I work here at powerhouse arena. I want to thank you all for being here tonight. For the launch of on the clock by emily guendelsberger. I didnt say that right. Please give her a round of applause. Sorry. Give her a round of applause. Wed also like to welcome Jessica Bruder who will be joining emily up here on the stage in the chair. Powerhouses and independent bookstore so events like this help us stay here and lets say changing neighborhood so i encourage everyone to buy a book if you dont have one and emily will be happy to sign them later tonight we are going to hear a reading from the look, conversation, some q a. For ring her up what they read some bios. Emily guendelsberger worked at Philadelphia City paper, the onion, ap Club Philadelphia we we and the Philadelphia Daily News and contributed to the Philadelphia InquirerWashington Post political magazine and Jessica Bruder is the author of she has written for harpers magazine, the near times, the Washington Post and she also teaches at Columbia School for journalism. Give them a round of applause. [applause] i know there are a couple of people who mentioned they were here because they heard dan denvers podcast. I have known dan denver for 10 years and he still gets my name wrong on the podcast and do not feel bad about that. Im going to start with a reading, brief reading and thank you guys for putting up with a broken ac. Its nobodys fault but i appreciate your being here with us. This one is from amazon. How many people have read this book or know what its about . Just making sure. When my alarm goes off for my second full day its the worse my body is felt in my entire life but im not unfamiliar with pain. As a kid i went to use a complicated corrective surgeries on my legs followed by nasty physical therapy. I broke bones, i had migraines. Playing brechtian college i was matched up with you and the woman named rhonda the tank. This is worse. Feels like ive been hit by a garbage truck. Everything hurts. My feet are the worse for my back shoulders arms and neck feel terrible too. My hips and knees and thighs. My right wrist hand and finger from operating the scanner gun. My right elbow aches from poor wing opened hundreds of doors and i have a bug throbbing headache. I force myself to swing my legs over the side of the bed. The carpet feels like its made out of night but i force myself to limp off to the shower. Even before it made coffee i swallow a double dose of bad villain toss about all in my purse for later. The full phone and said i worked in ipod sales eye candy all day and not even bothering to track when my last day was pretty dont talk to anyone a break or lunch for them to tire. I had found and i feel generally dull. By the end of my shift im almost staggering from standing on my feet and trying to lean my weight on my cart as i push it through the next morning i wake up feeling even worse. The day goes by in a blur pain and exhaustion but i do remember checking my counter that i snuck in with morbid curiosity to find it only recorded seven miles. I am positive that the step counter is wrong. Maybe its not swinging back and forth because my answer pushing the cart . Whatever. I fall asleep in my clothing again. The next morning i somehow wake up feeling even worse. I make it through lunch but an hour later stabbing pain in my feet have spread up to my legs and hips. Every time the scanner has me squat down to get something from the lower drawer its harder to force myself back up to standing. Finally i do a full spot to retrieve an item from a bottom drawer. Stand up i order my legs for the 100th time today but its hung up on my brain. Stand up you idiot my brain screams as i hobbled backwards to a sitting position but its not happening. I will rub my feet while im down here but they start to take up issues and slightly horrified to find my feet are and tying them feel sinfully get to the simple part is reinforced by my scanner which notified me that i had zero seconds remaining to check my next item. Reaching that had to drop horrible thing on my card i tried to look at my horrible looking fee. How many minutes can i get away with before an algorithm alerts the manager . It can take 15 minutes to get to the bathroom and back if i keep it under 15 minutes maybe theyll think its a bathroom break or that desperately want to leave the soy dipping retrospect i realize the scan gun would have given me away. I reach for the little bottle that fell in my sweatshirt pocket and find them somehow down to my last two. How did that happen . To consider taking one now and saving that for later but if i cared about the future and lay wouldnt be giving her teachers domick problems with major doses of ibuprofen. I release my shoes as tightly as they can to proceed in zombielike shamble until the next stop. Of course the last two will wear off with rare stuff for my shift. The stabbing pain in my feet starts up again but eventually have to get something from the bottom shelf and again find that i cant get back up. Get up you idiot ayala myself alarmed. Dont end up like ryan. Part of getting fired is awful. The thought of getting fired in trying to start the project all over again next year is awful. The thought of going three more hours without something for the pain is awful. I sit on the floor waiting my awful options and to my shock i ask a start to cry. Crying on the job is a common theme for amazon work years regardless of gender. Again i so wish i had room for all the bunk are stories i have read and heard but here is one example. Quote i work for company defeated thanksgiving meant every amazon employee on the shift. Each ship has three or four groups and there are at least two people from each group who will be sobbing during their entire lunch break. Amazon axis of this is nothing out of the norm. What are you doing . I desperately tried to put together but the further shame of crying in public makes things worse. Nobody walks by bill. Thats one upside of the isolation nobody can detect you crying on the floor. Clear whatever algorithm plots the warehouses brilliantly engineered mentally complicated thing keeps people from getting within speaking distance to each other. Its a very lonely place. People pushing carts in the distance but i rarely get close enough to know the human being to say hello much less chappie keeping us is that makes logistical sense because they i also are so narrow. When im sent over to learn pack in the workstations are set up catty corner from each other so they wont talk. Im much more productive than a job where i was able to talk to people and not just as a journalist either. None of my service jobs was anywhere near this isolating. Getting up to speed and the agony of a feet have kept my mind occupied so far but i can tell boredom and loneliness are going to be something, whats the word . A problem. A dig problem. What was i thinking about again . K. I say to myself beginning to panic, okay . What am i going to do . That i remember the vending machine. Supposedly these are free with the swipe of your i. D. Badge which is good as we are allowed to bring her wallet inside. See another vending machines that the only one im positive i can find is in the stand up area a fiveminute walk from her and sitting. Get up, get up get up i yelled myself treats attract itself to my feet wincing towards where i hope is the staircase to the ground floor but when i finally arrive at the vending machine it doesnt recognize my badge. Equipped by four hurt against the glass and despair staring at the rosa foil packets. So close, so far. A woman notices me being pathetic and comes over. Let me guess its her first week she says in her kentucky drawl. She was white and middleaged with a blue bag and the air of management. I tell her its my third day of training she grimaces. Yeah while the second day is worse in the first and the earth rests on the second but i promise this is bad is the gift gifts. If you make it through the first two weeks it gets easier, it really does. She looks generally sympathetic. As the machine now working with your batch . It should. Use my i. D. And she tries to swipe riders up with the same result. She tries a few more times at various speeds and i asked about the vending machines which are apparently knew. They put the men last year she says. There have been problems with the ibuprofen seeking zombies like me enough to this top foot traffic on the main concourse. Nearly all of them wanted overthecounter painkillers. No more traffic jams and workers get free drugs a short walk away. Win, win the right to ask the woman gets up and hansman back my badge. In the meantime what the meantime what do you want she asked swiping her on badge for me. I select ibuprofen and thank the woman from the depths of my soul pitch he smiled and thats the badge on her chest. Everyone with the blue batches right reward now and i dry swallow the pills. He really does get better. Use have to get used to it. Careful about overusing doshi warns as i start limping back towards the stairs to the third floor. I have to take for to give the effect now. If this were completely acrid representation the next 40 pages with the entirely complaining that constant pain walking between 1013 and 16 mouse per day being too tired to anyone being a lot of mcdonalds never seen the sun in passing out the minute i get home from work. Im so exhausted my husband leaves a ton of weeks worth of voicemails. The only time i can talk is after i get off of work to do i feel bad about it i lack the energy and it feels like just another task. My husband is a logical thinker. I receded the hell out of those that fill. But he is wrong. The reason i dont fight a lot especially about stuff like this as we usually talk to do things but the damsel tired and too exhausted to drill down and explained to me can understand what im thinking. Instead i present that he wont take my word. If i had the energy i would but since i dont buy gives a limpid later in the day off i apologize imposed a the situation to them as a multiple choice question. Question your warehouse workers work 11. 5 hour shifts in order to make rates a significant number then take overthecounter painkillers and need regular backup of the medical office. Do you a peel back the right . Clearly workers or their physical limit. B makeshift shorter c increase the number of duration of breaks d increased staffing at the Nurses Office e installed vending machines to dispense painkillers more efficiently . What kind of starts with e but thats how amazon is. After just one week its obvious how i hear ambulance seemed like a clever and Innovative Solution for somebody. [applause] one thing that i wanted to start with i guess is the initial title of this book was on the clock or in the weeds rather and i ended up changing it on the clock which was a good idea because the whole idea was there were two definitions and they are that theres not that much overlap between the definitions. What is your primary definition . Could i jump in quickly . I went undercover at a we to had free advil. It wasnt at fl because it was all generic again saving money and i got so much of it because we didnt have to scan our badges that i still have little foil packets. I dont think they are brought any with me tonight. All i have is my memorial of the i. D. Badge but i really wish i had thought to take some of those home. I collected a lot of stuff. We were talking earlier and in the weeds and know the intro of the book with the working title of the book and i love the way you use it but when i think of in the weeds is either the time i got fleas because i spent too much time in the weeds and i literally got fleas or got got fleas or its when im being a digressive writer and my editor has to pull me out of the weeds to get me back on track but now i know others from reading the book. How many people have acted definition . The primary definition . The definition that i learned first which is the one that studies my primary definition ive learned being an ice cream scoop or the waitresses there would be like get out of my way. And the weeds when it comes to service work especially in a Restaurant Industry means you are slammed. You have too much work to do that you cannot keep up with and youre trying to keep up. How many people have that definition . So, a lot of people i found to have one definition are actually not super aware of the other definition which surprised me a lot because when i made the sort of transition from service work into journalism i would sort of go like when someone would ask if i wanted to go for smoke and i had too much to go i would say i was in the weeds. People would be confused so eventually wanted to fit in so i switch to im slammed, have too much to do. I found it very interesting the way this phrase means two Different Things to different classes of people and i have found it sort of the central metaphor of the book in that there are similar misunderstandings between class of what a good job is afoot good benefits are and what stresses, avoid exhaustion is and so there is this fundamental disconnect by people who are able to get in the public sphere were mostly on that richer more whitecollar end of things talk about what work stress means to them and what a good job is and what a bad job is and what hard work is they are basically speaking an entirely different language from Service Workers and i dont think really either side realizes that so this book, i wrote this book as an attempt to bridge that gap to both let the people who do have power in this country who probably a lot of them have not ever held a service job to let them know that service work today is much harder than it used to be and its kind of like chronically stressful which we will get into it a little bit. I also rode wrote it was for people in service jobs but one of the things i didnt realize was that a lot of those people have never had a job where the break wasnt 30 minutes time that the second and expected to be protected for every single second they are on the clock and where they are treated like robots. It is so much more stressful than any other whitecollar job ive ever had in my life. I dont think people realize that so thats what im attempting to do this book. You went undercover in three different places. It took three different jobs and wrote about it. You were at amazon at a call center, converge converges and you were at mcdonalds in san francisco. You did to try to do. When we were talking just before coming here we were talking about how sometimes even on the job we both encountered people often from an older generation baby boomers were a bit older. You are younger than me, i am 41 but people who are a few steps ahead of those of us and sometimes even though you watch these people and in my case i was writing about primarily retirement age people and a lot of them saw everything evaporate in 2008 weathering the Retirement Crisis and occlusion of that with lowwage jobs and they were on this treadmill where look like they could never return the same time when i would interview him they would say oh have you been talking to the whiners . It youve been talking to the people who cant just buck up because its hard work but im here to make an ounce days to make announced a slipping and they would were kind of shutdown and often they would tell you how they were financially screwed and how hard the job was that they had to make that distinction the fort talking to you. Im not a whiner. Im proud to be a worker but it also really. Doing counter then how did you do with a . All the time. It is really hard for people to complain about things that seem individually to be so small like one of the foundational parts of my life was reading Barbara Ehrenreichs nickel and dime when i was at that first ice cream scooping job i learned in the world learned what in the weeds meant that she did such an amazing job of demonstrating the way that individual grains of sand that are difficult to complain about on their own can just crush you. She made you feel it rather than showing you statistics about the visual grain of sand. Human beings are not equipped to deal with statistics. We thrive on stories. Thats how we pass information on since the dawn of time. Avoid paw prints that looked like this because that means theres a bear around or Something Like that. Statistics do not get across to people. Ive kind of given up on trying to do that and thats why did this in such a weird and experiential way because also people dont read things that are fun. Thats not their fault. Who wants to read something that isnt fun to read . Nobody. Bank countered this where one i came out with nomad lands a lot of people came out and said why are these people singing Les Miserables and storming the barricades . Why are we being asked to join the crusade and i said they are really tired. They are really tired. People are tired. They are in the weeds. When i said in the weeds i got slammed. They didnt know what. Basic way a lot of people were in the weeds and a lot of people were also at doing whatever they could psychologically too. Theres another Barbara Ehrenreich book about the side effects of positive psychology in a culture where have you seen the monty python movie the life of ryan . Does anybody know the look on the bright side or everything is awesome . We were singing that song earlier up here. Did you encounter what i like to call weaponized positive psychology which does play into the hands of a lot to companies because people say i should be grateful for this job and im not a complainer and im going to focus on the positive . Yes, definitely create a c. This recent trend with mindfulness and the amount of antidepressants people are on and all of this thinking positively but i kind of see that as the equivalent of those ibuprofen vending machines. They are assigned that what we are doing is kind of making us crazy and is not satisfying. This is what we can do. This is the drug we can take for this is the way we have to change ourselves to adapt to what is being asked of us instead of questioning what is being asked of us i guess. But certainly at amazon there were just banners all over the place trying to get people into the amazons. And there were a lot of people that i met there that were very enthusiastic about amazon but a banners all said work hard, have fun, make history. I dont know, i found them very postapocalypse, very weird and strange but lots of people did not. When it comes to the thing about how it differs from generation to generation i would say that probably older people, i know this was certainly true of my dad who is a very, very solid work ethic but i also didnt have to watch them go through 10 years of crippling depression that i do attribute to all the jobs he had. Part of why i wrote this book is im furious about what that did to him and the way that ideology that gets implanted in your mind it doesnt make any sense anymore because of the way things work differently now. It drives people crazy and it makes them feel terrible about themselves. I think that is morally wrong and its also very bad for the country in general or i think probably the world in general. We can see all these weird decks of chronic stress happening not just here but look at brexit. Look at the Yellow Jackets and macron that are happening in a lot of first world countries. They are all symptoms of the same thing which is society revising this isnt really working anymore. Now i have to build a new way of thinking about the world and find honestly. Thats a really scary way to go about your life because it makes you feel completely out of control. You dont know what the rules are in it makes you like you dont know what you have to do to deal the feed your family any more. Thats really bad for people rave. Given the option of adopting a nrda for yourself and on the one side im oppressed and there is no future here and this is hopeless for i am part of welding something and its hard but we are going to do it right its complicated because you dont want to deny People Agency and i respect people who are doing whatever they have to do to feed themselves and their families but by the same token its pretty another thing we are taught in about earlier that you tickle this scanner gun. Youre talking a little death about digital taylor is some just the automation and the treatment of a warehouse and logistics operation in the same way ford basically treated the factories in the early day. Can you talk a little bit about what your experience was like . When i, i did a lot of reading into the history of management which is not very interesting most of the time, i will tell you that right now. Some of the really interesting things i thought were about Frederick Taylor of philadelphian like myself. He was one of the first people who really started to try to apply it jacked up standards to what had been subject of work. The famous example is that he did a lot of work in steel mills in his early days and this was in the 1890s, right after the industrial revolution. That was an era so people before that in the pin factory described as the demonstration of how productive they can be to divide labor up and have one guy do one thing and one page another thing and have them do the same thing all day and produce hundreds more than they could otherwise. But there was no way of telling whether those guys were working as fast as they could because honestly time was a really wasted kind of thing until the 1890s because thats when you started getting stopwatches which were affordable enough to be used in things like industrial timing. They got their hands on a bunch of stopwatches which was in advance of the colacci which is very recent. He started paying the best workers on the line to go for an hour at the absolute top speed and he would follow their motions in time everything. He would put together the one best way of doing everything and he would pull people to that. It wasnt like it was fast as you possibly can like best workers do but he did it very or paternally. He called his method Scientific Management but having reviewed them it seems like he made up a lot of stuff. It was kind of silly. It just have a lot of numbers involved which again i think is something that is relatable to the modern era. Move the ford onto the Assembly Line and one of the interesting thing about both of these guys is both were complete freaks. They were both utter weirdos. Ford in a bad way he was like getting medals from the and stuff but taylor was kind of like a weird guy. He actually had his wife doing scientifically managed tasks at their home. He was just very strange but these guys, all of these people who come up with these ways to put the objective standards onto subjective stuff are the ones whose methods have been encoded into the computer businesses that run everything today. Even though ford, ford and taylor were extremely clear about seeing their lowlevel workers the ones who were tightening the same every day, something that i think most people find horrible. Doing the same thing in tightening the same a thousand times a day or more and that being it for eight hours of work went before a skilled worker is helping to assemble a car. Assembling stuff and building things is really satisfying. Ive done that sort of thing and it makes you feel good. There were a lot of people that i talk. Ive been in the habit of asking people what their best and worst jobs are wherever i go. People talk about their best jobs tend to be when they were making something and when they were building something, when they were leaving something behind rather than shipping things to amazon to amazon customers or doing something where there is no satisfaction to it. Taylor is demand for it is some amount of management things, its very very profitable to strip all the satisfaction and autonomy of jobs for you to make a lot of money doing that but it makes workers miserable. You dont even have to, thats not an assumption on my part you can tell him the turnover rates in these factories to went through taylors station and fords first beer when he brought the Assembly Line after he had Something Like a 600 turnover rate which is insane. Thats like most people stayed a week and they were like this is miserable. Im going somewhere else. So now the problem is when ford rolled out the Assembly Line they there were all these other factories in detroit that workers could go to. Now a lot of these computer businesses are widespread everywhere. There is no way to escape from them. There is no way for the whole free market capitalism idea this balance between workers, employers and consumers where they will all cave in their selfinterest and if they dont, like if you are treating your workers bad than the workers are going to quit and go somewhere else where its better. Thats the thing, there is nowhere thats better now. They are all pretty bad. We have gotten into this, i always forget how to pronounce this word, monopsony which is a condition where people who are buying peoples labor have all the power. Its interesting to look at peoples, like people at the wall street journal of people who are very into the idea of free market capitalism is the savior of the world and pulling millions out of poverty. They dont think minot then a is possible and they dont think its happening now but again that shows how out of touch people are that have jobs writing editorials for the wall street journal or the news york times or a lot of places. A lot of them do not know anyone who is worked in Amazon Warehouse other than as a source they are friends with them. They dont go out to dinner with them and hear them talk about their working day or they dont see them trying to crowd fund dental surgery or Something Like that. The way that we interact now makes the difficulties of modern work especially lowwage modern work in the invisible to those who have the power to change it. I hope this will help with that a little bit. Should we open the floor for questions . Questions . B questions. That we can get to whats your worst job . We have a third microphone. This will be difficult for me to articulate but im curious about what the reporting process was like for you because on the one hand you want to bring to light all the messed up stuff thats going on but you also want to be somewhat balanced and kind of to reflect a typical experience, not someone who is constantly pushing the envelope just to see how bad it can be but you also might be tempted to will i get suspended if this happens. How did you balance those two temptations or objectives . It was basically just talking to several hundred people honestly. Not several hundred but a few hundred people who had all of these jobs. And i do that for a lot of my writing in general but just to make sure i get the right general gist of how people feel about it. I tried to not just get people who are complaining about something on reddit because reddit tends to have a particular demographic so that will swing one way whereas what i really wanted to do and why went to work there in the first place was get a random sampling of people worded these places. I talk to a lot of people and they all did seem to share my view. I actually had a very interesting experience just a couple of hours ago. Did anybody see there was the word kerfuffle that probably only people who are possessed with amazon noticed like last week were some dude wrote some thing for the weird proto breitbart web site but in the uk called brouillette. Anyway somebody wrote something in first person not specifically might note that thereve been a couple of british once the come out. Utilizing amazon as much time for in the uk and amazon retweeted it and untreated and got a lot of flak for it. I actually got in touch with the guy and i was just like hey sorry that your live is publicly kind of weird right now. He just wrote me back this afternoon. It was really interesting because he is a guy in his 60s and he only works 25 hours a week so its a very asked different experience for him than it was for me. And to make it clear for people who didnt see it his general take was muckraking journalists and i do this and its not that bad so its kind of the whiner we talked about earlier. Forever one is having trouble with this and they are not pulling themselves up which is not something that can actually happen that they are just a quitter. He was addressing numbers and amazon unamplified it but in the middle of this, this person felt like the people speaking up for the workers. There were plenty of people that i talked to her were like this is fine but most of them hadnt been there very long. People dont stay there long because the races are bad is what i gathered when i was there. Maybe different now. But this is not designed to be a longterm job. I tend to take peoples opinions who have been there for only six months or a year. Its kind of like well but i dont know. It was just so interesting. I think it was just our work ethics or our idea of what work should be and what is too much to ask of a person were very different. And ive lost my train of thought im sorry. Did that get you . Any other questions . He said he liked the book. He said that because i have had injuries like leg surgery that i probably that i shouldnt have taken the job because i should have known that it would be that painful. Im going to write him back but the thing that was painful was the work, not my knee. It was not because im handicapped or anything. Anybody else . Can you tell us about somebody that you met that made an impact on you the you wanted to include in the book but couldnt . I really wish i could have included more of those kids in the amazon chapter. I dont know, they were very funny and they were very selfaware about what their situation was in the workforce. There were two actual embodiment of that ideal freemarket capitalism worker. They were aware of what the deal was so they would sneak around and eventually started taking a third break every dambisa 11. 5 hour shifts and they did that because they knew that amazon needed them too much to fire them. They acted in their selfinterest and what is interesting is we regard one side, we regard that as a moral and in the way we do not regard it as a moral who for companies of acting consumers best interest. Whenever you use rationality in the market tends to create bubbles of arbitrage. Thats what arbitrage is to define some irrationality in the market and stick a straw and it didnt everything out and then you have a lot of money essentially. I think that people have started recognizing, like very smart people who run these companies have started recognizing that the American Work ethic is irrational. Doesnt make sense. Does not encourage you to act in your selfinterested. It encourage you to sacrifice a lot of your life because you think its the right thing to do or because we have this work ethic that is really deep inside of us that hard work is fundamentally virtuous and a good thing. I think right now especially people have been extremely good at sticking all sorts of straws and all over the place and are turning to bubble try and honestly that is one of the reasons that everything is so crazy right now. There is a finite amount of good old American Work ethic that exists. Once that has all dried up i think people and people are ready to realize oh this is not rational. This isnt reasonable. Why would i work against my own selfinterest help accompany . For example when i was in mcdonalds i write about the time that i was going out on for eight and i ran into a homeless guy that was staring at customers in making a big mess by pulling stuff out of the trash and bring it on the ground. Yet this huge pile of trash. He got in the face of this sweet old lady and she wants tipped me a dollar for an ice cream cone. I would have done anything for that woman and thats irrational i was on my break and i was not being paid. I was sacrificing my unpaid minutes of break the only thing i was going to get to try to get this homeless man to stop making a mess for the janitor to clean up and to stop scaring the customers. And i did it. He screamed to my face and probably gave me the flu but i did it anyway because i felt it was the right thing to do. Again my dad raised me with this very American Work ethic and its taking me a very long time to start realizing that isnt always good and that did make me very depressed and crazy for a while because its really hard to succeed in this economy without constantly working and constantly hustling. We are not meant to do that as a species. We are a very funloving species. Generally for most of our history we didnt really do that much work. The nasty idea of what history was like. The modern idea of anthropology of what history was actually like more of like you spent probably five or six hours a day putting together enough to feed you until the next day and the rest of the time you slept and you had sex and ran around having fun and take care of the kids. It was a hard life but it was not a chronically stressful life. Theres a big difference between the two. Because we are a funloving species and we are neither going to have a nap or sex here this evening shelly get to your party game . Is there one more question . If you have time for it. Of course. I feel like in a lot of places you worked there people that are pro those businesses say the future of all those businesses that lower echelon of those jobs are automation. Lets not worry about how hellish it is an Amazon Warehouses. Lets not worry about you know the constant downward pressure on the wages of uber driver is because there will be selfdriving cars or whatever the timeline is. Did you talk about what with the people that were in those places about automation . Was there ever a moment when you were talking about what work would look like for them in the near to medium term or were they just kind of, with their focus on the shorter timeline than that . Thank you is definitely a shorter timeline than out. I found one of the effects of chronic stress and i get way more into this in the book but it is basically just makes you focus on the shortterm when youre chronically stressed instead of a longterm. I think people kind of new to me that amazon can rip place me the robots are going to do that. I dont think they expected to have that job for the longterm. I dont think most people especially younger people today expect to have their job for more than a few years. There is also this generalized misunderstanding about how automation works or how many jobs are going to be made up for , to make up for the automation. Essentially when i pitched this book a few years ago i pitched it, it was much more about automation and all of the publishers, it was like i dont really buy this. In the past there have been enough jobs by these new technologies to make up for the jobs that have been lost. The jobs that have been lost were all ones like people sitting at toll booth all day or whatever but the thing is about technology technology, theres this thing called moores law which is the amount of circuits that you can fit on the Circuit Board tends to double every year and a half or two years so that means that Technology Grows at an exponential pace whereas the jobs to make up for them only grow at a normal pace. Right now i think we are in this very weird. Period where it looks like like a flat line and it has been a flatline flat line but we are about to go straight up and i dont think that is very well recognized if you havent studied all of this stuff. Its a misconception we need to come to terms with. I just got retweeted by andrey gang and exposed to the gang gang. There were some interesting people and their thats the thing we need to be talking about although his basic income is kind of heartless and a bad way to go about it. Universal asic income is something we will really have to think about and they are somebody in the race bring it up regardless of how dump people btob at least on twitter. I dont mean to insult anyone in here. Are right, we have a bunch of responses appear on the wall. The first one going doortodoor raising money to close up our planet neighborhoods where plant employees lived or they had to raise 100 of my salary from donations received the my only options were baking strangers to clean their houses. I have heard so many Horror Stories that i honestly think thats one of the reasons there is no bench for the left is like people who are very into it and got completely burned out. Callcenter operator. Who is that . Worse than dishwasher, bus girl professional mouse rat killer. Plumbers assistant. Science. Being a Credit Collections person for Simon Schuster and having to call small independent bookstores to demand money. Thats a pretty good one. Wedding cake delivery. As a home nurse for an 89yearold my coworker left her shift early but they are client was prepping for a colin office to be. That might be the better than the sylvester the cat 1. Janitor at evangelical church. Backroom banking opening up deposit and making sure they are all the right way for the higher paid and a short order cook who chainsmoked while he cooked asked if i knew where to get crack. Thats pretty good too. Street campus or, short but sweet. That does seem like one of the most miserable jobs possible. Video logger at mtv sad face. Ihop waitress in the suburbs of houston harassed by the boss and mean baptists after church. Ive heard people after church can be the worst possible tippers. No food no bathroom break and you have to make tons of life or death decisions. They get a chance to rate my performance in the eye of the done what they think i should have it i will get a bad review even if you are still alive. Im thinking home nurse, definitely. I like the czech flipper and perp bigger. Czech flipper . Icon of like that one. 89yearold colonoscopy prep her. Our right we have a new champion who is that . I know who it was. Liz foley everybody. Congratulations, liz. Thank you everybody so much for coming out to hear emily. Tip your waitresses and come talk to m