To today of and a different great leaders of our country. House of representatives in congress. And had a phenomenal record of achievement and Economic Development and progress, he is one of the of the congress. About 20 years ago i was working to develop the idea of international and congressman was if you went to his office, on capitol hill, it was by Grand Central station. I would ask congressman if he would consider being chair. That we just created. He was so busy. I was too timid to ask. In washington. He said, joe, joe never missed a meeting of the international africanamerican as busy as he was. He was prepared. He taught history. He realized he could help us get to get those guying. Congressman, one thing that i always congressman house of representatives. 1970. Elected to the house of representatives. We all went to bed that night knowing that joe was house of representatives. And the elected. I never forget. Anything you like to share. Thank you very much. That im doing that. I think i have done that. Thank you so much for telling that story. Because there is a little to that story that. You were running for reelection. And during that time, would be designated chair of the delegation. And another africanamerican ran together. And we felt that you being elected and that we could be elected. Never forget. Radio and television. You decided that you might not lead the ticket. More beneficial to the state and to the for the two of us to get elected. I really believe that, to be able to accept the defeat experienced the way you were able to sacrifice your victory for herbert and me, thank you so much for that relationship. Ask that i join to chair in the committee. My wife of 58 years, i taking on responsibility. So she did not hesitate to tell me what she felt. She did admire and respect you a great deal. Thank you so much for having me here there thank you. She was wonderful person. And she is one of those people, that if you were in her company, you felt better, her goodness was really so inspirational. Congressman, we talk history. We back then. In late 60s, i guess. What did they teach, teach you about africanamerican history . Not much. Teaching in 1962. 3 years there. Teaching history. I did when i was teaching. In newspapers rather than textbook. Most of my fellow teachers thought back then, that i was going to get fired. I never got fired. I had a hard time keeping people out of my classrooms, i felt that history should be a part of the living in present to spring the students to history. We had priceless. What did i lets talk about. The newspapers and radios, talking about the not far from where they lived. I picked up a newspaper. Lets go over chapter 22 on cuba. And talk about the back ground for that, that is how i taught them. I have relationships with many of those students until this day. I was a student, teachers would tell us tests. When did this happen or what thes the date this that and the other. I hated that. When i started teaching my first day, i would tell my students, pulls out your pen and paper, write down two things. Those are only two years that i want you to remember. 1066. That to me were two big dates to remember, other than that, we talked about issues. And how they related to them in their daily lives. And congressman, to the young people. I remember the ambassador, of united states, one of your students, that just, the leaders they all were to the class. The impact you had on the kids. Was remarkable. Thank you. Ambassador to iceland. We were at the time. I came back. After being sworn in i got there. There was on the floor. That is where i stood. He said, as i was walking around, i looked to my right, standing there, he washe there, he told me, later, he would never have missed that. And he and dawson. Thats, right. They would all come. There would be sessions. There could be more to their lives. So that is the backdrop to the desert. A great vision he had still international africanamerican museum. International. Talks about how fits in internationaly. By the way, is now retired. That is what came out of the classes. One thing, we will get to, congressman, you lost the election, 1970, governor john west. Saw joes character and the way he would, to be the first director of the South Carolina commission and congressman governor west, and. Mack you ties, connection your businesses interest and other interests together. In South Carolina. Move forward is more together. O absolutely. Absolutely [inaudible] when i was asked what happened. I said, it looks like i didnt get enough votes. I was depressed. Then, thursday morning after thehe election [inaudible] that is right. And he calls, i spoke with him, he told him, call him. And we asked me. I did. He offered me a possess on his staff. He said to me at the time i turned it down, i said no. He said to me, if i had your talent, i would be more than you are. That is what started the relationship [inaudible] she said, john would be so proud of this. I want you to have this desk, he gave me the desk he had as governor, i sit behind that desk right now every time i go to my columbia office. All of the time, you never say the things that are on your mind. I talked about the results. I wouldnt be sitting here now if i had not gotten that call. I agree with that congressman. The question such important life lessons in that. You accept with grace and build for future. As a human being. Right now, both sides, clyburn because of his character and intellect and determination. Congressman. Subject to seem to me that the in my opinion, less easy for people to vote. Morere cumbersome than it needs to be. Different form but seemed it is unfortunate that any efforts we should make to believe we should make it easier, less troublesome for americans to vote. Rather than the obstacles. Right about that. I alluded we have to be very in this great country we have, i have said over and over again, it a great country. Our talents [inaudible] the foundation on which the greatness made. Is unfettered life. We of a more perfect union. That t is what it was about. That is what the act was about. To get to the point of bad timing. And most important thing about democracy would be to destroy the take us off that pursuit. And i think that it will destroy democracy that we have. People that look to this country for exam for a long time, that would [inaudible] the right to vote at some jurisdiction. It would be an anomaly. Thank you, i know we have questions. Do we have questions. Yes. Yeah. Openn it up. Yeah, reminder for you know any of students, really any of the guests if you want to put questions into the chat ill do my best to relay them on congressman, i wanted to take us back for a minute congressman to the 1960s, i think about you know the work that you did arounds w charleston hospital strike, and you think i think about you know that period of the time of such great upheaval, assassination of dr. King and bobby kennedy, could you make comparisons to our contemporary politics. You know to what are the comparisons between today and 1968, if they are appropriate. In 1968, at the time. I started teaches in 1962. In 1968, i was in charleston at the time, i was running neighborhood group. Y became director of commission u for farmworkers. That is where i really was at the time during the massacre. Citizen leading this from north charleston. What was going on then, i was very much involved with. How to vote. Lilia and i, then, i became at hospital strike, we had a workers strike. People dont remember that. They were leading the hospital strike. Then they asked me to get involved with the garbage workers, and negotiate. We had two things going on. We met every evening this keep things on course. That is why im concerned today you have to find ways to keep the communication foing, you stop talking, you are never getting. A lot of what you see today, i think, i believe that back then, people had open minds, they had broad shoulders, stepped up, to give us what we needed to grow. The 1970 election. After the so, there was joe riley. Run are for reelection [inaudible] lost the election. And i believe, the first africanamerican from governor staff, we came out winners. Any experience you had. It should never be a stepping stone [inaudible] one of your wonderful librarians has a question for you. Asks if you might say a little bit about the political damage that the slogan defund the police did in the recent elections, do you have any suggestions for a better framework for the urgent need for Police Reform movingie forward . I do, i have been writing about it and talking about it. I think, we need to reimagineck policing. I think there are times you know, if you are a lawyer, and you are [inaudible] i saw two lawyers in South Carolina, headlines, they were l disbarred. Because they did some things wrong. So, the same thing [inaudible] for 40 years, a Police Officer in camden. I thought he was honorable, we cannot allow to the battle. That is what will happen if we dont get that bad apple out. That is what we have to do. Seems all of a sudden. That is what a lot of it is. We have to have police. It is an honorable profession. To be in. We should not go so far as to the current state of affairs with black lives matter, what happened to 1960s. We were demonstrating [inaudible] a group of people came up with a slogan, burn baby burn. That under cut what we were doing, undermined the effort. I saw t t that. He said we needed to speak out. To expand and allow to kill the black lives matter movement. The movement we were in back in the 60s. Student movement. You never hear me call is civil rights movement. They were students [inaudible] these things i try to put things in perspective. Keep listening. And remember, that not to destroy the profession. Our good student and the president of the campus chapter of Young Democrats, active in the Young Democrats statewide, tyler mitchell, would like to ask you the during the events of previous year, what are the prospects that america could build a Stronger Foundation in the area of social equality . Iti think that possibilities are good. But thatng is a all of the time. Where there is a will, there is a way. We have to develop the will. I dont think that enough people have developed the will to do it so easy. It easy. The hard part is working together. And putting aside differences. I said a lot. I was born and raised in i came on, and we found out early in our marriage, our backgrounds were so different, we have to make significant adjustments, to have a successful marriage. I did the same thing. Everything that we dwe have to learn our different backgrounds and experiences and learn p from each other. You dont necessarily learn from people by shutting them up. You learn by listening to them. You get an atmosphere to solve problems by coming together. The prospects are go, we could keep people engaged on a personal level. That is the challenge. To be able to set aside, [inaudible] i listen to them, and i talk to them and and i their advice. As i have been standing here, i keep getting a it just so thrilling to see this wiseman, representing our country in congress. Representing us in South Carolina. But. Truth, justice. Knowledge, it is it so there is a choice. We see someone like and devoted his wife to this cause. About honesty. Andll injustice and justice. And integrity. Everyone will take away today, congressman thank you so much. For being with us. Marvelousng example you gave us. Public service. Thank you, sir. Thank you so much for having me. Do me a favor. That to me, and the bible is most documents that i have read. Order that book. King wrote in that book [inaudible] when we see injustice, we have to do this country. An example. We cannot allow any misfits to destroy the mantra. Thank you so much. And im not disrespecting him there thank you, sir. He wrote that most amazing letter. With newspapers. He was collecting. Message is powerful. With the knowledge. And did to make sure that thank you congressman clyburn. Thank you