documents and then called person a and discussed in russian that criminal charges might be brown against a former ukrainian justice minister against law firm a and against paul manafort. and the special counsel's office also say that van der zwaan may recordings of these phone calls about this whitewash report on the jailing, about criminal charges being brought about manafort and again his own law firm. he was recording these calls. we don't know why the special counsel's office knows that but apparently they know that. they know about his notes on his calls, they know about his recordings of his calls, about the discussions that led to the calls, using e-mails and encrypted apps to avoid records, charged with making materially false, fictitious and fraudul t