so he is staying that he will stay in, but he only that 13,000 donors out of the 130,000 that you need for the fall debates. so i think as one drops out, you will see a cascade of them. >> what are we hearing about tom steyer? >> all signs point that he will get in. sources close to the campaign -- or close it steyer i should say looks like they have already cut an ad and potentially even going to go on tv as soon as this week. and we'll see though. he has gone very close to this point before and stepped back. this could just be a repeat of the same hamlet act we saw before. >> zerlena, the essence festival over the weekend. michelle obama was there and she was asked about her husband's former vice president. here is what she said. >> what if anything would you like to say about the kamala/by