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is -- >> that's a load question. i'm excited to have the rhetoric in there of let's take care of veterans, let's do this right. a little bit less defensive where the v.a. is, where it is in that. you know, for example, the veterans choice program, maybe the most loudly bragged about achievement, but really what are we doing there? we are paying the v.a. more money to pay someone else to do the job we are already paying them to do. if i take my veteran off and put my conservative hat on, my fiscal conservative heat on, this is a band-aid fix to a tourniquet problem. i look at it as just a campaign win, the effectiveness isn't there. oh, and by the way, the v.a. doesn't pay out very well. so, if you do go find a doctor under that program the chances of keeping them or getting them paid are pretty slim. there is a lot more still to do. i hate to be raining on the parade but see some effective and actual changes that make lives better. ainsley: katie, i want to ask you, u.s. marine corps veteran and vice president of operations at self-made.

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