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That i watched, which was prepared by the studio, it was shown that the war between russia and georgia did not start in 2008, in 2000, in 1992, on the 93rd of the same day, even the hybrid war that we saw after that already a and in ukraine in 2014, this is the war that was called the hybrid war, the war of the green men, it happened in the early 90s, just like that , no one ever used this term, and uh, i remember the moments when the predecessor was the president who, in principle, had a great merit to the World Community because he was one of the architects of the collapse of the warsaw pact and the end of the cold war , here he was in abkhazia, Walking Around the balds, showing journalists the russian planes that loaded the georgians there when he was already gone and he was ready to fall for his colleagues, then he made him president and foreign minister, sent sent a message so that there would be no 11 to the georgian people and peace even then, er, when it was like its very strange, so georgians didnt even react, they were expelled from their former places of residence. It was a terrible generation in the early 90s, and uh, for this whole history that has been going on for decades, why do you think that part of georgians, in particular, im talking about the loyal government to russia i think im not completely aa i think they are loyal beautiful i think that ooo that part of georgia which is called the georgian government which is actually its like a summer moment of georgians, they and we remember all this is the flight of the last 30 years. Georgians were able to support the Russian Federation to some degree, but in any case, we were the first to feel this cruelty, and this is the cruelty of the russian occupation, and of course, in our generation, we are returned to this hatred as a dangerous and this is the dialog so that we will still return our former lands to ourselves and russia is very wrong here. This is the feeling that prussia is ours and we will return it so that it can be somewhere, it can be seen that as if because the georgian government is such a puppet, it can be that someone can accept you, that georgians think so, again, no. If you look at attitude towards ukraine and the ukrainian question, i will tell you that it is almost one hundred percent support and this is a boy and this yes, you see how many georgians are heroically fighting on the side of ukraine. Thats how we are today. Ask the speaker of the parliament of georgia, shaleva papuashvili, said in may that georgia adheres to the Strategic Policy of patience , this is a quote, how long can georgia adhere to the Strategic Policy of patience, and how can it turn out . We are talking about the government that is actually a messenger who comes from the kremlin , and a government that does not see the strategic goals of the georgian state in relation to the russian occupation. This is what you did, by the way, when i served as president from my country, we and the ukrainian delegations at International Forums in our positions. I was just there where we were agreeing on every word that we would say about the occupations that were happening, but now, again, we are in fact governed by a government that, through machinations, can now serve and serve russia, but in general it is impossible because when russia loses, it will definitely lose necessarily lose all your opportunities in the region. Thats when there will be a serious solution here. Its really cool. We cant stand like this. In conclusion, i would like to add that i really missed the phrase that mamuka was just saying to the little ones. He said that the leadership changes. The government changes. But the people remain, and i am very grateful to the georgian people for supporting ukraine in this struggle and for the fact that a part of the people, a large part of the people, as you say, almost all stand by us in this to the struggle of georgia, the president of georgia joined our conversation in the 13th and 18th years, a short pause and we will continue the discussion in two days, the price of fuel on average increased by another 59 kopecks , the a95 Consulting Group reports on this, how much longer gasoline prices will rise, how much can they rise for fuel in general, lets talk with the director of the a95 contlanting group, which studies the fuel market in ukraine , serhiy klinom, serhiy good evening, glory to ukraine, good evening to the heroes, glory to mr. Series of fuel increases and what to expect next in reality august started very actively, we see that we have the first week of august and we already have plus three hryvnias per liter and unfortunately , we now have every reason to expect that in the future the prices will be added, i think that about uah 55 per liter of gasoline and uah 54 per liter of diesel can already be said quite confidently. I think that it will be within the next week or so, maybe decades, and then it will depend on how the situation will develop in the world market of oil and petroleum products, which continue to grow that is, now the prices are pushed up not only by the return to prewar taxation , well, thats exactly how it is, and in fact we have not yet fully realized the potential that was laid by the increase in taxes. Diesel for 7. 5 liquefied gas 3 uah per liter and at the same time in july, we had only uah 4 for gasoline and diesel, respectively , we see that uh, well, this is a good dynamic and the month passed quite calmly uh, thanks to the fact that the big the networks had formed very good reserves in june and may, but unfortunately, the reserves tend to run out, and this is exactly what happened at the beginning of august. Well , it also caught up with the global increase in prices. Additionally , the dynamics of what will happen further behind the walls of oil in the world and how will this affect prices in in ukraine, many analysts are predicting that the price of fuel will rise to 90 per barrel. Let me remind you that at the beginning of july it was 75, and in the next few days, it is 85, that is, an increase of 15 . And if we recalculate this price increase in hryvnias, we will get that by 5 hryvnias per liter fuel and gasoline have become more expensive to purchase, respectively, this is also a very powerful, very powerful factor for further growth, unfortunately, now ukraine is at the peak of seasonal fuel consumption and as experience shows prices during this period are kept quite high because to expect a special cooling, so far i do not see such hopes, but again, there were precedents during the last year, uh, what happened and such that the price decreased quite significantly at the end of the jacket, and what will happen to the pile of wool, i want to remind you that the price is 50 , it is not new for ukraine, a year ago we had a gasoline price of 52 hryvnias per disc fuel of 58 such prices were maintained until the end of the year and accordingly for well it lasted for six months yes and accordingly hmm all these are quite high, they were integrated into the tariffs for transport in the production of food there products and so on, thats why i think that there is no such price today, which is now becoming high for us, and in the background there are former ones. But i think that these are already included in the tariffs and the cost price of a wide range of goods for general use , so i dont think that they have there will be some significant Price Fluctuations p serhiu thank you for this analysis serhii kuyun director of the Consulting Group a95 what is happening with the wall , they did not say that so far we are waiting for further price increases we have such a forecast lets talk about art now that it performs functions not only artistic and this one we will already discuss the topic with the singer, positive is joining us, i am very glad to see you glory to ukraine congratulations good evening glory to ukraine glory to the heroes is what i am saying, art performs the functions of not only art and you have a Charity Project ahead of you, i know about it and you tell me more well first of all, i think that now all the artists that i know for sure, you are the ones who have turned into volunteers. The first solo a concert in dnipro to which i invite everyone in dnipro bartolomeo and after that if you know denys hristov who travels, they always evacuate civilians this was the host and with him we are going to Donetsk Region for the first time and now we have decided that after september 9, after my concert, we will leave the dnipro, we will go to the Donetsk Region and we want to open a collection , we think that we will go to the military first. For the needs of boarding schools in the Donetsk Region so join us. Tomorrow we will open this collection together with denys. Well, just come, everyone who will be in dnipro on september 9. Come to the concert, too, on august 19, we will have an ambassador in childhood in lutsk. This is already such a big promotion that we started even at the beginning of the full headquarters invasion e. E. We started to make such an adaptation action for children of families of immigrants , so i invite everyone on august 19 to lutsk castle to the height of childhood. If you want to see many tiktokers of stars and just have a good time, get to know the children so easily dont ask in the context of creativity, but there are at least two of your songs. What have they recently released in my youtube music , at least, they always get into my recommendations, well, this indicates a certain popularity in my opinion. So, what do you think . What are you with . Do you connect this with the transition to ukrainian, for example, because the songs that were there before i didnt have them, for example, its purely my observation that you connect such popularity with a higher one. Well, i think for sure that i am an artist who has been on the blue for 20 years but im still a solo artist already im just a beginning artist i started recently thats why for me its also something new Something Interesting and i try to do everything in order to develop myself and i hope that people like it because ive always been in groups, etc. Time and glass mozgi and now im already alone, and thats why im really happy and im very grateful to everyone for their support, and i see a lot of very cool reviews about the fact that everything works out for me, because my selfexpression is correct its just starting now. For example, the song nebo nakhlyu i know what it has its own story, its not just about creativity, its true because when we invented this song, we thought about what proper mission it could do, and thats why we really remembered about the superpowers of ukrainians who are now doing everything for the sake of victory for the sake of freedom for the sake of love and indeed, for all of us and our soldiers, after all, first of all, it is love and love for our relatives and loved ones for our country, and that is why i have a godfather who is also in the armed forces and he told me a story about when he was with a boyar and five days from he had no contact with his wife, and the exact phrase uh, how many nights are you awake or silent, im going, ill hug you, thats exactly the phrase that we made from this story because he returned home, the woman didnt expect him , she didnt know anymore whats really wrong with him . I think that these emotions are felt by every woman , every family, when when our soldiers come back from the front or from the war, they all come back. Well , i think you expected that i can ask about this too the scandal that uhe unfolded regarding the statement about lets say about certain hygienic moments uh, you regret the fact that you then joined this conversation and said about uh, well, unshaven women. One portal, i said so, well, thats understandable, because the internet has always been like that , and so have i. All of them. The most important thing is that i really said it, i personally i think that each of us was there personally, as how he feels about it, nothing was imposed on the people. I understand that as a leader of opinions , as many people write in the comments, it was wrong, or it was really necessary to treat it more seriously, so i really i accept that this is my mistake in some sense, but all the same i say that after all, it should be treated like ugu dashol, because it was all humorous and it was really our personal eh personal eh there eh we have heard your voice and in this regard also sing positive and it is the expression of everyone who wants to, let them choose with you, but for these words, it is special. Thank you, the positive singer joined our conversation , which is a crow that brings victory closer, cheers can turn into a hot spot on the land , the waves of the offensive can roll, the air can become a wall of fire on the path of the enemy, military fire the naval forces of the armed forces of ukraine prove this every day by their own example. We are proud of you. Thank you. Glory to the naval forces of the armed forces of ukraine. They went into destroyed buildings, they didnt approach the mines, and when they saw them, so as not to touch them, they returned the same way, they called 101, the shelter in the Apartment Building where i live , is it possible to let a stranger in, so during an alarm, you can and should let people who do not live there into the shelter of the house, because everyone has the right to civil protection, even if the person is not familiar to you , everyones right to be safe. Hello, today we have hamerman destroying viruses, and in fact, one of its members is a journalist and musician, albert sokrenko. I congratulate you, panelbert. Good day. In fact, in almost every interview with you, they talk about what the name is and how the band came about. If you delve a little into this story, i will quickly retell it, it means the depressed sums of the soviet union, and in response to this, there is such a reaction in the form of creativity of this form, i deliberately choose the words of the form of creativity because somehow it is difficult to classify this band. You generally talk about yourself as a freak duo. That s what they call you. Thats what they call you. Okay, and you say that it was such a protest against systems well, okay, then they protested and about and what they are protesting against now , i wouldnt say that it was the father against the system, it was just a form of a form of some kind of, well, such gray mundanities erer rather postsoviet erer sums erer there in the early to mid90s h aa this city was so ere very saturated lets say so with the hop subculture ere well, we had such quite aggressive youth ere gopniks wallto wall district district here and somewhere in this world around the corners ere creative people and musicians with long hair were hiding. Well, it was like that lets say that this was a form of some kind of vivid living and reaction to this pressure. That is, it is like an attempt to express yourself, that you are reincarnated, live some experiences, express yourself in some way about what is happening , express yourself. Well, i dont think we had an idea, an idea. It just happened spontaneously. Well, its just that there are two of us with vova paholiuk, we are both prone to some kind of eccentricity, and thats why it turned out that way. Do you define yourself as a band that a Musical Group is engaged in music. Is this part of the action of this performance . Is there such a concept . First of all, the music is true , because if it was just a theatrical performance or some kind of performance or just an artistic performance, then thousands of people would not be singing our choruses for us even in the stadiums. The choruses of our songs well, not in stadiums, but na na at big festivals in which we participated. That is, everything is still based on songs with clear melodies with clear choruses. That is , these are some very, very strange songs, very strange but after all, they are at the core, and on top of that, Everything Else doesnt look at you, you feel like nonpunks. As far as i understand, you are often asked questions about how do you classify yourself in general, i see you. Thats the point, from the outside and subjectively, after all, you have some kind of protest the spirit of such rebellion, rebellion seems to be what it is, and thats why im interested to know how you feel about it, well, what are my plans , im a family man uh, with children and uh, with a settled life no, thats just all you say in a puffy skirt with pearls on your shoulders okay, thats normal. Well, these are stereotypes about uh about serious and familyoriented people lets say that yes, that they can be like that, and they can be like that, no, this is a way of reacting to the absurdity of life, rather, although sometimes it happens that life in ukraine and our absurdity, that we are sometimes like that we stand with the gate and think, what can we do in this situation, uh, how to surprise ourselves even more, or , well, first of all, i mentioned the rule or tradition of not repeating ourselves in costumes , that is, every performance should be something new, something 27 years, we did not perform a single concert in that the suit itself as in this all the previous here is one suit i will never forgive you you know this is a story that needs such a small small introduction er one of the first letters of the forums after the pandemic by the ua culture team to, of course, cover all these events, and i had an interview with her, stanislav asev, the author of the book the light path, about the concentration camp, isolation, and he also presented this very book. Of course, i read it on the train on the way from kyiv to lviv, and i im coming to your concert one of the evenings you perform with garbage bags at the heads of ugu and this is the moment when i realize that uh, i have a huge question, although before i didnt think too much about it, its what year, im afraid to lie about it before a fullscale invasion but again after all, we are talking about enough. Well, you are definitely from this artistic bubble. You are definitely in the context of what is happening here, and i have a question. Do you have a limit that you in your creativity . Because what you give you will not cross because at that moment i thought that you are crossing it, i will explain a little for our viewers, female viewers, why it affected me so much, because in slava sevas book it is about the tortures that are resorted to in the concentration camp, and one of the important, one of the important moments was the movement of prisoners just with garbage bags on your head, you dig. This is a matter of interpretation, because i didnt know about this book, well, that is , i didnt read it at that time, and this well, it was definitely not related to that book, you understand, so you have this here is the experience of such a traumatic reading of this books coincided with our performance , well, it happens from time to time. Yes, you dont have any pressure and what do you think about it, uh, is there any responsibility of an artist in front of his audience, that is, are you responsible for the consequences of your work . Well, probably yes if there will be any consequences such as er, which er, which will demand responsibility, i dont know criminal or some other, then probably yes, but you know, we are lucky with the audience , intelligent people come to us well, mostly mostly intelligent and educated and cultured and so on, thats why eh therefore, it is obvious in this regard, well, that is, no, well, you understand, there is our bubble. Yes, there are people who go to concerts who know what they are going to. They pay money for the entrance, and from time to time there are some consequences of our concerts, some visual things go beyond this bubble and well, maybe they are insulting or infuriating someone, uh, me, we, uh, well, i will speak for myself. I accept all the consequences of these uh, these uh, well, these events. I understand that our society is different, that there is a conservative part very conservatory aggressively conservative part and what for that can some fly in, i understood that. In this regard, well, i dont know. Well, its possible to cause some moral suffering to someone, but that too. So you see how it is in your case, we didnt know this, we didnt know this parallel. And it made you uncomfortable um, it can be unpleasant for someone because he simply doesnt understand the context, doesnt understand why, or simply reacts aggressively to anything that falls out of what standards are generally accepted here, we, well, how can we just throw up our hands. And accept the consequences, whatever they were, we already had them criminal prosecution and what. Only there was no, you know, in fact, here i also want to explain right away, i do not think that an artist or an artist bears this responsibility , well, that is, everyone really reads it as he likes in this. It seems to me that the artistic sense consists in personal reading and feeling of some but uh, why did this question arise in front of me then, because uh, hmm, i remember that in a few years, a couple of years, or even somewhere in the period of time when i watched this speech , uh, hmm, there was a discussion on the topic of humor or you can joke about everything, and since the genre of standup performances by standup comedians developed then and is also quite popular now, that

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