so you did know there was a sexual assault involved? >> at the time i didn't know that. i've been in the middle east and not much access to information. i just assumed you were roughed up, and she was roughed up a little bit more. had i known it was a sexual assault, there's no laughing matter, especially for a man. there's no excuse for it. there's no defense, no matter what i saw or try to explain. i look like a jerk. >> but, again, it is hard to believe you didn't know it was a sexual assault. not only did you say that she was trying to outdo me or -- and that it would be funny if it happened to me, but you also linked to the cbs news statement, which clearly says it was a sexual assault. >> yeah, i should have read it. i just heard the word assault. no matter what i say, it doesn't sound good. an assault isn't justifiable either. i just assumed you were roughed up, she was roughed up a bit more and now the main stream