three other police officers still are facing both state charges and federal charges. the state charges have been put off until 2022. the federal kmcharges, we still don't have a trial date. they're going to be watching what happens closely, because they're not going to get as much time as derek chauvin but presumably they're going to get some percentage of the time he gets today. >> we're a little bit more than 15 minutes out from the start of procedures as they're scheduled today, of course, these can float a bit because of what's happening there in minneapolis. let's go to van jones. cnn senior legal analyst laura coates, and senior law enforcement analyst charles ramsey. laura, let me come first to you. your expectation of the time that chauvin will be sentenced with today. >> i think it will most certainly be more than 12 and a half years, and here's why. remember, there's another minneapolis police officer, now a former minneapolis police officer, mohamed noor, who shot his weapon out and killed a woman by the name of justine