Transcripts For ESPRESO 20240703

Well, it is worth saying, first of all, that today we have two most urgent things in the state, the first is the achievement of our victory, the second is the safety of our people, as you absolutely correctly noticed, and today we all have to work on it together, this is not an issue of the state or communities , it is a common issue for all of us, unfortunately, on this issue we were not fully prepared for a fullscale invasion, today we have practically no safe territory on territories of ukraine, yes, we have occupied communities, we have deoccupied, frontline communities, such communities that are in the body, but can fly today to every settlement and even to the border with romania, so today we have to make maximum efforts to people had the opportunity to be protected, and for this both our association and our partners. Colleagues from the dss and international projects, donors are making maximum efforts, we teach the heads and representatives of local communities how it should be, how to do it, help through projects, repair , to build, make new shelters, today, first of all, this is a very important issue, and it is absolutely timely , the construction of new shelters for the students of our educational institutions, in a word, today there should be an elementary thing in the same bomb shelter, this, fresh air, full safety, drinking water, this, if there is an opportunity to make the internet and other things, that is very good, and we have to understand that our neighbor is not religious anywhere, and this is a question both today and tomorrow, and this is a question for the future , because. Well, i understand that in big cities, maybe in the capital or in kharkiv, there is an opportunity to go down to the subway somewhere, in small communities there is no such opportunity, and we have to constantly work on this, but there are some there are general indicators regarding the satisfaction, relatively speaking, of the needs in protective structures, there of the civilian population, in accordance with the needs of children in the educational process, as far as the existing sports meet the needs that exist. According to our population . Since, well, i analyze in a different way for myself, if there are many schools and educational institutions in the communities where a mixed Education System is applied, then these are the first, the first sign that it is not possible to hide all the students of these institutions in those shelters, which meet all standards, therefore, most likely , there are still not enough of these institutions throughout ukraine and we have to work on this, and today, and the special subvention provided for next year in the budget and this year, which is provided for training schools, is very relevant, and i really hope that by the end of the year we will certify and launch in our communities have a lot of such shelters and they will be really safe, comfortable and convenient and will help to increase the share of those contingents. Who can work offline, because it is not only about security, here it is also about the quality of education and everything, we must move to ensure that all institutions can 100 to have their students, those seeking education, but this still requires time and resources, mr. Oleksandr, when you talk about a resource, we are talking about a state resource, are there other options to look for opportunities, funds to expand, the number of highquality bomb shelters for that , so that it would be possible to safely wait out these enemy attacks, and i think that when , for example, there is a very complicated discussion in the country about the pdf, well, at the same level as the support of military formations, drones, there, medical things, others, all it takes to win is a question the construction of bomb shelters, shelters, where our citizens can save their lives in more or less relatively peaceful territories , is also clearly important, so it is possible that one of the directions of use of these funds could be shelters, but if we take my personal point of view frankly, then state funds, and the funds of our International Partners , and the funds of local selfgovernment bodies should be directed here, in a word, if we are talking about human life, here, it seems to me, everyone should work as much as possible and in the maximum possible volumes, lets put it this way, because in fact, there is still a lot of work to be done, most of those facilities that we tentatively consider today as shelters or storage facilities, these are the simplest basements, which still need to be worked on very seriously. Ive seen some of your very clear comments about the fact that the personal income tax is going to be taken away from the military, and youre adamant that actually that money should stay in the communities because it really provides just, well, them effective use, according to which in what directions can these funds be used now in order to strengthen the protection of the communities themselves from various external risks, what are the mechanisms for using these funds from the personal income tax from the military . Well, look, a 1959 draft law was introduced in the parliament on the possibility of spending money, purchasing by communities things that are intended for the military and then handing them over to them, because, to be honest, today there is no legislative basis, and Law Enforcement and inspection bodies always have questions for communities , who purchased, for example drones were handed over, thats why this project was introduced, but then i understand that due to the fact that there was another initiative, this pdf should be removed altogether, this draft law has not been adopted to date, our proposal, position is as follows we accept 9559, we make it possible to legally buy these things, and the resolution 590, which regulates the treasury service, for example, prohibits those things that are not typical today in wartime, er, maybe its building stadiums there, skate parks there, or Something Else there the roads that were built there, which is not regular, yes there may be funds, but there may be funds, but no, but these funds must necessarily go through local selfgovernment bodies, because the military very often turns to us, residents of our communities turn to us very often and ask. For help, today, the lack of funds in the budget is, first of all, the inability of communities to help their mobilized boys, and this is despair, and from our boys to local government bodies, this, i believe, is a negative consequence, another issue, we must also foresee the impossibility the use of funds for other purposes, and for this i believe that the cabinet of ministers is satisfied with resolution 590, there is another issue that specifically does not concern. The budget and the pdf, but its distribution, it is more related to, lets say, the collection of this tax, then it is a matter of not all communities having this tax, and therefore it may be worth it that this tax be distributed to all territories from where the boys are mobilized, that is, in fact, it goes after each military man, i do not know if the tax authorities have such an opportunity to do it now, but here is one of the options a solution where all the communities would distribute this tax to all. The territories would have the opportunity to help their boys, but this is the subject of a very serious discussion and we have until january 1 to discuss it, and i think that these funds should serve, defense capabilities, support of our military units, but should remain in the communities. Mr. Oleksandr, thank you very much for these explanations, i hope that they will really hear us and that these funds will really remain in the communities, i hope that your allukrainian association will provide such optimal approaches. In order for communities to develop and have various projects related to protection. Thank you for the inclusion, i would like to remind our viewers that oleksandr korinnyi, the head of the allukrainian association of united territorial communities of ukraine, was in the financial press, and when we talk about the number of bomb shelters, in fact, in order to become statistical data, the indicators are such that they are not the whole number population. We have a sufficient number of protected structures, as well as restrictions on bomb shelters and in schools, according to certain statistics, if we now we will see them, so, it is about the fact that with protective structures we can actually provide protection for approximately 46 of the population, and when we talk about the educational process, about schools, about kindergartens and so on, then we are talking about slightly higher indicators , but it is also not quite enough, in fact we are talking about the fact that the protective structures of Civil Protection in educational institutions allow to provide shelter for about 57 of the participants in the educational process , and that is why our previous guest spoke about the need to create such protective facilities that should be sufficient to meet modern needs, starting with wifi and ending with fresh air and water and other things that allow you to stay there for a certain time, and then join us Viktor Vitovetskyi joins us, this is the director of the department of Civil Defense organization of the state service of ukraine on emergency situations of ukraine. Mr. Viktor, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you. Good afternoon, in view of your position, as i understand, you have a direction related to somehow ensuring the integration of certain voluntary processes regarding expanding the capacities of communities with those bodies of the state emergency situations. Who perform firefighting tasks in Different Directions and i would like to start with a small touch, what is the Current Situation with the ability of the state Emergency Service, well, to fight fires quickly, because i saw information that there are directions where fire engines of the state Emergency Service are forced to spend an hour there to get there to certain villages, where there may be such, well , dangerous events related to fires. Well, i will say that the state Emergency Service provides response throughout the territory of ukraine, of course, but there are cases when indeed the Response Time exceeds the standard, is much more than 20 minutes, as a rule, this is characteristic of rural areas, therefore one of the priorities of the ministry of emergency situations, and in particular the state Emergency Service, is the development and assistance in the creation of local and voluntary Fire Protection units, which are, in principle, our as first assistants and where our unit, the unit of the state Emergency Service is far from the scene of the incident, as a rule, our volunteer colleagues arrive first and can start some initial priority work before the arrival of the main forces, the forces of the state Emergency Service, and when we talk about these volunteer units , what exactly are we talking about, when we talk from the point of view of technical equipment , number, powers, could you tell us what kind of structure it is in general, how it is integrated, well, into the life of our communities, using certain examples . I can say that it is integrated legislatively, and recently, thanks to the joint efforts of the state security service, the ministry of internal affairs, as well as the parliamentary corps of the verkhovna rada, it was possible to make changes to a number of laws, and by the way, this work continues, but those changes that in. Allowed organize the role, functions in more detail, powers of volunteers, volunteers are included in the response system of the state Emergency Service, by including them in engagement plans, the socalled forces and means, this allows the dispatcher of the state Emergency Service to engage our colleagues to perform certain tasks related to fire extinguishing, liquidation of the consequences of other emergency situations. Now we can talk about the presence of more than a thousand units of local and voluntary Fire Protection, and almost all of them are included in the plans for the involvement of forces and means and are involved in extinguishing, including fires, and there is also another important segment, which is carrying out explanatory work with the population on the territory of the territories where they were created. In particular, i will tell one figure, it will tell a lot, for example in the 22nd year, from the beginning of the invasion, the armed aggressor, the mentioned units were involved more than 11,000 times for departures and liquidation of the consequences of emergency situations, that is, we can imagine the assistance, the state and the state Emergency Service, in particular, which our volunteer colleagues provide, but these voluntary structures, what they are provided with, how much for. Usually there are people in one or another community, which speaks of the fact that such a volunteer unit has really been created, which can really effectively carry out the task, when there is a real fire, what kind of. A picture of such a volunteer unit . The typical picture is as follows, on average, somewhere around 10 volunteers, we would recommend in order to talk about a combatready, effective unit. Along with this, there are different situations , absolutely, some communities have a unit in which there are 47, for example, volunteers, some where there are 34, but if these three or four volunteers, well, very active, lets say, and aimed at the result, and they live by it, then , such units are also quite effective, so there are certain recommendations, but the situations in the state are different, it affects directly, or rather, it depends directly on which community, to what extent a United Society in this community, but i want to say that where such divisions are created, you can observe how much society is united around these divisions, around the tasks they perform, and this greatly contributes to such unity, namely in the context and precisely on the territory of individual communities, and by the way, what is primary is the creation of such units , or when there is an active community that solves the current problems there, then there are also such Volunteer Fire Departments, if the community there is more sluggish, then it is certain to achieve consolidation, the formation of such fire departments, is probably quite difficult, or some examples of the most such, well, such cool volunteer fire brigades, which have everything, including the most modern vehicles, good training and there , and really cope with such challenges, which our enemy sometimes brings to us. Everything depends on the people in the community, because people, well, this is the main thing, it is the base on which, in principle, the unit is built. Now i will deviate a little from the topic, now the state, by making changes again in the legislation , provides certain opportunities for communities to create subdivisions, i am talking about the fact that now the state Emergency Service, in particular, has the right to transfer equipment that we do not use. Now from the state to the ownership of the communities and this continues now, already transferred much more than 100 units of equipment, they are all transferred to the communities for needs of voluntary and local units. And at the moment, at the level of the cabinet of ministers, several hundred more sets of documents for such equipment, which were released as a result of the technical reequipment of our units, are being considered, both at the expense of state purchases and at the expense of unconditional humanitarian aid, which was very powerfully provided by our International Colleagues , partners and inter, governmental and nongovernmental international organizations, therefore, of course, there are different units, i honestly would not like to single out anyone so separately, well, if you if you insist, then i would name , for example, the Volunteer Fire Department in the village of dertsen, this is in the carpathian region, there are about 45 people on the register as volunteers and several units of various equipment for the appropriate response to emergency situations and events, such a community is very powerful, therefore, according to this principle, many other regions, cherkasy, rivne, kirovohrad, well, almost, almost all regions have, give an example of a positive experience in. And you mentioned foreign aid, i would like you to talk more about it told in detail, and about foreign experience, whether there are such volunteer fire brigades in other countries, how they are financed, how they exist, whether there is something that we should take as a basis, whether there are any things that are unique to our country . Well, of course, it is precisely the study of foreign experience and , because of this, the development of this direction has become such a priority in our country, in particular, the number of volunteers, for example, in the republic of poland, there are more than 6,000 people, that is, it is a very large community, volunteers, in germany even more, there more than 102,000 people, i can say that the response in these two, at least in european countries, is in principle carried out at the expense of. Voluntary fire brigades, and the units are state, corresponding, they function in a very limited format and exclusively as auxiliary forces , on the contrary in our country, the basis is definitely the units of the state Emergency Service, but we are developing a community of volunteers so that we can provide a joint, consolidated response in the state, and definitely our International Partners provide a lot of help directly to volunteers. Several projects are being implemented, in particular, it is possible to note among the partners who provide such powerful and systematic assistance. This is a usaid hooverva project, this is the International Solidarity fund of the republic of poland, this is the Un Development program in ukraine, and uh, that means the Eastern Europe fund, uh, other, other donors who provide assistance, i apologize if i did not mention anyone, but the main ones i called, this is systematic work that lasts for years, it consists both in the training of our volunteers and in providing them with combat clothing, equipment and firefighting equipment, there are such elements, in fact, it is already underway, in the republic of poland, for example, the training of the fourth group of 15 volunteers, three such groups have already learned from different regions of ukraine, and this work continues, and i hope that our International Partners see progress, at least we see it, it is reflected in the growth of the number of such units even in the conditions of armed aggression. I want to give another example, kherson oblast, a territory that was deoccupied, that is, you you know, completely, yes, the region was captured, everything was either looted, or smashed, bombed. To date, more than 10 units of local and voluntary Fire Protection have been established in this region. That is, it says that people understand the importance of timely response to emergency situations, mr. 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Program in which in which we talk about the fact that our communities should have more opportunities to independently fight the challenges produced by the russian federation, which directs drones, missiles at our cities, as a result of which houses collapse, fires start, and every community, as we hope, should have the ability to fight independently, in particular with the same fires, but do we have enough equipment for this, or is there an industry. Which can provide our communities with such equipment, thats exactly what were talking about lets talk in the next block of our program, and ihor nezhivenko, the commercial director of tovpozhmashinin, will join us. Mr. Igor, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear that you have been invited. So, i would like to start with whether we have an understanding of the general need of our state Emergency Service and our communities in terms of cars, what quantity is needed, what they actually have and where should we go in this direction . So, the first thing i want to say is that the need, i think, is best known by the employees of the state Emergency Service, the systems of the state Emergency Service, of course, we conduct our constant monitoring, follow the situation, because we are manufacturers of firerescue equipment, various models of various modifications, for various purposes, the need really exists, the need has increased significantly, with the beginning of the war between russia and ukraine, because the losses are quite significant, it is about 1000 units of firefighting equipment, it is destroyed or the affected fire stations are, unfortunately, losses among rescuers, that is, it is quite a big problem, the workload of the service has increased to a large extent and has increased many times, this is, firstly, secondly, their echallenges, the field of activity in the direction of not only extinguishing fires, liquidation, the consequences of bombings, demining was added, this is an extremely, difficult, difficult and dangerous job, that is, the challenges in the service have increased significantly, the needs have increased accordingly, these are the needs for both machinery and special equipment and various techniques, starting from city auto systems to endless machines for demining, liquidation of the consequences of fires, explosions and so on, in fact, we estimate the need for today, it is more than 3,000 cars, this is taking into account the fact that a large part of the fleet, a significant part of the fleet, fire and rescue equipment, it is outdated, well, lets not say, well, lets be honest, that financing, services. In our opinion, it was carried out according to the final principle, that is, the renewal of the park was practically not carried out, no deliveries were made, purchases, or rather, not fire systems, not fire ladders, or other equipment, or if they were carried out, they were minimal, minimal purchases, for now, well, time has shown that you need to be ready for these challenges, mr. Igor, you said about 3,000 vehicles , this is such an approximate need of the self state Emergency Service, but we also add the need of the communities, because before you i spoke with a representative of the state Emergency Service, who spoke about the fact that this movement is in the communities, regarding the creation of such voluntary associations that are capable of fighting fires, extreme situations, it also needs some technical support, that is, it means that in fact the market of fire trucks should be added in this segment, without a doubt, the community