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Friend of the challenge from his rival nelson to me, so we explore the state of democracy in the country. And nigeria is shortage of doctors wessons of the more of them head overseas. We look at why they leaving and find out whether the grass is truly green on. On the other side, we mentioned the names area so way it was we waiting for him and we werent really getting any feedback in terms of the kind of im told me on the line. People welcome to the program. Can use government has opened a criminal investigation into the activities of a Digital Company that had members of the public flocking to sign up for its project world coins as its building a kind of digital identity. Welcome to do that. It needs peoples biometric information with critics of raised questions over the safety and protection of the dates of being harvested. And frankly, whether this isnt simply something dodgy. Dw correspondent edith kamani has visited well coins. Biometric exercise in nairobi, a sense of this report. When world cleaned launch the activities in kenya, the response seemed incomplete. Sensible. Long queues formed death to death registration points. A 1000 suite it to have the irises scanned. A weight to us indicates the identity and enabled them to use the digital currency. Of some confidence on some part of that is good. That seems to be some level of management from the one us on. Theyre going to see everyone who is being given to queens, dental. My charting at the center at the same time, is when they, when they much at the same time, everyone says, im not going to slide it into market, reducing its value. However, most of those we spoke to what he has simply for money. In kenya, the tech company was offering free digital tool can suit everyone who registered and those 2 kids could then quickly be exchanged for 49. 00 at the block market. Right outside the registration point. A saving grace for many not. Theres no money, thats the 1st thing. Theres no what people are struggling out here. The cost of living has gone up. What have you make is just not enough. The predicts of res, concerns about the money in which consumer consent was obtained questioning, where they bought at an inducement, something well, clean denies. They use that has full control, full access to the data and full ownership of that data. And while that actually enables 0, ive tracking it to interest that to you. Theres no data leakage and that youre not being trucked across multiple applications as you browse through the internet to african. Specifically, the concerns from critics has been crypto colonialism. A phrase used to describe the use of the most Vulnerable People in the world of guinea pig for emerging technologies and systems. Indeed, most of the people we spoke to do not understand Block Chain Technology, or even what the data they were sharing could be used for. Well, couldnt respond to, to the suspension and kenya saying it would take the time to work with the authorities to boost understanding of privacy measures this event as legislators called for strong good implementation of data laws in the country that speak to bryce come any mode or a kenyan based Cyber Security specialist currently with myra wallet, which is also in the crypto space. You joins us from nairobi, bryan, good job, you on the program. And thats been a lot of criticism of this world klein issue, but also the weve seen the, the long queues. Is this something people should be concerned about . In my own opinion, i think people should be concerned about it because theres so many of questions that we tried to. And so when it comes to was the claim. Um, 1st of all, we only hear about was going right now by the if you get to know like in can yeah, well the core and have the right. If i bought more than a year and a half right now, the privacy concerns i come in and this when now was going, is trying to update people on that. And its still not clear exactly what theyre trying to do with this kind of iris or the facial recognition details. The composition is saying that they want to actually have it was digital id. By the thing is were going to use it. What are you, what are the use cases in which countries are they be great to be able to have a digital id to be used . Is a government aware thatd be good to have such a digital id, how they acted as section always have the be accepted to be able to have to publish such details. Those are the concerns that we have it when it comes to load point. In addition to that is happening, right . The, some people of how friends, you know, the ones weve heard about who, who to, and you know that doing this because theyll get some money tree benefit out of this, the other, some people, even among those, or generally other people who just say, you know, that to insignificant in the global spare set of things and dont have to worry about the personal data because you know what, what does it matter if someone takes the data or yeah, i mean, its also look at this, this a lot of, uh where it is that we dont have majority of the country, let me say more than have that kind of done and thats about what privacy means or what is why the practice mesa them. But you see if a gold, the right direction, if you take a fingerprint, for example, for the airport, you are actually using that because you do need those details and they have been approved by the government to be able to actually collect that detail. Why . Because you could be a terrorist, you could be flying to another country where you still need that fingerprints authenticate to know is you not here. If somebody is giving you and cannot shoot a 7000. 00, which is that 40. 00, nobody actually get to understand the like, look, i dont really care. Look at it for me to read every have right now. Look at the people who are going to lice queue for, for what quaint is not the typical person who is due to 9 to 5 is people who dont have the means on and, and, and, and given them above 4045. 00 is free money. The right way to your ticket breach off my face for my irish just for that money. I mean, why not . Ill do it. So that, that became a kind of controversial ask for those things where people are not sure because dad is thought of privacy problem because theyre not aware. And we havent got that enough awareness on privacy issues in the country or the continental say, actually do, do we do things as a risk of this kind of thing . Exploding and africa where more peoples data is in mind and possibly exploited. Yes, we have seen dates have been exploited in the past. They have in mind in the past weve seen a lot of for Cyber Security issues where the data has been excelled, treated, we see mobile networks being able to switch trade data to the countries. Thats when i was suppose to do that. I dont suppose to have the data. We have seen the organizations come and breach our data and i would data. So for entity and be able to take our data that we dont even know what i did to with that data, we have no idea. Now the thing is, this could be used for bigger projects, like for this up with this wall going to be if id be got pregnant, the way off that too many of course of the anomalies. You see it even though its very transparent from the very beginning. This what ive been as a thing that a year and the or 2 ago what ive been explained saying this is what youre trying to do. Why is it that right now is what were trying to understand that this is for a load id. This was not the composition that was brought out at the beginning. Well going, as i mentioned is, is in the chris crypto sphere. Um, i mean you, you work with my or wallet as well as the block chain and crypto themes seems to be budgeting law seems to be quite popular in africa specifically why, why is that . I mean, theres so many benefits all script of pregnancy and i think theres a lot of Block Chain Solutions that can help to do with security. I mean, for example, right now, if i want to buy land, i have to go through so many lawyers have to go to so many people to sign a lot of documents. Now with block chain, a computer code is able to actually fight, verify the details of my land title deed before out ill be able to pass it up for my present to the ada because the spot, the contract. If you look up payments right now, um, i mean if you go to another country like, uh, if you will be a for example, i have to swipe my, my, my debit card on almost 4 machines just to get to be able to like to make payments like that doesnt work, it becomes very difficult to do business that so cost for the payments. Id like to be dealt with triple a car is especially stable coins. Uh for example, what are you comfortable for like to us . Do you see . Can i help you and is regulated to the benefits of the trip the car is, is out there. They are so many other. Com still which are happening as well because a lot of awareness has not been done. And this also and other people who are trying to Just Transition the transition of technology and, and Knowledge Base that youre trying to see right now. And thats Something Like murder, we try to do. We try to make it easier for people to be able to build on a block chain. Very easy when it comes to a Software Development at business, just to be able to build on the block chain and wish you happy with to actually work with stable clients like circle you have to see to be able to make sure that transfer all assets across or off of off of the car, this is can be easy if you look at it to come with this mastercard, visa, all of these people are jumping onto the Block Chain Technology at right now. The fall has to be connected to 2. Um, um, to do 2 triple courtesies. So as you can see, the financial effect is all is really jumping on board and business dot com. Its up to be about to raise, but we have to be really careful exactly what the use of it for. Okay, brian to come anywhere with the Cyber Security specialist. Thank you for speaking to us. Thank you so much. The zimbabwe will hold its elections this coming wednesday up for grabs of the offices of president , members of parliament and local government counselors. There a dozen candidates vying for the top job, but the main contest is between the incumbent president emerson and god of design potty and nelson to me. So all the Opposition Citizens Coalition for change. The run up to the vote has been defeated and a times even bloody will get some analysis in a moment. The 1st, heres the w corresponding privilege, machinery. With more on the leading president ial candidates for the day is cost for the winds, diploma with policies. Weve beat us to, to, from the main to president ial candidate incumbent president. We found out what presents himself is pro business and sees is government has created stability and Economic Opportunities the, the, the, the, this is something new, so heres intent placed to go the corner. We use corruption and viewed and inclusive, presumably they listen has been described, is a divided between the old and the young generations for the ellipse rates it is it choice between maintaining this fits . Thats cool. Well, embracing they change in the opposition, which they, im not sure yet. Many would want to see a government that would send around the corner me create jobs, good health and inclusive muscle and whatnot. What is a 2 years old . He came to power off to it, 2017 military cool, which tor poured long time. Who lot robot mcguffey, many see, one of what didnt change much though, and hes accused awful pressing openings on the international stage. Hes known for his close relationship with the russian president. Let me have 14. He had recently attended putting these after the assignment and accepted, gives, including in your president ial helicopter. No. So and to me, so hes just 45. Hes a lawyer in the pasta. But it has been politically, it seems, is you, hes credited with the reviving and by blissful position of to me just please in the past few years. Internationally. So many site is quincy dead, more wisdom leaning, then more non god bless. The analysts say they listed that these 2 didnt say of all the incumbents, jude, to support from staple guns like security and the judiciary, and many expect another disputed result. The contest, no, between pressed into non guard when to know so in check me. So its likely going to be a disputed dispute is it comes the one i start getting will be on the opposition to prove that jim vi did not lose the election if the all position with but fail to prove it. That will mean more of the same question about was people and many of them are struggling to advise it, but were not joined on the program by dr. Among any and see mind from the university of johannesburg. Thank you for joining us on the program. Now theyve been concerns in the past, over the electrical process in zimbabwe. One of the chances will see Credible Elections this time. Just before we have the c, c, c, which is the citizens question of citizens condition, which is the opposition party. Not having access to the registration for the voters room, which makes me sick and leave me quite so much, you know, intimidation, especially on a position for each the details, but uh uh, but you know, across the country and even into additional uh, the 4 digit code uh, for this post on 4 trips, i mean we, we, this, this happened some time must be written uh, most insurance. I was just seeing an email on the machine. And, uh, you know, we had this coming through trying to chase. So we were just away from the, from the and even, you know, uh gus was actually drove. So, you know, we have all these aspects coming up and it so, and she, yeah, especially for the Political Parties source. So, so what im getting from you is that we dont even need to, to, to look at what happens on, on wednesday to already see that the, the, the process is already skewed. The state security itself playing a major role in general to g d. C, a 5 digital participants as the reduce the radio suite, these and much reduce the fortune. So, um, so you know this, this, this order is compatible. Hes on a p as dna, jims or 5. Its in terms of intimidation. You know what its called, hutchins with that in mind, that has also been speculation that the incumbent m, as in non gaga, has left some some support since the last election. Are we saying that that would not be enough to, to present the major challenge to him in this vote in gigi is the most simple subsets list. And this is because of, you know, the rise of cost of reading and ration right, continued. Uh, you know, uh, conservation off of somebody to talk to each other and uh, you know, the basic intimidation of, uh, you know, ive talked to you this a 4 times which she parts the whole does. So we are seeing the same tactics that made it got to be quite, you know, popular individual being used by uh, images a m, as in, im not graduating this, this particular nixon is saying its a lot behind me. See, you also can do visuals, or do you want to occupy impala diction, improving the life of the general population of Small Schools in baldwinsville. Okay. Gotta bump any. Let me see. Mind. Got it from university of john. His book. Thank you very much. Was speaking to us, my jury is doctors are leaving the heading abroad in huge numbers in 2021. The World Health Organization recorded major. We have had just for doctors, for every 10000 people and already dire situation. But since then, things have lessened rapidly, and Nigerian Medical Association now says theres only one doctor, put 10000 people and thats left hospitals. Desperately short of staff. Ill take the one doctor who migrated to the u. K. In a moment. The 1st is dw flourish, who by me, who sent this report from lagos, gets the medical care in nigeria can be frustrating for everyone, as kenneth adelphia is doing the job he dreamed of for 2 years after qualifying his thoughts abroad, where he hopes things will be better when you see the son of live, you will have a you god, equally called for to solve yes, fine, at least i know im actually work, im giving out to the society. But some sites you have told me, i appreciate my efforts. And im seeing the box, im being rewarded. The feeling that many medical professionals have of being over, i walked on on the reward. That is one of the things driving them to leave in large numbers. They say the one to the system that not only pays them well, but also provides the right equipment as well. So comes from a family of nurses and doctors. Many of them leave and walk abroad. And shes planning to leave to go ahead. Okay, thats a very well, i think australia on us, somebody was crowding gets worse as Health Professionals leave. Yes, most people seem to understand why be cool . Why wouldnt they be able to get people also, you know, goals and such slides. Give me what the hell, what give you all feeling but on if you all know ok personality i will not want to be the people for me. Um you pharmacies and yes i get into a dentist so many patients in families notes. I have no food at all. You dont really give your best. So your stripe goes to as much as you can board at the end of the day is no, they appreciated, hes not, hes not. Hes got that could be not in librium environments to practice. Nobody wants to leave shoals of this country to travel abroad for that. No, the country is the uh, it is hard to come by. Even a private hospitals like this. We simply cons, keeps us stuff. Doctors tune the o u d g ones. This hospital if hes 63, im says hed like to walk less, but that a lot of stuff means his. These remain long. The size and very, very small, good advice on the board. The most is and dont those. I never way good in no way to train down for a few months. They are going to says the future looks bleak for young medics in nigeria. Guy it was. It is a co minds they yeah. I used to for them to go out because or decision or the country, but that should not be the case. Thats even the price to 2 of his own children who are doctors. But rather than taking over from him are working in you im not joined by doctor when you cause a lot, samuel you, when a youtube influenza and a medical doctor based in the u. K. Thanks for joining us on the w news africa. Now can you tell us why did you decide to relocate from nigeria to the u. K . I was basically just looking for Greener Pastures because i believe that practice in medicine, in nature, i was just getting a bit more hostile and i just wanted to be able to write. So that was the reason ive said to me that weve had stories from dr. The nigeria talking about long working as full pay poor working conditions. So im saying they even feel exploited. Is this something you recognize for so a 100 percent . Um the products in mentioned in nigeria, so like it was we were pouring our hearts into it and we werent really getting anything back in terms of renumeration or even recognition or basically just quantity of life that i thought was equal to the pool, i guess in their return and that was just definitely a major problem. So for me, with deciding to and whats been your experience and then you can have you found that what you were looking for that i saw things as significant as the best i had. But like the see the grass isnt always green on the other side, coming to the u. K has its own problems. And when you have the pros and cons with nigeria, then this is significantly better than major. For one, i dont have to worry about my salary being paid because i know that at the end of every month, im going to get my salary as long as i work. As opposed to nigeria, i was of the 6 months either got this stretch is no one carrying how youre going to see your family for the 6 months and youre still supposed to show up hours and smile and be happy, well being hungry. And i know that thats not something im going to do within the u. J. So that is already, well, its a pop. And that trend is still is still going on. People like yourself still leaving nigeria and, and heading abroad. But what would it take for someone like yourself whos, whos made this big move to go back to nigeria . What would convince you to, to make the move back as if im 1000 percent . Sure. That when i get, when i work, im going to get paid. When do i find 1000 . Does it show that my salary is going to be the same salary thats going to afford me decent life . And im also 1000 percent. Sure that my life and my familys life and security is increased to jeopardize that im more than happy to move about home. Because recently there was a story of the girl in the news was the medical doctor who died be because of negligence. And she fell down a flight. So from an escalator that wasnt working and she died. And that wouldnt typically happen in develop. Busy busy said do that seeing that im said to when i see that my life and the life of my family is in a risk because nigeria has its way of doing things. So call somebody, i mean just puts everybody else that risk. You talk about it and i do as a whole, i can even talk about 1000 percent a be needing to need to be convinced. So that shows that you still have a lot of doubt whats, whats it looking like . Not just for doctors, but even for all the people in other professions ddc. So all the people making similar moves like yourself. So yeah, i have a friend who just looks kind of like 2 weeks ago. And shes not even a doctor. Shes a lawyer. And she was doing pretty well in nigeria, but then again, you have to look at the voltage of so small, just about money is also about security. And what not just talking about global her. Um, in terms of mentors and were talking about data, data security, which is something that i seriously lagging nigeria. So thats why a lot of people, bessie jumped on movements at the moment that everyones looking to move out of the country. Visa factors that influence that decision, basic change. All right, thats good to hear your thoughts on this regular to speak to you, doctor, or you can console out samuel you one day. Thanks for your time. Thank you. Or for thats it for now. Be sure to check out the other story is got lots of content on d, w dot com, forward slash africa such as well for data being is africa on social media and well see you next time the vehicle i started to try to silver the key. Theres a silver supporting, the thomas told him i ordered for a 120000. 00 rubies. 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Malaria must not, so millions can live the, this is the double you using these around top stories. Us President Joe Biden has welcome to use japanese in south Korean Counterparts to a historic trial actual summit at the camp david president ial retreat. The 3 lead is a great to strengthen Regional Security and economic ties. The summit comes as tensions in the region, particularly with china and north korea around the rise relative, kept the west African Regional block acre was say is its ready to send troops into an agent