appalling. we're talking high seas and rain and clouds. it's going to be difficult but they are optimistic. >> all right, really a lot going on there out of australia. thank you, sarah james, we appreciate your being there for us. we're looking navy ships and sea hawk helicopters and subtracking vehicles from australia. but what's interesting actually is that the most important information may come from a tiny camera in space. we are going to look at the aerospace component of this search and in the end, it could be that that makes or breaks the difference in that. so for an in depth look and perspective from somebody who actually has dealt with aerospace technology in the flesh, more than most ever did, we're going to turn to live on pt phone commander chris hadfield, retired astronaut and former space station commander. >> i'm here and it's my pleasure

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