>> do you think he won't get a real sentence? >> he will get a real sentence only after he provides substantial assistance. >> why no mob charges? >> why -- what was that? >> why no charges related to the mob? >> well, that could be a long standing investigation conducted by the southern district. they have in the past looked into the building trades and seen that builders in new york are at the mercy of mobsters who threaten labor strikes in order to unduly burden a builder. and a payoff is the order of the day. >> now, you like donald trump? >> i liked him, and i still like him a great deal. >> let me read to you some of his language. you talk about the mob. >> yes. >> he said don mcgahn, quote, isn't a john dean style rat, don mcgahn. he said he knows all about, quote, flippers, he praised