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Guinea your data our topic today on mate welcome when we use social media and Online Services like banking and shopping we reveal all kinds of information about ourselves the problem is crooks can steal it and then use it to hamas all the people around us and Companies Face the same dangerous now youd think that every 5 nowadays would be prepared to fight off hackers but many arent and thats where specialists come in i. T. Giant i. B. M. Has set out to teach managers what to do in an emergency and reportedly took part in a Training Session simulating a large scale cyber attack. In this specially equipped truck they simulate every companys worst nightmare. Today im playing a scene of a company that is facing a lot of problems because its being attacked from the internet. The other journalists here are playing Department Heads at his company a major Bank Alexandra croon is a Cyber Security expert at i. B. M. And you can let me go thank you. God. Packers have taken control of a cash machine. Where is the a. T. M. Move. Ok they get their money as soon as possible the case for germany is that. 67 percent does not even have a plan in place for responding to a cyber attack and the feel of those who has only half of them train it when people are under pressure in a critical situation like a cyber attack is if its written somewhere that has taken down the company then they are not prepared to respond in a way that will reduce the impact on the company or government in our simulation the question the journalists face now is to shut down the banks i. T. Systems and reboot them in real life such a situation might well trigger a panic with senior Staff Members reluctant to take responsibility and take charge that is a chain of Jewelry Stores in germany in early july hackers took over its servers and encrypted all its data they reportedly demanded and received a ransom in bitcoin to restore the companys access to its own. Data. But we also advise companies to have a dot website that my site is a website youve already prepared and now you can launch it on what they see from this web site you can see. In the simulation the bank doesnt have a back up website like that the situation is getting worse a photo popped up on twitter the hackers have hijacked a lift at headquarters. 2 years ago Danish Shipping Company mask was hit by the not petty away because days of global havoc mess was eventually able to reinstall thousands of servers and computers from backups that were almost up to date for a while its hard to communicate with clients via walks up. There is never any parent see or 100 Percent Security as there is always as well with risk its always a matter of how much risk are you willing to take on but we can say that there is a certainty that you can train some of these things down to a level where you can reduce the impact ill pretend a bank now gets an email apparently from one of its executives he says hackers not demanding money and cause huge damage luckily the participants determine that the email is a fake. We just see this red landscape golding very badly and even in i. B. M. We see the vulnerabilities to take this is on the rise because now we have more digital societies so a larger attack surface wrought and one 3rd of all attacks phishing these simulations help i. B. M. Clients prepare for possible disasters in the real world. One of the techniques they use here is to target business travelers on their. Behaviors and poets and that could for example be. Setting up fake wife eyes so that when you connect to airport wife i you think its an effort by 5 but its actually an attacker that has set up and wife i that imitates the airport wife i. Thought it was. Exciting as i expected to be but in the end i have to say ive ruined a lot of things for example a c. E. O. Has to handle a lot of information all of wants and he has to make this process you cant because every minute counts sometimes its such a relief not to be a c. E. O. But agenda next. Well for c. E. O. s journalists and all the rest of us to get anything done these days you pretty much have to go online whether you want to book a doctors appointment or nail down a good rate on a hotel room or rental car still many germans remain reluctant to embrace the digital age us on facts and figures. Fears about data theft are greater in germany then other European Countries it worries 55 percent of all germans compared to the you average of 45 Percent People in poland are less concerned and least of all in malta. That may be one reason why germany is lagging behind when it comes to digitalisation while more than 90 percent of people in finland denmark the netherlands and sweden use Online Banking Services Just 55 percent of germans do below the e. U. Average. Thats amazing considering how many brick and mortar Bank Branches have closed down in germany well to each their own in many parts of asia people have a very different attitude towards the internet and a huge amount of time online every day do they worry their data could be used against them well treated. Was the but i have 1000 friends on my facebook and him on that but then my aunt would just pull up really love facebook because everybody and all where i was on the meet i post photos of my girlfriend and my dog. The posing the facebook evolution word of buddhas teaching. I had 2000 facebook friends thought. A lot and i was somewhat eagerly have certainly gotten out of my. Bank card has more facebook profiles than inhabitants ties spend more time on the internet than any other people in the world an average of 9 hours and 38 minutes every day. A few seem to be concerned about protecting their private data. And that can be big business. Which the. Chips fall mung problem turns data into money all the day that you think. Its all on these computer and if they see people. You need to understand that when you play when you like when you stop the see you already in all the data the best book that will go through whatever. We are the technology to help the brand to know how to talk the right way to the right consumer with information from the social media. And his fellow founders set up their company 5 years ago. Today they employ a 160 staff to analyze data from Asian Countries such as japan indonesia and vietnam their customers are government authorities and companies who are key. And to person the best possible image for example of the data analysts track customers perceive the products of a large cosmetic company by evaluating comments posted online so they have this crisis but there. Were a lot of consumer that complain about sticky. Sticky hair like that shampoo was causing sticky hair so we put the keyword for a sticky. Under the. Name of the product and then we create a chart for them to see the movement off the whole timeline and whether its going up or going down in contrast to germanys andrews Business Model is excepted here after all users have consented to the processing of their data. But. Is that is followed a brand to understand. You need to with the time to talk something to the listening guy. Interesting to hear so in we understand hes just hes here. Thailand is undergoing a Digital Transformation under the new king the government has been supporting startups but it has also tightened control over the internet despite the surveillance more and more ties are going on line in 2016 alone there was a 20 percent increase in Internet Users they dont expect the state to protect their data people who are interested in protecting their data have to take matters into their own hands one possible solution the Digital Identity wallet designed by Edmund Lowell an american citizen who lives in the north of thailand it uses decentralized Block Chain Technology to ensure Data Security so he is a Digital Identity wallet that the user controls and they store their information that can be identity documents like a passport and it could be identity data like im going to america and heres my birthday and it can be verified claims like ive proven to this notary on this date that im american and i can share just that fact with someone else. First visited the country to take part in a thai boxing match and state to set up a start up. Now hes fighting against the commodification of Internet Users data. I dont think really aware of what happened to their data or at their data is being used by someone so this is a very Large Companies mechanism to feed them more or sell them something or do marketing or advertising the companies can misuse the data misappropriate the data the data and what we need to do is decentralize our identity systems and really enable stuff so often i dont think. Many people are still not aware of just how necessary it is to keep their private data safe and out of the clutches of others. I have to admit im not much of a risk taker myself i dont even have a pay pal account but being too cautious has plenty of drawbacks i guess the trick is to balance risk and security without compromising one or the other. But where risk ahead. Wherever i go i spread fear everyone is keen to minimize me or shut me out completely. For i am risk. Everyones afraid of me the traffic the Nuclear Industry or the stock exchange. Everyone loves my nemesis security but there is no getting away from me completely. Everywhere no matter where you are the bigger and my dear i am the higher the potential profit. The smaller and weaker you make me the slimmer the odds of coming up roses in germany especially companies go out of their way to avoid me all they want is security there only now beginning to build major factories to produce their own batteries for electric cars until now they say it posed to greater risk but in the u. S. And asia im not so despised tesla and samsung are busy producing batteries for electric cars they believe risk pays and thats true i risk and the real driver of the economy the entire Global Insurance system is designed to guard against the havoc i could wreak. The industry was worth an estimated 3. 00 trillion 1. 27 seen. Im a guarantor for wealth and progress venture capitalists know that accepting me is part of what makes great ideas and innovations possible. Silicon valley is full of people who arent afraid to embrace me those who are good at figuring me out and weighing up the risk can we hadnt been. But be aware those who underestimate me or ignore me do so at their peril take me for less than i am and i can cause chaos i know no mercy. The bigger i get the more i can potentially destroy i always take down everything. With me. Now taking risks is constant postle of the start up business this 1 may just stop pop here in europe tel aviv has probably more startups but capita than any other city in the world plenty of foreign firms also pursue r. And d. In israel because the business and science environments are so nurturing technology for self driving vehicles is one big focus but there are many of us. The greater tel aviv area is home to around a 3rd of all israelis traffic in and around the city is chaotic to say the least. Sometimes the only way to make any progress is by moped. For Autonomous Cars russian tech firm yandex is testing itself driving vehicle in traffic here. The engineer sitting behind the wheel isnt driving. The car is doing everything all on its own explains you have a call she works for the Russian Company. Were going to stop here above it shows us the reason why were stuck here its like either pedestrians best thing or here is the traffic light. Could someone outside the car seize control of the vehicle. The car is can we were taught in this all the calculations happen on board there in the trunk you can see a big p. C. Which does all the calculations so you can attack the car from the outside because its lots connected to the outside world. The Autonomous Car is still learning in an emergency situation the driver hits a button and takes over the controls. The Russian Company is convinced that its vehicle is completely secure because potentially dangerous Cyber Attacks cant access its system right now were trying to make sure all the technology is 100 percent safe anywhere and for dads you dont need any external communication you dont even need the said. Because car in the car like allies is not based on the satellite signal which can easily be helped as well. It might be easy to hack a satellite signal but a fundamental belief in the power of Technology Remains unshakable at the d. L. D. Tell of the digital conference. The topics of security and Data Protection how dont really taken center stage. The headquarters of the startup arbor grow body x. Arent far from the Conference Venue Israeli Companies focused on autonomous driving are setting up to compete with russian and american rivals. Many of the Staff Members here gained experience in the Israeli Military are but works with radar ray there is a very on used the can always. Fall civilian applications its very common in the army in the army basically radar is doing majority of the sensing. But. Outside of that the radar is really underused just like aircraft are but the use radio waves to recognize obstacles radar works in every kind of weather and a start up system has very High Resolution so when youre driving everything is approaching so it becomes everything green is stationary everything. Is getting farther away and everything that is ready is approaching us. What looks simple is anything but because safety is paramount the technology that is needed in order to solve the problem of driving is like landing on its even more complicated than that. The challenges big. Level of safety that you need to bring is a very high. Other Israeli Companies are deploying the latest Digital Technology for data evaluation and control this moped is in Constant Contact with its firm Central Office staff there can see where the messenger is at any given moment and the moped can also be controlled remotely to some extent if the writer. Going to fast Head Quarters can simply slow it down. Or if you have a very strong cybersecurity from the israeli army so we have a person who has been working for 20 years in Cyber Security that joined our team specifically for this and also in a scooter the braking system is separate from the engine so even if something if we can lock down this quarter from far we can stop it but the driver on a scooter can still do full brakes everything will. Control and Artificial Intelligence both big topics at the tell of the digital conference even the Construction Industry is getting in on the game this start up has developed an autonomous crane. You know i think that in created 20. Human being should not be in this kind of environments in a very small caribbean. Walking on a very huge machines its very difficult. To develop or say the ai equipped crane can do everything a human could be like an Airline Pilot the operator is just there as a safeguard generally everything will go as planned but not always people that think their privacy their data. Is sure. Is protects. Unfortunately are not understanding of the new game. Its a new game that counts on trust in Artificial Intelligence and assumes that both data and technology is controllable. Again with an uncertain outcome. A game with an uncertain outcome Cyber Threats can be hard to times to embrace new technologies and remain open to all the new possibilities big institutions are also grappling with data issues germanys foreign intelligence is the b. And d. Has its own Cyber Security unit and is keen to hire the best hacker as we found one of them willing to talk. Bending hours days weeks trying to get into a system and getting nowhere can be very frustrating but when you finally succeed its an amazing kick. Interviewing lucas is an amazing kick for me to look at this isnt his real name and we can show his face the work he does is highly sensitive. He works in Cyber Espionage at germanys Foreign Intelligence Agency the b. M. D. But no one is supposed to know that. We hardly allowed to film anything including handing in our cellphones and passing through a number of security checks. We need lucas in a distant corner of the building the press box person and the Safety Officer i present throughout the entire interview. What exactly do you do thats good now obviously i cant go into detail about what exactly it is i do basically im a hacker that i intrude into i. T. Systems to gain information that its true that the typical cases involve figuring out whats happening abroad and you might want to know whats going on in country x. Or y. For example you want to find out about weapons and Defense Technology somewhere organized crime or of course terrorism these are all areas in which theres a serious demand for hacking. He makes the sound very. Look as this about 30. Willing to say. By himself and sent it on spec application to the b m d a few years ago. Now he has a job he cant tell anyone anything about. I usually tell people i have an office job in i. T. And then people usually dont bother asking any more questions it sounds like all i do is install printers and so on and no ones interested in that the b. M. D. Is an urgent need of people like lucas and i t experts with an unconventional approach. A glossy p. R. Campaign is designed to improve its image and the service is deliberately targeting job fairs and University Students the trouble is potential candidates know their skills are in demand and that they can earn more in the private sector. That 1st glance there is a competitive disadvantage we do try to be an attractive employer. That is what the spokesperson says what does lucas say. I get to do things that arent legal in the outside world i also get to feel ive done something useful my contribution ends up in a report and makes a difference its not just the standard security tests that Companies Carry out. But actually has consequences in terms of Foreign Policy and political consequently enjoy that out and its worth getting paid less for a low in fact the pay is pretty decent. Lucas county imagine working anywhere else hes a Civil Servant so doesnt need to worry about getting fired but anonymity is everything. A few people know what i do you know my immediate family and some Close Friends know it too. But in general the response is ok you work for the Foreign Intelligence Agency this time obviously you can talk about it and so it. Does and im good friends with 2 or 3 of my colleagues so if i really need to live i can always drop by their offices and let off some steam all scots humans. Can call it must be strange leading a double life knowing things the general public will never be aware of i feel like i got a sense of what its probably like but have a learnt anything not really the b. M. D. Is a secret service its very good at making sure that what it does stay secret. And thats all the data we have for you today from me and im a team thanks for watching. After. Europe. What unites. What divides. The money and looks the driving force. What binds the continent together. To answers and stories aplenty a. Spotlight on people. Some good. 30 minutes on d w. I was issued when i arrived here i slept with 6 people in a room very similar it was hard i was fit. I even got white hairs out of. 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