dossier, that i read the dossier as it came in parts and pieces. >> you already told me that you read it, i want to know who corn and simpson are. >> and, sir, what i am telling you is that i have been directed i may not state the various places where the fbi -- >> i got that. i know what you are saying, did you ever communicate with david corn? >> no. >> did you ever communicate with glen simpson? >> no. >> did you ever communicate with nelly orr? >> no. >> did you ever communicate with bruce orr? >> yes. >> when? >> my recollection is between three, three, four possibly five times in the late 12061 early 2 -- in the late 2016, early 2017 time frame. >> what did you talk about. >> investigative matters that mr. orr was involved in. >> did you talk about the investigation that we're focused on here, agent struck? >> my direction from the fbi -- >> all right, all right. >> that i may not answer that question, sir.