By the European Commission for the opening of membership negotiations, we expect that they will be evaluated fairly, transparently, no additional demands will be made, and the atmosphere at this meeting shows that we have a Mutual Understanding with the party on this matter. The head of the German Ministry of Foreign Affairs, anna lena berbock, said that the European Union is coming soon. Will expand from lisbon to luhansk, this was the quote she said while talking to journalists. The future of ukraine is in the European Union, in our community freedom, and soon it will expand from lisbon to luhansk, with every village, with every subway that ukraine liberates, with every subway where it saves its people, it also expands its way into the eu. After reports that the interim us budget for next year does not include aid to ukraine, kuleba and borel also commented on this issue. In particular, the spanish diplomat said that aid from the European Union will not be affected by the us decision. The question is, is what happened in the us an incident or a system . I think this is an incident, and with a possible shutdown, the decision was made as it is. But were continuing to work with both parties of congress to make sure this doesnt happen again under any circumstances. I hope it wont be final decision, and ukraine will continue to have the support of the united states. We are facing an existential threat. Ukrainians are fighting with all their courage and capabilities, and if we want them to be successful, then you must provide them with better weapons and faster. In the end , both the ukrainian side and the representative of the European Union called the meeting of the eu council of ministers in kyiv historic and emphasized that such an event shows russia. The unity of european states in this war. Roksalan bychay, pavlo kholodov, radio svoboda. And then we will talk in detail about the historicity of the visit, what agreements were reached. Maria mezyntseva, deputy head of the committee on integration of ukraine into the European Union in the verkhovna rada, joined our broadcast. I congratulate you. Greetings, mrs. Kateryna and everyone who is watching us. Glory to ukraine. Glory to the heroes, thank you for participating, and i hope that you will also tell us behindthescenes details and decisions that arose at this meeting, so how can you summarize this meeting of the yes council of ministers in kyiv, what is its historicity . Well, we see that directly supreme commanderinchief president zelensky also spoke and led a large part of the discussions, minister of Foreign Affairs koleb, uniting around himself the ministers of Foreign Affairs of the eu led by josep borel, this is his eu Foreign Affairs minister. It is very important that the basis of the discussion was the president s peace plan. I will remind the tv viewers, it was voted in the framework of several resolutions and supported not only at the eu level, but a very important vote was the january vote in the un, in hennes. And it was 143 countries, including all partners from the European Union, and of course, moving along this plan , it was impossible to bypass various aspects of security, this applies not only to military, Historical Military aid, because the European Union did not provide direct supplies of weapons or finance training programs, as noted by mr. Barrel, for no third country. For all the years of its existence, today it is a continuation of not only training programs, but the allocation of funding for the Defense Forces of ukraine, europe is very clearly aware that we are not just we remain an outpost, a shield of the entire european project. Our existence is equal to the existence of the eu. The question of enlargement does not become such, you know, a cornerstone, so that everyone is already used to the fact that we are moving on, the status of the candidate country was granted in june, which is also incredible. The achievement of all ukrainian diplomacy , as well as the indomitable ukrainians, including the Defense Forces, because we see the correlation of the progress on the liberation of the territories together with the stability and growth of support not only in the military sense, we are approaching, autumnwinter heating season, it is very important that Critical Infrastructure facilities are more protected. Than it was last year, you remember the interesting statements that eu Charitable Funds and partners in the world bought all the existing generators in the subcontinent, it was really so, and now we understand that the regions that entered the hybrid educational process, the regions , which continue to help interlopers and have gained a Larger Population on the ground. They all need a stable supply of electricity, we will also remind you it is a historical fact that on the second week of the fullscale aggression, ukraine, having joined the energyrich eu, began to export electricity, this too, well, it was impossible to imagine it in a more peaceful time, because the war lasted nine years in general, but during the fullscale aggression, it was an incredible achievement, the terms, were the terms sounded there, perhaps on the sidelines, regarding ukraines accession to the eu, because president zelenskyi expressed hope that negotiations on ukraines membership will begin this year. Yes, i support this thesis of the president zelenskyi, and you know, it is very interesting that brussels has already decided that their government, that is, the European Commission, which gave us the task of seven, priority points for the legislation, many of which, the vast majority of which were voted by the constitutional majority in the ukrainian parliament, the government has worked out additional programs, for example, under item seven, this is the issue of the rights of National Minorities in ukraine, and the government has a separate program called united diversity, here we see that anticorruption initiatives were also reformed Constitutional Court and also many other aspects. I agree with the president and with minister koleba that we definitely expect the opening of negotiations in december. Most likely, all this will be finalized at the euukraine summit, which usually takes place in the capital. This, this is an interesting aons. And i would also like to clarify with you about who did not come to this meeting, what did not arrive. Minister of Foreign Affairs of hungary, this is expected for ukraine, but there was also no polish minister, what is happening between kyiv and warsaw at the moment, so thank you for the question, i will be very modest in my comments, we see that the election race is taking place, which will be finalized within the current month, it should not be considered as a certain negative or blocking, the representative of the ministry, is a representative of the conservative party, here you can rather refer not to the decline of ours, the negativity in our relations or other aspects, this is the preelection process, we analyzed the previous, such campaigns, everything always stabilizes as soon as it is determined, lets say, the distribution of political forces, and here. We dont need to worry, because the liberal government and the conservative government will definitely continue to support ukraine, not only as a neighbor, not only as the closest state, but also as a Strategic Partner for strengthening the Eastern European bloc of states, including the difficult situation in a country like slovakia, where you were also recently thank you, maria, i understand, but finally, very briefly, if possible, i wonder if you have any contacts between parliamentarians, ukrainian and polish, and whether they did not deteriorate at that time. I confirm for sure that they did not deteriorate group friendship between parliaments is working, and we will meet, i hope, with at least part of the representatives of the polish delegation in paris, next week we are working in strasbourg and i want to note that we are representatives of our parliament in both of them, that is, we cooperate with both parties on the territory of pariet, and they always support us, there is no split here, i think we will see it in the voting of the resolution, and there will be at least three of them on the issues of ukraine. Thank you, maria mezantseva, deputy head of the committee on of ukraines integration with the European Union in the verkhovna rada, was a guest of our broadcast. Next, lets talk about the situation in crimea, Crimean Tatars, Political Prisoners, who are being transferred from the occupied peninsula to russia, this was reported by their relatives to the correspondents of the crimea real project, namely the first deputy head of the mejlis of the crimean tatar people Nariman Dzhelal and activist Aziz Akhtemov the day before from sizo in simferopol was allegedly sent to a prison in krasnoyarsk in russia, and azizs brother, asan akhtemov, was taken to prison in the city of volodymyr, which is known as vladimir central. According to the requirements of the geneva convention, what is important about protection. Of the civilian population during the war, persons sentenced to the occupied territories should not serve their sentences outside the occupied territory. All three were accused by the Russian Occupation authorities of crimea of sabotaging the gas pipeline in the village of perevalny, not far from simferopol, which allegedly happened in august 21, all three received socalled sentences of 17, 15 and 13 years in prison and fines, the fsb of russia claimed that ukrainian intelligence was allegedly involved in the organization of the sabotage. The ughurs rejected these accusations, and the ukrainian authorities connected the arrest of three Crimean Tatars with the crimean platform summit, which took place on the eve of the detention of the activists and in which narimandel participated. Meanwhile, ukrainian human rights defenders have made public the names of 22 representatives of the Russian Occupation authorities in crimea, who are refusing treatment to detained crimeans. Their names were established by human rights defenders of the center for human rights zmena and of the crimean human rights group, these socalled officials ignore the state of health of Political Prisoners and do not provide them with assistance, and it is important that in this list, in particular, there are citizens, citizens of both ukraine who switched to the side of russia after the occupation, and russian citizens , these are judges of various instances, prosecutors, the socalled obbutsmen and heads of places of deprivation of liberty, failure to provide medical assistance to persons who are in places of deprivation of liberty is a gross violation of human rights, which can be equated to torture, say human rights defenders, and appeal to the ukrainian authorities with a call to include these persons in the sanctions lists. I will also remind you that as of september of this year, there are 186 Political Prisoners of the Crimean Tatars who are civilians, according to human rights defenders , 45 of them do not receive proper medical care in one way or another. Gafarov shiringa, which includes those Political Prisoners who need immediate treatment and do not receive it, and the list is named after the dead Political Prisoners, Dzhemil Gafarov and konstantin shiring, who died in russian prisons at the beginning of this year. Ryfat chobarov, head of the mejlis of the crimean tatar people, joins our broadcast. Ryfataga, i welcome you to our broadcast, and i want to ask you right away. And what can the phasing of Nariman Dzhelal and the akhtemov brothers to russian prisons indicate, in your opinion, what is this for the russian authorities . Well, you know, this is the practice of the Russian Occupation authorities, to transfer all Political Prisoners who are tried in crimea, or who are connected with crimea, after the verdict comes into force. To russia itself, to the territory of russia, and they scatter them around the prisons and at the same time try to place them and, well, so that it is territorially far from crimea, they are trying to do this, well, this is an additional and such an additional form of revenge, punishment, in general, this is a brutal violation of international. Rights, because from the occupied territories, if someone is convicted, we are now talking about an absolutely illegal, unjust, criminal russian court. But if it is accepted formally that it happened, the convicts should not be transferred to the territory of the aggressor country, but we understand that russia, it already, completely disregards International Law and Everything Else , it is clear that ties with relatives are being cut off here, it is for the sake of kicking back for relatives, because they cannot use the permitted visitation, those who are behind gratis, it is getting worse, it is practically impossible in modern conditions, when the activity of diplomatic ukrainians on the territory of russia is completely suspended in our country, that is , consular institutions do not work in our country , and it is no longer possible for our diplomats to visit citizens of ukraine who are illegally detained in russian coachmen, communication with lawyers is complicated, so everything is becoming incredibly complicated, refataga , i would like to ask you, how has the situation changed in the last. Time, when the strikes on Russian Military bases in crimea increased, did the pressure on the crimean tatar people increase proportionally , on people who disagree with the russian regime in crimea . Well, we noticed that after mass strikes, with such very, significant losses for the Russian Occupation army, mass searches and then arrests of Crimean Tatars were immediately carried out. So it was after the destruction of the military planes to airfields near vrivka last year, literally a day later, then such a powerful Ammunition Depot in the dzhonkovsky district was destroyed, and then massive such invasions of crimean tatar homes took place throughout the dzhamkovsky district, six people were arrested, but immediately after. Recently blew up the headquarters of the Russian Black Sea fleet in sevastopol, they began to look for traces of those who, as they say, led the Ukrainian Special services to this object, and once again walked around the houses of the Crimean Tatars. It was like that when there were explosions of the railway on the simferopolbakhchisarai route, so any uh , such, well, act, military, and the destruction of military facilities, it is immediately felt by the civilian population, but people understand it, because it is one of the mechanisms, how the russian occupiers are trying, well, to maintain control over society, and this is such a common method for them to increase repression, refanik, but i also want to ask about the list made public by ukrainian human rights defenders, there are the names of 22 representatives of the Russian Occupation authorities of crimea, who refuse to treatment of detained crimeans, human rights activists appealed to the ukrainian authorities to include these persons in the sanctions lists, why is this important now and what can such a sanctions list affect, and do you perhaps know something about the preparation of this list . Er, such lists are very important, i or my colleagues were not directly related to this list, we dealt with other criminals, investigators, prosecutors, others involved in the preparation of falsified documents, regarding citizens of ukraine, which later became, er, well, the basis for condemning our citizens, in in this case, when it comes to those who refused treatment, this is the category that also just needs to know that with the liberation of crimea , they will definitely be persecuted until they suffer, well, punishment for their criminal actions, i would generally consider it is expedient to expand such lists and include representatives of other spheres that serve, and in fact, they strengthen the occupation regime in crimea, in particular propagandists, and the crimea has appropriate channels whose employees, they are 24 hours a day, are engaged in such, well very crazy propaganda, and in this propaganda, a significant place is given to compromising, activists of the crimeantatar national movement, actually from the zhlis of the crimean tatar people, on these channels, these various crimean deaths are being propagated, i. E. These people and these lists as well, they should be recorded, unfortunately, i only have a moment left, but i want to ask you about 25yearold linie umerova, in december it will be almost a year since she was detained after crossing the georgianrussian border, she tried to return to the occupied crimea until sick father, now her case is classified, she is accused of espionage, she spent five months in a prison in north ossetia, what can you say about her case . Is there any hope that nerimazhlyala, this mrs. Umerova, is there, they can somehow be exchanged, perhaps, do you have any such information, look, we are not giving up our efforts to release Political Prisoners and are working in all directions, including with the leaders of other countries, we mutually agree on all this with the ukrainian state, and i want to say that in those lists that we are handing over, these young people how is it that there is such a passport amet, he was also like that when he was arrested a year and a half ago, and other people, including sick people, Political Prisoners, they are always on personal, well, special attention, well, special attention, but you know that the russian side so far rejects any proposals for the release of Political Prisoners or their exchange, their exchange for russian prisoners of war. But as you pointed out, they are always in the spotlight in the lists and thats about it. Thank you for joining in, talking about the situation with Crimean Tatars in crimea. Ryfat chubarov, head of the mejlis of the crimean tatar people, was a guest of our broadcast. And for the first time, since the beginning of the fullscale invasion, the National Bank of ukraine cancels the fixed regime of the Exchange Rate and switches to its socalled managed flexibility. Already from today, that is. From october 3, the official rate will not be determined artificially by the National Bank, as it was from february 24, 2022, based on the operation on the interbank Foreign Exchange market, this may lead to currency fluctuations, both downward and upward, they say at the National Bank , however, they will calm down, no one will let the hryvnia float freely, the National Bank will continue to control the stability of the National Currency and limit its fluctuations, not allowing either a significant weakening or a substantial strengthening, the regime introduced by us. Will apply to business, the National Bank explains, setting the Exchange Rate on the cash currency market, where citizens buy and sell currency , will follow the same rules as before. The National Bank also assures that they have well prepared the market for these changes, and explaining this transition to a managed flexibility, the head of the National Bank, andriy pyshnyi, compared the fixed Exchange Rate regime introduced on the first day of the fullscale invasion to medicine, which it is time to give up. I will remind you, after a fullscale invasion. The National Bank of ukraine fixed the Exchange Rate of the dollar at uah 36. 6 in order to balance the Foreign Exchange market in wartime conditions. Oleg penzen, executive director of the economic discussion club, joins our broadcast, i congratulate you and i want to ask right away, after all, you can really trust the National Bank here, that it primarily for business and that it will not affect the population, should we still expect some increase in prices in stores, including for the civilian population. Good afternoon, in fact, in the end you said everything very correctly, that is, by and large, i can only repeat more now, and in order for the audience to understand what we are talking about, look, the only source, about the essentially only source currency inflow into the country, it is currently macrofinancial assistance, because the general the volume of export operations is not large, and it is complicated due to aggression, therefore. When you and i talk about how the Exchange Rate is formed today, we must understand that the National Bank of ukraine actively participates in its formation , that is, it goes to auctions and sells currency from Foreign Exchange reserves, or lets say, the government comes out, in order to make social payments, it sells the macrofinancial assistance that is leaving our partners in foreign currency on the Foreign Exchange market on the Foreign Exchange market, well that is, in essence, one must understand that all this is to one degree or another manageable. At the moment, the actual rate is 36. 6. Undoubtedly, in order to ensure more hryvnia inflows to the budget, er, it is definitely much more profitable for the government to have the Exchange Rate a little higher, well, at least as it was formed on the cash Exchange Rate, therefore, in this situation, this, er, so called er, well, lets say so, a small relaxation of Exchange Rate controls will not in any way affect e, the currency market is cash, because it operates and exists by those rules that practically do not change, but as for the noncash market , indeed, it will be a little higher, not 36. 6, it will rise, probably closer to the level that is formed on the cash currency market, but it will give an opportunity to get more hryvnias by selling the same dollar, for example, to the government in order to generate funds necessary for the payment of social or other payments, therefore, in this situation, in the near future , there will be no fundamental changes in the currency cash market, and therefore it is absolutely necessary for people, for example, now grab some of your hryvnias and you have to run, buy currency, creating additional excitement, everything will be more or less predicted, especially, i repeat once again, the changes we are talking about now relate to the cashless market, the cash market as existed in the rules that existed yesterday, the day before yesterday, a week ago, and it remains so today, mr. Oleg, is it possible to predict now, and what will be, well, plus or minus, what will this course be . From today, when he was released a little, well, look, released, i repeat once again, cashless, and it will probably go up a little, that is, i think that it will not be 36. 6, i will think that somewhere today it will probably be a little more than 37, 37 with a small tail, and it will gradually pull up to the level that is fixed today on the cash market, i think that in the near future we will have a single rate, both cash and noncash , today cash is somewhere around 38 plus or minus, that is, i think that somewhere in a week and a half or two, maybe a little more, we will see an equalization of rates somewhere on this level, maybe he is even if it rises to 38. 5, uh, that is, there will not be such a significant, significant change, and there will not be a significant difference between cash and noncash, absolutely, so i want to remind you that the budget of the 24th year set the average annual rate at the level of 41. 4, but, come on we will remember the past years, we have a rule that the Exchange Rate that is included in the state budget is higher than the one that is physically formed during the year on the Foreign Exchange market, well, except for the 22nd year, because there were very big peculiarities there, and yes in general, it is so, so when we are with you lets say 41. 4, well, calculate that it will probably be a little lower, somewhere up to 40 , well, again, but it will be for next year, this year, i think, there will not be any big shocks for sure, and finally, a few seconds remains, but in the National Bank they say about the permissible fluctuation of the Exchange Rate. It is permissible to observe and watch again, it is permissible, but here you have to panic a little, no, well, look, i repeat once again, the National Bank is primarily discussing the issue of the cashless market, well, that is, you and i are not in Exchange Offices lets see, one more moment, the National Bank sells approximately 150 Million Dollars every day in order to stabilize the market, if it sells a little more, the Exchange Rate will be weaker, a little less, the Exchange Rate will be stronger, well, that is, look, everything is in the hands of the national. Of ukraine, it has a purely imaginary we will monitor our corridor in which all this will move, you reassured us that the situation is stable and under control, oleg penzyn, the executive director of the economic discussion club, joined our broadcast and we talked about the situation with the dollar Exchange Rate. I will remind you that the freedom of the morning is with you here in on radio svobodas youtube and on tv channel uso every weekday from 9 00 a. M. , to be precise, thank you for joining us. See you tomorrow, at the same time, see you, congratulations, news in the espresso teter, kateryna shiropoyas works with you in the studio. 29 shaheds were shot down by Ukrainian Air defense that night in the southern regions. According to the air force, the launches were carried out in the temporarily occupied crimea. Antiaircraft missile troops, Fighter Aircraft and units of mobile fire groups worked against the enemy onslaught. In particular, ukrainian defenders destroyed 16 drones in the sky over the mykolaiv oblast