there was no real solution to it. so you look at events like this. this is normal and routine. it's only been really in more recent years that we've seen the heightened security post 9/11 even around capitol hill. so i'm not surprised that they were in a gathering like this and it's quite normal but also points to the question about how do we essentially provide security to all of these elected leaders everywhere they go against what is an unimaginable set of threats that could occur to them at any given moment. >> as a reminder, gabby giffords, who in 2011 along with 18 others was shot in a shopping plaza parking lot at an event, who since then has become a massive advocate speaking about gun control. what's interesting -- we're going to listen in. more lawmakers returning to d.c. >> i assume he's in surgery right now. but he was aware of where he was and what was going on, so -- >> and so you actually watched him get shot? >> i saw that he was down and