bachmann has continue to be the different person. she has got to focus on the anger over the debt deal and mobilize her position as a congressman. cane has to demonstrate why he is different paul has to demonstrate that his ideas being proven correct. >> with all due respect to congressman paul and herman cain they don't have a chance. all right? it's okay people like them and all of that they are not going to get the nomination. the three that have a chance are romney, perry, and bachmann. that's it. it looks like the stock market collapse helps romney and perry, they position themselves as successful executives in the business realm. >> yeah, but perry's arrival into the campaign throws a real threat at romney. >> bill: it does beings absolutely. >> job creation but, b, he can flank him to the right on social policy. >> bill: independents look like they are going for romney. new fox news polls says they are breaking for romney big.