A quick still no magical go with the p. C. This place is magical its higher than all the museums in a radius of seven kilometers that you can see all the vatican city from here with its gardens on hills. St peters on the colony. And it towers above rome the papal city which is my home town and thats why its my favorite spot. And. The appointment of a woman like by bringing out the to head to museums with overdue theres no reason at all not the slightest why the vatican museums have to be run by a man. Like. That. And those who do dont know so much. But when a woman climbs that high in the vat. Its a reason to celebrate if she can succeed. But the. Appointment was a sensation a year ago she was named director of the museums collection. Of a million treasures administered by a host of historians and conservatives traditionally. And historian. Of the prince and drawing section at the Vatican Library at first she was one of only three women. I dont moan look at them in the mosquito. It was a male dominated world. People in the secular museums i had worked in there were more women. On the other hand when i left the Vatican Library twenty years later about half the staff were female and. The papacy adapted to social reality and it was inevitable that my may be that particular kind of function. The first woman to head the vatican museums still faces enormous challenges six million visitors pass through these hallowed halls each year as many as thirty thousand on a good day and all of them want to see the Sistine Chapel with its famous michelangelo frescoes. Extended Opening Times havent days the pressure. Now. Is trying to reroute the stream of visitors. To chill nicole chilling new book and i look at windows and there is only one interns to the Sistine Chapel visitors have to pass through them at galleries and the room and listen your torah says that. Were working on an alternative so that the chapel can get reached from various sides but whether that could be equipped with them its complicated because of security considerations is that when i would handle but without a can is being supportive to the support that it. Believes in modern style management. Goals are better cooperation between departments digitise ation and targeted conservation although she was surprised by her appointment shes not blind to its significance. Let me and all me know if it hit me in the bus when i got it sam. An Important Message to the world at large that pope francis wants to break down old patterns. There were six candidates at first then three and i was the only woman. Maybe that was what struck him and he decided to appoint me. By. The austrian born journalist Goodman Siler has worked at Vatican Radio for the past fifteen years since pope francis ordered a shake up of the churchs communication structures the hierarchy at the vatican broadcaster has leveled out. There are more women working at the vatican than most people think of the one hundred sixty or so journalists employed by Vatican Radio about half are women. They say theyre respected by their male colleagues and treated as equals. When you talk to certain bishops or cardinals theyre well aware of the problems many women in the Catholic Church are turning away because they dont feel theyre taken seriously. Women want to be more visible. This isnt in different parts of the world white church theres a growing sensitivity to that desire and its also reaching the vatican only. Becoming more visible is part of the challenge hardly anybody sees what goes on behind the walls of the vatican. Bought a quarter of the staff are women many more lay women the nuns and many of them highly qualified. Was the editor in chief of the french section of Vatican Radio for twenty five years looking back she remembers how difficult it was at the beginning how some cardinals thought it beneath dignity to be interviewed by a woman and simply ignored her. Also if ever wonder who she was. As soon as i left the studios to interview somebody at the vatican it was dreadful but when i was in a larger group of men i always had the feeling that i was somehow invisible when i asked a question the cardinals would reply to my male colleagues not to me. Although i was holding a microphone and had everything they needed to recognize. This mentality of pushing women to the margins of the workplace still exists everywhere women are supposed to be mothers brides or nuns they may work but they shouldnt want a career. Unfortunately thats what many women also think that its wrong to seek too much attention to ask for too much. The Catholic Church teaches that humility and modesty all virtues pope francis himself face critical of career minded priests and he often speaks out against traditional power structures that may be why he wants to see more women taking leadership roles people like the director of the vatican museums. The catholic journalist place danna flaw him welcomes this development she says it doesnt go far enough she has recently written a book demanding more power for women in the Catholic Church. Is this why isnt considered inappropriate for women especially for women to raise the question of power when they raise this question which i also do in my book theyre always told the church is not about the church is about service and humility but thats not true its also about positions of power the person who decides has power the person who can say you cant come in here or as a woman you cant be a priest has power. Baba yaga takes a different view she doesnt speak about power. Oh she will sit as a manager art historian and conservatory she runs an institution with a staff of more than one thousand considers herself fortunate alongside her administrative responsibilities she works in a field that has fascinated her since she was a child. By this you know sort of my mothers restoration work my sister was also a conservatory of paintings and stone. My grandmother was a painter i watched her making about pictures of rome. That was the environment i grew up in and maybe genes and the family do play a role that when the sea. Will influence of i mean that it will work calls that. Growing up in rome baba yaga was always fascinated by art she has also learned the skills of curating an exhibition her entire life revolves around art and religion. She is currently working on an exhibition about the history of catholicism in korea the vatican took an exhibition to solve and this is its counterpart most of the objects of being exhibited outside korea for the first time. Is complementing them with items from the vaticans own collections. Yatta would like to see more International Exhibitions held especially shows that have relevance to the vaticans collections she says shed even be prepared to loan out more of the vaticans treasures. Almost but i salute you and your new single but it will be there what i mean is that they will have an exhibition is more than just a collection of art orks every lonely item involves work with the administrators conservators and curators that put down but the heap by even up on the length of the way its all very important the. We participate in these projects when theyre academically interesting or promote ecumenism. Because most of the. Transition is the focus as in the korea exhibition i could get it thats when it was that it will of the. South korea is one of the Catholic Churchs Success Stories this exhibition documents the beginnings how in the seventeenth century diplomats from china brought the catholic faith to the korean peninsula. This chapter of Church History is being shown at the vatican for the first time and the turnout is impressive cardinals and senior bishops some of the vaticans most powerful men are here today. Is in her element explaining the structure of the exhibition catholicism was introduced into korea by lay people impressed by the jesuits in china. At first they had to operate in secret. They baptized each other because there were no priests in korea many women were drawn to the new faith perhaps because it promised justice and equality. The young church was actively persecuted as recently as the mid Nineteenth Century the exhibition chronicles this history of suffering and martyrdom and it also documents the strength and confidence that characterized the beginnings of the korean charge a korean version of the virgin mary a clear indication of how deeply the koreans internalized catholicism. Even today many korean catholics draw inspiration and strength from commemorating this history of courage and perseverance through the dark days of persecution. How. The Korean Church is very focused on equality and has always throughout its history encouraged women to get involved. That can be observed from the beginning from the first days of the founding of the church women have played an important role. Pope francis commands women for witnessing to the faith and he champions the course of women. Like his previous has as benedict times. John paul the second he has a deep devotion to the virgin mary the catholic icon of womanhood. But francis is also a pope who understands lives are not simply an embodiment of ideals. He reaches out to each individual passenger. This is a pope who encounters men and women and children with the same warmth compassion and respect although at some general audiences you might think he was simply a pop star being mobbed by his fans. The popes deputy spokesperson c. E. O. Of a hero explains the special report that he seems to have with women. From the squad to see the pope francis grew up surrounded by women not what looks revolutionary in the vatican is really quite normal the pope always close his grandmother rossana he had sisters his mother and close female friends his right hand in buenos aires was a woman his private secretary who died a few months ago. Perhaps it was this female environment in which Jorge Bergoglio grew up that makes him more receptive to the role of women in the church. He wants to make sure the church is accessible to everybody. He has already done a lot to make that happen in nearly five years in office he has appointed five women as undersecretaries the third highest leadership level at the vatican. And it will be more on his last trip to colombia at the popes state of them women should play important roles in society and in the church we represent fifty percent of the population. He says why should this resource be neglected why shouldnt we view women in the same way as men and all of us benefit those are the most holy one im. Sure. But gender equality and the role of women are not at the top of the agenda everywhere in the charge. There is still an immense gap between the vatican and the Secular Society when it comes to promoting women for instance by means of employment quotas. Although pope francis never tires of saying that women must be given more responsibility they are still woefully under represented at the vatican. Then if you compare him with his predecessors especially benedict the sixteenth and john paul the second i think its clear that he goes further his predecessors would never have said Something Like that they had a very clear idea that the main duty of a woman is to serve the family as a wife and mother of god. And if women go out to work then only in social professions when the idea that they should do every job that men do was beyond their comprehension. In that respect frances is pretty advanced that is why. Its in the wide. Agrees she has studied the situation of women at the vatican for years and has written books on the role of women in the charge. She believes pope francis might soon go even further. I was personally disappointed that for instance in a new vatican agency for the laity family and life the under secretary is a priest he could have been a lay person. Maybe the pope couldnt find a suitable woman who was prepared to take the job. Of woman has exercised managerial responsibilities for decades in catholic organizations and then has to change to a number two position at the vatican it might not seem so attractive. When seiler is meeting with her former Vatican Radio colleague from elder found out they are founding members of donna in vatican the fast organization representing female staffa at the vatican it has about one hundred members who made one some month to discuss issues of common concern however these women dont want to be labeled feminists networking is the. Their club is a registered association which means they have official recognition and transparent structures. People are still afraid to set up an organization and expressed themselves. When you talk about a womens group people immediately think its about women being admitted to the priesthood. All those issues that are still taboo in the Catholic Church. But our society doesnt promote ideas like that. These women are not demanding anything they are simply expressing a desire to make progress together in the church for christiana fog and thats not enough. Women working in the vatican or in the Catholic Church in general have to proceed diplomatically. They cant raise the question of power as such why do only men or ordained men have the right to make the decision. Forty years ago even twenty years ago there was an aggressive generation that fought for ordination admission to the priesthood as well as to the diaconate would please the. Days of the void today these women are either disillusioned and have left or theyve resigned. Yeah or theyve left the church altogether. For the strong opposition in many places to admitting women to the priesthood a quick survey of tourists in st Peters Square suggests that european and north american catholics are generally open to the idea. Of give benson for my time as a traditional its easier for me to accept a man as a priest but at the end of the day i think the situation will change not soon but some time maybe. If youre through with people but i dont think it was visited by the clergy might benefit from a bit of femininity. The female aspect could open up new horizons and. Its not about positions of power whether male or female its about serving the individual person rank is not important whether somebody is higher or lower the real task is to serve i would love to have a Roman Catholic priest that like women are good managers. And i suspect the vatican needs managing. Institutions like the us as great as they may be they really should be much more inclusive and im sure promoted and then not only because theyre women but because theyre really good at what they do. To get there i mean if you want to abolish the patriarchy you should start with the church that would be a tremendous signal for believers. I mean really but is it the this has initiated positive changes. He has modernized the church and we believe he will complete the task but he needs time. We have full faith in francis catholics and his argentinean. Many catholics believe that pope francis will succeed in reforming the church but he has stated clearly that he will not admit women to the priesthood the church has a long tradition of reserving the top jobs for men priests bishops and cardinals. The churchs patriarchal structure is a sentrys old tradition and tradition is one of the benchmarks of catholic theology. Relatively speaking pope francis is liberal he wants to give laypeople more responsibility so it seems quite likely that he will appoint more women. To managerial positions. So far she has only met the pope once he hasnt yet visited the museums but shes hoping he will. She knows he has a full sched jewel but then so does she without efficient planning and the support of her husband this mother of three would never be able to manage the job. It was a lot of an exact that and it included organize my life well gaddafi could of course its more difficult with the children but we divided up the household chores the young lady you know what i mean that wasnt very common thirty years ago not that that given that up at school i was lucky than that and then the fact one that i was able to combine family and work at that but i think ive managed my children are wonderful but in the end what about me must be great for me and what if i give shadow with the one of them putting it aside it will be. Baba yaga simple positive way of accepting things stems from have faced. If she didnt believe she wouldnt be able to walk in the vatican. And religion are inseparable here and as with the korean exhibition the focus is often the universal charge. To. Jack. I think. It is. And. The method said that if i could you know if i thought you never intended to have a career at the vatican even the idea of it is strange i just tried to do my work as well as i could to the premier that would have a problem a real image one of the did it that it was i was the kind you could call this my role as director of the vatican museums puts a lot of responsibility on my shoulders. But its also a privilege it is with that im very conscious of the fact that i work for the. And for the conservation of this tremendous world heritage. Month with the wood on the bottom one of the one that. Museums. Project. Is the collections representing. Christianity and thousands of years. Health. And hearings to law. Solidarity. They fall by the wayside when the gap between rich and form grows. Like in an equal societies. In fifteen minutes on d. W. 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