Host gary shapiro, this years ces, what are some of the buzz products . Gary well, ces 2018 is pretty big, and products, you know, theres a lot of focus on Artificial Intelligence in many different ways. So, we have the smart speakers which, you know, alexa and google home. Obviously, googles huge here, but were talking about other products into the home and the car. Were also talking about Artificial Intelligence in another way, and that is smart cities. We have a big focus on smart cities for the first time. We have the secretary of transportation here talking about it and a lot of different groups focusing on it. And thats not about the to assume her is, in a sense, for business and government. It is business to those investing and making our lives and cities better because twothirds of the population will live in cities soon compared to onethird in 1960. Other big things, of course, is we continue that Movement Toward selfdriving cars. We know were getting there, theres more and more companies involved. Theres more and more demos and, of course, theres car introductions. We had a major phone introduction here. Smartphones are Getting Better designed, longer battery life, they are easier to use, some of them are even using keyboards, things like that. A lot of systems in technology are occurring, and robotics, of course. Thats one that will continue to grow every year, and it makes sense because robotics and smartphones and internet of things, as we get older, we need Technological Solutions for a lot of things, and thats one of the ways we will be able to take care of our parents and ourselves, frankly. Host weve spent a lot of time over in the robotics area of this convention. Its grown enormously. Of course, robotics will grow. Since i was a kid reading science fiction, this has been the future. Robotics are growing in not only what they can do, but theyre becoming more humanlike, if you will. And theyre going to learn what we like. Right now a robot, their single function, they were a little awkward and a bumpy. Kind of like an old navigational device. Theyre learning it better and better and know what we like. Host one of the other themes that weve found here is 5g, the advent of 5g. Guest certainly, the world is going to 5g. The u. S. Has to be part of that. That is very significant and important. 5g will give you 100 times the speed to download a movie or to watch something, and itll also give you close to zero latency , which is the gap between sending and receiving. 5gnk about how important will be to the self driving equation. Life or death matter, whether your car communicates with another car or sees a pedestrian in response, we need to reduce redundancy, and 5g is part of the solution. Its also part of the solution to get broadband to the rural parts of america. It wont be the most expensive to put into place, itll get a lot of information very quickly, and allow all americans to become part of the developed world, if you will. Host weve talked about several of products here, but wheres the policy and the regulation that goes to those products . Guest well, with 5g specifically we have to invest in infrastructure. We have to make sure the spectrums there, wehave to encourage economies, we have to finish the standardization process. With selfdriving cars, under the obama and trump administrations, its been the same forward momentum, the same vision of a world as secretary chao said at ces with where disabled and elderly people will be empowered and the rate of human errorcaused action will go down dramatically saving , thousands of lives and hundreds of thousands of injuries each year. Host sometimes when you come out to ces it looks like a car show in portions of it. Gary certainly, this year weve grown about 27 in the size of our show. Its about 300,000 square feet for cars. Vehicle technology as we politely say. And it is, the truth is the entire were not a car, were not selling cars to the public. It isnt this years model that we are pushing. We are pushing the possibilities of the future, in a sense. A lot of the infrastructure controls, qualcomm, intel, others are saying this is what we can do in the future, this is where we can go. So the entire ecosystem is here and, of course, the Car Companies themselves theyre seeing it, theyre also getting their own visibility, lookingat looking at their own concept cars. The Technology World is not a world where you can be a Single Company and do great things. You have to partner with other companies. Thats why we get the innovation leaders from around the world, because in four days they can see everyone they need to see that would take them several months otherwise to go around the world and meet with. Host gary shapiro, this is the first time weve seen you since the fccs Net Neutrality rollback. I want to get your view and the view of cta. Gary well, its a very complex, nuanced issue. I personally thought it was the right thing to do because the fcc change that happened just a couple years ago under the Obama Administration gave the fcc enormous powers it should not have. It should not have the power to regulate every device which hooks up to the internet including automobiles. The Automobile Companies andthe Technology Companies that make stuff were concerned about this because we have seen, depending who the Political Party is controlling the fcc, the things they could force on companies can totally block innovation and great development. I was part of the voluntary principals who worked so well for 18 years that we went around the fcc, convinced them to [inaudible] the broadband carriers agreed to provide and the companies that the internet uses, and even was happy with that. It worked great. And the truth is the different sides are not as far apart today. The republicans, democrats, and broadband providers, and broadband using companies, theye agree on Net Neutrality. Its the implementation thats wrong. And i think theres also agreement throughout america that what we really need is competition in broadband. In europe, theres a hundred Different Companies providing telecommunications. Their prices are a lot lower and in many cases, theres been so better than ours. Their speeds are better than ours. Why is it . Its competition. We dont have that here. We need it. Wifi provides alittle bit of, fiber, fios through verizon, cable provides some of it, but we need as much competition as possible. And then the whole issue becomes so much less important because if theres any harm, if they could change their company out, its not a problem. Or if there is, even without that competition what could happen today is the fcc could step in, and congress would step in immediately. With or without this decision, the internet is not going to go away. My problem ive had with it is both sides have exaggerated so badly whats going to happen and concerned consumers that we are in a position now of,where theres people that have such malicious intent toward the present chairman of the fcc that he, his kids are being bothered, theyre getting death threats. This is not american to go after a public official, who frankly, is a brilliant guy doing what he thinks is right with a lot of substance a nuance behind him and a lot of good people , disagreeing on both sides, but the fringes and extremes are a reflection of a very bad direction that i believe the country should not be going in. Host what does it take to put on a show like this . Gary we plan so far ahead, and we try to focus on trends that we see in the future, and we aggressively reach out to have our own partners so we can see where the technologys going because went do everything we cant do everything. We also block out space in las vegas for the next 20 years, we have a fulltime team of people who are aggressively around the world with, we want to guess the 60,000 people that come from outside the united states. Its important for the event, its important for the las vegas economy, its important for the companies that invest with Global Marketing budgets to be here and make it a great experience so the average person who comes here has over 32 meetings and is very, very efficient in what they do. Host ces takes over this city, and this is a city thats used to having a lot of people here. Guest las vegas has more hotel rooms, we use everything we possibly can. We are thrilled we just broke ground on a brand new Convention Center thats supposed to launch the ces 2020. We look very much forward to that. A stater of state of the art felt. Facility. Entertainment, work or force around las vegas, the airport is only 15 minute away from virtually every major hotel and Convention Center. This is the best in the world bar none. How host how many square feet does ces take up . Gary well, we count ourselves by the amount of space that exhibiters buy, and were about 2. 76 million net square feet, but generally that translate toss 5 million gross. You could have a team offive people trying to see the show in four days, and those five people even if they split up will not see the entire show. Our car the car show alone, portion alone is about half the size of vatican city. Gary shapiro, one host gary shapiro, one other thing you do out here is garys book club. What is that . Gary well, ive written a couple of books, and they became bestsellers things to thanks to ces, but i think that opportunity should be spread to other people as well. We identify a number ofauthors based on dozens that apply as having something really relevant to say. I just finished an interview with john grisham, the best selling author. He wrote a book called the tumor, butits about this new technology. They are looking at brain tumors, prostate cancer, and its outpatient basis, no chemo, no surgery, and its not a cureall, but its a cure a lot in a very unintrusive way where you can drive in yourself and drive out three hours later and your treatment is over. Host gary shapiro is president and ceo of the Consumer Technology association which owns and sponsors ces. Thanks for your time. Host now we want to introduce you to frank soki. Whats your title at intel and what do you do . Frank im the general manager for Virtual Reality. I focus on Virtual Reality and how we work with other parts of our organization including data center, the device side of things and [inaudible] host how big a component is v. R. At intel . Frank oh, my gosh, i see this as in 20 or transformation that is going to impact every element we have, cloud, you know, think about how immersive v. R. Is, how interactive its going to be, the data sets that have to give you an amazing amount of detail in this, and to be able its an amazing opportunity. When i say once in a 20year i equate this to when computers didnt have an interface, didnt touch everything. Virtual reality is going to transform everything. Host how is it developed . Frank think of it this way. Part of it is an evolution of what we have today. Ill use ad design as an example. You know, its a flat experience. Its 2d, you try to make 3d model. If you take that to the next level, hey, me and you as design engineers, now i can see that in Virtual Reality space, i can collaborate with you, spin it around, change things really in real time. This is the way people like to operate. Theres a physicality behind that and you are collaborating with 70 else. Somebody else. What were doing is taking v. R. And bringing that to the nextlevel. Thats one example of how i see it evolving. And then i like to say v. R. Is an element of giving us a better ability to control things. Were seeing that in two areas. One in sports, youre seeing the way you want to see it, not from a single camera angle, and were seeing it [inaudible] we work with Companies Like liberty or be real. Now the audience can participate in that game from any point they want. We see those technologies evolving. So Virtual Reality is giving us the ability to work in a way that is the way we want to work, which is the way weve been kind versus the way weve been kind of force to work. Host what components of vr are you working on . Frank we make the cpu which is very important on the host cpu, not a gpu. Frank no, ill go through. theres several pieces. Gpu is another element. And on the computing side, certainly the applications, but to create the virtual environment, you have to demonstrate the ability to do the physics oh, my goodness. Host keep going. Looks like we just had an electrical blowout here. Frank with all the electricity, im not surprised. Host keep going. our cameras are rolling. Graphic component to this, this plays a very important role. So weve been working very closely with microsoft so that our integrated graphics can have a Value Proposition in sort of the entrylevel space of vsm r. , and our next integration keep Getting Better and better and better. Then when we talk about what we are doing with storage and memory, taking those large data sets, because Virtual Reality has large data sets, and not losing detail, we have an example with the smithsonian institute, you can see arts, and its very detailed, and you want to go from exhibit to exhibit very quickly. The speed is important, but i want to zoom in on the details. Helps you to that. And then youve seen what weve done with htc and wireless technology. That was a pcbased technology that were bringing to the yard, single wired technology. To have three wires connected. I want one highspeed wire. Host is the cloud transformational when it comes vr . Are when it comes to frank yes, the cloud is transformational for almost every kind of workload you can think of. You cannot ignore the efficiencies of a large data set. Everything needs to be cloudenabled. But we always have this dissertation about, oh, so you dont need a powerful [inaudible] yeah, you do. Why do you need so many cores and graphics, because these workloads keep getting heavier and heavier, and we need a balance. We need tothink about edge. My hypothesis on v. R. Side of thing is it has tobe low latency. People get motion sick. Then you have to have a guaranteed quality of service that goes behind that. So between whats happening on the cloud and getting served up to devices like pcs or phones, and then i would submit you want to layer security on top of that because some of these are collaborative experiences where there is an enduser. So theres a security layer weve got to be on that. But cloud and edge are going to be very important. Then 5g, were bringing it up to the client endpoint, you need the bandwidth. Again, huge datasets. Host weve all seen the videos or weve all had the glasses on and seen v. R. Happening, but intel has a big tent down here. Guest yeah. Host whats in there . Thats a v. R. Tent, isnt it . A Virtual Reality tent . Franklin in a way. Were demonstrating autonomous driving, so we are thinking about what does v. R. Bring to autonomous driving . Think of your car as another environment youre going to be traveling in and out of. Let me hypothesize a future state for you on augmented and Virtual Reality. I think these ai and vr worlds are going to disappear. Were going to be wearing Something Like im wearing and im going to be able to do that from outside my building as i transition to a car that as a ton of computers, by the way. These are the kind of problems were thinking about and working on solving. What tease host, what is the difference between virtual and augmented reality . Frank oversimplistically, think of augmented as a see through experience. Im seeing you, and things are coming at me but im still , seeing the real world around me. V. R. I go into something. So im not seeing the real world, but even there are exceptions there. There are cameras being put on virtually, let glasses that let me avoid collision. So that is already happening, but generally thats how you see a. R. And , the er host how did you get into this business . Frank oh, my gosh. Virtual reality . I would say its a natural extension of some of my interests at intel. I like to focus on things that are on the cusp of happening, im always interested in whats evolving and what has a ton of potential. I like seeing Technology Come to bear, but i also like seeing the benefits that it brings, so i always look for opportunities like that. That journey has brought me through communications, workstation, data center. Gaming kind of brought me here, i concentrated on gaming and then the are v. R. Coming into its own finally even though its still nascent, and i love things with tons of potential that do more than just entertain. One, physicaln is theaters another one, being able to do surgery and have Better Outcomes where people dont have to have chemotherapy because of the fidelity with which you can do surgery, so that kind of thing. Host you have a Computer Science background . Franklin yeah. I have an electronics degree. I look for areas where im kind of pushing my limits but where intel is moving in. Even 36 years ago in telecommunications. Those were the opportunities i loved to look for. Host when you hire folks, do you look at gamers . Frank you know, we have absolutely do. So were looking for people with a diversity of experience, some gaming, some some esports, some more on the tech side of things. We look for Business Development people who understand tech but have a strong Business Development angle. Just the same way i described Virtual Reality, its not about one specific element. If you get into this business, it means you have to be able to understand gaming, tech, Business Opportunity marketing, you have to have business sense. You have to be a strong architect. Systems architect as well as an architect at the silicone level. It takes a lot of good experience to bring these things to fruition. Frank host frank soki of intel, thanks for your time. Frank thank you. i really appreciate it. Host now on the communicators, or we want to introduce you to a gentleman named derek orr. What do you do for a living . Im the division chief for the Research Division at the department of commerce in boulder, colorado. Host and this is the National Institute of standards and technology. Why are you here at the ces show . Guest so the division that im in charge of in boulder is focused on looking at the next generation of First Responder communications, and were really looking at what does Public Safety need in the future, our fire, our ems officials to take that next leap into taking advantage of Broadband Communications and what coming next for commercial users . So what were doing here is that we have a number ofopportunities to outreach to industry and academia through Grant Programs and prize challenges to involve them in solving Public Safety challenges in communications. We are here at ces because theres a number of companies with interesting concepts, interesting technologies that have no idea of how they might apply to Public Safetys needs, and we want to get them interested in helping solve the challenges and problems of our First Responders. Host all right. We just showed a little display you have here. Why do you have this equipment here . So this equipment really shows some of the challenges. People just dont understand the people just dont understand the challenges of communications for Public Safety when they have to put on these ensembles that are very difficult to work in. You know, a bombsuit, a day to dare fire ensemble. Think about wearing all of that equipment and trying to interact with a smartphone or a map and say, hey, youre going to love this new mapping technology, go into the building and use it. They cant see it because theres smoke, they cant touch it because they have gloves. So we have to figure out, what does the next generation responder need to have . Do they have Voice Communications with the system without having to touch anything . Is there feedback within their suit . Theres a lot ofcompanies around ces addressing these in different ways for commercial purposes. We want to bring those ideas and bring those experts in and address it for Public Safety. Host what kind of interactions have you had this year . Ive been doing this for 15 years. This is our second year to have a booth at ces. My third year to be at ces, but ive been doing this job for 15 years. This is the best interaction with companies we would interactionver have with that i have ever had. Its been phenomenal. Its almost been nonstop. Yesterday i almost lost my voice because we had so many people to talk to. Its been fantastic. Host whats one idea thats come out of this ces or others . Technology . Guest i would say one of the most important things that i really walked away from, and it was three years ago, it was really that year where Virtual Reality, you know, really jumped off the shelves of future tech and became a commercial product that people could buy. And i walked away from ces, and i was driving home from the airport, and i literally thought how can we use Virtual Reality to create a new test environment for Public Safety in which we can really envision future devices and heads up displays without them having to exist. So on the other side of the booth we have a prototype of host walk us over there. Guest yeah, sure. A Virtual Reality system where we are going to recreate realistic Public Safety scenarios, have tasks to be performed and then with those, giving Public Safety the ability to go into those environments, perform those task and be able to overlay all kinds of ideas for user interfaces, maps, biometrics, and understand which of those things actually allow them to do those tasks better. And we can measure that. And then industry can use those platforms to decide what tomake to make and decide which things are actually going to work better and then go, you know, get money to do those things. Host lets see it. Guest yeah. Hey, guys, can somebody, can somebody do this . So theyre going to put on the gear, and what youre going to see is we built this Burning Mountain lodge. Host now, whats he putting on . This is standard vr gear. We really want to make this accessible to researchers and industry across country. We dont want to create a platform that nobody else can buy. So were using off the shelf equipment so whatever we can do can be easily accessed by industry and academia. Host whats he going to do . Were really giving people the ability to walk in and see what it would be like to conceive of having a burning building. Hes going to walk into the room where theres smoke, and then hes going to be able to put out a fire with a fire hose and what were trying to do is just show people proof of concept. But what we have done is, one, we Just Announced several months ago a Grant Program in which were giving out up to 5 million to academia and industry to create a prototype of this system that we can understand how it would apply. Then we have an active prize challenge in which we have an active prize challenge open right now in which were asking people to use a platform like in that were going to provide you and overlay on top of it some futuristic looking headsup display for navigating inside a building, and the winners will win money. So this literally, this idea came from being at ces three years ago. Host thank you very much for your time. You bet. Thank you. I appreciate it. So one of the companies displaying their wares here is codec, an iconic american company. Is jeffhat company clark. Mr. Clark, what is codec today . A vibrant Public Employee company with 6000 employees and 1. 5 billion of revenue. If you saw star wars or any of the other major movies, any james bond movies, all still shot on kodak film. We have the last Motion Picture film factory in the world. Here we arerinting, at the Consumer Electronics show because we also sell to consumers. Host what are some new products . Guest the three 360 camera. Kodak has also gone back into instant cameras. Today we have the kodak sureshot and other cameras available, that you can print, take a picture and print it. Host now, who would use the 360 camera . We have one at cspan. Guest it is used in real estate, if you are going to show your home, 360 view. It is used for action, many people use it when they go out youction rides, or when want a broader view of the area. Host tell us about kodaks 360 degree camera. Guest basically, we have been trying to create a new image, a 360 image, so now we have several generations of products to create 360 video. Here at the show, we are showing a new concept, not only can we create a 360 image, we have two lenses, on either side, so it is recording all the video from all sides, all angles. Host these are each 180. Guest exactly. Internally, the software and hardware will stitch those images together, creating a rectangular file format, a regular video compatible with things like facebook and youtube. So any image you record, photography and video, you can upload and share with your friends, and it is an interactive image, so you can pan left or right and you are given a Virtual Reality. Host you can open this up, close it . You have two cameras. Guest this is kind of interesting. Both lenses are 190 degree, so when you create a flat image like this, we can use a stereoscopic to create a 3d version of that image. So its something we see with Virtual Reality, augmented reality, that the future, starting to look at creating that real depth of perception image. We can create not only 360 video, but also a 3d video. Host this is just a camera, not video necessarily . Guest it is both. Primarily a video camera, but it also takes still pictures as well. Host what is this one . Guest more for industrial use. Host heavier. Guest if you look at it, we have three lenses, to get a little Higher Quality image, higher resolution. In this case, where we have a 4k image, this would be an 8k image. When you look at applications f on360, if you have been restaurants, sometimes now real estates become a very popular, you want to tour a home, you can do it in 3d, we would use a product like this to create is higher frame rates and higher, you know, pixel density. Host is this the type of thing that Mapping Services use when they map . Guest kind of. If you have ever seen the google car that drives around with the big bulb on top, it is more of a miniature version of that. Where you are actually recording all video from all sides at a high resolution, enough for production that you can then share and create an interactive host that camera as well is video and still . Guest correct. Host does it have audio . Guest they both do have audio. And were still working on some of the pieces, where you could potentially plugin an external audio. On the 360 side, they are working with spatial audio, so if you have a 4channel audio, as you pan left and right, the audio will turn with you. Host forgive me if i am simplistic about this, but how advanced is that technology . It is just a camera and audio, isnt it . Guest if you look at the lens, and stuff, we are bending the light from all directions. The difference from other cameras, we have a sensor, two sensors, and you have to merge those together. The complexity of technology in the cameras is the stitching software. If you think of a panorama picture, how you used to take images from all different angles and then you would wind them up and stitch them together, now we are doing it with video, with very high speed, high bit rate frame rate. So in order to do that, it takes a lot of processing power, a lot of memory. Host is this a competitive market for the 360 cameras . Guest you saw at the show, theres a bunch of companies trying to get out there for us, we have three generations of 360 products on the market now, and this is kind of introducing this for the future. So we have been investing in the software and the hardware, for the future of 360. Host do you work for kodak . What is your relationship . Guest we are a subsidiary. J. K. Imaging. Lobeicense for all the g digital cameras and video cameras for kodak. We are a Technology Company developing new technology for future video, but we also support all the legacy kodak digital cameras. Host are these on the market . How much would they sell for . Guest these are not yet available. That haveept products been in development. We do have two other products on the market. Host which ones . Guest these will probably be a consumer model here. Probably a 500, 600 range, probably still several months out. And this will be more of a prosumer model, 1500. It depends on Market Conditions when we launch the product. The other models, we have the orbit, a consumer model. This one has internal stitching, so that we have the same concept where we have two different lenses, and then it stitches internally. This one is 500 and is available today. We just started shipping two or three months ago. It also has another feature, where this lens, we can change modes so you can do 360 degree recording, but if you want to just do a flat 4k video, you can use the front lens, 155degree lens, a wideangle flat video like an action camera video camera. Ofs one, our kind professional model we have been shipping for the last year. You can see we have two cameras here. This one requires a little more work, because you have to download the file, and we do external stitching. So the professionals like that product because they are in control. Not just a standard, you know, setting, as far as light and stitching and overlap. So they use highend, professional software to stitch the videos together and create it. We see a lot much, of opportunity in 360 still. A lot of people thought the market was going to take off because of, Virtual Reality augmented reality, that reality behind it, the technology is catching up. Host you have been with kodak for a couple years. Guest three and a half years. Host kodak used to be in every american home. Is there a lament that it is not anymore . Guest i think kodak has an incredible brand. 8, George Eastman created a Company Based on bringing photography to the masses, and we all grew up with that. Kodak still has that love, that trust, and we are bringing it back with photography products, but also with some new things. For the first time in 30 years, kodak is coming out with a new movie camera, a new super 8 camera. You can see that at ces. Brings peoplee back to what we are calling the analog renaissance. There is so much digital fatigue going on. So much time on our phones. The differentiation is good. We think film and analog is what people will migrate toward. Host another Communications Device you are advertising out here, a new antenna . Guest yes. Host what is that . Guest Research Labs are still in integral part of the company, and we have been able to create create, but print. We have a display where we can print, an that has applications for the homed, but most interestingly has applications for the car. From the car perspective, today in the back to get radio or cell coverage, and now we have multiple antennas in a car that can give better coverage and eventually be a critical part of the driverless car. Host your background is a Technology Background . Guest i am an economics undergrad, but i worked for Technology Companies my whole career, compaq, hewlettpackard, many others. I am definitely from the technical side of this. Host so what is your vision from kodak in the next five to 10 years . Guest kodak will be what it has been pretty much for the last 10 years. Pretty good. A company where we make products that are easy to use. You push the button, we do the rest. Ew strive to that we strive to that everyday. We strive for easier products. Host one of Donald Trumps goals is to bring manufacturing back to the u. S. Is that feasible . Guest it is for kodak, and i believe it is for america. Kodak is in rochester, new york. We still manufacture film, ink, toner, and that it chemicals, printers thatty our manufacturers usually manufacture competitors usually manufacture overseas. Believe intally manufacturing as a critical part of the codec process. Host what are you hearing from attendees here . Pretty excited about everything happening. All the innovation. Ew have one of the we have one of the fastest drones in the show, which came in fourth in the drone race, a kodak drone with of course an amazing camera. We found people who came in looking for a gadget but loved the antenna. Sometimes you are looking for a drone and he finds manaus. Host the ceo and you find something else. Host the ceo of kodak. Thank you. [indistinct conversation] Governor Rick Snyder of michigan, what are you doing at ces . Governor snyder great place to be here if you are from michigan. There is a convergence in our world and our society. The Automotive Industry and the i. T. Industry are converging into the mobility industry. Connected vehicles, all these wonderful things going on, and michigan is at the center of that. Showplacehow is is a what the show is is a showplace for the entire supply chain for both those worlds coming together to meet. An important opportunity for me to be here to talk about michigans role in all that and make new connections and relationships. Host there are signs when you walk around, it looks like a conference. Governor snyder that is relatively recent. The rate of increase is compelling and exciting. This will transform our society in some anyways. The autonomous, smart vehicle, smart infrastructure, but it will also provide challenges. We need to be smart about that. I do michigans view michigans role as, let these companies compete, and lets create the best environment for this to happen, where we understand the positives and negatives. Host what has the connected, mobile world done for the michigan economy . Guest a lot of great job creation, but lets talk about the longterm benefits of autonomous and connected vehicles. They like to talk about the technology. Three major areas. First about safety. Accidents are due to human error. Autonomous connected vehicles can save lives. The second is opportunity. If you think about how many people have disabilities, other challenges in their life, an economic disadvantage where they dont have access to transportation other than buses or something. This will help open up that world to a lot of people to get job training, work, create new economic opportunity, which is fabulous. And the third one, efficiency, especially with infrastructure. Not just about vehicles, but making smart highways, highways that can communicate with these vehicles. We need to invest more in our infrastructure in this country, but if we can do it in a way thats not just all adding more but usingor lanes, what we have smarter and better, thats a huge savings for all of us. It is those three major areas. Host when you talk about smarter roads, infrastructure, here at the communicators we have visited ann arbor. Are time is vehicles going to leap beyond that . You will need both. The connections through the infrastructure will help the Autonomous Vehicles get through a transitional stage. One of the challenges you have right now, there wont be that many vehicles that are atomically connected, and they will have their highest value when the road is full of them and they can talk to one another. There will be the interim phase, where it is important they can talk to infrastructure and back and forth. One pilot we are doing in michigan, we did a pilot with 3m about Construction Zones. We picked a Construction Zone area where 3m embedded an infrared, various barcodes and signs that a vehicle can read to tell them it is a Construction Zone, so we have the human piece, but also so the camera can register and the vehicle can understand a Construction Zone environment, look at lane markings, many things, in a context you would never believe possible. So these are the kinds of infrastructure dialogues that i think and be important. Host lets go back to technology and michigan. Not always what people think of when they think of technology . Guest what part of history are you looking at . Because i like to remind people, if you go back to the early 1900s, we were not just the auto center of the world, we were the Innovation Center of the world. Autos, cereal, furniture, chemicals we were the Entrepreneurial Center of the world. We created the modern corporation there. We were so successful that we sort of lost that entrepreneurial spirit. The good thing is, over the last few years we have gotten it back. We are the comeback state in this nation, and now we are not only back to a top 10 state, but we are looking forward to embrace mobility and lead our world in how to adopt them in a responsible way. Host is the michigan workforce, the educational work being done . Are they prepared for this new world . Guest we have made huge progress. It is a work in progress, though. It is not done yet. There is more to do. But we are leaving the country in that, and it is about competencybased learning, learning Information Technology skills. If you talk to employers around the country, they will take the lack of professional trades, Skilled Trades people, tool and die people, robotics people, Industrial Automation people. We are leading in those programs. But theres so many great opportunities out there that we still need to educate parents and young people about, people looking for that next career. In our society and this country, we sort of told everyone they should get a fouryear degree. That wasnt a smart thing. We sort of broke our system. We are reestablishing a smarter, better way than we had in the past in michigan, and that will be a role model for the country. Host governor, you have a Technology Background, dont you . Guest i am very proud of that, a proud nerd. [laughter] host what is that background . Guest i helped run Gateway Computers in the 1990s, and then i did Venture Capital in microtechnology and nanotechnology before i was governor. The part i would share with you, it is not just the technology, but how does that benefit people . One word of caution i would give andle, there are challenges downsides to this transition we also need to be responsible about. An illustration, if you bring in Autonomous Vehicles, wonderful new technologies, what can happen with Industries Like truck driving, delivery drivers . So we need to be proactive about , how do we do retraining, work towards the future and not make this a crisis for people in their careers. We are responsible to say, here are the huge benefits, here are some challenges and problem opportunities. And lets address both in a smart way. Host michigan, detroit, have bid for amazon hq. Why should jeff bezos tuesday tried . Choose detroit . Guest it is the comeback city of the nation, the most famous place for young people around the world. Young people from around the world are coming there now. Companies like amazon, google have set up operations in detroit. These are exciting things going on. That cool,at magnet, exciting place that is coming back, so i think it is a wonderful place to put a headquarters. Dont you want to be on the forefront of the next wave of the future and build on that . The other thing, we have a unique attribute. We did a partnership between detroit and windsor, and that will create a great opportunity. We can leverage the best of both countries, how to find the best people, build the best base, and that is unique. Host and more trade goes across the ambassador bridge than anywhere in the world. Guest the biggest commercial crossing in the country. We will build the new gordie howe bridge that will make it even easier to get across the countries. Host have you found silicon valleys are reaching out to your Office Silicon Valley companies are reaching out to your office about relocating . Guest it is about partnership. They will not be one company guiding this whole field. Many of these are collaborations of traditional, a Vehicle Company with a Technology Company, companies coming together. It is about this whole ecosystem being formed. We are leading the world in terms of activity, more activity in michigan than anywhere else. The valleys got a lot of great things. My view, i dont want michigan versus the valley. Why dont we win together, and help all our country and society throughout the world do better by promoting a responsible partnership . Host in your time here at ces, what are you hoping to see . Guest hoping to see a lot of cool things in terms of the new technology and ideas, but it is really a chance to tell the michigan story. I am on multiple panels talking about, what does mobility mean . It is new. Butlked about the benefits, ar also what are the responsibilities . I want to listen to people and learn from them about the barriers, the constraints, the challenges, and can we create an even better environment in michigan to be that role model for faster and better adoption . Host rick snyder is the second term governor of michigan. Thank you for your time. Guest great to be with you. Thanks, peter. That wraps up this weeks communicators from the Consumer Electronics show in las vegas. We will be back with more next week. 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