Weve come to northern chile and the port city of. Ts cuts from germany is here for the 1st time hes on a special mission one of his former teachers a priest is said to live here cut she was abused by him as a child. First its a bit of a remote location i hadnt expected that to hear from him often through. My tears cuts was abused by 2 teachers while at the conies he was calling a Jesuit High School in berlin for legal reasons we can only identify his abusers as a mark and as. Over a period of decades the 2 priests abused many children their superiors ensured that everything was hushed up. In 2010 finally blew the whistle on the perpetrators since then both men have been seen in chile. Asks if any germans are living here. A man pointed to a nearby street. But the investigation stalled Mathias Kutch is taking matters into his own hands and why does he feel he has to do this. Not because its also miles is going to do it because church is doing nothing really feel and i feel a certain sense of responsibility to warn people here. My quest to track down his abusers began in january 28th in santiago de. At the time the city was full because pope francis was in town while crowds celebrated the head of the Catholic Church. And nursed his anger against the institution. Back in 2010 he was instrumental in uncovering abuse in germanys Catholic Church by going public with what he had suffered. His actions empower dozens more abuse survivors to come forward but none of the cases was recent enough to prosecute the 2 priests. In 2015 the german broadcaster w d r reported on pay to our for the 1st time its research showed that the priest had abused a female student in recent years and the diocese of hildas time in 2010 she reported the crime herself to the diocese but the bishop in charge simply sent her home he did not inform her family or report the case to the authorities pay to are a scape punishment how could that happen. The day after that report was broadcast here this time bishops hinds good to bond gods and norbert tele give a hastily scheduled press conference. It was bangarra to a talk to the female student when she tried to report her case back in 2010 so why did he send her away. To sneak in one of my african look after repeated questioning she said very clearly that he had given her a kiss on the cheek and that during previous visits he had given her hugs but she didnt like. Either going to earth. Odd it was very clear to me in this situation that what was being described to me was not a sexual assault. Is a crime therefore i couldnt classify it as sexual abuse oh for munich. Im used to. It. But by that time it was already known that this priest was at the center of the abuse scandal at the Commuter School it. Didnt sound alarm bells for you make you think there might be more to this. Either. Some dumb bells so signs of affection my grease on the cheek or that kind of a pretty normal among young people today is this your 1st. Before long the government commissioner for the sexual abuse of children you harness the hand like took on a case. He called on the diocese to appoint an independent expert to thoroughly investigate the case of paper are kept and im told by have the impression that there is still a tendency to try to protect the institution why withholding information and not laying the facts on the table and that is preventing transparency it as a transparent for him that. The diocese gave in and in the fall of 2017 the report was published by putting out a Public Appeal the investigation uncovered dozens more victims of peta are from youth groups a kindergarten and even from far away. But the expert in charge of the investigation pit im also found all the cases had expired under the statute of limitations man comes from the law and judging by the pattern we see here its very probable that this is only the tip of the iceberg and we can see a pattern in the church of looking the other way and being unwilling to recognize the full scale of the problem then im going snows most votes from the. Bitter from gunsmiths know my apologize with all my heart that i didnt recognize the perpetrators strategies back then and that i wasnt able to draw the right conclusions to protect the children. A blood. Pressure bombards then tendered his resignation but it was rejected by his superiors so what next would he look for more victims of pay to our himself would he look into the links with chile or seek to find out what paper i was doing today. Months passed without any action in the end it was another who felt obligated to take up the cause mathias catch. He was shocked to hear of the abuse cases in chile and he had a good idea of where he might find. The fund that shankley still behave as one of the largest charitable organizations in south america with projects in peru and bolivia. Himself spent a year working here as a volunteer when he was 18 hes returned frequently and knows lots of people here. There were yeah yeah. Looks after children and provides them with an education. Many young people in chile find it hard to get work or job training here they can find both they can train as painters brick layers or office administrators. But let us cut has come to see the woman behind it all. That will got that worker sister catalina. Shes a german missionary who has spent 50 years working and shes won numerous awards for her work and has twice received the German Federal cross of merit. Over the past decade 5000000 euros in private donations alone have flowed from germany to sister catalina and crystal. 1st met her when he was a High School Student at the. Port for her project. The priest was one of the teachers. Adult friends. With young boys. And. The children. Dubbed the castle during his Group Exercises the boys would struggle with their feelings afterwards they would spend the night at the castle with the priest who showed them magazines. Questionnaires asking them how. They had to. Ask them about their dreams and urged them to masturbate in his room. Came to germany she talked about. The boy. She developed a friendship with. To come to germany and. Numerous young people. Living with. What does she think about that now knowing what she. And is there still a link between the priest and her organization. Can i said peter i know you do a very well. You came to chile to visit us one time had there been any forced and i could never have imagined that things like that could have happened to him in but he certainly tried to be a good person through his efforts to help many many people feel if you can mention i witnessed that myself as a fool. Of myself and all the time i and i feel for he even used his own pension to pay for a child to be able to study. For young person a man a woman people who just went to him with their needs. If you buy stuff. I know from the time that i was at school that he would give the gift to the boys that he was off to the fishing. Or and so obviously when i hear that hes been trying to be generous here when they get immediately around theres my suspicions that his generosity was all going to being able to pursue his last side and i wish and i knock and so could i thought i couldnt say that kind of do you think none of the young people that i know and i know the moment none of them could say that they became a victim at the front of all those who were there from the north or south some from bolivia to no one said anything at all cause i dont i dont have a single one it is the only one who was he still sending money to yeah he sends money here lives for 2 or 3 young women that he got to know here and made an effort to help them out he still sends money for them thats had and they should divide to him. I have to go. Yes yeah and this comes out of this is that my heart goes out to more and more of the people who have suffered. That is our top priority and. That thank you. This is he says me as i doesnt make sense to me to be honest this is exactly the problem if youre too close to the perpetrator its incredibly difficult to distance yourself from them and make a clean break to come down entirely on the side of the victims of these i thought oh puts the. It wont be his last conversation with sister. But 1st he wants to find the people who went from here to stay with pitt or are in germany. 2 of them were mentioned in the report on the head. From now on. Film with a hidden camera. In an outlying district of santiago he begins to ask around. What exactly did pay to our do after leaving can easy as. He was forced to leave the school in 1901 after his students wrote a complaint. They said his youth work was merely a facade and that in reality he was trying to control and influence their sexuality. But instead of going to the police his superiors in the church simply transferred him. First to the city of getting and they informed no one there about what hed been doing and so once again was working with children he abused a 9 year old an 11 year old and a 14 year old the church dealt with the matter internally and transferred him again this time to heal this time it was now 989 here was appointed priest at a local church where he helped provide meals to the needy. It was during this time that he began inviting young people from chile to stay with him a number of girls spent several months at his house helping with household duties in 19031 mother from here that she believed the priest was harassing them. She said the girls had told her he kept touching their breasts. 4 years later transferred to. 2 years after that he was moved from there to hanover. Since 2003 hes been retired and living in. When. The. Is hoping to speak to some of the women from chile who stayed with peta are one young woman agrees to meet him shes a new contact her name was not mentioned in the german investigation she spent a whole year living with pay to r. In hanover her sister also stayed with him and had a time she is mentioned in the head of time report but no ones been in contact with her. The family is part of sister parish. When i was 12 or 13. You know aga he came to chile to visit carolina. And twice he took my sister to carolinas house. She said he had touched her breasts. When he did it for a 2nd time i witnessed it myself. Just. Given that they remember how worried my sister was about visiting him in germany. She didnt want to go to the news so when you went to germany was your sister worried so you know yes she didnt want me to go to hanover because she knew id be alone with him. But i decided to go because i wanted to learn the language. I didnt want to stay with them but i wanted to learn. In this. Right from the start he took away the key to my room. So i pushed the sofa and the door but i was still afraid because i was alone and i knew what he was like. Yeah the only. Way that he rented an apartment and berlin. I didnt like going there because i had to sleep in the same room as him. But one time i woke up in the night and heard him making strange sounds in his bed he was masturbating why dont you do. You mean i didnt want to go back to berlin after that and when i did. I put chairs and my suitcase around my bed so that i would hear him if he approached by in the night. I mean that. Today the priest is 77 and still living in that berlin apartment. There that he abused the young girl from his time who reported her case to Church Authorities in 2010. That was the year the general public in germany heard about peta are because more than 40 other. Students went public. The church responded all the cases had expired under the statute of limitations and it neglected to mention the young woman who had reported her case that same year nevertheless the abuse scandal made International News and reached. Suddenly in the newspaper and i read that he had abused many children. I told my brothers and sisters about it or not my parents as they knew nothing of what had happened. Right at that time when the news came out. He suddenly turned up here at our house to tell my parents anything about the scandal he just said hed come for a holiday. And my brothers and sisters came and we demanded a meeting with carolina. Forced him to leave my house and to tell my parents was happening. The media reports all kinds of things and acted like he done nothing wrong at all. And sister carolina defended him. Then my brother told him to leave our house sources to carolyn i took him with her. New sense. Time. Yes. I keep telling myself he should pay with a life sentence for what hes done. What no one should suffer the way people suffered under him. Especially should be sent to prison to pay. His idea that us he knows what hes done. Is so what i dont understand is that he talked about god and being a catholic but then did such evil thing was yes it is evil now he needs to pay i think about thats time sorta. At the end the young woman shows us a photo of her with good friends of peta are in here this time because no one stopped the priest the young girl next to her was also abused by him. That was the student who reported her case to the hideous time bishops in 2010. Was the going to take him from having to fight back tears the whole time because each isnt. About this dish it was the right thing to do which is what i did was right. Just would be painful to talk about it but there comes a point when you have to lay everything out on the table and then its enough and. Now im going to focus on it from morning till night but you just need to have it all out as once and say this is what happened hes responsible and they looked the other way or cooperated or later covered it up. Yeah and ill come on and then you can slowly start to close the box and save that 6. 00 notes of all and then you can get on with your life and then come up with a little. During our previous conversation sister catalina claimed she knew nothing of any abuse cases and. Now weve heard a different story evidently sister kelly and even took the priest into her home in 2010 at the height of the abuse scandal so whats the truth. Wendy im told that if they had said anything that our daughters had problems i would have confronted kater and center home. But you did not do that in 2010 you didnt send him home to give my house was a question i couldnt because i didnt know anything they said nothing that you knew from the press need for not really girls but in general. To find out but i said from the press and women but i cant condemn someone based on accusations in the press. I knew pater liked to have hugs and kisses adamantly and crystal and gave out kisses him self which was a bit unusual thats. What a kiss here a kiss there. Im christian and i cant tell you anything i didnt see anything or know anything critical there be more abuse survivors who havent said anything i think my when i asked various ones i got no answer i know what thats like its not possible to an adult its good do you want for on the there are some young women are known to have someone touches them in the wrong way they give them a swag plus the next it blows that i have to ask if they touch their breasts or thought im close but when they try to kiss their eyes my trample the manties a horse sometimes its problematic wifie oh because sometimes with a person going to start to cooperate and go along with it and the and that to the thing that i thought and written and thats meant to them about him then later they think that he crossed a boundary at all. And then they start to feel partly guilty for it seems that they let it happen much witty that except that they allowed the other person to do what it did have and for. A game i said would especially i understand the 2 girls had a terrible time in germany. Is this nice of me to make yes for them as an adult partly there and responsibility and its respect shouldnt one sister warn the other and say dont dilute what is a terrible for mate at least so its the familys responsibility actually host almost since the families responsibility we saw an elephant standing how are outsiders supposed to know that in the morning daniel and then the man pays for your studies afterward it is given you carry on accepting the money like that until maybe they were afraid because peter paid the money through us visa basically had gotten their money here and the office desk 8 or does and thats probably doubly difficult because you accuse the man it was at the same time sending you money thats monday and. Im glad. So as soon as i get the chance i want to talk to the 2 of them and i wont come with any accusation and from well ill just say how sorry i am they didnt have enough trust to Say Something back again with mr thought that one had no element of us thought it would have helped me a great deal or that they had said some play ok maybe i could have helped a greater effort i really think i could have done with today if id have known i could have intervened can travel can. Help the girls to things i havent really thought of yes of course as far as you can hellhound have all kind of hit it but whats done is done i wouldnt know how to help the families have to word 5000000 i really wouldnt this dish nish does this worry us all and i thank him but it hurts me that they didnt trust me enough to say anything it would be this this is nick thats modest but only. Because this was a gift they could have given me one from me to trust me and they knew me. That stare never the lessons in life we live for each and every want to include others and to move on do have it so again on earth and it would really be mine desire for the 2 of them that they can get free of this religious act and im ready to talk to them with all the love that im capable of gods help so right thats my hope for both of them and the thing that we would be able to talk. English to get she wants to believe wish that and i can understand that that her colleagues and friends are innocent of these things we surely didnt in the dinner. And others also should rather focus on and believe everything that appears to speak for them than to just believe the simple statements of the victims he simply also helpful well so she relativize it plays down to 6 excuses or explanations so if in. Obviously its a bitter experience for me given that its nothing new in fact it was a recurring pattern at least i thought out as most noted obviously i now have my doubts as regards the safety of the children and young people here today in my gob by that got my home very much that is the better realize asian. Which is better or so for all the friends of sister carolyn and her world you know the all that and all that it will provoke a response that says. Thats how can we prevent this kind of suffering from occurring again. In the institutions and initiatives of this foundation even. And how can we distance ourselves clearly from these perpetrators. Once theyre forgotten i just dont see. The abusive priest had access to children and young people for more than 40 years he was unwilling to speak to us on camera but back in 2015 he did agree to be interviewed at his berlin apartment. He said he only asked the conies year students to masturbate in his room so that he wouldnt have to report them to the school director. As for the girls he said he never gave them anything more than a kiss on the cheek. From his point of view he has no criminal. Meanwhile his mission is not over yet now hes arrived in northern chile. P. H. O. R. Has been here before to. He visited the other implicated priest from germany in s. He said to be living in today. The 2 of them 1st met his High School Students in the 1950 s. Then in the seventys they worked as teachers at the berlin conies. It was here that they met sister. But theres Something Else that peter r. And s. Have in common a large group of former students a very were abused by both teachers while at the community. And Mathias Kutch is one of them. Stripped the children naked and beat them for hours after his deeds came to light he too was transferred 1st of all to hamburg. After. He was transferred. To the church. And. Added that he had more opportunities. As for the church he kept everything to them they didnt want anyone in. The church. The crime. Or. Is one of the most successful sports clubs in athletes from here have even made it to the olympics. So how does the coach see the club today. In germany there were accusations against him. Behind here was a great. There are many people here who to this day continue to speak about some with affection. Nothing like. He didnt do anything. And we didnt see anything else. He worked and that was. My question is. If these documents exist in all of exactly zation why some in prison. But my ts kutch speaks with a woman on the phone who has a very different view. Of the materials. She met both about and pay to are at what the moon does. They were known as part of a voice she and padre pedro. She went to stay with peter are in here does what you want but is she willing to talk to Mathias Kutch about it but for a loss ace. On and with a 6 oclock here who talks good very good. By evening our contact had changed her mind she didnt want to speak in a public place but rather at home in her own apartment she too has heard nothing from here this time shes received no compensation or offer of counseling. Can you tell us how you got to know better than us to pay to holland or free a pedro. Here but when i was little i went to tours among those together with my family because it was linked to the church. You wanted me from media in to see your business. Then vavi came to visit us and we really trusted him with a new motor going faster because we felt very privileged to be close to a priest for good governor. Thank you number 2 were going to say. We got to know petra while he was here on holiday he offered my sister and me the opportunity to come to germany for learning purposes. He felt that we were intelligent somehow. And that we could achieve more and have great opportunities. In the movie and had you experienced anything with alfie at that time policy. There was a very disturbing situation with my sister at. First he left it up. Yes and then he had her more than once on her. And she felt terrible she says shes never been able to wear a scarf again to this day of smacking was something he always did to the boys at the club not the girls of the bus that was very rare. For pussy look in look at how come youve never spoken about this in all these years. Because its shameful. But there was Something Else she struggled with too in here this time there were appeals for donations to sister kathy and christopher even peta are used photos of his young guests from chilling to raise funds for the foundation. Believe you moved up you know this before. It was terrible to see the photos of myself with the rug and things. Because it obviously provoked an emotional response causing people to want to help. Your now right here. And that really are you. And that is tough for a child but then i dont believe it was in the petri we knew from chile where we thought hes helping us out whether that means fallen terribly or go pursue ok you said that when you 1st got to know pages out of it or some way happened that should never have happened with the video of your puzzle. There was something that immediately bothered me c. And that was his hocks 7 s. Imagine if he would hug me under the arms but he put his hands. He put his hands on mine my knowing me on my breast. In effect. He has this affected your life. See yes youre going to see and again i sense that someone is attracted to me sexually i just freeze completely. Its like something thats beyond my control. My body feels liveable and i seem to go into a state of shock i will give you the look of your borman excited look at me its really difficult to get psychological help here in chile. But its complicated because its very expensive. To do normally lot number to your name was mentioned in the holders time reporter along with a number of others and. To this day no ones trying to contact you as part of the investigation but its a lie in history is to go steal someone like a muslim and well let you know. West of americans i mean what does it matter if its one child more or less from here you hear when i heard about it i thought of course the others in german children people are more likely to listen to them. The ones from their own maybe not so important here its the parents responsibility. Theyre the ones who sent us their. Suddenly an earthquake puts an end to our conversation. Not yet finished and. He now knows that both his former teachers were responsible for bringing young people from here to germany but what he doesnt yet know for sure is whether s. Who is now 73 years old is still living here today and what hes doing. He goes to the Santa Cruz Church where the former jesuit priest used to be in charge he wants to meet with his successor and warn him who he wants to speak to. The 2 of them talk 1st 3 hours. Tells the priest about his own experience as used to strip him naked and beat him for hours he talks about his other classmates and how the scandal came out in 2010. He speaks about the abuse survivors here in. The priest said he had no idea of the scale of the problem he says hell appeal for others in this parish to come forward with what they know and he gives Mathias Kutch his current address. It seems to be the case here in a recurve everyone who heard about the abuse scandal in 2010 really believes it was just slander and that nothing actually happened is always abuse mentioned just a bad people in germany who came up with an idea to harm their party and so they just dismissed it but they say hes still here and still in contact with the Church Members that are involved in the running club remind them of the dont be buddies. And thats true overall though hes said to live quite a secluded life its. No longer makes public appearances in the way that he used to when he 1st showed up here the others. But thats as i hear off the top this comes about i thought about going to see his. Yard yes i thought about it every thought to be honest i dont want that kind of confrontation the whole thing would take a psychological. Other people always want that kind of thing some kind of reconciliation or whatever but thats not me near this is that i dont think thats important we talked far too much about the perpetrators and not enough about the victims but in. In september 28000 the german bishops conference published a new study on child abuse in the Catholic Church in germany. It found at least 3600 children fell victim to abuse between 19462014. Cardinal hard marks apologized to those who suffered abuse. I feel ashamed when i see how so many just look the other way who didnt want to. What was happening and played it down. Who didnt want to see or hear and i include myself in that we didnt listen enough to the victims all this cannot remain without consequences of those who have suffered have a right to justice. The vatican itself has since held its 1st summit aimed at tackling the global problem of sexual abuse by catholic clergy but what about the diocese of his time auxiliary bishop hines good to bunk wasnt willing to speak on camera he wrote to us that despite what he called intensive research by the Vatican Embassy in chile it had not been possible to make contact with any abuse survivors there. But he said the hideous crime cases would be included in an internal Church Tribunal looking into the case against peter are the maximum punishment would be dismissal from the priesthood. My time in chile is coming to an end its a final evening in that it. Has managed to find the young women named in the Hill Discovery court and by talking to their sisters has identified 2 more previously unknown victims of peter or he will pass on their names to the hill. In the hope that they can receive compensation and professional help. It felt like the mission was over but then early the next morning. Change of heart about. The red one. Looking for a german man. If. His house was back there. Wow they must i dont really need to go there ive seen it now i know where it is and thats enough. I just wanted to know where he years and thats ok its not about him. I mean if you find its good and i feel good relieved exactly lighter than before yes that. After left we tried to speak to was god as ourselves but he didnt answer the door. And mixed ethnic bad cats into one Dance Company 12 exception all the answers from across the globe are brought together by one of the most exciting choreographers of arts high. Def the kind of perry you want certain gown and the ballet of to friends. And 30 minutes on the w. Its time to take the stone. Face. Time youre up to such they are up. And frankly for the troops. To over come down troops and connection. Its time for. A new debit is coming up ahead. Minds. What secrets lie behind these moments. 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