Transcripts For ESPRESO 20240703

Carry out important. Work in international diplomacy, we also want to protect the head of the Verkhovna Rada today, friends, he will declare himself, he will be a lifelong pep, so can those people who by telephone right they call him all the time and tell him that they will also declare who to pressure and do, and iryna volodymyrivna, i really appreciate your concern for me, but unfortunately, no, iryna volodymyrivna, unfortunately, no, please, by position to the committee, thank you, dear colleague, i dont know who is feeding on what nectar , i dont look into anyones mouth, i supported your amendment to declare councilors, but let s figure it out, we are currently considering another bill, it is about peps, who are peps, these are persons authorized to perform functions states, these are the persons who do not advise, and those who execute, in fact, make decisions and sign them, i will tell you a terrible story. Secret, every president in this country has had dozens of advisers, and not all of them , as you say, fed on ambrosia, thank you, dear colleagues, please, lets move on, the 46th frieze, i dont insist, the 47th, what what do you want, lets vote them all, yes, fine, the 45th amendment. Gerashchenko, it was rejected by the committee, please vote for 49, no decision was made, the 51st amendment by gerashchenko and colleagues, rejected by the committee, please to vote, no decision was taken for 49, 50, 64th, 54th, yes, 54th amendment, authored by gerashchenko, it was rejected by the committee, please vote. For 50, the decision was not adopted. The 64th amendment authored by gerashchenko and colleagues was rejected by the committee, please vote for 51, the decision was not adopted. And the 92nd amendment authored by gerashchenko and colleagues was rejected by the committee, i ask you to vote for 48 the decision has not been made, lets move on 46 the frieze no longer insists 47 repina does not insist. Movchan does not insist on the 50th, goncharenko has already used the 52nd, then goncharenko used the 55th goncharenko also used his amendments, 60th, movchan does not insist, 62nd, batenko, does not insist, 63rd vlasenko does not insist, 65th, goncharenko does not insist, 66th babenko does not insist. With colleagues, 69th vlasenko does not insist, 70th mother does not insist, 71st batenko, with colleagues insists, 72nd. Mother with colleagues does not insist, 73 frieze has already used his amendment, 74th likewise frieze with colleagues used amendment, 75 honcharenko does not insist, 76 repina does not insist, 77 batenko taras ivanovich, does not insist, 78 vlasenko, serhii volodymyrovych does not insist , 80th, babenko, does not insist with colleagues, 81st vlasenko does not insist, 82nd goncharenko does not insist, 87th frieze colleagues. Doesnt insist, 90 movchan doesnt insist, 91 mom doesnt insist, 93 mom, doesnt insist, dear colleagues, im asking you to invite people s deputies to the hall already, i see that well soon be moving to making a decision, 95 and batenko doesnt insist, 96 ta frieze does not insist, 97 tkachenko does not insist, 98ma babenko does not insist, 99 tkachenko does not insist. 101st vuzhansky does not insist, 102 mother does not insist, 104th gerashchenko does not insists, 106 tkachenko does not insist, insist, please, a second , then, 104th gerashchenko, please, dear mr. Chairman, iryna friz, will introduce amendments 104 and 113, please, please, then first 104 friz, please. Thank you, mr. Chairman, i ask that you give me two minutes, and then put one of these to the vote, friends, once again, two minutes for two amendments are not put, there are five amendments, three minutes are put, two two by two is not put , then report one at a time, or take one minute, i think it is logical to report on one, then you will have the opportunity to speak twice, okay , please, then lets do the 104th, please, irina friz, yes, thank you, mr. Chairman, this is actually a technical correction, and i would like to appeal again in view of , who have already called on the hall of peoples deputies, before the vote, to listen to the need to declare and include in this bill, also from the socalled advisers of the president s office, you know, the article in ukrainian pravda, which is called the country of advisers, is no longer just a meme , is evidence of what we are turning into a country of shadow governance, more than 80 advisers of the president s office are nonsense, which are not declared and actually carry out in a shadowy manner in the administration of the state at all levels, we consider it necessary to declare and include in this bill, advisers of the president s office, so that people have seen who not only broadcasts from tv screens and on the international stage, but also directly governs this country on the ground, thank you, thank you, it was the 104th amendment, then 108 does not insist, 111th babenko and his colleagues do not insist, and 113 final amendment, also iryna fritz, one more minute, please. Thank you, mr. Chairman, dear colleagues, in fact we are turning into a country of false facades, we have an officially approved government, we have an officially elected parliament, but we have a bunch of advisers whom no one sees, we are turning into a country. Shadow management, this is an unacceptable thing , that is why we insist on the need for all advisers not to fall under the socalled patronage service, but official and public coverage of their activities, their expenses and their savings, because this is a principled position for everyone who is in this hall, why we are declaring, and the socalled remote only in a very shameful way appeals to members of parliament promoting declaration, advisers should also declare. The position of the committee, please, dear colleagues, after that we will proceed to the vote, please invite the peoples deputies to the hall , please, dear colleague, i respect your position, the only thing i will say is that we faced enormous resistance regarding the peps and the status of the peps, all convocations , any positions, for any years, we will still have a million councilors who will also become peps there, i do not envy these people and how they will react to your proposal , thank you, thank you, dear colleagues, please, please, please take your seats, and we need an amendment, amendment 113, now for a second, which, dear colleagues, is our final amendment 113, authored by frize and colleagues, the committee rejected it, please vote. For 118 decisions have not been made, dear colleagues, dear colleagues, i ask everyone to take their seats, i think that today will be one of of the most important votes that we are conducting today, dear colleagues, i want to remind you that in november and july of last year , the flag of the European Union was brought into this hall and it is here, i always emphasize that the flag of the European Union is not just a right. This is a big responsibility for you and me , including how we will move forward. I want to inform you that depending on the results of this vote, it will depend whether we will have the prospect of opening negotiations with the European Union at the end of this year or not . I understand everyone nuances, when it hurts everyone, when there are possible internal issues that i would like not to vote on. But i think that now all of us, the entire Verkhovna Rada, must pass an exam on whether statesmen are here or individuals who dream of their own interests for the future, i am asking you very much, this is a megaimportant vote, i call on all of you, please only the green button, the green button is our way to the European Union, im begging you, im begging you , dear ones. Colleagues, in order for you and i to do everything, let me do it voting is exclusive, i will announce, using article 28 of the rules of procedure, a signal vote on this bill, because we have no right to fail this bill, therefore, dear colleagues, i ask you to vote, who will vote and how, it is very responsible, i will put a signal vote on the bill. D. I ask the peoples deputies to vote. Thank you, colleagues, taking this opportunity, i put the proposal to be adopted in the second reading and in general, with the necessary technical and legal amendments. Draft law on amendments to the law of ukraine on prevention and counteraction of legalization of Money Laundering of criminal proceeds of financing terrorism and financing the distribution of weapons of mass destruction against politically significant persons. Registration number of the draft law is 9269 rd. I ask peoples deputies to vote. For 276 the decision was made, the law was adopted as a whole, congratulations, colleagues, congratulations, by fractions , please show, dear colleagues, consideration of the agenda items for today is completed, thank you all for your fruitful work, now i announce a break in our plenary meetings about the time and place of their holding, continuation. You will be notified in advance, together to victory and glory to ukraine. Glory to ukraine, dear peoples deputies of ukraine. In accordance with the resolution adopted by us on some issues of organizing the work of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine of the 9th convocation in the conditions of martial law, today we continue our Plenary Session. Dear peoples deputies, according to the parliamentary tradition, i propose to start the work with implementation. The National Anthem of ukraine, ukraine still does not need glory, nor will, we brothers, ukrainians, the will will fail, ours will perish. Illnesses, like dew in the sun, we, brothers, will prevail, in our page, soul and body, we will lay down for our freedom. By god, we will show that we are brothers, cossack. Body, soul and body, we will lay down for our freedom, and we will show that we are brothers, of the cossack race, glory to ukraine, dear peoples deputies. Today, ukraine is experiencing the 600 second day of largescale aggression by the russian federation. Every day, ukrainian cities and villages suffer from massive rocket attacks by drones of the russian army. Tonight, the occupiers inflicted numerous casualties rocket attacks on the city of zaporizhia, hit a residential highrise building in the central part of the city. Unfortunately, there are dead and wounded ukrainians. We express our sincere condolences to all relatives and loved ones innocently killed. Compatriots and we wish the wounded to recover as soon as possible. I emphasize that all those involved in this and other crimes against the ukrainian people will be found and brought to justice. Evil will certainly be punished. Dear colleagues, i ask for a moment of silence to honor the bright memory of all the soldiers who died for ukraine, all peaceful citizens, victims of russian aggression. Dear peoples deputies , in accordance with article 28 of the rules of procedure of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine , before starting the consideration of issues, i propose to hold a signal vote voting. I remind you that you must press the green button for and get these two buttons at the same time before voting ends, that is, before the results appear on the scoreboard. Dear colleagues, i ask you to take part in the signal vote. For 98 against six, it turned out, well, everything is as usual, dear colleagues, thank you, dear colleagues, today is the birthday of our colleagues, peoples deputies of ukraine, olena volodyvna. The servant of the people faction of serhiy kostyantynovich ionushe, the servant of the people and roman vasyliovych sokha faction, nonfactional. Lets congratulate the birthday people, wish them good health, fruitful work and new achievements for the benefit of ukraine. Dear people deputies, the list of issues that was preagreed upon by the council of ministers has been provided to you, but before proceeding to the consideration of their issues, i have two statements from the faction with a break, with a substitute for the speech, from the faction, motherland and the eu, gerashchenko, and after this from the faction, from the trust group and the servant of the people faction, lyonov will be herashchenko, please. Thank you, dear colleagues, the committee on humanitarian policy unanimously supported the resolution of european solidarity. Regarding the commemoration of our fallen colleagues, the people deputies of ukraine, our dear brother, mr. Barna, Freedom Fighter Oleksandr Marchenko and our ukrainian, serhiy slabenko. This is a very important decision, we have all been to the parliaments of Different Countries of the world and saw that in the united states, in canada, and in many other parliaments, there are museums, there are stelae, there is a memorial. The plaques are dedicated to those parliamentarians, members of the secretariats who died in the wars, and we have this tragic list of three deputies who gave most dearly for our principles. I thank all the deputies who are members of the committee humanitarian policy issues, and these are the representatives of all factions who unanimously supported this important decision, and on behalf of european solidarity, we appeal to the chairman of the Verkhovna Rada with a request that after the consideration of the budget, we put this very resolution on the agenda, and in the near future in the Verkhovna Rada a sign appeared with the names of our best deputies. There is one more very Important News that concerns the memory of oleg barne. He won the trial against the lying journalist of channel 1. 1, mr. Kaltunov, who lied to our oleg. And it was six months ago this decision of the court was adopted, the decision states that oleg barnas claim to be satisfied in full regarding the protection of honor and dignity. Six months have passed, no apology, not even from channel 1. 1 in the marathon, and by the way, the marathon is financed. Today from the state budget, this oligarchic tv channel , which belongs to the medvedchuks and other oligarchs, it is financed by taxpayers funds, there was no apology there, just as this journalist koltunov himself did not apologize to the family of the fallen hero. Moreover, it turned out that this gentleman is a deputy today in kyiv region from the servant of the people party. Colleagues, it seems to me that we should unite around the slogan announced by the president from this podium. Zelskyi, that ukraine should be a country of heroes, not of the abandoned, and the abandoned should apologize to the heroes. We appeal to channel 1. 1 with a demand to apologize to oleg barnas memory and his family. We appeal to the servant of the people party with a request that your colleague, your scum , apologize to the memory of the hero of ukraine, oleh barne, and we appeal to the chairman of the Verkhovna Rada that after at once. Voting on the budget for the 24th year, the resolution was supported by all peoples deputies, representatives of all factions , and here we thank the servants of the people, who make up the majority in the committee on humanitarian policy, please, then the floor is given to the peoples deputy lionov, please, thank you, honorable colleagues one of the important areas of recovery of ukraine, which were announced by president zelensky, is the new neighborhood policy. Every country that helps us in this difficult time deserves a new quality of relations. Among these countries, one romania is one of the real leaders in helping and supporting our country. From the first days of the largescale aggression, the romanian people stood side by side with the ukrainians. Romania provided shelter to almost 1,000 ukrainians, more than 3. 5 of our fellow citizens were able to leave to a safe place through its borders, and for more than a year and a half, a real artery of life has been pulsating powerfully on the ukrainianromanian border. Ukraine has the opportunity to export its products and replenish its budget. Thanks to romanias support, the ports are operating at full capacity dniester cluster. The carrying capacity of the grain corridor is constantly increasing. Then, as arms, humanitarian aid, products and other goods we need arrive from the romanian side. Romania is our reliable partner in the international arena. At the beginning of june of this year, president of ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyi and president of romania Klaus Iohannis signed a declaration stating romanias unequivocal support for ukraines accession to nato. Support for our integration into the European Union is equally clear. Our recent visit the president s visit to romania showed new signs that the cooperation between our states is reaching a new level, the level of strategic partnership. Which is evidenced in particular by the joint statement signed by the heads of our states following the results of the perevolin. This document reflects the key directions of strengthening our cooperation security issues, support of the peace formula, expansion of economic and logistical ties. Special sincere thanks to our romanian partners for increasing assistance in the military sphere and willingness to participate in restoration of ukraine. So, our president demonstrates by his personal example how to achieve a new quality. With neighbors helping ukraine. I believe that the Ukrainian Parliament has no right to stand aside and should support the efforts of the head of state. Thanks to the first deputy chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine oleksandr kornienko, the deputy group of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine on interparliamentary relations with romania and the head of the deputy group of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine on interparliamentary relations with the republic of moldova, we initiate the beginning work on the creation of an Interparliamentary Assembly of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine with the chamber of romania and the parliament of the republic of moldova. I am convinced that now is the time to start the practical implementation of this initiative. Thank you for your attention. Thank you, dear colleagues, we have finished, there will be no more proposals to make speeches, a break, a replacement for a speech, there will be no, thank you, then, dear colleagues, lets go, we will move on to consideration of the agenda items, and today we have the budget, the budget for 2024 year, dear peoples deputies, lets move on to the consideration of the draft law of ukraine on the state budget of ukraine for 2024 Registration Number 1000 in the first reading, which was presented at the Plenary Session on september 20, 2023, in accordance with article 157 of the regulations of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine, consideration of issues is carried out according to the procedure of full discussion, in accordance with the provisions of the regulations of the committee proposal, it is proposed the next procedure of this issue, consideration, report of the committee of the chairman of the committee on budget of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine up to 5 minutes, the answer of the chairman of the committee to the question of minutes, the speech of the minister of finance of ukraine up to 5 minutes, the speech of the acting chairman of the Audit Chamber up to 5 minutes, the speeches of the representatives of the parliamentary factions of the groups up to 24 minutes, 3 minutes per speech, the speeches of peoples deputies up to 6 minutes, the adoption of a decision in total for discussion up to 55, please artur volodymyrovych, the procedure, what do you have . Dear ruslan oleksiiovych, the procedure for a full discussion with specifics, which , if im not mistaken, are set out in article 157 of the regulations of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine. The only a few points, i want to inform you, and as far as i know, you have already received a letter on this topic, that a representative of the Main Committee can also speak with a separate opinion, according to the full discussion procedure, article 30, and Oleksiy Goncharenko will do it on our behalf. Member of the budget committee. Second point, big request, too. To ask 9 minutes of questions to the minister of finance of ukraine, because there are 9 minutes of questions to the representative of the committee, but there are no nine minutes of questions to the minister of finance, and her last, very important, only six minutes for speeches peoples deputies, please allow 15 minutes for the speeches of the peoples deputies, so i summarize, 15 minutes for the speeches of the peoples deputies, add 9 minutes for questions to the minister of finance and inform about the speech with a separate opinion. Thank you, artur volodymyrovych, i answer all your questions. Everything is correctly said, which is considered under article 157, with the features that are provided for, but in the procedure of a full review. Those two other issues that you are talking about, additional issues and speeches, it is not in the 157th, and therefore, i think that it was wrong violation, and as for the speech of peoples deputy honcharenko, indeed. Part three, paragraph three, part one of article 30 of the regulation, says that speeches of peoples deputies, members of the Main Committee with the announcement and consideration of a separate opinion are allowed, if it was not provided to the peoples deputies together with the conclusion of the relevant committee. I report to you that the dissenting opinion was submitted only this morning, and therefore it could not be valid, it was not heard in committee, there was no action on it there are no questions, so i think we will move on, please, artur volodymyrovy, what are your procedures, dear ruslan oleksiyovych, in the regulations of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine there is not a single word when this dissenting opinion is submitted, none, there is only that whether it was distributed or not distributed to the peoples deputies, full stop, so please follow the regulations and give a 3 minute speech with a separate opinion regarding this budget. Thank you very much, i refer you once again to article 30, where the full procedure is provided, which reads as follows, if it was not provided to the peoples deputies together with the opinion of the relevant committee, when the opinion of the committee was provided, she was simply physically not there, therefore, dear colleagues, we will proceed with this procedure, we will proceed to consider the question of who she is, once again, she was not there at the moment could be physically provided. A separate opinion is a separate opinion that is mediated by a separate act, a separate act of a peoples deputy. This act at the time of consideration, at the time of the decision, could not be adopted, so thats the end, dear colleagues. Lets move on to the consideration question. Roxelana andriivna pidlas, head of the Verkhovna Rada of ukraines budget committee, is invited to give a report on the conclusions and proposals and results of consideration of the draft state budget. Roxelana andriivna up to 5 minutes, please. Good afternoon, dear peoples deputies, dear members of the presidium, today we