because you're hon rorarhonorarn use the n-word. >> you and russell are not n-wording it up. >> no! he might be saying it to me, but i'm like, um. so this notion that because you're accepted in the black community, it's okay to use the n-word. this word is wrong. richie incognito said about martin is wrong. i would never, never use that word. it's a nasty word coming out of the mouth of a white person. and the notion that it's acceptable, i don't buy it. >> do you buy that locker room culture? because sometimes things are said in the intimacy of workplaces that sound kind of special if they are just taken out. is that what's going on here? >> i think there's two things going on here. one is, i've been saying this from the very beginning with all of this, as the nfl has been exposed and this culture has been exposed. there's a certain element of america learning how the sausage is made, right? we don't want to know how the sausage is made. we want our ugly, nasty,

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