its cost me time with family. Its cost me time even in working my own business. This has been lucrative in no way. Donie Osullivan Voiceover but one thing was clear. [kaching] Michael Lindell for all of you out there that buy my products. Donie Osullivan Voiceover Mike Lindell and his pillows. Donie osullivan the mypillow hq. Donie Osullivan Voiceover were helping keep this world of Election Denialism alive. Michael lindell now, dont trust me on a golf cart. I once drove one right into a pond once. [upbeat music] Pete G. Writes, my tween wants a new phone. How do i not break the bank . We gotcha, pete. Xfinity mobile was designed to save you money and gives you access to wifi speeds up to a gig. So you get high speeds for low prices. Better than getting low speeds for high prices. Right, bruce . Jealous . Yeah, look at that. Honestly. Someone get a helmet on this guy. Xfinity internet customers, ask how to get a free 5g Phone and a second unlimited line free for a year. Switch today why choose a mobile network built for places youll probably never be. Instead of for where you are most of the time . Xfinity mobile was designed for where you need it most. Xfinity internet customers, ask how to get a free 5g Phone and a second unlimited line free for a year. Waitress what can i get started for you . Donie osullivan could i get a small iced americano . Waitress all right. Go ahead and move forward. Ill have the total for you at the window. Donie osullivan thank you. Were going to see the Mypillow Guy. Waitress the Mypillow Guy . Donie osullivan yeah. Waitress that sounds like a lot of fun. Donie osullivan i know. Does he come by for coffee . Waitress probably all the time. Donie osullivan well just head on in. Hell. How are you . Were here to see mike. [curious music] oh, wow. Dont know What Mike is thinking about how bad this interview could go, but i just spotted a gun on his desk, so. Ohoh. How are you . Michael lindell good, good, good. How are you doing, guys . Donie osullivan good to see you. Michael lindell good to see you. Donie osullivan just admiring your Michael Lindell i dont usually work on that desk. I usually work right here, and everybody comes in. Donie osullivan no problem. Michael Lindell Thats fine. I got a couple things i got to do and then well be heading down there, but Donie Osullivan when we visited mike, the first item on his agenda was a call with a company that would help him navigate big techs rules against misinformation, allowing him to promote his platform, frankspeech. Michael lindell the Number One thing is frankspeech platform, because it all centers around that. If i have a voice, i can pretty much guide anything anywhere, but if i dont have my voice, which is why i made frankspeech in the first place. Employee our goal is to get you on these platforms, getting views without getting taken down, and its a constant, constant battle. Michael lindell and youre making awareness for the platform frankspeech, correct . Employee thats correct. Michael Lindell Thats it. Youre hired. Ok. Donie Osullivan Voiceover Mike Lindell, is an american success story. Michael lindell fitting you with a mypillow is very important, so that you get the right amount of fill for you as an individual. singing now i see Donie Osullivan voiceover he went from crack addict. Michael lindell now, that hologram, that picture there, is where the Drug Dealers did an intervention on me in 2008. Donie osullivan your Drug Dealers did an intervention . Michael lindell they did an intervention. Donie Osullivan Voiceover to ceo. Michael lindell hello. Hello. Hello. Employees hello hello Michael Lindell hello. Hello. So when they stack these up, and shes looking for any flaws. This is the first part of making sure everythings perfect. Theres dick. Hes in the book. Dick mike. Michael lindell dick, cnns here. They want to interview you. Donie Osullivan Voiceover hes given jobs to people whove suffered from addiction like he did. Michael lindell yeah, he was my kind of hope man. She had been clean and sober for three years when he came to me the month before i quit everything. Now, heres my original invention. You see this thing with the Round Holes . Donie osullivan yeah. Michael lindell i had to change that out three times to get the different sizes i needed when i invented mypillow. These were how i did my shows back in the day. So i would sit there Donie Osullivan ah Michael Lindell if you came to me. Donie osullivan but i sleep like this normally. Michael lindell right. Donie osullivan and this arm gets sore. Michael lindell right, your arm gets sore. You dont need that with a mypillow, because whats happening is your pillow is going flat and your body wants to keep your neck straight. Donald trump its good to see you here. Michael lindell sir. Donie Osullivan Voiceover its hard to imagine now. Michael lindell well, it seems like a lifetime ago that we met in august of 2016, right . Donie Osullivan Voiceover but until a few years ago, mike had no interest in politics. Michael lindell he invited me to trump tower, and i walked out of his office about 40 minutes later, i said, i dont know what a president i had never voted before in my life. Donie osullivan really. Michael lindell i had never. I didnt know i was a crack head. I didnt know a republican from a democrat. I didnt know what a filibuster from a milibuster. Donie osullivan you never voted for 2016 . Michael lindell no. My whole life. I didnt think politics affected me at all, and one of the things that youve shown us all, is that it affects almost everything in our lives. Donald trump yeah. Michael lindell the politics do. Normally, if youve seen this Donie Osullivan voiceover but his belief in Election Conspiracy theories and his insistence on pursuing them, has almost cost him his business. Donie osullivan and The Box stores and stuff kicked you out after January 2021 . Michael Lindell January 9, when i got all the evidence. Donie osullivan but do you realize what youre doing when it comes to elections . It risks all of this. Michael lindell right. Like the world has risked all that, but I Cant risk our country. I wont back down. Donie osullivan theres no moment where you say, you know what . I should just go back. Focus on pillows. Michael lindell never, never, never. I will never look back. I cant unsee what ive seen and I Cant unknow what i know. If You Guys knew what i know, youd be saying, wow, now i get it. Donie osullivan i want to try to find out. I want to try to understand. [curious music] Michael Lindell so this machine, i took if for only one thing. Everything we send out has a bible verse in it. [interposing voices] Donie Osullivan wait, so this is custommade to put a bible Michael Lindell custommade to put a bible verse in every single package that goes out of here. Donie osullivan what . [interposing voices] Donie Osullivan those who become christians become new persons. Michael Lindell Thats 2 corinthians 5 17. Donie osullivan thats as trump would say, two corinthians. Michael lindell yeah. Yeah. [mumbles] back there . Donie osullivan yeah. [curious music] Donie Osullivan Voiceover Id stepped into Mike Lindells factory, into his world. Donie osullivan robots . Michael lindell these are little what they do. [interposing voices] Donie Osullivan robots. Donie Osullivan Voiceover but the more i spoke to him. Donie osullivan do you have evidence of a stolen Michael Lindell in 2020 . Yeah, absolutely. The evidence we have is the casbolt records. Donie Osullivan Voiceover the more it was clear when it came to elections, that his was a world of pure imagination. Michael lindell you see that guy. Donie osullivan i think its two different things, right . You can say, theres issues with Voting Machines, et cetera, but you dont have to go as far as saying that the 2020 election was stolen. Michael lindell for me, i havent said that. You guys have been the ones saying that. Ive said that in the beginning. Yes, it was stolen. I know it was stolen. Ive evidence it was stolen. We got to secure our Election Platform and learn from that. I dont care if it was completely turned over or not. We got a big problem here where computers are in our election. Donie osullivan did you have a good night . Donie Osullivan Voiceover when we last Saw Mike In Vegas Michael Lindell thats what youre going to learn. Thats what the Supreme Court will see themselves. Donie Osullivan Voiceover he was confident that a case he had helped bring to the Supreme Court challenging the use of Election Machines in arizona would be accepted by all nine Supreme Court justices. Michael lindell and im telling you, its going to be a 90 vote going, wow. Donie Osullivan Voiceover in the end, the court refused to even hear the case, but Mike Wasnt fazed, or at least he didnt act like he was. Michael lindell our victories, everybody. These are our little victories, which are big victories. People see, oh, mike, your just supreme Court Case got turned down. How do you feel . I feel great. Donie osullivan all right. So what are you doing now . Youre going on with bannon . Michael lindell yeah. Hey, denver employee hi, sir. How are you today . Michael lindell not too bad. Not too bad. Well do the give away, the flag and the mypillow 2. 0. Donie osullivan youre doing a promo On Bannon too . Michael lindell this one, yeah. We buy advertising all over, podcasts everywhere. Donie osullivan how many shows like bannons are you on . Michael lindell like podcasts . You know well, almost all of them. I dont know, thats 100 to 200. But we had this long before this election stuff. Donie osullivan any kind of Protrump Maga media i see, i always see a Mypillow Ad on there. Michael lindell this country will be saved narrator war room, heres your host, stephen k. Bannon. Stephen k. Bannon catherine oneill, formerly in Trump Administration one. Youre selling the best beef in the world, where do people go . Catherine oneill if you go to merriweather Michael Lindell see, like shes doing beef right now. Stephen k. Bannon Mike Lindell, peoples heads have been blown up about this deal. Talk to me. Give me a deal before i go to the 6 00 hour. Michael lindell all right. And now, steve, we had a great day with cnn. Remember, they toured the factory, everybody, and so we did. You guys get a free goanywhere mypillow, and the mypillow 2. 0, free with any purchase. As we know, we all need the best sleep of our lives during these attacks. Steve, its been quite a day with these cnn guys. I got 20 cameras on me right now. Stephen k. Bannon is this donie . Is this our friend from cnn, donie the irishman . Michael lindell hes right here. Stephen k. Bannon donie is an assassin. He comes across that little leprechaun thing, hes an assassin. Watch out for him. Hes a killer. Watch that guy. Michael lindell yep. Ok. [interposing voices] stephen k. Bannon ok. Stick around. Boom stick around. [dramatic music] protester i want to thank god for his great mercy on our nation, and thank god for protecting President Donald Trump yesterday. Crowd amen [applause] Donie Osullivan where were you when you heard the news last night . Protester i was at home sitting on my couch, and i was devastated by what i saw. I couldnt believe my eyes. I mean, this is america. Protester they almost just killed our president. They almost just murdered him. Donie osullivan we are at the Republican National Convention in milwaukee. Trump was almost just assassinated. Its the first attempted assassination of a us president in the age of Social Media. Politician ill put it this way, i wouldnt be surprised if it was some sort of inside job. [popping] Secret Service get down get down Donie Osullivan voiceover the bullets had barely been fired before there was Conspiracy Theories, everywhere, all over the internet, on the right and on the left, about what had happened or what hadnt really happened. Crowd Usa Usa Usa Donie Osullivan we were just at a vigil where trump supporters were praying for the former president. Now were on our way to an antitrump protest thats happening just outside the convention here. Protester the people united will never be defeated im here to protest trump in a Swing State where it matters even more. Donie osullivan is there a Number One issue for you, or . Protester yeah, definitely. Womens rights, abortion laws. Donie osullivan how did you feel when you saw he almost got assassinated . Protester i didnt feel too passionately in either direction. I think that bad things happen to bad people. Donie osullivan how did you feel when you saw the Assassination Attempt . Protester do you really want to know . Donie osullivan yes. Protester the first thing that ran through my head is because we cannot believe this man ever, that it was somehow fake. Now that a man died, its horrid. And i think it is a terrible comment on the Countrys State right now that anyone would think anywhere that its appropriate to shoot at any political candidate. But i couldnt Help But Wonder because weve been lied to over and over by this man. Donie osullivan i assume, just as youve watched what trump supporters say about the election, or how January 6 was, black lives matter, or an inside job, now you kind of sound like them. Youre saying, well, maybe it was a staged Assassination Attempt. Protester right. And i hate that thats what im doing. I hate that thats where i have gone, and i wonder why ive gone there. And is it because i am constantly hearing them say these kind of things . I dont like that this is where weve gotten in this country, because there has been this pervasive and it has come mainly from trump and his supporters this pervasive misinformation that has become a part of our country. [dramatic music] Donie Osullivan people like mary dont really know what to believe, in part because of how fractured our Media Environment has become. And that brings us here to Media Row. Reporter ive been against political violence and i hate what happened to trump. Donie osullivan real americas voice, daily signal, a outlets that most americans have never heard of, but its where hundreds of thousands, millions of people, are getting more and more of their news, their information, and misinformation. Ben bergquam we exist because You Guys are doing such a poor job. Our network and i would say others, are kind of filling the vacuum that the mainstream media, fake news media, were leaving. Woman don Donie Osullivan see, don jr. , from the trump campaign, realizes just how important this new Media Universe is, right. He is going from booth to booth here doing interviews because this is where the audience is. Would you agree . Michael lindell hey, im going to tell you something because youre right. You know what . Let me tell you something. Donie Osullivan Voiceover i had barely stepped foot in Media Row before running into Mike Lindell. Michael lindell the manifestations. People that got their voices taken away, they started podcasts, they started all these News Hour things blows up. Donie Osullivan Voiceover mike was on his way to do another Pillow Promotion on the Steve Bannon show, but since we last met, mike, bannon had gone to jail, and his daughter had taken over hosting. Maureen bannon mike, i know my dad has said in order to support him, support our sponsors. Michael lindell i promised your dad when he went in. This is our political prisoner special, exclusive to the war room. This is the most affordable Mattress Topper in history. [dramatic music] Donie Osullivan voiceover trumps Assassination Attempt injected this Years Rnc with a new sense of urgency, but not without a sense of humor. [dramatic music] Russell Brand ive never been to anything like this. This is somewhere between a carnival and a trade fair, and im so confused. Man what is Trump Poetry . Salesman this is the greatest Poetry Book of all time, written by the greatest poet of our generation. It is his tweets from 2009 to 2019 as Concrete Poetry in the style of e. E cummings. Man i am a defender of miley cyrus, who i think is a good person, not because she stares at, lets say, my hotel, but last nights outfit must go. [upbeat music] Donie Osullivan are you working here. Oh, youre buying. Woman im buying. Donie osullivan what are you buying . Woman im Buying Lee greenwoods bible. I want trump to sign it, and lee greenwood. 75. [upbeat music] Donie Osullivan 3. Woman 25. What do you think . Should i get it . Donie osullivan i think you should. Woman yeah. Donie osullivan whats Patriot Mobile . Salesman what are we . Donie osullivan yeah. Salesman were americas only christian conservative wireless provider. Donie osullivan patriots only . Patriot mobile, because you do not want to be one of those liberal phone networks. All right. Donie Osullivan Voiceover but amid the carnival atmosphere, talk of a dark future. Morgann mcmichael i think if it comes to november, and all of a sudden, we see the fraud happening and trump doesnt pull off a win, i think its going to start a riot. Donie Osullivan Voiceover and the familiar Conspiracy Theory that undocumented immigrants were going to steal the election in november, also widespread here. [dramatic music] Donie Osullivan do you think Noncitizens Voting is an issue . Protester yeah, yeah. Protester theres no question. Its a huge issue. Protester now, only united states citizens should be voting in america. Donie osullivan but theyre not going to get a ballot, though, will they . They wont be on a voter roll. Protester theyll be able to go up to any clerk and claim that theyre a last minute registrant, and vote. Donie Osullivan Voiceover the Conspiracy Theories spewed here in Media Row are the same being preached from the podium at the main stage of the rnc. Donald Trump Biden and harris want illegals to vote now that theyve opened up the border. [dramatic music] woman i think what were seeing now is that the border has become even more politicized than ever. Donie Osullivan Voiceover so many of these narratives emerge at the southern border, so we went there to find the facts. [dramatic music] woman i heard a quote recently that the real crisis at the border is that many americans have lost their hearts, that they are dehumanizing people out here. [dramatic music] Pete G. Writes, my tween wants a new phone. How do i not break the bank . We gotcha, pete. Xfinity mobile was designed to save you money and gives you access to wifi speeds up to a gig. So you get high speeds for low prices. Better than getting low speeds for high prices. Right, bruce . Jealous . Yeah, look at that. Honestly. Someone get a helmet on this guy. Xfinity internet customers, ask how to get a free 5g Phone and a second unlimited line free for a year. Switch today we have these flags, theyre feet high so that they can be seen for several miles. The blue is the universal symbol of water. Donie Osullivan Voiceover Humane Borders is a charity that gives water to migrants crossing the usmexican border. Donie osullivan youve been doing this more than 20 years . Woman humane mean borders was founded in the year 2000. If you look statistically at whos coming in through the border, immigrants are much less likely to commit crimes than usborn citizens. Ben bergquam I Cant even turn the camera. Donie Osullivan Voiceover the maga Media Universe once portrayed the border in one way. Ben bergquam this youre like, ok, whats the blue flag, guys . Whats the blue flag . Weve got Water Stations now. This is set up here for illegals. Man these are militaryaged men. Like theyre in their 20s, man, and theyre not coming here with families. Are you going to vote for Joe Biden . Man Joe Biden. Ben bergquam yeah. Ok. Theyre all going to vote for Joe Biden. You did it, joe. Woman these are political opportunists who are coming to the border for a Photo Op to try to convince people that this is a scary place. [dramatic music] Donie Osullivan voiceover as we traveled along the border [chatter] we suddenly came upon a group that had just crossed into the us, mostly children and women, some pregnant, waiting in 100 degree heat. Woman its ok . Its ok . [nonenglish speech] Dora Rodriguez hey, we had to move to the side because theyre going to get really pissed off at us. [dramatic music] Donie Osullivan Voiceover Border Patrol eventually arrived. [nonenglish speech] [side conversation] this group would be taken in to be processed, and within 24 hours, some of them could be sent back to mexico. Further down the wall, migrants sat in a makeshift Camp Waiting to be picked up by border patrol. Dora rodriguez hi, honey. Woman hi. Dora rodriguez how are you . So do you know whats going to happen when they come to pick you up . One word. I need asylum. [nonenglish speech] ok . Donie Osullivan Voiceover some here were the socalled militaryaged Men Trumpworld keeps talking about. Dora rodriguez when the agent come, you say, we want asylum. You have a right to be here and ask for asylum. [side conversation] Donie Osullivan voiceover Dora Rodriguez fled El Salvador and crossed the border into the united states in 1980. Dora rodriguez i was just 19 years old, a kid that did not know the world. And then after five days wandering this desert in 115 degrees, 13 of my friends died, including three kids, 12, 14 and 16. Three sisters. Border patrol all right. Ok. You guys are all going Donie Osullivan this sort of new talking point, these people are coming into the country so they can be used to vote democrat, so they can steal this next election. Dora rodriguez right. Do you believe that . If youre in your right mind, you will not believe that, because thats not true. People that is coming to this country and they have come for centuries, this is not new. People has come to this country because they trust this country. So its a lot of misinformation, but its for one purpose, to create fear because fear sells. [side conversation] we see our people here presenting with their children. Youre not telling me that a fiveyearold is coming to take your vote or to invade your cities. [side conversation] Donie Osullivan just like Social Media and the internet, you can come here and find the story you want to find and the narrative you want to push, right . If i were a guy whos streaming on facebook and antiimmigrant, i show off here, this is what i see. This is a camp, no sign of kids. Just all these young people, militaryaged men. [side conversation] see how the Narrative Kind of can get shaped very easily with that . I think people on the left are also wrong to say that it is only kids and women. [dramatic music] Donie Osullivan voiceover after we left the border, we headed north to Phoenix And Maricopa county. In 2020, maricopa became a hotbed of Election Conspiracy theories after trump lost here, and it could happen all over again in 2024. Donie osullivan you are one of the top Election Officials here in maricopa county, and your name is Bill Gates . Bill gates it is. It is. Its true. [dramatic music] Stephen Richer nobody ever just says, you should trust electronics because you should just trust them. So this is an important step before the election to make sure that the tabulators are working as intended. Donie Osullivan Voiceover we were in maricopa as the county tested its machines that count votes. Representatives from both political parties were here to witness it for themselves. Stephen richer and then there are tests after the election as well to make sure that the tabulators stayed consistent and were Reading Ballots as they should. [dramatic music] Donie Osullivan voiceover tests like these happen all over the country, but they seem to do little to quell Conspiracy Theories about Voting Machines. Michael lindell i dont trust any election that was ever used with the computers, ever. I want to get to Paper Ballots, handcounted. [chatter] Bill Gates Everyone Votes on paper here. So this is part of these Conspiracy Theories that people are voting like touch touchscreen, like theyre ordering a burger at mcdonalds. Its on paper, and the Paper Ballots go through the machines. Thats how theyre tabulated. But also keep in mind that we do several audits, and one of them is a Hand Count, a percentage of those votes to make sure that the Hand Count is consistent with those machine counts. Donie Osullivan Voiceover Bill And Stephen are both republicans. Theyve been battling Election Conspiracy theories for years, even when theyre tweeted by elon musk. Stephen richer i dont know. I guess it just caught me at the moment where i said, i want to say something about this. And so the allegation was that you dont have to be a citizen to be able to vote in arizona. You must be a citizen. It is unlawful, it is a felony if you vote and you are not a citizen. Your Immigration Process will become much, much, much, much, much more challenging. Bill gates look, there are issues at the border, i dont dispute that, but as it relates to voting, its not something that im concerned about. And this is unfortunately just another Conspiracy Theory thats now being thrown at the american people so that those who maybe dont like where the final results end up, will then point to that and say, well, thats why i didnt win. Michael Lindell Thats my guys. Ive been looking everywhere for you cnn guys. Donie osullivan ive spent a lot of time with lindell recently. I will say, weve had a lot of laughs together. He is an entertaining man, but what Mike Lindell is doing is dangerous. Bill gates i think anyone who is spreading misinformation about our election system, its dangerous. Not only is it further rattling Peoples Faith in the system, but in some instances, it leads to threats to our elections workers. [dramatic music] Joe Oltmann what happens if they steal the election in november . Morgann mcmichael i honestly think there might be a Civil War in our country. Tim ballard true, frankspeech, the answer is people have to put this into their own hands. Donie Osullivan Voiceover mike has helped create a dangerous myth that a Trump Loss in november can only come about through cheating, and a world where serial Election Deniers like Rudy Giuliani have their own show. Donie osullivan a sincere question, because ive been thinking about this a lot. Youre addicted to this. Michael lindell no, no. Im not addicted to this. You know what i want . Every place i go, we have one shot to get rid of these electronic Voting Machines and get to Paper Ballots. Im passionate about it because if you knew what i knew, you wouldnt stop either Donie Osullivan i know. I think you mean well. Michael lindell yeah. Donie osullivan but i think what youre doing is probably pretty dangerous. Michael lindell ok, but i dont agree with that. Why is that dangerous that i want us to have secure elections . Tell me that. How come they Donie Osullivan youre supporting, right. You have helped Build A Universe Through Frankspeech and franksocial. Kim yeater in 2020, my vote was stolen. This was Donie Osullivan voiceover a universe of influencers and Media Outlets spewing misinformation. Misinformation, that could cause Confusion And Chaos this november. [chatter] Donie Osullivan and its the Media Outlets like these that are becoming increasingly influential. Trump loses, theyre going to be used to build up the narrative that the election was stolen. And if he wins, theyre going to be used to push protrump propaganda. Theres going to be a lot more of this. 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