cardinals will begin meeting on monday, this coming monday and it's one of their first orders of business will be to determine when the conclave starts. before the conclave starts they will have meetings what they call con congratulationses in which they are discussing the big issues of the church. but they are also informally getting together, having meals, talking to each other about one another, trying to find the right person for the job. now in these last few days it's been very quiet about the next pope. why? because just as when john paul ii was sick and dying nobody was talking about the next pope, but now we just saw the helicopter leave the vatican. that was pope benedict's way of saying, now i'm out of the picture, now you do your jobs. if you wer he were still in the vatican or behind the vatican walls in some other apartment that they would be a little bit cautious in talking about in straight talk what is needed for the church. that is about to begin. jon: the helicopter on its way