house right now. go ahead. >> and he got a little worked up. i'm thinking in is going to be the plaza hotel all over again. he walked out of the room, 10 minutes later he was calm. he got a little upset. gets a little frantic, but i did not see any violence. >> geraldo: okay. also joining us casey and cooper lawrence of the new york radio personality, author of the cult of celebrity, is a clinical psychologist former actress. we welcome her onboard. do you think sheryl or doctor that he is hell bent on self-destruction or is he walking the most incredible tightrope you've ever seen any high profile person walk? >> geraldo, he's creating such a compelling narrative with all of the ingredients that makes for good television.