discretionary spending. and then go drill down on some of the entitlement and begin to pull it out. sean, i'll tell you what, when you look at the operational costs of all of these agencies, i don't care what the agency is. there is a lot of waste that is in there. a lot of fraud, a lot of abuse. and what we need is one person who -- it is their job to go dig down on that and work with us in congress to root it out. this is our shot. of really getting it done. this is our shot. >> sean: congressman perry, if you look at the interim period between his victory and inauguration on friday, there was a $9.7 trillion debt increased by the republican party? while back. that is as much debt as obama