>> well, they're close to being a lot of recall campaigns. the folks at the wisconsin democratic party are doing a great job raising money around this. in the very near future, more completions of the signature process will be announced. >> you're getting voters who were not moved in the actual -- the last regular election. they were not animated in that election. as forcefully as they are now. now that they've seen what the people who won that election chose to do once they took office. how can you get that same energy back when you needed it more, which is in that previous election before they get to see what these people end up doing when they get in office? >> right, well, look, i think there's a common thread between 2010 and this. and that is, that when -- party leaders of whatever side lead on
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