his own skin. he knows who he is, doesn't put on any pretenses. >> as his victory statement, he was like, i don't know anymore than you did about these things. president obama has his shortcomings, too. do we want an intellectual president? we got one in bush, sort of -- in clinton and obama. >> yeah. >> the country, i think, look, certainly responding to bush in 2008, if there is a bush rehabilitation effort, i think president obama helped the cause. >> ei'll tell you who didn't mae the cause, barbara. it reminded me of eisenhower,