why do you think the prosecutors are so interested in papadopoulos if he's a nobody and a nothing? >> the answer is, of course, he's not a nobody or nothing. if you look at that court document filed, the statement of the offense that lays out the e-mails, it talks about, for example, he's communicating with the supervisor in the trump campaign, and there is reporting yesterday that that is sam clovis who is cochair of the trump campaign and nominated recently by the president to be the under secretary of agriculture. so if papadopoulos is communicating with somebody by e-mail with sam clovis and talking with him, you know, he can interpret those e-mails for mueller, and he can say, look, this is the context of my conversation with mr. clovis. here's what i meant and here's what i meant him to mean when he was e-mailing me, and so mueller