huge, huge and growing portion of the food we eat. fda may look at food production plant once every five years. they just don't have the people power to do the work. >> one of your articles, you mentioned minnesota and oregon. they don't wait on the fda or usda. there are states that take measures that help protect us the consumers. >> yes, it's interesting in minnesota, i always say if an outbreak is linked in any way to minnesota, oregon, you're going to have a nationwide recall. they are really good at what they do. if it's in the southern tier states, you can forget it. they don't invest in surveillance and infrastructure which puts us all at risk. >> you certainly have interesting information on your website. a lot for us to chew on as long as it doesn't make us sick. >> so to speak. >> thank you. coming up -- >> no matter what path you