bipartisan work that's going on and right now over my shoulder in the united states senate as i think you know they're supposed to take up a very important banking bill that we look forward to negotiating. >> we're going to talk about that. the more that you guys do by working together down there, the men and women in d.c., the harder it is to just focus on all the reason you give us to criticize what's not going on down there. the tariffs first and then the banking bill. this is not conservative orthodoxy that you use tariffs -- >> not in the least. >> that you use a tariff as bait to a trade negotiation because of the fear of retaliation. do you believe the president will go through with this? and if he is seriously considering it, what is your message to him? >> well, i've already sent a message to the president. i haven't had a chance to talk to him directly about this. but the president has got to be very, very careful here. and if he follows through with it, and it appears that he does, i encourage him to be very surgical with it.