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Killer has been given 100 grand in legal aid, apparently. So can it really be true that you and l, it really be true that you and i, the taxpayer, are paying for this guys lawyers . Absolutely shocking. But this is something shocking. But this is something that affects everybody. Its that affects everybody. Its Interest Rates. They have risen again, really . Can we trust the again, really . Can we trust the people in charge of our economy to get us out of it at the moment . How is this affecting ordinary people, the pound in their pocket . It matters to us all. And were also to be all. And were also going to be discussing this well. Discussing this as well. So ukrainian know, ukrainian refugees, you know, actual and children actual women and children who are actual war . Well, are fleeing an actual war . Well, apparently they could be booted out of britain soon. But of course, if you happen to be a young, virile chap coming across the channel in a dinghy, well, well roll out the red carpet for you. Is there nothing that we wont do to accommodate channel migrants Patrick Christys. Gb news. Gb views. Christys. Gb news. Gb views. Gbnews. Com do you think that politicians homes should be out of bounds for protesters . Were of bounds for protesters . Were going to be discussing all of that. Its a fast moving story. Well keep you up to date with every little bit it. Every single little bit of it. But right it is your but right now it is your headunes but right now it is your headlines as. Good afternoon. Its 3 02. Your top stories from the newsroom. The bank of england has raised its Interest Rate for the 14th time in a row. Its increasing from 5 to 5. 25, the highest base rate since 2008. The bank says it expects inflation to be halved by the end of the year. One of the governments key priorities , the governments key priorities, the increase piles yet more pressure on borrowers, mortgage holders and struggling households. But the governor of the bank of england says he expect inflation on the price of goods to ease core goods. Price inflation continues to be broad based. Its taking time be broad based. Its taking time for the fall in Energy Prices to work through the supply chain and the prices of imported goods have continued to rise despite a fall in world export prices. And fall in world export prices. And thats why in our central projection, we expect core goods Price Inflation to come down gradually. But let me be clear. Gradually. But let me be clear. We do expect core goods inflation to ease over the rest of the year and there are indicators that suggest it could happen faster than in our projection. Projection. While shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves says the government needs to take action how. Now. Well, the rate rise that weve seen today is just another hammer blow to families across the country who are seeing their mortgages increase when it comes to remortgaging, at the moment, a family thats looking to remortgage their property is going to be paying on average more than £200 extra every single month. And for some people, its much more than that. Now, of course, the bank of england have independence and thats should be. But the thats as it should be. But the government needs to take responsibility the fact that responsibility for the fact that inflation the uk is much inflation in the uk is much higher than it is in comparable countries. Meanwhile high street countries. Meanwhile high street retailer wilko has warned its on the brink of collapse , on the brink of collapse, putting around 12,000 jobs at risk. Risk. The boss of the homeware chain says it expects to go into insolvency after failing to secure a takeover order to help the business. With mounting cash pressures. Wilko which has about 400 uk stores, has filed a nofice 400 uk stores, has filed a notice of intention to appoint administrators at the high court. Crawley residents are disappointed by the news as its very bad , very bad. Very bad, very bad. Its a shame. Its a shame. Its a shame. What do you thinks gone wrong . Goodness only knows. Goodness only knows. Goodness only knows. I went to uni. I went to uni. I went to uni. I actually shopped here so i think it could be management error management mistakes. I dont know. Walking round. I dont know. Walking round. I dont know. Walking round. Wondered if that was the i wondered if that was the case. Why . Why . Why . Its just so empty. Its just so empty. Oh, thats devastating because i. I do a lot of shopping here because theyre very good, actually. You know, very good, actually. You know, the thing ive found here, i couldnt find it in bank. The four greenpeace activists that climbed onto the roof of the Prime Ministers home in North Yorkshire have been arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage and public nuisance. Damage and public nuisance. A fifth person has also been arrested on suspicion of causing arrested on suspicion of causing a public nuisance and remains in police custody. Theyd been protesting. Against 100 new protesting. Against 100 new nonh protesting. Against 100 new north sea oil and gas licences granted by rishi sunak, who says he wont apologise guys for supporting the exploration on the activists scaled the pms house this morning, draping it in black fabric to drive home what they call the dangerous consequences of the policy. Deputy Prime Minister Oliver Dowden has defended the governments plans. Most people would say, can you stop the stupid stunts . Actually what they want to see from government is action. The question is, do we produce it here where we get more tax, we create more jobs, or do we do what the labour party and others say, which is say no more investment in our north sea oil and gas. That means fewer jobs and gas. That means fewerjobs here and more reliance on less Stable Energy which is shipped into this country. I dont think thats a sensible approach and its not one this government is going to take. Alex wilson from greenpeace says the Prime Minister needs to choose a side. Choose a side. Were all here because rishi sunak has opened the door for a new drilling frenzy in the north sea. While large parts of our world are literally on fire, this will be a disaster for the climate. It wont lower your climate. It wont lower your energy bills. Its not going to energy bills. Its not going to boost our Energy Security. The boost our Energy Security. The only people that are going to profit from this at all are the big oil companies. The deputy Prime Minister says Asylum Seekers will be on the bibby stockholm barge in the coming weeks. The first group of migrants was originally scheduled to move into the controversial accommodation in dorset on tuesday. The delay was dorset on tuesday. The delay was caused by issues surrounding the health and safety of port workers, not fire safety. Oliver dowden says hes confident the problems can be addressed after firefighters warned the vessel was a potential death trap. And was a potential death trap. And the science secretary has accused a labour mp of misleading the public after he shared a fake image of the Prime Minister. Mp for hull east karl turner posted a doctored picture showing rishi sunak at a beer festival with a badly pulled pint and a woman seemingly looking on disapprovingly. Looking on disapprovingly. Michelle donelan has described sharing the deep fake image pretty desperate stuff by laboun pretty desperate stuff by labour, but turner later said he didnt realise the image was a fake. This is gb news across the fake. This is gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on digital uk on tv in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by simply saying play gb news now its back to. Patrick well now its back to. Patrick well, look, welcome along everybody. A heck of a lot to get through today. I am starting with nothing is off with this. Nothing thing is off limits for eco activists is limits for eco activists and is it time that we class some of them as eco terrorists . Today them as eco terrorists . Today greenpeace went round to the home of serving Prime Minister rishi sunak, broke onto his property , climbed his walls, sat property, climbed his walls, sat on his roof. Well, its been well documented that rishi sunak is on holiday with his family at the moment, but that is not the point at all. They didnt know who could have been in there if there might have been kids, elderly would have elderly relatives, it would have been absolutely terrifying. Now, i care how passionately i dont care how passionately you feel about something , you you feel about something, you have to invade have no right to invade somebodys property. Politicians homes should be off limits. So should their limits. So should their weddings. Even if it is george osborne, have no osborne, this lot have no limits. What next . A christening. Prince Georges School sports day funerals. As School Sports day funerals. As i think groups who commit actions like this could legitimise be classed as terrorist organisations. The cps is terror definite action includes endangenng definite action includes endangering a persons life other than that of the person committing the action, creating a serious risk to the health or safety of the public, or a section of the public. Look, my concern is that people like this will keep getting bolder and bolder and bolder, and the psychology of some of these people is absolutely primed and ready to go for a serious attack. I regularly interview the Just Stop Oil protesters , the Just Stop Oil protesters, for example, who hysterically scream about why they wont have children. Because unless we act now , the world is going to end. Now, the world is going to end. A lot of them are fanatics who do not believe anything is off limits because we are facing a doomsday scenario. Dont be doomsday scenario. Dont be fooled by some smiling vegans, some stunts are a form of mafia style intimidation. Even if you style intimidation. Even if you dont do what we want, we will turn up to your house and send you a message. If you dont do what we want, we will ruin your wedding. And like i said, they will keep getting more extreme. But what they have done is expose a gaping flaw in our National Security. Can you National Security. Can you imagine this happening at us president s home that have been shot on sight, wouldnt they, before scaling the garden fence . The same goes for french president emmanuel macron. It president emmanuel macron. It was reportedly our eyes before the police were really alerted or attended to this. Then hours later , they managed to talk later, they managed to talk these numpties down. I worry that we have just served up a green light to other fanatics to go and attack whoever they want , turn up at a celebrity or a politicians house. Therell be no there. The police no security there. The police wont be there for hours. Just have at it. You remember david amis death while amis stabbed to death while doing a public surgery . Jo cox, killed in street. Could look killed in the street. Could look at the actions of greenpeace and others like them and be more likely to commit atrocities. These eco zealots rely on the British Public being decent and not battering them. They rely on soft british justice all too often to let them just carry on with it. And yet they dont behave like they actually have any sense of british decency or values themselves. Values themselves. Vaiews gbnews. Com. Lots of strong views coming in this already, which i will read out in a second, but im going to go straight to our home and security editor mark white. He joins me in the studio now. And mark, you have mark, i believe you do have a little breaking for us. Us. Yes. Over this issue of whether there was a slow response from North Yorkshire police this morning because he said that swiftly responded said that the swiftly responded. At 806 this morning to reports of these eco activists on the roof of the Prime Ministers house, as greenpeace had earlier indicated, that they might have been up there quite a bit earlier. Been up there quite a bit earlier. Weve just spoken to greenpeace now theyve confirmed to us that their activists went on to this property at 605 in the morning , on to this property at 605 in the morning, 605 in the morning. And in fact , the press officer and in fact, the press officer that we were speaking to was quite incredulous themselves that they could have been on the site as long as they were without any Police Response. We without any Police Response. We need to get clarification , of need to get clarification, of course, from North Yorkshire police , whether that is their police, whether that is their understand thing. But taking it at face value from what greenpeace s tell us and they have the video clearly and the pictures to prove that they were up there early on and the word of four activists who were on the site as well. There are absolute. Whats the word im absolute. Whats the word im looking for there . Absolute the fact that they were on the fact that they were on there for so long basically is the thing, isnt it really . And that even greenpeace, from what you were surprised at were saying, are surprised at how long it took the police to act. Act. Yes. No, absolutely. They are determined to get across this fact from their point. Is there undying belief that they were on that building at 6 or 5 in the morning and it took two hours before the police turned up . So, before the police turned up . So, as i say, some serious questions for North Yorkshire police to answer on this, especially as they made a point in their release of saying there was a Swift Response we should also say that there has now been a fifth arrest in connection with this. A fifth person was this. A fifth person was arrested , not having been on the arrested, not having been on the roof. Apparently but nearby on suspicion of causing a public nuisance. Nuisance. Okay. Look, mark, stay there for me if thats all right. I believe that we might have a little bit of a clip now to play for you of what happened earlier on. So just have a look at this and then well react to it. And then well react to it. Were here because rishi were all here because rishi sunak has opened the door for a new drilling frenzy in the north sea while large parts of our world are literally on fire, this be a disaster for the this will be a disaster for the climate. It wont lower your climate. It wont lower your energy bills. Its not going to energy bills. Its not going to boost our Energy Security. We boost our Energy Security. We the only people that are going to profit from this at all are the big oil companies. Well, if that doesnt inspire you, then i dont know what will. A long standing career as an after dinner speaker no doubt awaits whatever gender that person was. But mark, this has opened up a can of worms when it comes to security, hasnt it . Comes to security, hasnt it . Yes, because i think it it seems that you know, no one could actually ever imagine a scenario where in the united states, not just the president , but the Vice President and senior government ministers in america would ever have any of the properties that they own and visit. That wasnt guarded by the secret service. The same with the Prime Minister of france or any other World Leaders of any import would absolutely have this kind of security regard of whether they were in residence or not, because the end of the day , just because the end of the day, just because the end of the day, just because youre not in residence doesnt mean that your property isnt under threat of, at the very least, being damaged, but also people that might go in also of people that might go in there for more nefarious intent actions such as planting bugs, other listening devices , or even other listening devices, or even booby traps. Absolutely mark, thank you very much. Mark white there. Our Homeland Security editor. Im going to whiz it on over to the whiz it on over now to the former met officer graham former met Police Officer graham watson. Thank you very watson. Graham, thank you very much for joining watson. Graham, thank you very much forjoining me. My overarching concern with this is that this has provided a green light for any nefarious state actors who now are under no illusions that if theyd wanted to, they could have just wandered into our Prime Ministers family home and planted any kind of listening device. But also just actual terrorists who now, i believe, will be thinking , well, actually will be thinking, well, actually the properties of politicians are pretty easy to access. Lets have a go on it. Yeah , i can see where youre yeah, i can see where youre going with that. And i agree. Whats surprising for me is that there is nothing at the Prime Ministers Residential Home that either activates or notifies the police when Something Like this happens. I mean, the timeline that mark explained two mark just explained there, two hours going to hours from greenpeace going to on the police, swiftly reacting when theyre made aware of it does quite strange that does seem quite strange that they before they werent aware of it before at 6 00 actually at 6 00 when it actually happened. Green peace protests are normally very, well are normally very, very well organised. Managed. Organised. Theyre well managed. Theres normally a ground team that are to secure the that are there to secure the area for their protest team. Theyre very theyre normally very experienced climbers , so they experienced climbers, so they would have all the safety equipment, all the ropes, the harnesses that you can see on your pictures. So theyre normally very, very well organised. But having said that, a police that, they fully expect a Police Response to be a lot quicker and theyre ready for you when you turn done a few of turn up. Ive done a few of these in london. They climbed big of years ago big ben a number of years ago and they were ready for when and they were ready for us when we its we turned up. So its astonishing this they could astonishing that this they could actually this actually get on to this property. And the police were not this two hours. Not aware of this for two hours. Look, great when it comes the look, great when it comes to the law. You guys, Police Officers have to enforce law have to enforce the law sometimes. I feel very, very sorry hands sorry for you because your hands are actually quite often. Are tied actually quite often. Quite we are dealing quite often. But we are dealing now with groups of people, eco warriors for whom nothing is off limits because of the psychology of it. If you believe that we are genuinely hurtling towards a doomsday scenario where there will be no world on future and no place for children to live and grow up, then actually that can justify mentally for people doing anything in a very similar way to islamic jihadis , actually way to islamic jihadis, actually in a very similar way, who believes that they are just serving a divine higher power and that that is Carte Blanche for them to go and do anything else. Do we need to start reclassifying some of these eco groups in light of the fact that they are getting more and more bold . Bold . I dont think theyve quite theyve crossed the line yet to become terrorist group as become a terrorist group as such. You read the such. And you read the definition the same. Dont such. And you read the definiwere the same. Dont such. And you read the definiwere there same. Dont such. And you read the definiwere there yet. 5. Dont such. And you read the definiwere there yet. Butiont think were there yet. But by the same token, i completely agree with what youre saying. They taking they are actually taking this beyond the realms of what policing law set policing and what the law is set up now going up to prevent. Theyre now going towards peoples home addresses. You wedding earlier you mentioned a wedding earlier on your theyre almost on in your intro. Theyre almost like ing, a line that like overstep ing, a line that was drawn by by the law and by policing. And theyre going policing. And theyre going beyond this now. And youre right to, say, right to flag this up to, say, other may see this other groups may see this and see opportunities. And this is see opportunities. And this is why when youre policing these events, try to explain events, you try to explain to them stepped them actually youve stepped over this this, over a line here. This this, you know, be doing know, you shouldnt be doing this. Groups have this. Other protest groups have targeted peoples home addresses. Animal addresses. The Animal Rights movement few Years Movement did this a few years ago, was legislation ago, and there was legislation brought in to those brought in to prevent those sorts happening. We sorts of things happening. We might revisit that again might need to revisit that again for protest for other types of protest groups theyre going to carry groups if theyre going to carry on with actions like this that target peoples home addresses. You what does . You know what it does . It democracy. It ruins it ruins democracy. It ruins democracy because now when politicians want to have surgeries with the public, weve already had david amess. Weve already had david amess. Weve already had david amess. Weve already had jo cox and now now when politicians want to do that or want to go to anywhere at all or want to go to anywhere at all or theres any kind of major event, security has to get event, the security has to get beefed up ring around our beefed up the ring around our quote unquote elite or elected officials. However, people want officials. However, people want to refer to them and the public who they are supposed to represent , that direct democracy represent, that direct democracy can very easily get squashed because, again, Police Officers, as they would have to do as part of their job, will be having to dish out advice now, saying , dish out advice now, saying, well, in light of all of this stuff taking place in order to keep safe , well, youve keep you safe, well, youve probably to take a backward probably got to take a backward step from the public. Youve got to have more of a ring of steel around you. Is bad for around you. It is bad for democracy. Yeah, i agree. I think and again, for this incident itself, it what security it depends what security arrangements are in place as to whats breached. But whats been breached. But clearly there appear to clearly there doesnt appear to be much security at its be that much security at its home address that will now be reviewed, as reviewed, urgently reviewed as will other members of parliament, other members of government. You government. How far do you extend security reasons . Extend these security reasons . Do is it just the pm or do you go . Is it just the pm or is Energy Minister . The is it the Energy Minister . The roads on and so roads minister, so on and so forth . These protection forth . And these protection arrangements significant arrangements take a significant amount resources the amount of resources for the police to meet. Police to meet. Its going be everyone. It its going to be everyone. It could be, it could be absolutely everybody. Know, they are everybody. You know, if they are willing things like this. Willing to do things like this. And it sickens me. They and again, it sickens me. They go, we knew that wasnt go, well, we knew that he wasnt in publicised in there because hes publicised the that hes holiday. The fact that hes on holiday. Well, know whats well, you dont know whats going at his house. You dont going on at his house. You dont know elderly know if theres elderly relatives there. You relatives around there. Can you imagine waking up in the morning to scaling the front to see someone scaling the front of your house, attaching themselves to your roof or whatever that theyre whatever it is that theyre doing . You would be absolutely terrified. Im sorry, but certain to be off certain things have to be off limits. They to be off limits. They have to be off limits. They have to be off limits. Otherwise you must face certain consequences. Look, limits. Otherwise you must face certairyoursequences. Look, limits. Otherwise you must face certairyou veryiences. Look, limits. Otherwise you must face certairyou very , nces. Look, limits. Otherwise you must face certairyou very , very look, limits. Otherwise you must face certairyou very , very much. Thank you very, very much. Graham graham was in there. Former met Police Officer. Look loads story on our loads more on this story on our website its the website gbnews. Com. Its the fastest National News Fastest Growing National News website country. Weve Fastest Growing National News wetalle country. Weve Fastest Growing National News wetall the country. Weve Fastest Growing National News wetall the bestountry. Weve Fastest Growing National News wetall the best analysisleve Fastest Growing National News wetall the best analysis bigz got all the best analysis big opinion and the latest opinion and all of the latest breaking news now. So im just breaking news now. So im just going to delve quickly into the inbox very, very quickly, gbviews gbnews. Com. I just want to read a couple out because theyre coming in thick and fast. Patrick, Prime Ministers home, not, home, whether occupied or not, where Security Services . Where are our Security Services . Alarming, keith. All alarming, says keith. All peoples homes should be out of bounds protesters. There bounds to protesters. There should exclusion zone should be an exclusion zone around yeah. Whats should be an exclusion zone around this yeah. Whats should be an exclusion zone around this from yeah. Whats should be an exclusion zone around this from turningihats should be an exclusion zone around this from turning upts should be an exclusion zone around this from turning up at stopping this from turning up at your crosses a line. Your house . It crosses a line. It crosses a line. They keep your views coming in. But this is ill be talking your views coming in. But this is when ill be talking your views coming in. But this is when ill be talking your views coming in. But this is when i come alking your views coming in. But this is when i come back. I your views coming in. But this is when i come back. The about when i come back. The terrorist who murdered mp, terrorist who murdered tory mp, sir david amess has been given £100,000 in taxpayer funded legal aid and absolute shocker. Oh and just a little teaser for you as well. The Interest Rates rise yet again. Over 50 are rise yet again. Over 50 are being told to get on your bike and get back to work. How do you feel about that if you are over 50 . We will also be hearing from the man himself, 50 . We will also be hearing from the man himself , the chancellor, the man himself, the chancellor, jeremy show very jeremy hunt, on this show very shortly. Christys on gb shortly. Patrick christys on gb News Business channel in just a tick, i will have news of potentially more pain for millions of homeowners. The bank of interest , millions of homeowners. The bank of interest, bank of interest. Thats what you should call it. The bank of england has increased the base rate yet again. Think are keeping increased the base rate yet agiaddicted|k are keeping increased the base rate yet agiaddicted to are keeping increased the base rate yet agiaddicted to interest, harry who comes across the engush harry who comes across the english channel, i mean, is there nothing that we will not do to accommodate young do to accommodate those young men across the channel . Men coming across the channel . But anyway, the terrorist who murdered tory mp sir david amess has been given £100,000 in legal aid. Ali harbi ali admitted killing sir david in 2021. Hed also plotted to kill other mps , also plotted to kill other mps, including michael gove , including michael gove, apparently. I am joined now by wasiq wasiq, whos a Counter Terrorism expert and a political commentator. Look, political commentator. Look, thank you very, very much for joining us. So you, me and everyone we know is paying for all this legal fees , are we . All this legal fees, are we . Well that seems to be the case, unfortunately , Ali Harbi Ali has unfortunately, Ali Harbi Ali has admitted to killing sir david amis, and this should have been a closed case. It should have been dealt with within a couple of days, not over seven days. And it seems that the lawyers who are representing him have managed to squeeze the taxpayers out of the money, that he doesnt deserve and doesnt frankly need for this to go all the way to trial. The way to trial. But i mean, hes not the only one. There are a long list of very nefarious characters who claim legal aid, including adding, by the way, some of the people who were involved in things like the rotherham and rochdale scandals. Rochdale grooming gang scandals. I racked huge i mean, they racked up huge bills. If you look at bills. I mean, if you look at the it comes to the total of those, it comes to above million. The taxpayer , above £1 million. The taxpayer, whether we like it or not, doesnt have a choice when it comes to forking out for some of the most disgusting people in our country, whether or not theyre even born here by the way. Well, indeed, its ridiculous what we need to put into perspective that only last perspective is that only last year when the legal aid reform bill was put into place, over 1. 3 billion has now been dedicated to paying for legal aid to prevent it and to incentivise actually lawyers to ensure that things were being deau ensure that things were being dealt with at the police level rather than being taken to court. However, that doesnt seem to be working and the lawyers solicitors not all of them of course. Itsjust them of course. Its just the rogue ones, or at least it seems to be. These rogue ones are operating in a way where theyre looking to just squeeze the taxpayer the money, which taxpayer out of the money, which is quite frankly scandalous. Is quite frankly scandalous. Look, you mentioned there about rogue solicitors. Im becoming increasingly concerned about had recent about this. Weve had the recent sting operation in the mail that has solicitors gratuitous has shown solicitors gratuitous plea saying for cash in hand they can get you a fake doctors note that will say youve got depression. You cant possibly be sent back to whatever country you came from or you you came from or have you suffered trauma at sea . You must have suffered trauma at when have suffered trauma at sea when you dinghy the you took that dinghy across the channel cant possibly be channel you cant possibly be housed bibby stockholm housed on a bibby stockholm barge, for example. Theres loads now that are loads of these ways now that are lawyers are just gratuitously coining in. Do you fear that when it comes to legal aid for terrorists, murderer gangs, that is the kind of stuff theyre doing as well. I think there could be an element of that, and i think it needs to be really investigated i i i think that the way that the banks are being now put on passed since nigel farage is so, you know, so called cancellation of his bank account, i think the same needs to be done with some of these law firms who are apparently acting unscrupulously and the fact is that if that is the case, they could be putting National Security at risk by allowing a lot of these Illegal Immigrants to stay here and to remain here and fighting for their cause just to make a quick buck. And this is just frankly , ridiculous. Yeah. And then when they go to court after theyve committed some of attack and some kind of terror attack and they legal aid again, dont some kind of terror attack and they said. Egal aid again, dont some kind of terror attack and they said they aid again, dont some kind of terror attack and they said they get again, dont some kind of terror attack and they said they get agaidoublet they said they get the double whammy. What ive got whammy. Just just what ive got you thats all right. You izik, if thats all right. We covering story at the we were covering a story at the start, was about start, which was about the greenpeace thats taking greenpeace saga thats taking place i made a point there place now. I made a point there that worried because that i would be worried because its a of security, its exposed a lack of security, basically around the Prime Ministers whether ministers home, whether hes there or not, whether or not that people who are terrorists will look at things like that and think, well, actually, i can i get at people who i want. I can get at people who i want. Do you think that the actions of some people might make some of these people might make it more likely for terrorists to act . Well, think what greenpeace well, i think what greenpeace have by invading the prime have done by invading the Prime Ministers home and actually putting at risk the Prime Minister if he was there and his family has provided a blueprint for some of these terrorists who are looking to carry out acts of terror against the mps, you have to remember Ali Harbi Ali wasnt set on just killing sir david amis. He wanted to kill other mps first. He just couldnt get to them. And he only killed sir david amis because he was able to get to them. Greenpeace are putting the lives of mps at risk by doing Something Like this and i think they need to really re evaluate how they want to get their message across. Look , was he. Thank you yeah, look, was he. Thank you very, very much. As ever. Always a pleasure. Was he was eat their Counter Terrorism a pleasure. Was he was eat their counter commentator quite political commentator quite literally killing two birds with one £100,000 in one stone there. £100,000 in legal the argument to legal aid. The other argument to it everyone deserves legal aid. The other argument to it right everyone deserves legal aid. The other argument to it right erepresentation. Es legal aid. The other argument to it right erepresentation. And the right to representation. And what do . Do we end up with what do we do . Do we end up with people whove committed or are accused certain people whove committed or are accuse headlines with Rhiannon Jones. Patrick, thank you. Good afternoon. Its 332. Your top afternoon. Its 332. Your top stories from the newsroom. The stories from the newsroom. The bank of england has raised its Interest Rate for the 14th time Interest Rate for the 14th time in a row. Its increasing from 5 to 5. 25. The highest base rate since 2008. Meanwhile high street retailer wilko has warned its on the brink of collapse , its on the brink of collapse, putting around 12,000 jobs at risk. The homeware chain, which has about 400 uk stores, has filed a notice of intention to appoint administrators as at the high court. And five people have high court. And five people have been arrested after four greenpeace activists climbed onto the Prime Ministers roof before draping it in black fabric. The fifth person was later arrested on suspicion of causing a public nuisance in connection with the protests. Connection with the protests. And you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website gbnews. Com. Website gbnews. Com. Direct bullion sponsors the Financial Report on gb news for gold and silver investment. Gold and silver investment. Heres a quick snapshot of todays markets. The pound will buy you 1. 26, seven, 7 and ,1. 1605. The price of gold is £1,526. 64 per ounce. And the ftse 100 is at 7516 points. Direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment looks like things are heating up. Like things are heating up. Boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Of weather on. Gb news. Im alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news some brighter spells out there today, but generally fairly cool and cloudy. A few heavy showers around, not as wet as yesterday, of course , that low pressure of course, that low pressure system cleared there system has cleared away. There is brewing out in is another one brewing out in the that will bring the atlantic that will bring wet and weather for saturday. And windy weather for saturday. But , for the rest but ahead of that, for the rest of today, weve got a northerly breeze bringing cloud and outbreaks across outbreaks of rain across northern a heavy northern scotland. A few heavy showers evening over showers this evening over southeast northeast southeast scotland and northeast england. Theyll going england. Theyll keep going actually through night. Many actually through the night. Many other areas will be dry and clearer. A slightly cooler night, than recent night, perhaps than recent nights. But still, temperatures mostly holding up in double figures, 11 to 14 celsius. On to friday. And certainly in the west , a dry and friday. And certainly in the west, a dry and a bright day, by and large. But across these and large. But across these eastern areas, particularly eastern areas, particularly eastern england, it will be quite a grey start. Further outbreaks of rain and then some heavy showers are possible developing through the afternoon across parts of lincolnshire. East anglia and far east anglia and the far southeast. Further west, most southeast. Further west, most places dry and brightening up with some decent of with some decent spells of sunshine actually winds sunshine. Actually the winds will well , so will be light as well, so feeling quite pleasant even though early in the though temperatures early in the high low 20s. Behind high teens or low 20s. Behind me, youll notice me, though, youll notice more wet this low pressure wet weather this low pressure system as it sweeps system intensifying as it sweeps across the country on friday night in the and spreading night in the west and spreading wet and windy weather across many areas during saturday, sitting brighter in the southwest later. Thats southwest later. But thats where strongest will southwest later. But thats whewe strongest will southwest later. But thats whewe do strongest will southwest later. But thats whewe do have gest will southwest later. But thats whewe do havegewarning will southwest later. But thats whewe do havegewarning out. Southwest later. But thats whewe do havegewarning out for be. We do have a warning out for those and for the heavy those winds and for the heavy rain across northern ireland. Goodbye looks like things are heating up. Boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb sponsors of weather on. Gb news. So shock horror. The bank of england has hiked Interest Rates again. The base rate increase by a quarter of 1 to 5. 25. It is the 14th rate rise in a row. Chancellor jeremy rise in a row. Chancellorjeremy hunt , who i rise in a row. Chancellorjeremy hunt, who i remain unconvinced, is actually our chancellor. But there we go. So is it sticking to plans will bring inflation forecast to below 3. But shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves says its another hammer blow for struggling households. Now millions of households are indeed very unhappy about this decision , with Campaign Group decision, with Campaign Group positive money protesting outside of the bank of england this morning. So the bank of englands relentless hiking of Interest Rates have caused big bank profits to balloon the four biggest banks in the uk have made nearly £30 billion in profit in the first half of 2023 alone. Thats nearly 80 more than the same time last year. This these profits are unearned. Theyve come about with the banks having to lift banks not having to lift a finger. Theyre the direct result of Interest Rate by result of Interest Rate hikes by the so were the bank of england. So were calling bank to calling on the bank to stop those hikes were those rate hikes and were calling to calling on the government to step introduce a windfall step in and introduce a windfall tax those bank profits as well. With me now is Justin Urquhart stewart, whos an economist and co founder at rage only, and justin , economists , only, and justin, economists, experts, ordinary members of the pubuc experts, ordinary members of the public are getting very , very public are getting very, very worried about what these bankers and hunt are doing. And hunt are doing. Well, you have to see, look whats happening here. Youve had a bank of england, which is apparently independent. Careful of that. Lets be careful of that. Lets be careful of that. England, whos been bank of england, whos been charged looking after charged with looking after inflation. Tools they got . They put Interest Rates they can put Interest Rates up its a bit like a up or down. Its a bit like a man having a hammer. Everything looks like a nail. Everything looks like a nail. Whats your answer . W inflation, right . Ill have to Interest Rates. To put up Interest Rates. Dont actually, this no, you dont actually, this is a thing treasury, not is a thing for the treasury, not for of england, because for the bank of england, because this do with this inflation is not to do with the consumer which if it the consumer boom, which if it was consumer would was a consumer boom, you would put inflation, rates put up inflation, Interest Rates in slow it down. We can in order to slow it down. We can tell from actually whats happening, whats happening at wilko and places like that. For were actually heading for a consumer recession. Particular of this this particular bout of inflation seen coming from inflation weve seen coming from covid and supply chain issues, we had from that from whats happened ukraine, whats happened in ukraine, whats happening and happened in ukraine, whats hapjand1g and happened in ukraine, whats hapjand all and happened in ukraine, whats hapjand all those and happened in ukraine, whats hapjand all those issues and happened in ukraine, whats hapjand all those issues are and gas and all those issues are there. So its supply side issues. So what you need to do issues. So what you need to do is actually not cut taxes. They is actually not cut taxes. They cant afford to that, but they cant afford to that, but they can give tax incentives, things like enterprise investment like more enterprise investment schemes enterprise schemes or Regional Enterprise investment get more investment schemes to get more money going back into the economy theres no economy because theres no shortage economy because theres no shortaginvestment money. Get private investment money. Get that going you get the that going in and you get the one that runs the economy. One word that runs the economy. Confidence. One word that runs the economy. Conare nce. One word that runs the economy. Conare we. One word that runs the economy. Conare we being badly run at the are we being badly run at the moment by our chancellor and the head of the bank of england . Im being badly run because they dont understand actually whats on. Whats going on. Sorry whats going on. Thats criminal. Im sorry to interrupt, but that is criminal. Dont take the job. Its dont take the job. Well, its the is, the advisers and the trouble is, the advisers and a treasury advisers a lot of the treasury advisers come from the same school. Are dealing with if you are dealing with inflation, you put up Interest Rates. Inflation is the rates. Not all inflation is the same. It varies from different types. This is not the same as the 70s 80s you did the 70s and 80s where you did need put up Interest Rates to need to put up Interest Rates to try actually that boom try and actually cool that boom down. In the high down. Ask people in the high street moment say, street at the moment and say, how confident in moment . How confident are you in moment . Are a consumer boom . And are you in a consumer boom . And theyll their theyll sit there, pull their hands pockets and say, hands in their pockets and say, i any money. Why i havent got any money. Why because Interest Rates have gone up. Remember, up. So and also, remember, interest have a lag time, up. 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And so , you know, you keep on doing so, you know, you keep on doing it until something happens, then its everyone, every one seems but everyone, every one seems to saying this bad. To be saying this is bad. Everyone seems be saying this everyone seems to be saying this is is the is a bad idea and this is the wrong way to go about things. Is a bad idea and this is the wrorim ay to go about things. Is a bad idea and this is the wrorim sorry, go about things. Is a bad idea and this is the wrorim sorry, but bout things. Is a bad idea and this is the wrorim sorry, but boutfeedss. And im sorry, but this feeds people start think people who start to think theres some kind of wider conspiracy make us all conspiracy here to make us all poorer stuff. Poorer and all of that stuff. Because then you at it and because then you look at it and you , well, mean, stuff you go, well, i mean, this stuff is happening. You go, well, i mean, this stuff is ithen 1ing. You go, well, i mean, this stuff is ithen you end with then you end up with a wonderful statement saying, well, have well, perhaps we should have a recession. Be good recession. It could be good for you. Sorry. Lets have you. Im sorry. Yes. Lets have a havent had one this a cold. I havent had one this yeah year. No w fl e on. What do we do . Okay. Come on. What do we do . What do we do then . What you try to do. First of all, id actually try sure ive got some try and make sure ive got some tax get more money tax incentives to get more money going into the economy from private investors and from corporates and from people externally as well, to invest back to say these back in britain to say these people as though theyve people look as though theyve got we where growth people look as though theyve gc going ale where growth people look as though theyve gcgoing ale make here growth people look as though theyve gc going ale make here those owth is going to make sure those incentives are those incentives are going to those areas of growth companies, smaller companies, tech companies. Areas where smaller companies, tech compaties. Areas where smaller companies, tech compaties. The areas where smaller companies, tech compaties. The techireas where smaller companies, tech compaties. The tech hubswhere good at go to the tech hubs around country. Youll see a around the country. Youll see a lot innovation going lot of innovation going in there. Thats where youll see there. Thats where youll see the and youre the growth growth. And youre deaung the growth growth. And youre dealing not dealing with things like is of like hs2, which is of yesterdays and things like hs2, which is of yestthat. s and things like hs2, which is of yestthat. Real and things like hs2, which is of yestthat. Real growth things like hs2, which is of yestthat. Real growth around like that. Real growth around the the the country not focussed on the south know we can do south east. So we know we can do that doesnt cost the government anything these are not anything because these are not theyre , no tax cuts, theyre not tax, no tax cuts, not giveaways. Its an incentive not giveaways. Its an incentive to say if you invest your money in here, well give you a tax break. So when youve actually make it, you only make some profit on it, you only pay make some profit on it, you only pay the future or pay so much tax in the future or youll your back youll get your money back if the thing bust or the whole thing goes bust or some of it. So there are lots of incentives try and do to incentives you can try and do to actually the actually give people the confidence that actually confidence to know that actually people guide the people are trying to guide the economy towards not the economy towards growth, not the way we hearing last economy towards growth, not the way aboute hearing last economy towards growth, not the way aboute giveearing last economy towards growth, not the way aboute giveearing tax year about just give them tax cuts because cant afford cuts because you cant afford tax cuts at the moment. But this is Cost Effective way of is a very Cost Effective way of doing thing you do, doing it. Another thing you do, how you have how about actually you can have a stamp duty holiday for a penod a stamp duty holiday for a period time. Done period of time. Weve done that before. Actually before. Yes. That would actually certainly the certainly help now with the Housing Market and bear in mind, the driver the uk the primary driver of the uk economy the consumer. The economy is the consumer. And the primary most consumers primary issue for most consumers is is is their primary asset. Is the house. And if the house house. Yes and if the house price is going and they price is going down and they think sell it let think they cant sell it or let alone one, then of alone i cant buy one, then of course youre going to the course youre going to see the economy down. We are economy slow down. We are probably already in recession. Not a one, it end not a bad one, but it could end up necessary. Up being longer than necessary. Take the practical way of getting more money into the economy, not government money. There shortage private there is no shortage of private money because its not government money because its not gov itsnent money because its not gov its arm, its well, its arm money. But look at all the pension money weve got this country. Money weve got in this country. I with regional pension i was with a regional pension fund. Pension fund up in midlands and saying, how much of your money, if this Pension Fund Money actually gets invested in the midlands . And they said, well, send it to fund well, we send it to a fund manager who gives it a manager in london who gives it a Nice Investment around nice broad investment around the world, allocation, world, well, asset allocation, how be going how much even 5 should be going in you think . In locally . Dont you think . Your pension is your pension pension is obviously they obviously there . No, they dont know if you ask. Most pensioners as well, theyd be favour of theyd probably be in favour of that. Yes. Yes invest in my local areas. Invest in my local areas. Not actually having why not actually having regional bonds . Why not actually having reg so al bonds . Why not actually having reg so al could bonds . Why not actually having reg so al could actuallys . Why not actually having reg so al could actually invest so you could actually invest regionally in those infrastructure the infrastructure areas because the government afford do infrastructure areas because the g0thisnent afford do infrastructure areas because the g0this is nt afford do infrastructure areas because the g0this is going afford do infrastructure areas because the g0this is going to |fford do infrastructure areas because the g0this is going to |ff0|donedo infrastructure areas because the g0this is going to |ff0|done now it. This is going to be done now without the government without costing the government anything at all and get the economy moving. All right. Very look, justin, thank you very , much. Justin urquhart , very much. Justin Urquhart Stewart there, course. Right. Stewart there, of course. Right. Well, look , in the way of sorry, well, look, in the way of sorry, in the wake of todays Interest Rate rise , i believe now earlier rate rise, i believe now earlier than expected. Good stuff. Theres good stuff. We can hear theres good stuff. We can hear from the chancellor jeremy hunt, about the bank of englands decision. Decision. Any rise in Interest Rates is a worry for families with mortgages, for businesses, with loans. But underneath that decision is a forecast that says that this Time Next Year, inflation will be 2. 8 and we will have avoided a recession. And what the bank of england governor is saying is that we have a plan that is bringing down inflation solidly, robustly and consistently. So the plan is working. So the plan is working. But what we have to do as a government is make sure we stick to plan. We dont veer to that plan. We dont veer around like a shopping trolley. We that plan so that we stick to that plan so that families and businesses can start the benefits of start to feel the benefits of that plan actually working. That plan actually working. Okay. And banks provide an essential service to people in this country following the whats happened with nigel farage, his account. Aukus are you concerned just more broadly at the scale of de banking, whether for commercial or for reputational reasons as well . Im worried that it may exist more than we had thought. And the reason im worried is because free speech is a fundamental human right. And you can agree or disagree with nigel farage, but Everyone Wants to be able to express their opinions. But in todays society, you need a bank account to function. And so a threat to be de banking as the word is now widely used, is a threat to your right to express your opinions. So we have regulations. So we have regulations. I think its regulation 18 of the payment accounts regulations is that ban this so called de banking of people for their political views. Ive written to political views. Ive written to the regulator, which is the Financial Conduct Authority. They have the right to fine the banks, very large sums of money. If they find this practise is widespread. I want to know if it is and i want to know what theyre doing about it. And they said theyll get back to me by september. So thank you very much. So thank you very much. Those are the questions. Those are the questions. Those are the questions. Okay. So that was the chancellor, jeremy hunt, there answering a little bit about de banking. Justin answering a little bit about de banking. Justin urquhart de banking. Justin Urquhart Stewart joins still in the stewart joins me still in the studio now. Thank you very, very much. Wired into much. I know you were wired into that at the start. What do that then at the start. What do you it . You make of it . Well, a couple of things. One, was actually talking one, he was actually talking about medicines starting to about the medicines starting to work already. Well, hang on a second. Have actually got the second. We have actually got the price wheat up already. Price of wheat going up already. So weve got so later in the year, weve got more heading way. So later in the year, weve got morthe heading way. So later in the year, weve got morthe price heading way. So later in the year, weve got morthe price ofeading way. So later in the year, weve got morthe price of riceng way. So later in the year, weve got morthe price of rice going way. So later in the year, weve got morthe price of rice going up y. But the price of rice going up later in the year. You can see from india. So thats more inflation our way. So inflation heading our way. So its afraid, its not working, im afraid, because theyre putting up interest here has Interest Rates over here has absolutely the absolutely no impact on the effect. Effect of wheat. I mean, is he stupid or lying . No. What hes doing is being badly people badly advised because the people in the treasury dont have the breadth they breadth of knowledge and they used to the treasury 30 used to have the treasury 30 years ago. And im an old but they had people who were extremely bright, but they had been there for years. Been there for donkeys years. They lot about they knew an awful lot about actually how things now actually how things worked. Now theyve adopted modern hr policies, so its or 4 years policies, so its 3 or 4 years here. Then you go to the home office, then you go to the foreign still foreign office. Still very bright, your way into foreign office. Still very brig house your way into foreign office. Still very brighouse of your way into foreign office. Still very brighouse of lords, r way into foreign office. Still very brighouse of lords, having1to foreign office. Still very brighouse of lords, having done the house of lords, having done absolutely nothing. Well, not actually very bright, but the depth so really depth of expertise. So really being and being able to understand and actually challenge this. The actually challenge this. The standard economists say this is not to it. Not the way to do it. Look, thank you very, okay. Look, thank you very, very much. Great to have on okay. Look, thank you very, veryshowh. Great to have on okay. Look, thank you very, veryshow. Great to have on okay. Look, thank you very, veryshow. Justin to have on okay. Look, thank you very, very show. Justin urquhart on the show. Justin Urquhart Stewart, course , that right. Stewart, of course, that right. Look, got loads coming your look, ive got loads coming your way and in fact, are the way and in fact, we are the peoples channel we want to peoples channel and we want to hear from you people hear from from you real people out there. Very shortly out there. So very, very shortly we going to be going to we are going to be going out to our peoples to find out our Peoples Panel to find out what ordinary women what ordinary men and women on the think about another the street think about another interest hike , what it Interest Rate hike, what it means for the money in their pocket and all of that. So make sure you stay tuned. Im also of course, going to be doing a lot of talking fact that of talking about the fact that ukrainian be ukrainian refugees could be booted country to booted out of this country to make channel migrants. Booted out of this country to m. There channel migrants. Booted out of this country to m. There nothing annel migrants. Booted out of this country to m. There nothing we el migrants. Booted out of this country to m. There nothing we williigrants. Booted out of this country to m. There nothing we will not nts. Booted out of this country to m. There nothing we will not do. Is there nothing we will not do to accommodate people coming illegally channel all illegally across the channel all to well, in about ten minutes time, i will have the very latest on those incredible scenes that saw greenpeace activists sit on the roof of rishi sunaks home in nonh roof of rishi sunaks home in North Yorkshire. Can you imagine if they tried to do that to one of joe bidens homes or emmanuel macrons homes or putin ins home . Theyd have been shot before theyd scaled the garden fence, wouldnt they . More fence, wouldnt they . But more now todays intro rate rise. Now on todays intro rate rise. Weve had 40 goes at this, by the way. Thats the amount of the way. Thats the amount of times in a row that theyve done it. News peoples it. Gb news is the peoples channel. I want to know as well in this Interest Rate in light of this Interest Rate rise and everyone and rise and everyone suffering and the crisis , well, the cost of living crisis, well, whats big plan . Its a big whats the big plan . Its a big plan. If youre over 50, get on your bike. Yeah. Work for deliveroo. And deliver deliveroo. Go and deliver peoples takeaways. I mean, the work and pensions secretary, mel stride, that cash stride, suggests that cash strapped right. Could strapped brits. Right. Could turn to Flexible Working firms like deliveroo. Why do they get on their bike start running on their bike and start running this country as opposed on their bike and start running thigrinding as opposed on their bike and start running thigrinding it as opposed on their bike and start running thigrinding it into as opposed on their bike and start running thigrinding it into the opposed on their bike and start running thigrinding it into the ground . To grinding it into the ground . But anyway, we want to hear how the will be affected by but anyway, we want to hear how the news will be affected by but anyway, we want to hear how the news oflill be affected by but anyway, we want to hear how the news of these affected by but anyway, we want to hear how the news of these interest by but anyway, we want to hear how the news of these Interest Rate rises. Got east rises. And weve got east Midlands Reporter will hollis, who chesterfield our who is in chesterfield with our peoples you Peoples Panel. Well, thank you very much. Well, i dont know if theres any 50s with theres any over 50s there with you. Or not you. I wonder whether or not theyre get their theyre keen to get on their bike. Good afternoon. Bike. Good afternoon. No, i didnt see anybody come in with a bike or a cycle helmet. Were here in chesterfield. One of my chesterfield. One of my fantastic Peoples Panel described it as the filling inside a Derby Sheffield sandwich. Thats where we are in sandwich. Thats where we are in the country right in the middle. If you stick a pin on a map, youll probably be right in the middle in chesterfield, where our fantastic Peoples Panel are talking about Interest Rates today. Hugh macdonald weve just been hearing from Patrick Christys that the christys the news that the suggestion youre having a suggestion is if youre having a tough with your of tough time with your cost of living, you should job living, you should get a job at deliveroo get bike. Deliveroo and get on your bike. Are you a keen cyclist, especially in a hilly . I mean, ridiculous. I mean, thats ridiculous. Although to say in our although i have to say in our hard times, i ran three jobs working behind bars as well as my main full time job and had to do that and still found it really tough going. So i dont think its realistic to expect people to get on a bike. You know, and, you know, do deliveroo maybe drive for amazon, though, or Something Like that . I believe theres lots of money to be made. Made out of that. But dont leave the parcels outside peoples doors without telling them because theyll get soggy and wet stolen. Talking about second jobs, obviously youre a councillor , obviously youre a councillor, steve, a conservative councillor in north east derbyshire, but youve well. Is youve got a job as well. Is a second the way to out of second job the way to get out of this cost of living crisis or is it better jobs that we need . I think a bit of both. For think its a bit of both. For some they are able to do some people they are able to do a second job for single families that of of up that we have a lot of sort of up here. Its very hard with the cost of to that. But cost of living to do that. But having in having a greater investment in the area and actually having more upskilling for more focus on upskilling for better the skills better jobs, the Digital Skills gap, have an increase gap, we need to have an increase of people in Technical Skills by 2025, 50 of people are going to need to retrain or learn additional skills. So creating better opportunities is going to better opportunities is going to be one way of solving this. But i think a for chesterfield, theres too many hills for deliveroo weve got less deliveroo and weve got less disposable youre disposable income. So youre going out going to find people eating out less. Not really to less. So youre not really to going have that much delivery jobs up here. I think thats more london thing and some more a london thing and some politicians in politicians need to get more in touch other parts of the touch with other parts of the country. James, were of course touch with other parts of the ctalking|ames, were of course touch with other parts of the ctalking|ames, disposable urse , talking about disposable income. Work in. Suppose income. You work in. I suppose the disposable income field because youre a tea merchant. People might want to buy expensive teas , but when its expensive teas, but when its cost of living crisis, its really hard. But you also work on boards here in chesterfield. Just describe for me how is chesterfield faring in this really difficult climate when towns struggling . Towns are really struggling . Were trying very hard as i think what the best thing to say and succeeding far as and succeeding as far as circumstances let us succeed. Circumstances let us succeed. Im very proud of chesterfield. We where i was born and where ive lived for 51 years and there are so many good things about it and evangelise about those doesnt cost any money and aid increases interest and what i like to see is what ive seen today when weve done the breaks, ive been out into the town centre, had a walk around, brilliant buzzing with buzzing with things with people, lots of things going of shops, open going on, lots of shops, open commerce, know , trade being commerce, you know, trade being done. Im not over keen on that comment about going and getting a deliveroo job. If im on it, i think its a little bit like Marie Antoinette saying let them eat cake and i think its rotten, to be honest. I think the thing you know, the best thing to do, you know, people intelligent enough to people are intelligent enough to know how to make ends meet. What we need to do is give them the facility to do that within the environment that they live. Environment that they live. Yeah, course. Thank you so yeah, of course. Thank you so much, guys, forjoining us on much, guys, for joining us on our peoples in our Peoples Panel here in chesterfield. The heart chesterfield. Right in the heart of course, this of derbyshire. Of course, this is do as the peoples is what we do as the peoples channel. Out to the places channel. Get out to the places where people are because who just hear people just wants to hear people in london the time . London talking all the time . No offence though. Of offence to you, though. Of course, patrick. Absolutely am. Of course , from from the of course, from from the north, which is why i get away with well, thank you very with it. Well, thank you very much. Stuff. I love those much. Great stuff. I love those comments as well the comments as well about the delivery mean, good delivery drivers. I mean, good grief. Just grief. Honestly its just let them deliver them eat cake. Let them deliver cake, isnt it . But coming up for greenpeace, activists have been they climbed been arrested. They climbed on the rishi home. The roof of rishi sunaks home. Is class this lot as is it time to class this lot as eco Patrick Christys eco terrorist Patrick Christys on gb news is britains news channel a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Im alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news some brighter spells out there today, but generally fairly cool and cloudy. A few heavy showers around, as wet as yesterday around, not as wet as yesterday. Of course, that low pressure system cleared there system has cleared away. There is one brewing out in is another one brewing out in the atlantic bring wet the atlantic that will bring wet and weather saturday. The atlantic that will bring wet and ahead weather saturday. The atlantic that will bring wet and ahead of ather saturday. The atlantic that will bring wet and ahead of that, saturday. The atlantic that will bring wet and ahead of that, for saturday. The atlantic that will bring wet and ahead of that, for the urday. The atlantic that will bring wet and ahead of that, for the rest l but ahead of that, for the rest of today, weve got a northerly breeze cloud and breeze bringing cloud and outbreaks rain across outbreaks of rain across northern scotland. A few heavy showers over showers this evening over southeast northeast southeast scotland and northeast england. Theyll keep going england. Theyll keep going actually through night. Many actually through the night. Many other dry and other areas will be dry and clearer, a slightly cooler night perhaps than recent nights, but still temperatures mostly holding up in double figures, 11 to 14 celsius on to friday. And certainly in the west, dry and a bright day by and large. But across these eastern areas, particularly eastern england, it will be quite a grey start , will be quite a grey start, further outbreaks of rain and then some heavy showers are possible developing through the afternoon across parts of lincolnshire , east anglia and lincolnshire, east anglia and the far southeast. Further west, the far southeast. Further west, most places dry and brightening up with some decent spells of sunshine. Winds sunshine. Actually the winds will be light as well, so feeling quite pleasant even though temperatures are only in the or 20s behind the high teens or low 20s behind me, notice more me, though, youll notice more wet this pressure wet weather. This low pressure system intensifying as it sweeps across the country on friday night in the west spreading night in the west and spreading wet and windy weather across many during saturday, many areas during saturday, sitting in the sitting brighter in the southwest later. But thats where winds will where the strongest winds will be. We do warning out be. We do have a warning out for those the heavy be. We do have a warning out for thos across the heavy be. We do have a warning out for thos across northern the heavy be. We do have a warning out for thos across northern ireland. y rain across northern ireland. Goodbye. Goodbye. A brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of gb news. Its 4 pm. Its Patrick Christys. Its gb news. And very, very shortly we will have an extended version of the jeremy hunt interview for you. Hes been sitting down talking to us, and its a big day for jeremy hunt, isnt it . And its quite a bad day for anybody else in this country. Moving on, were going to be talking about this as well. Greenpeace should they be bracketed a terrorist they be bracketed as a terrorist organisation , action groups like organisation, action groups like them because yes, them as well, because yes, theres stunt thats theres another stunt thats been , hasnt it . As im been pulled, hasnt it . As im sure youre aware, rishi sure youre all aware, rishi sunaks was targeted by sunaks house was targeted by this law. They scaled his roof. Hes holiday. They hes away on holiday. But they werent know who was in werent to know who was in there, they . Asking , there, were they . I am asking, should completely off should it be completely off limits for anybody go after limits for anybody to go after a politicians home . Should it be off limits after their off limits to go after their wedding . Should be off limits wedding . Should it be off limits to else . What to go after anything else . What next . Mean, good next . A funeral . I mean, good grief, it end . Grief, where will it end . But yes, all on yes, thats not all thats on the agenda. Were also to going be discussing this. Are you over 50 . D0 be discussing this. Are you over 50 . Do you fancy, know, for 50 . Do you fancy, you know, for the the good of the country 50 . Do you fancy, you know, for tifor the good of the country 50 . Do you fancy, you know, for tifor the 1e good of the country 50 . Do you fancy, you know, for tifor the good 3d of the country 50 . Do you fancy, you know, for tifor the good of of the country 50 . Do you fancy, you know, for tifor the good of the 1e country 50 . Do you fancy, you know, for tifor the good of the economy, for the good of the economy, getting on a bike going getting on a bike and going and bringing me a mcdonalds . No didnt apparently didnt think so. But apparently thats what the work and pensions secretary wants you to do youre short on a bit of do if youre short on a bit of money want help with money and you want to help with the over 50, the economy and youre over 50, go for deliveroo. I go and work for deliveroo. I think i know needs to get on think i know who needs to get on their its you. And their bike and its not you. And well be talking all about this as this is serious. As well. This is very serious. It right up. And i can it winds me right up. And i can tell it gets you tell from the inbox it gets you going well. David going as well. David amess killer mp who was killed at killer that mp who was killed at his own public surgery. Yet. His own public surgery. Yet. £100,000 in taxpayer funded legal aid. His killer has been given. I mean, just add that to given. I mean, just add that to the list. Weve had the rochdale and rotherham grooming gang scandal. People theyve had taxpayer funded legal aid as well. When will it end . Patrick christys. Gb news keep those christys. Gb news keep those emails coming in. We will have a lot of time for them this hour. Gb views. Gbnews. Com. Do you think that politicians houses anybodys house really frankly should be off limits when it comes to environmental protests 7 comes to environmental protests . And what should we do to stop these from happening and continuing to happen . Right continuing to happen . But right now your headlines with now it is your headlines with polly. Patrick. Polly. Patrick. Thank you. Good afternoon to you. The thank you. Good afternoon to you. The bank of england has raised its Interest Rate for the 14th time in a row. Now the rate is increasing from 5 to 5. 25. Thats the highest base rate since 2008. The bank says it expects inflation to be halved by the end of the year, which is one of the governments key priorities. Priorities. The increase piles yet more pressure on borrowers, mortgage holders and households which are struggling. Struggling. The chancellor, jeremy hunt, says the governments plan, though, working and any rise though, is working and any rise in Interest Rates is a worry for families with mortgages, for businesses with loans. But underneath earth, that decision is a forecast that says that this Time Next Year inflation will be 2. 8 and we will have avoided recession. And what the bank of england governor is saying is that we have a plan that is bringing down inflation solidly, robustly and consistently. And consistently. Well, the shadow chancellor, Rachel Reeves, says the government does need to take action. Well , the rate rise that well, the rate rise that weve seen today is just another hammer blow to families across the country who are seeing their mortgages increase when it comes to remortgaging, at the moment, a family thats looking to remortgage their property is going to be paying on average more than £200 extra every single month. And for some people, its much more than that. Now, of course, the bank of england have independence and thats as it should be. But the government need responsibility for need to take responsibility for the that inflation in the fact that inflation in the uk is much higher than it is in comparable countries. Comparable countries. Well, the bank of england also says food prices are likely to remain high for the rest of the year, whilst it says theres wide agreement that food Price Inflation has now peaked and should fall by the end of the yean should fall by the end of the year, it could take time for the reduction to hit the shelves. Reduction to hit the shelves. Meanwhile, the high street retailer wilko has warned its on the brink of collapse that puts around 12,000 jobs at risk. The boss of the homeware chain says it expects to go into insolvency after failing to secure a takeover to help the business with mounting cash pressures. Wilko, which has around 400 uk stores , has filed around 400 uk stores, has filed around 400 uk stores, has filed a notice of intention to appoint administrators at the high court at crawley. Residents in sussex were disappointed by the news. Its very bad , very bad. Its very bad, very bad. Its very bad, very bad. Its very bad, very bad. Its a shame. Its a shame. Its a shame. What do you thinks gone wrong . Wrong . Goodness only knows. Goodness only knows. Goodness only knows. I went to uni. I went to uni. I went to uni. I actually shopped here so i think it could be management error management mistakes. Dont know, Walking Around i dont know, Walking Around and i wondered if that was the case. Its just so empty. Its just so empty. Oh, that is devastating because i know i do a lot of shopping here because they are very good, actually. You know, the thing i found here, i couldnt find it in biancu. Well, also in the news today for activists that scaled the Prime Ministers home in North Yorkshire have been arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage and a public nuisance. A fifth person has also been arrested on suspicion of causing arrested on suspicion of causing a public nuisance and remains in police custody. They draped his police custody. They draped his home in black fabric in protest against 100 new north sea oil and gas licences granted by him who and they say he says he wont apologise for supporting the exploration. The deputy Prime Minister, Oliver Dowden, has defended the governments plans. Plans. Most people would say, can you stop the stupid stunts . You stop the stupid stunts . Actually what they want to see from government is action. The question is do we produce it here . Where we get more tax, we create more jobs, or do we do what the labour party and others say, which is say no more investment in our north sea oil and gas. That investment in our north sea oil and gas. That means fewer jobs and gas. That means fewerjobs here and more reliance on less Stable Energy, which is shipped into this country. I dont think thats a sensible approach and its not one this government is going to take. Well, alex wilson from greenpeace says the Prime Minister needs to choose a side i were all here because rishi sunak has opened the door for a new drilling frenzy in the north sea. While large parts of our sea. While large parts of our world are literally on fire, this will be a disaster for the climate. It wont lower your climate. It wont lower your energy bills. Its not going to boost our Energy Security. The boost our Energy Security. The only people that are going to profit from this at all are the big oil companies. The deputy Prime Minister says Asylum Seekers will be on the bibby stockholm accommodation barge in the coming weeks. The first group of migrants was originally scheduled to move into the controversial accommodation in dorset on tuesday. The delay, dorset on tuesday. The delay, though, was caused by issues surrounding the health and safety of port workers, not fire safety. Oliver dowden says hes confident that the problems can be addressed after firefighters warned the vessels a potential death trap. The science death trap. The science secretary has accused a labour mp of misleading the public after he shared a fake image of the Prime Minister. Mp for hull east carl turner posted a doctored picture showing rishi sunak at a beer festival in west london with a badly pulled pint and a woman seemingly looking on disapprovingly. And a woman seemingly looking on disapprovingly. Michelle donelan disapprovingly. Michelle donelan has described sharing the deep fake image as pretty desperate stuff by labour. Mr turner later said he hadnt realised the image was a fake. Youre with gb image was a fake. Youre with gb news across the uk on tv , in news across the uk on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news now back to. Patrick yeah, look, im starting with this incredible story that raises serious pertinent questions about the safety and security of the Prime Minister. Other leading figures. I also think ourselves as well, frankly. Five greenpeace protesters who scaled rishi sunaks home in yorkshire have now been arrested. Campaigners were seen at rishi sunaks private home, draping a massive oil black piece of fabric over the roof. A mr. Sunak and his the roof. A mr. Sunak and his family are currently away on houdayin family are currently away on holiday in california, but that is not the point. That is absolute , not the point. They absolute, not the point. They were not to know who may have been at that home. There is nothing now, i would argue as well, stopping them doing to well, stopping them doing it to your other celebrities your house or other celebrities houses or the politicians houses or along these lines or anything along these lines whatsoever. And i think they are getting and more and more getting more and more and more extreme. It is going to be extreme. And it is going to be a problem unless it is nipped in the now, bear in mind , we the bud. Now, bear in mind, we are with a group of are dealing with a group of people who genuinely believe that the Doomsday Clock is ticking what do ticking and at what point do they well, look , its the they think, well, look, its the end the world or i do end of the world or i do something extreme. And something even more extreme. And at what point do people die . At what point do people die . Look. Mark white joins me now, our home and security editor. Mark, revealed some mark, you revealed some staggering about how long staggering news about how long it appears to have taken the police to actually react to this i yeah, theres a gaping chasm. I think, with what the police are telling us about the time that they responded to these protesters on the roof and when the protesters said they were actually up on the roof, the protesters were saying it was about six in the morning. The police said they got a call to say protesters were on the roof about 806. So we called greenpeace up just to try to clarify , thinking maybe they clarify, thinking maybe they misspoke. Mr understood what their activists on the roof had told them, but they were absolutely insistent , very clear absolutely insistent, very clear on this 605. They got on to that building , 6 on this 605. They got on to that building, 6 or 5, in fact , they building, 6 or 5, in fact, they were saying on the phone to us, they couldnt believe just how long it took the police to respond. They were setting up there hours and no police there for hours and no Police Response. So i think some serious questions here for North Yorkshire. They said in their press release that this was a Swift Response , quite aside from Swift Response, quite aside from the very worrying indications from this, that there doesnt appear to be any security presence on the ground regarding of whether the Prime Minister is in residence or not. Its a sensitive building. Yeah, no security presence on the ground, clearly no sensors or anything that would have alerted police before that. The alerted police before that. The question for me is if it takes the police around two and a bit hours to turn up to a Prime Ministers house, when people scale his roof and do whatever else they do, there , else they do, there, realistically how long can you and i expect it to be for the police to turn up at your house if somebody breaks in there . I think that is quite an astonishing question. Lets just stick, though, mark, the stick, though, mark, with the issues politicians , issues facing some politicians, as could give a as i think this could give a green light to terrorists , to green light to terrorists, to who want to go out and attack our politicians and public figures like we saw with david amess well, this is it. I mean, some people , you know, might some people, you know, might accuse anyone of saying how worrying this is of hyperbole that this is just eco activists. Why are you getting your knickers in a twist over such an issue . But actually, you just need to cast your mind back to 2021 and the murder of david amess in his constituency to jo cox and the murderer of that mp in her constituency. Many mps in her constituency. Many mps are very vulnerable back in their constituency. See at the their constituency. See at the best of times, and these are ordinary mps, when you have a Prime Minister. Yeah, the most senior politician in the land, you expect that there is a very high degree of protection that that Prime Minister should enjoy for him , his family and his for him, his family and his property. We all of the time property. We all of the time while hes in office and even potentially afterwards , because potentially afterwards, because we know the risks are out there, we know the risks are out there, we know the risks are out there, we know there are individual owls who want to do our senior politicians harm. But look at the trajectory of this. You know , we started out this. You know, we started out with your classic eco activist, maybe digging a hole or digging a tunnel somewhere. You know, do you piece of this world, didnt you . And then its escalated and, you know, Extinction Rebellion, were bringing london to a standstill. Then its moved to a standstill. Then its moved into the realms of criminal damage from some of the other eco just stop. Eco activists. Then just stop. Oil stopped pregnant women oil have stopped pregnant women from to hospital, from getting to hospital, stopping ambulances , stopping stopping ambulances, stopping all sorts of stuff. And then weve had people actually going round to George Osbornes wedding and ruining that. Now weve scaling the weve got people scaling the Prime Ministers if you Prime Ministers house. If you look at the trajectory of this stuff and theyre all theyre getting a slap on the wrist, getting is a slap on the wrist, just a little slap on the rail. Dont that again. Theyre on dont do that again. Theyre on the top Prime Ministers the top of our Prime Ministers roof laughing how long hes roof laughing at how long hes taking the police up. Taking the police to turn up. I just find it absolutely scandalous, mark. I mean, you know, how long is it before we have to clamp down seriously on these people . You know, look, i dont know what the trajectory is in terms of how far those eco activists with very real concerns about the direction of travel for our planet feel that they might have to go in the weeks, months and years ahead to get their message across. None of us know that. But just take it back to the very real issue, the real issue that weve seen all across the world with political leaders who are regularly targeted by those who genuinely do want to cause them very serious harm. And that means thats why in the us, your president , your Vice President , your senior government officials, all enjoy secret Service Details in france. In other countries around the world of any note and consequence, their political leaders are well protected and their families are and their properties are. And their properties are. And we were going to do a different story with you today, mark, actually, before this happened. And i think it ties in a bit because theres been a risk league table almost i think published now isnt there . Yeah, thats the National Risk register which talks about the threat. And clearly chief among them is the threat of terrorism, which still exists with an ever increasing array of actors who might actually want to cause some kind of very significant incident for their own aims is not just that, but also so with the onset of advances in technology , youve advances in technology, youve got threats coming from the cyber world, threats to our undersea cables. Theres cyber world, threats to our undersea cables. Theres a myriad of threats out there. The myriad of threats out there. The world is a much more dangerous place. State actors as well. There are very significant issue. We know that from the evidence thats been gathered, russia have been on the ground , russia have been on the ground, have assassinated or attempted to assassinate dissident sites in this country. Spy ring as well. We know regularly from reports back from mi6 about those operatives on the ground in this country. What if they wanted to get access to the likes of a Prime Ministers home that doesnt appear to enjoy much in the way of a level of security . Wait for him to go on holiday, climb over his fence and do whatever you want by the looks of things. But, mark, thank very much. Is thank you very, very much. Is mark white there . Our Home Security editor. Joining me now is was is norman brennan, who was a police 31 years. Police officer for 31 years. Norman, look great to have you on show. Firstly a word on on the show. Firstly a word on your quotes , former your quotes and quotes, former colleagues. It does appear to have long time for have taken quite a long time for them to this. Them to react to this. Personally, i find it incredulous that five protesters can climb on to not a local councillor, not one of our 652 mps, but our Prime Minister. The person that runs this country and represents his country , can and represents his country, can climb up onto his roof and be there for a number of hours before the police arrive. Just imagine for a minute that they were terrorists and they broke into the premises and they planted a bomb, well placed bomb. And at a later date, when mr sunak return and somebody on a motorbike or a van a mile away with binoculars saw that he was inside, detonated it and had it on their toes. I would like to think and im sure its the case that mr sunaks Close Protection team do a sweep of the premises before he enters. But just imagine if theyd missed that. Somebody theyd missed that. Somebody could have killed our Prime Minister. And i dont know what security is there, but you would have thought that there would have thought that there would have been cctv , there would have have been cctv, there would have been touch buttons around everywhere. And it would be monitored 24 over seven. Incredulous yeah, incredulous. And what yeah, incredulous. And what youve said there is a situation that has actually happened before, i think, hasnt it, with the brighton bombings. So its not 100 beyond the realms of possibility that Something Like that again. And it that could happen again. And it is going to increase the likes of terrorists or anyone whos that way inclined to go and do Something Like this. And norman, Something Like this. And norman, what should be done , though, what should be done, though, now . Because will the police say , well, our hands are tied , well, our hands are tied, weve turned up, weve talked them down. This is all this is all that we can do. What more all that we can do. What more can the law do , do you think, to can the law do, do you think, to put people off doing these things . Because at the moment we have an incredibly arrogant group of swivel eyed , kale group of swivel eyed, kale infused vegan eco warriors who just think nothing now about ruining peoples lives for their cause. Ruining peoples lives for their cause. Well patrick, just like cause. Well patrick, just like most murders , shooting stabbings most murders, shooting stabbings in london around britain in the aftermath , there will be a lot aftermath, there will be a lot of police presence. So the police will have a van and officers all around that premises for the foreseeable future. Its a bit like , god future. Its a bit like, god forbid, anything had happened. Forbid, anything had happened. Closing the gate after the horse has bolted. But theyre clear he needs to be a Major Overhaul of the Prime Minister and mps personal security. What i will say is this i look at this country , its lost, its broken. Country, its lost, its broken. Police in is not just broken, its shattered. Weve got people entering this country in their tens of thousands who we dont know who they are , where theyve know who they are, where theyve come from, and a group of terrorists could quite easily get in one of those boats, come over here and murder high profile people. We dont know who they are. Weve lost control of our streets. Weve lost control of our country. And when i say weve got lost control of our country, these groups, patrick, greenpeace , um, stop patrick, greenpeace, um, stop the oil and all of the Extinction Rebellion they are like domestic terrorists. They like domestic terrorists. They have taken over our streets. Have taken over our streets. Theyre untouchable. They get arrested, theyre released. They go back and do exactly the same as they did the day before. As they did the day before. There are a wire that they have pushed and not just pushed. Pushed and not just pushed. Theyve cut. Theyve cut through it. And guess what it is they want publicity. Guess what . Want publicity. Guess what . Were now currently giving them . I know , i know. This is this i know, i know. This is this is the tightrope that people like me walk , which is i wish like me walk, which is i wish that i could just ignore this law. And in fact, it has been a heck of a long time since ive had Just Stop Oil on this show. Im not sure im going to get them back on. But when people scale the Prime Ministers home and themselves and attach themselves to the roof it takes and roof and then it takes hours and it raises these serious it raises all these serious questions, i not it, questions, i cant not cover it, but hear what saying. But i hear what youre saying. I get saying this, dont get emails in saying this, dont give them publicity. Well, get emails in saying this, dont give tnot| publicity. Well, get emails in saying this, dont give tnot really ublicity. Well, get emails in saying this, dont give tnot really ublicitjtheirl, were not really giving their cause publicity, arent we . I think weve kind of absolutely slating think weve kind of absolutely slatwhat youre saying, norman. Get what youre saying, norman. Thank you very, very much. Norman brennan, there, whos police 31 year. Police officer for 31 year. Strong stuff. What you think strong stuff. What do you think . Of course . Gb views gbnews. Com of course theres more on this on our website. Any breaking developments . Course. Developments . Of course. Gbnews. Com. The fastest developments . Of course. Gbnews national the fastest developments . Of course. Gbnews National Newsastest developments . Of course. Gbnews National News site st growing National News site in the. 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Well, its a shocking total Patrick Christys on gb news. This is britains channel the terrorist who murdered tory mp sir david amess was given £100,000 in legal aid. Ali harbi ali admitted killing sir david back in 2021. Hed also plotted to kill other mps , including to kill other mps, including michael gove , barrister and michael gove, barrister and writer sir Stephen Barrett joins me now. Thank you very, very much. Always a pleasure to have you on the show. A lot of people get very angry about this, myself included, which is that absolute complete and utter wronguns who are often not even born in this country , by the born in this country, by the way, commit atrocities here, whether its murder, whether its terrorism , whether its its terrorism, whether its raping children and can get legal aid. And this just feels legal aid. And this just feels wrong. Wrong. Yes. Well, its a very emotional topic. And the only realistic response that i can give to say that it response that i can give to say thatitis response that i can give to say that it is our way of doing maybe i could explain why it is our way of doing things. Firstly, we dont give the money to the individual, so they they dont get it. Its spent around them on lawyers who represent them on lawyers who represent them. In this case, it looks as them. In this case, it looks as though about roughly half has gone to the solicitors and roughly half has gone to the barristers. Now its right that barristers. Now its right that i flag up that im not a criminal barrister, so its probably also right that i flag up that my type of lawyer is more expensive. So the government is getting a good deal on this type of lawyer. We do offer a rolls royce level of service and it will go to all all the romans and the reason that it does is because we want to protect good people who might accidentally end up in the system. So imagine i make system. So imagine i make a false allegation against you right now. We as a system are right now. We as a system are designed that you get immediate protection. You get what this protection. You get what this gentleman got, whether he deserved it or not, he got a duty solicitor at the police station. So right there at the police station, there will be a lawyer to protect you from wrongs in the police force who might and could exist. You or me, whod been a wrongun by making this false allegation, you protection immediately. You then get a law firm and then ultimately youd get barrister. In this particular case, it does look as though mean the individual involved has clearly tried to maximise the spend. We tried to maximise the spend. We have ended up with a seven day trial when it did look as though he actually pled guilty. I mean , thats a question for the trial judge and you should trust judges are judges generally. They are not trying increase legal costs. Trying to increase legal costs. I know if your viewers i dont know if your viewers know the most know this, but one of the most cunous know this, but one of the most curious features about lawyers is that they dislike is that they deeply dislike other lawyers they , upon other lawyers and they, upon elevation to the bench , any elevation to the bench, any judge immediately is convinced that every other lawyer in the world is earning too much world is earning far too much money. Become very, very money. So they become very, very interested in lowering the amount other amount of money that other lawyers and that judge lawyers receive. And that judge will have try to increase will not have a try to increase the legal spend that judge will have been trying to keep it under mean, think there under wraps. I mean, think there is a question if his defence was, well, look, im defending other that seems other muslims. Well that seems to me to be bad. Look but obviously judge obviously the trial judge thought it needed to go to a seven day trial. Yeah, they are the who make the call at the ones who make the call at the ones who make the call at the end of the day, there may well be reasons technically within criminal law why that needed happen , but nobodys needed to happen, but nobodys trying maximise the spend. Trying to maximise the spend. Thats something. Could i ask a question about some of the people who are coming across the channel at the moment who are claiming or at least somebody is claiming on their behalf things like ive suffered trauma at sea or whatever , whatever, whatever. Whatever, whatever, whatever. And then theyve lob a load of stuff at the home office to say, well, you cant possibly house them does not get them on this barge. Does not get paid for by legal aid. Paid for by legal aid. I think. I think immigration i think. I think immigration is publicly funded. Yes and i think its important that you ask these questions. By the way, theres a great feeling in my profession that that sort of its not for you ask these its not for you to ask these questions, but clearly for questions, but it clearly is for the these political the public. These are political decisions make. Decisions that you all make. Its clear that after the second world war, we made the decision to have a rolls royce public publicly legal system. We publicly funded legal system. We havent really looked at it in any deep way. Weve had nominal cuts to it, which of course have upset those whove been whove been cut. But its fair to say been cut. But its fair to say that those have not been very sophisticated. If we wanted to review how we approach the pubuc review how we approach the public spending, public spending on lawyers, we certainly can do that. And that is a matter for your viewers. That is a political opinion , which is the political opinion, which is the one thing i will not tell your viewers. But yes, viewers to have. But yes, i think that in immigration law, there may well be areas that people want to look to. And i would understand why people dont want public money wasted. And i can understand that. The contrary view is that its always good to fund lawyers. Always good to fund lawyers. These are political positions. I these are political positions. I wont pick one, but i think its right that you can ask these questions. I dont like the idea questions. I dont like the idea that you must shush and that youre not allowed to say things or that this is a matter for lawyers. Clearly not a matter for lawyers. Its clear its a matter for the public. The public is paying, if were public, has to decide. No, exactly. Its no, its not if were for and not if were paying for it. And its if this its also as well, if this problem only going problem is only to going get worse, worthwhile worse, its worthwhile having this now that we this discussion now so that we know the and then know all the facts. And then again, can a cost again, maybe we can do a cost benefit analysis as benefit analysis of it as a pubuc benefit analysis of it as a public and then decide, well, just the full facts. When just know the full facts. When we opinion about we formulate an opinion about something as emotive as that issue , see if we can just say issue, see if we can just say what an absolute pleasure it always is to have you on the show. Thank very, much. Always is to have you on the show. Stuff. < very, much. Always is to have you on the show. Stuff. And very, much. Always is to have you on the show. Stuff. And ivery, much. Always is to have you on the show. Stuff. And i hope much. Always is to have you on the show. Stuff. And i hope to much. Always is to have you on the show. Stuff. And i hope to chat ch. Great stuff. And i hope to chat to you very, very soon. Steven barrett there, who is barrister to you very, very soon. Steven barrat there, who is barrister to you very, very soon. Steven barra writer, who is barrister to you very, very soon. Steven barra writer, and is barrister to you very, very soon. Steven barra writer, and iis barrister to you very, very soon. Steven barra writer, and i thinkister to you very, very soon. Steven barra writer, and i think gber and a writer, and i think gb news viewers favourite legal eagles. You very much. Eagles. Thank you very much. Now, you are your 50s and now, if you are in your 50s and you earn some extra you want to earn some extra money, do you fancy getting on your bike right now and bringing me a takeaway . No no, i didnt think so. But that is what one government minister has suggested posted saying, well, if he needs a bit of a bit of extra cash, shes currently biking at speed start biking at speed and start delivering takeaways. Im sorry, delivering takeaways. Im sorry, but it is not the overfifties in this country who need to get on their bike. It is the government minister that came up with that idea. Also just say if idea. And can i also just say if they hiking interest they stopped hiking Interest Rates they started sorting rates and they started sorting this stop rates and they started sorting this money stop rates and they started sorting this money on stop rates and they started sorting this money on things like the wasting money on things like the people channel people coming across the channel and whole other things and a whole host of other things right wouldnt and a whole host of other things right get wouldnt and a whole host of other things right get to wouldnt and a whole host of other things right get to work|ldnt and a whole host of other things right get to work sort and a whole host of other things right get to work so that have to get back to work so that they taxed to high heaven they can be taxed to high heaven again to keep this country afloat. Discuss that afloat. And well discuss that shortly. Its shortly. But right now, its your polly. Potter. Thank you. The top stories thank you. The top stories this hour, the bank of england has raised its Interest Rate for the 14th time in a row. Its increasing from 5 to 5. 25. Thats the highest base rate since 2008. Meanwhile, the high street retailer wilko has warned its on the brink of collapse , its on the brink of collapse, putting around 12,000 jobs at risk. The homeware chain, which risk. The homeware chain, which has about 400 uk stores, has filed a notice of intention to appoint administrators at the high court , and five people have high court, and five people have been arrested after four greenpeace activists climbed onto the Prime Ministers roof before draping it in a black fabnc. Before draping it in a black fabric. The fifth person was fabric. The fifth person was later arrested on suspicion of causing a public nuisance in connection with the protest. More on all those stories by heading to our website, gbnews. Com. The weathers. Next gbnews. Com. The weathers. Next a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Im solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Im alex deakin and on. Gb news. Im alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. Some brighter spells out there today, but generally fairly and cloudy. Fairly cool and cloudy. A few heavy not as heavy showers around, not as wet as of course, as yesterday. Of course, that low pressure system has cleared away. There is another one brewing atlantic that brewing out in the atlantic that will and windy weather will bring wet and windy weather for saturday. But of that, for saturday. But ahead of that, for saturday. But ahead of that, for the rest of today, weve got a breeze bringing a northerly breeze bringing cloud rain cloud and outbreaks of rain across scotland. Across northern scotland. A few heavy showers this evening over southeast scotland and northeast england. Keep going england. Theyll keep going actually through the night. Many other be dry and other areas will be dry and clear , a slightly cooler night, clear, a slightly cooler night, perhaps than recent nights. But still temperatures mostly holding up in double figures, 11 to 14 celsius on to friday. And certainly in the west, a dry and a bright day by and large. But across these eastern areas, particularly eastern england, it will be quite a grey start. Further outbreaks of rain and then some heavy showers are possible developing through the afternoon across parts of lincolnshire, east anglia and the far southeast. Further west, most places dry and brightening up some decent spells of up with some decent spells of sunshine actually the winds will be so feeling be light as well. So feeling quite pleasant even though temperatures in high temperatures early in the high teens 20s. Behind me, teens or low 20s. Behind me, though, more wet though, youll notice more wet weather. This low pressure system intensify as it sweeps across country on friday across the country on friday night the west and spreading night in the west and spreading wet windy across wet and windy weather across many areas during saturday, sitting in the sitting brighter in the southwest later. But thats where the strongest winds will southwest later. But thats whewe he strongest winds will southwest later. But thats whewe do strongest winds will southwest later. But thats whewe do have gest winds will southwest later. But thats whewe do havegewarning will southwest later. But thats whewe do havegewarning out. Southwest later. But thats whewe do havegewarning out for be. We do have a warning out for those and for the heavy those winds and for the heavy rain ireland. Rain across northern ireland. Goodbye. Goodbye. A brighter outlook with boxt solar. Proud sponsors of weather on. On. Gb news over 50 should get back in the saddle and deliver takeaways to earn some extra cash. This isnt april fools day. No, thats the latest bright idea from the cabinet minister, mel stride. Can you imagine the ideas meeting . Do you reckon he was the spot there . What was put on the spot there . What are going to about about are we going to do about about the over 50 . Uh what they could deliveroo. They could just do deliveroo. They could just do deliveroo when theyre not getting into cyber, the work and pensions secretary says the economically inactive older people should seek new options charities to boost their household finances. All right. Household finances. All right. Former brexit party mep rupert lowe joins me now. Rupert, thank you very much. Wheres your bike . Well, hello, patrick. Its been a while. I havent got a bike. I have to say. Um but as you quite rightly say, this is an extraordinary story. I you quite rightly say, this is an extraordinary story. I mean, we all have to listen to these little men jumping up and making statements almost on a daily bafis statements almost on a daily basis because theyve got to sort of try and make it look as if theyre doing something. But but obviously, its good to have people working. Its good to have people paying tax. Whether have people paying tax. Whether the overfifties are the right people to be cycling around for deliveroo, i think is probably very questionable. Maybe be some of the people who are on in some form of benefit package. Maybe they should be doing some work with deliveroo. A lot of the with deliveroo. A lot of the overfifties like myself , i get overfifties like myself, i get my pension in october , you know, my pension in october, you know, weve weve basically had a lifetime of work. Weve been very fortunate. I think its time for the younger people to pick up some of the burden of working rather than trying to throw it on to the over 50s well, i agree. Or some people who just come to this country and then leech off it. I mean, were asking people who will be over 50, which by and large by and large will have had a career and will either be not in work more likely than not. More likely than not, because they can afford to not be in work , which afford to not be in work, which means they will have generated a huge amount of tax for this country over that or country over that time or theres some kind of illness right. There be small right. There will be a small percentage think, percentage of over 50, i think, who will they find it who will find say they find it impossible get a job but impossible to get a job but would like one. And you now would like one. And you are now asking people to asking a load of those people to voluntarily go and deliver pizza for greedy like me. I for greedy people like me. I dont really see how that is going to happen. Is it quite offensive, though, when we look at way economy is being at the way our economy is being run . Interest rate hikes yet again, the 14th time in a row were looking at our house pnces were looking at our house prices are seem have prices are we seem to have a startling lack of creativity from our treasury. I think you look idea and you think, look at this idea and you think, well , maybe why, because well, maybe this is why, because were run by idiots. We were being run by idiots. We are being basically directed by complete numpties patrick they have absolutely no idea. Most of them have never created wealth or done anything real in their lives. They spew rubbish and you know, theres another one this morning, a bit like you said earlier, i thought it was april fools day today when i read that somebody was being hired to spread the diversity and inclusion in the Falkland Islands on a package of 43 a year where youve got 3700 people who i think probably have got their feet more firmly on the ground than most people in westminster. So, i the ground than most people in westminster. So, i mean, famously , the argentinians tried famously, the argentinians tried to increase the diversity there for a while and it didnt end that well. So, yeah, it is groundhog day here. But, you know, i think Andrew Bailey, you know, i find him a he be there. The guy he shouldnt be there. The guy has made a complete mess of he raised rates far too slowly. Weve witnessed qe on a huge scale. We witnessed a flawed scale. We witnessed a flawed response to covid and now i think actually hes going to overcook it the other way. Patrick, i mean, youre seeing more insolvencies. Im seeing, more insolvencies. Im seeing, you know, the economy is definitely slowing down fast. And i think if were not very careful, given the fact we havent got a very big percentage of productive people and weve got a huge deadweight of Civil Servants and government, which is now accounting for nearly 50 of gdp. The whole thing could turn in on itself remarkably quickly. On itself remarkably quickly. And i also dont understand why the bank is so keen to put rates up when theyve got the biggest amount of borrowings. And every time they put rates up, what theyre doing is increasing the amount of interest theyve got to on the National Debt. To pay on the National Debt. Now this is a really , really now this is a really, really good and i just want to good point. And i just want to remind listeners remind our viewers and listeners that just moments that we are Just Moments Away from chancellor from hearing from the chancellor jeremy hunt himself right here on this show. So stay tuned for that. But you make a fascinating point there. And i think more people should be made aware of this when the bank of england increases the Interest Rate, they are also increasing basically the level of debt that we have as a country. So its not solving the problem , is it . Not solving the problem, is it . It is really making it worse. It is really making it worse. Well, the reform party, which which is, you know, im going to stand for the reform party in the next election. Weve been running our own modelling. I mean, we dont agree with any of the statist tactics the government statist tactics that theyre forecasting. We that theyre forecasting. We actually think National Debt on its current projections is going to be way, way over 100 rising to be way, way over 100 rising to sort of 115 of gdp. So we to sort of 115 of gdp. So we are you know, we are a country thatis are you know, we are a country that is rapidly disappearing down the gurgler. And unless we get some form of if you like, tax cuts , some form of tax cuts, some form of enterprise boost , some form of enterprise boost, some form of Margaret Thatcher style rejuvenation , then i can only rejuvenation, then i can only see us descending into financial chaos. I, ijust chaos. I, i just think its so offensive. I think we are a nafion offensive. I think we are a nation of little geniuses, right 7 nation of little geniuses, right . Whenever an issue is faced us, whenever an issue is faced us, we have produced the goods. Its not just in terms of the old trope of, well, we cracked the enigma code, didnt we . Alan turing look great. Brilliant. Fantastic. Look at us culturally. In terms fantastic. Look at us cu music. In terms fantastic. Look at us cu music. Look in terms fantastic. Look at us cu music. Look at in terms fantastic. Look at us cu music. Look at us in terms fantastic. Look at us cu music. Look at us just erms of music. Look at us just in terms of entrepreneurs. Were quick our were nimble. Quick on our feet. Were nimble. Weve got a great way working quick on our feet. Were nimble. Weyoperatingreat way working quick on our feet. Were nimble. Weyoperatingreat thinking. rking and operating and thinking. The british. And it just british population. And it just feels and were just free yourself for free. Let us go. Let us do it free. I know , but you know, i know, but you know, everything one tries to do and i was i was laughing this morning because were trying to build some new stables for fergal obrien. And the i mean, the planning system. Patrick if you could just see whats how deficient it is, its completely dysfunction full. Its full of people who are box tickers. And weve got to the stage now where the top of my farm is 700ft and the top of my farm is 700ft and the chap is talking about hes got a concern about the drainage. So weve been tipping thousands of gallons of water into holes today and watch into some holes today and watch it drain away. Well i said to it drain away. Well i said to them, gentlemen , if we flood at them, gentlemen, if we flood at 700ft, noahs coming back with the ark. So what . What are we wasting time for . So, you know, wasting time for . So, you know, weve got a very successful business thats being held back. They break all of their own guidelines. They are completely dysfunctional. And what does the conservative government do about it . Nothing. It should be, though, patrick, because i can tell if we dont get some tell you, if we dont get some form of driver for the economy, we we are going to descend we are we are going to descend into. Into chaos. But the solution to a lot of peoples issues here is, well , peoples issues here is, well, lets just have more immigration. Lets have lets have more immigration. Well keep wages artificially low. Keep wages artificially low. That will reduce inflation. Everybodys happy in any other line of work. Rupert, if you had line of work. Rupert, if you had to produce the kind of performance receipts that Andrew Bailey has got, you would be sacked and you would probably never work out. Rupert im just being told in my ear that i have. Youve been booted off for the chancellor, my good man. But but there we go. There we go. I dont like jeremy hunt, but ill let you go. Patrick. All right. Rupert low that Brexit Party Former Brexit Party Party mep, former brexit party mep now. Exactly. More now the yes, exactly. More now on the news bank england news that the bank of england have increased Interest Rates again on base rate has gone again on the base rate has gone up again on the base rate has gone p by again on the base rate has gone up by a quarter of 1 to 5. 25. And yes, we can now hear at length from jeremy hunt, our chancellor. Are you that we length from jeremy hunt, our chancellor. Are you that we can avoid a recession, particularly given that weve just had the 14th Interest Rate rise in little over 18 months . Well , the bank of england well, the bank of england forecast today say that we will avoid recession and in a years time well get inflation down to about at 3, 2. 8. I think is the number. So although its very tough when Interest Rates go up for families or for businesses that have got loans , what those that have got loans, what those forecasts are saying today is that if we stick to the plan, it is worth doing and we will end up with a soft landing and we can avoid a recession. But what youre talking about is a very fine judgement, which is what we pay fine judgement, which is what we pay the Monetary Policy committee to do completely independently of politicians, because we want to make sure they get it right. You and the they get it right. You and the Prime Minister have just granted 100 new drilling licences in the nonh 100 new drilling licences in the north sea for oil and gas. Some protesters have taken it upon themselves to scale the Prime Ministers personal residence in North Yorkshire in response to that decision, how would you describe those protesters, chancellor and that form of protest . Form of protest . Well, i would just say that protesters should obey the law and with respect to that decision , i would also point out decision, i would also point out that everyone says that in the transition to net zero, we are going to continue to use gas and gas from our own gas fields in the north sea. Uses about a third of the carbon of gas that you import from the other side of the world. So this is actually a pro climate, pro energy independence, sensible measure decision. Is that not a step too far to scale . The Prime Ministers house . Well, do i approve . Of course i dont. But they should obey the law. And its for the police to make sure they do. Nigel farage has been proved right, hasnt he . Coots did curtail his Bank Accounts for political reasons, as made clear in in the memo that. Political reasons, as made clear in in the memo that. The farage in in the memo that. The farage managed to get from coots. Weve seen the ceo of natwest and coots resign should the chairman of natwest now be considering his position . His position . Well, that is a matter for the natwest board. But what i know. Yeah, what i would say is that as a major shareholder in natwest , we were very concerned natwest, we were very concerned that after this error of judgement, which was conceded by natwest , they were following the natwest, they were following the course. They were. Why . Because in a free society, being able to say what you believe is a fundamental human right, but in the modern world we all need Bank Accounts. So if you have to worry that you might be expressing a view that someone in a bank doesnt agree with, you could lose your bank account. That has a Chilling Effect on free speech. That is not acceptable. It is also against the banking regulations. Its effectively against the law. So today ive written to the regulator that has the power to put big fines on banks , and ive put big fines on banks, and ive said i want to know, is this widespread . Was it a one off widespread . Was it a one off thing or is it more widespread . And what are we doing about it to make sure that banks obey the law . But the chairman backed his ceo, Howard Davies backed alison rose. Yes, kind of judgement. Rose. Yes, kind of judgement. Does that show . Well , you know, they changed well, you know, they changed their mind and the reality is that natwest got this wrong plain and simple. The board has taken action. What im now wanting to make sure is that this isnt more widespread because i think this would be a very, very big step in the wrong direction. And we need to stamp it out. If it is around a quarter of a million gb news years and listeners, chancellor have signed our dont kill cash petition because their concerned increasingly, particularly the elderly and vulnerable people, they cant use cash in the shops where they want to shop. Where they want to shop. What would you say to those people who are concerned that we mustnt kill cash . Would you encourage them to back our campaign . Campaign . I would say two things. I would say, first of all, any economy has to be run for the benefit of everyone , and that benefit of everyone, and that includes your most vulnerable, older people who may not have credit cards and depend on cash andifs credit cards and depend on cash and its very important they can Access Services in the way theyve always accessed them. So thats number one. Principle number two, principle all is relates to what we were talking about with nigel farage and de banking. For many people de banking. For many people there is an anonymity fee in the way they use cash , which is an way they use cash, which is an intrinsic part of being in a free society where corporations and the state it cant keep tabs on every single way that you spend money. So so yes, were moving to a more cashless society. Thats very convenient for lots of people. Its very good for lots of retailers. It good for lots of retailers. It had lots of advantages, but we need to bear those things in mind. And final question, we have, of course, a target in the uk that new petrol and diesel cars will be banned , sales of new will be banned, sales of new petrol, diesel cars by 2030. The eu have shifted that back to 2035. In the face of technology , local realities , practical , local realities, practical difficulties of rollout , the difficulties of rollout, the need to upgrade national grids. Why should uk motorists suffer more with an earlier deadline . Well , i more with an earlier deadline . Well, i think that deadline is important because it encourages a lot of investment such as the new gigafactory, the electric battery factory that Jaguar Land Rover said they would build just a few weeks ago in somerset. Thats going to create 4000 new jobs. So if you want to encourage that investment from all over the world, you have to have a clear deadline. But what the Prime Minister has said is that as we transition to electric vehicles , we need to do so in a way that is proportionate and sensible and takes account of the people who will still be driving vehicles that arent electric. Vehicles that arent electric. And so thats what the conservative approach is. We say, yes, were going to make this were to going do this change. Were to going do it sensibly. Are you sticking with 2030 . Were sticking with 2030, going do it 2030, but were going to do it in pragmatic way. In a pragmatic way. For chancellor, thanks for talking news. Thank you. Talking to gb news. Thank you. Right. We will. We learnt quite a lot there. Most notably that jeremy hunt could bring a tear to a glass. I bless him. Hes kind of got that tone of voice hasnt he, that a gp has. When theyre telling you that he needs lose weight. But lets needs to lose weight. But lets cross economics cross over to our economics and business liam Business Editor now, Liam Halligan reaction to our halligan for his reaction to our interview. Thank very interview. Liam, thank you very much. Yes so initially the reaction. To the 14th reaction. To the 14th consecutive Interest Rate rise, this is getting rather a lot of stick from rather a lot of people. People. Indeed. Thats why i asked the question at the top, patrick, about that Interest Rate rise , whether or not we can rate rise, whether or not we can avoid recession. The chancellor said, well, the bank of england says we are to going avoid recession. You know, if id have been a crueller journalist, id been a cruellerjournalist, id have the bank of have said, well, the bank of england ago england was saying a year ago that go into recession that we would go into recession and. So why were and we didnt. So why why were they are they right now, if they why are they right now, if they why are they right now, if they back but they were wrong back then . But clearly, chancellor and hes clearly, the chancellor and hes pretty deft on his on his feet, albeit a slightly robotic albeit in a slightly robotic style, as you say. But hes style, as you say. But hes trying to stay away from what the bank of england is doing. Hes trying to not own those Interest Rate rises, saying that the bank of england is independent. And i was trying to draw him off camera about whether or not he thought Interest Rates peaked. Interest rates had peaked. Hes obviously not saying that and he wouldnt ever say that. But its interesting that i think a lot of people in the city of london now are seeing pretty satisfied that we just had a 25 basis point rise rather than a 50 bafis point rise rather than a 50 basis point rise. And it may now be fingers and toes crossed, patrick, that well get no more Interest Rate rises from the bank of england. Lets wait until mid august, august the 16th, that next inflation 16th, when that next inflation number comes out. Thats for the year to the month of july. If thats significantly below 7. 9, where inflation currently is, it may be no more rate rises , no may be no more rate rises, no promises, but lets hope so. Promises, but lets hope so. You mentioned there about the people the city of london people of the city of london being quite happy about this. I mean, who are we really trying to here . Who is jeremy to please here . Who is jeremy hunt is it hunt trying to keep happy . Is it Andrew Bailey at the bank of england and, you know, other people in city . The city people in the city . The city types, or actually is it types, right. Or actually is it ordinary the public ordinary members of the public who frankly cough up for who frankly have to cough up for the that these people the decisions that these people make . Make . Thats right. You know , the thats right. You know, the chancellor is a very wealthy man. The Prime Minister is a very wealthy man. Theyll always going to have trouble connect meeting with real people when they say were in it together. A lot of the public will think, really, are you in together really, are you in it together with to have with us . Are you going to have trouble paying your mortgage . But i think he is you know , at but i think he is you know, at pains to try and make a connection with ordinary people. And why i think the and thats why i think the response to my question about Nigel Farages case, about banking was very, very important. That was a very strong reaction , saying that nigel is reaction, saying that nigel is completely right. He is concerned about whats been going on at coutts and indeed the Parent Company natwest and the Parent Company natwest and the real news revelation in that interview was that the chancellor now has written to the regulator, hes written to the regulator, hes written to the conduct authority the Financial Conduct Authority , the fca, off the back of our colleague Nigel Farages case of being debunked and hes asking the fca to do a root and branch review of the extent to which there is the banking across the economy, with people excluded from Banking Services because of their political views. Thats a pretty big development. Pretty big development. Yeah, no, it is absolutely massive actually. And that again is something that think will massive actually. And that again is sortheiing that think will massive actually. And that again is sorthe doorsiat think will massive actually. And that again is sorthe doors off think will massive actually. And that again is sorthe doors off for nk will massive actually. And that again is sorthe doors off for a will massive actually. And that again is sorthe doors off for a lot ll massive actually. And that again is sorthe doors off for a lot of blow the doors off for a lot of people because they will realise , oh, i was debunked. And i also do think well it will, it do think as well it will, it will show that if its revealed as we expect it to be the true extent of this, will show extent of this, it will show that there is a very real cancel culture actually happening right in our banking said look liam , in our banking said look liam, thank you very, very much. Great to have you on. Of course ill be talking to you again quite shortly. Liam halligan, shortly. Ashley Liam Halligan, our economics and business edhon our economics and Business Editor. The of editor. Hes in the city of london sitting down with london who is sitting down with Jeremy London who is sitting down with jeremon that, more on that, more on that, more on that, because there were more because there were some more revelations about 20 revelations in in about 20 minutes time. Now five greenpeace been greenpeace activists have been arrested climbed onto arrested after they climbed onto the rishi sunak home in the roof of rishi sunak home in nonh the roof of rishi sunak home in North Yorkshire look North Yorkshire today. Look should eco terrorists should they be eco terrorists now . Have they the way for now . Have they paved the way for other idiots and extreme ists to go and behave similarly . What go and behave similarly . What the flipping heck are our Security Services playing . And get a load of this as well. You know those ukrainian women and children who are fleeing an actual war zone . Yeah, apparently. Apparently were going boot them out. So that going to boot them out. So that we can make more room for young fighting males whove just fighting age males whove just come across the channel illegally. And were already illegally. And were already booting military booting people off military bases everything. Bases. Were doing everything. Were families were booting ordinary families out council houses. Were out of council houses. Were doing there doing all sorts. Yeah. Is there nothing that we wont do for people who enter this country illegally . Why are there human rights worth more than everybody elses . Patrick christys gb news british news channel. The temperatures rising in boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Im alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news some brighter spells out there today, but generally fairly cool and cloudy. Few heavy showers cloudy. A few heavy showers around, not as wet as yesterday, of course , that pressure of course, that low pressure system away. There system has cleared away. There is one brewing out in is another one brewing out in the atlantic will wet the atlantic that will bring wet and weather for saturday. And windy weather for saturday. But that, for the rest but ahead of that, for the rest of today, weve got a northerly breeze bringing cloud and outbreaks across outbreaks of rain across northern scotland. A few heavy showers this evening over southeast scotland and northeast england. Keep going england. Theyll keep going actually through the night. Many other will be dry and other areas will be dry and clearer , a slightly cooler clearer, a slightly cooler night, perhaps than recent nights, still temperatures nights, but still temperatures mostly holding up in double figures, 11 to 14 celsius. On to friday. And certainly in the west , a dry and friday. And certainly in the west, a dry and a bright day, by and large. But across these eastern areas , particularly eastern areas, particularly eastern areas, particularly eastern england, it will be quite a grey start , further quite a grey start, further outbreaks of rain and then some heavy showers are possible developing through the afternoon across lincolnshire , across parts of lincolnshire, east the far east anglia and the far south east, further west, most places dry and brightening up with decent spells of with some decent spells of sunshine actually the winds will be light as well. So feeling quite pleasant even though temperatures the temperatures are only in the high low 20s behind me, high teens or low 20s behind me, though, wet though, youll notice more wet weather low pressure system weather this low pressure system intensifying sweeps across intensifying as it sweeps across the country on friday night in the country on friday night in the spreading and the west and spreading wet and windy weather across many areas dunng windy weather across many areas during saturday day, turning brighter in the southwest later. But strongest but thats where the strongest winds have winds will be. We do have a warning out for those and warning out for those winds and for the heavy rain across northern ireland. Goodbye the temperatures rising. Boxt the temperatures rising. Boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news. Its 5 pm. Its Patrick Christys. Its gb news. Choose one place to start today, and that is, of course, this. The greenpeace as well. Are they eco terrorists . They climbed onto terrorists . They climbed onto rishi sunak roof. When will it rishi sunak roof. When will it end . Youve got some images there on your computer screens and screens, and on your tv screens, etcetera, of them scaling rishi sunak draping the black sunak house, draping the black banners down Rishi Sunak Oil profits are our future. Theyre saying , should politicians saying, should politicians houses be off limits . Should weddings be off limits . I want weddings be off limits . I want to know whether or not it is time now to crack down hard on groups like these people and basically class them as eco terrorists and shatter their organisations. Terrorists and shatter their organisations. When will it end . Organisations. When will it end . But yes , theres more of this as but yes, theres more of this as well. We are going be well. We are going to be discussing Interest Rate discussing the Interest Rate rise for the 14th time jeremy rise for the 14th time is jeremy hunt on top of his brief . Does the governor of the bank of england need to go . What on earth is going on . Are we actually by more ons . Actually being led by more ons . Im also going to be chatting about this now. Ukrainians women and children for the vast majority of them, its women and children who came here, moved into houses , were given into peoples houses, were given some kind of accommodation. They werent the way, werent complaining, by the way, werent complaining, by the way, were housed on were they, about being housed on some no, of course, some barges . No, of course, because were fleeing war. Because they were fleeing war. Well, it looks like were actually to boot out actually going to boot them out within the next year and it will give us more room to accept young fighting age who young fighting age males who have across have illegally entered across the channel. There nothing the channel. Is there nothing that we wont do for the people who to come here illegally who seem to come here illegally on the small boats . Are they some kind protected species . Some kind of protected species . Because were because it appears like were prioritising over everybody prioritising them over everybody else . Patrick christys on. Gb else . Patrick christys on. Gb news few of the bits and bobs that go out as well. Gb views a gbnews. Com is that email address . I am going to go in by asking whether or not we should now be classing some of these eco warriors as eco terrorists and just saying should politicians houses be off limits . Are there anything that should be off limits . The clock is be off limits . The clock is ticking in their minds towards the isnt it . I the doomsday event, isnt it . I worry theyre going to get more and more extreme gb views gbnews. Com. But polly, now with your headlines. Patrick thank you. Good evening. Well, the top story today , the bank of england has today, the bank of england has raised its Interest Rate for the 14th time in a row. Its increasing it from 5 to 5. 25. And thats the highest base rate since 2008. The bank says it expects inflation, though, to be halved by the end of the year. One of the governments key priorities as the increase puts pressure on borrowers, mortgage holders and households struggling with budgets. The struggling with budgets. The chancellor, jeremy hunt, says the governments plan, though, is working and any rise in Interest Rates is a worry for families with mortgages, for businesses with loans. But underneath that decision is a forecast that says that this Time Next Year, inflation will be 2. 8 and we will have avoided recession action. And what the bank of england governor is saying is that we have a plan that is bringing down inflation solidly , robustly down inflation solidly, robustly and consistent. Lee but the and consistent. Lee but the shadow chancellor, Rachel Reeves, says the government does need to take action as well. The rate rise that weve seen today is just another hammer blow to families across the country who are seeing their mortgages increase when it comes to remortgaging, at the moment, a family thats looking to remortgage their property is going to be paying on average more than £200 extra every single month. And for some people, its much more than that. Now, of course, the bank of england have independence and thats as it should be. But the government needs to take responsibility the fact that responsibility for the fact that inflation the uk is much inflation in the uk is much higher than it is in comparable countries. Countries. Well, the bank of england also says food prices are likely to remain high for the rest of the year, whilst it says theres wide agreement that food Price Inflation has now peaked and should fall by the end of the yean should fall by the end of the year, it could take time for the reduction to hit the shelves, meaning all the high street retailer wilko has warned its on the brink of collapse, putting around 12,000 jobs at risk. The boss of the homeware chain says it expects to go into insolvency after failing to secure a takeover to help the business with mounting cash pressures. Wilko which has pressures. Wilko which has around 400 uk stores, has filed around 400 uk stores, has filed a notice of intention to appoint administrators at the high court. Residents of crawley in sussex are disappointed by the news. Its very bad , very bad. Its very bad, very bad. Its very bad, very bad. Its very bad, very bad. Its a shame. Its a shame. Its a shame. What do you thinks gone wrong . Wrong . Goodness only knows. Goodness only knows. Goodness only knows. I went to uni. I went to uni. I went to uni. I actually shopped here so i think it could be management error management mistakes. Know. Walking round. I dont know. Walking round. I dont know. Walking round. I dont know. Walking round. I wondered if that was the case. Why its just so empty. Why its just so empty. Oh, that is devastating because i. I do a lot of shopping here because theyre very good. Actually, you know, the thing ive found here, i couldnt find it in bank. Now now, as youve been hearing for activists that scaled the Prime Ministers home in North Yorkshire have been arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage and causing a public nuisance. A fifth person has nuisance. A fifth person has also been arrested on suspicion of causing a public nuisance and remains in police custody. The remains in police custody. The protesters draped rishi sunaks home in black fabric in protest against the 100 new north sea oil and gas licences which have been granted by him. He says he wont apologise for supporting that exploration. Well, the deputy Prime Minister, Oliver Dowden, has defended the governments plans. Governments plans. Most people would say, can you stop the stupid stuff . You stop the stupid stuff . Thats actually what they want to see from government is action. The question is do we produce it here where we get more tax , we create more jobs, more tax, we create more jobs, or do we do what the labour party and others say, which is say no more investment in our nonh say no more investment in our north sea oil and gas. That means fewer jobs here and more means fewerjobs here and more reliance on less Stable Energy, which is shipped into this country. I dont think thats a sensible approach and its not one this government is going to take. Alex wilson from greenpeace says the Prime Minister does need to choose a side. Need to choose a side. Were all here because rishi sunak has opened the door for a new drilling frenzy in the north sea. While large parts of our sea. While large parts of our world are literally on fire, this will be a disaster for the climate. It wont lower energy climate. It wont lower energy bills. Its not climate. It wont lower energy bills. Its not going to climate. It wont lower energy bills. Its not going to boost bills. Its not going to boost our Energy Security. The only our Energy Security. The only people that are to going profit from this at all are the big oil companies. Companies. The deputy Prime Minister says Asylum Seekers will be on the bibby stockholm barge in the coming weeks. The first group of migrants was originally scheduled to move into the controversial accommodate ocean in dorset on tuesday. The delay in dorset on tuesday. The delay was caused by issues surrounding the health and safety of port workers and not fire safety. Oliver dowden says hes confident the problems can be addressed after firefighters had warned the vessel was, according to them, a potential death trap. The science secretary has accused a labour mp of misleading the public after he shared a fake image of the Prime Minister. Shared a fake image of the Prime Minister. The mp for hull east carl turner, posted a doctored picture showing rishi sunak at a beer festival with a badly pulled pint and a woman in the background , seemingly looking on background, seemingly looking on disapprovingly. Background, seemingly looking on disapprovingly. Michelle donelan disapprovingly. Michelle donelan has described sharing the deep fake image as pretty desperate stuff by labour. Mr turner later said he hadnt realised the image was fake. This is gb news image was fake. This is gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. Back now to. Patrick news. Back now to. Patrick nothing is off limits for eco activists and its time that we class them as eco terrorists. Today greenpeace went round to the home of a serving Prime Minister, broke onto his property, climbed his walls and sat on his roof. Well, its been well documented that rishi sunak is on holiday with his family, but that is not the point. They didnt know who could have been in there if theyd have been kids, elderly relatives , it kids, elderly relatives, it would been absolutely would have been absolutely terrifying. Dont care terrifying. Now, i dont care how passionately you feel about something , you have no right to something, you have no right to invade somebodys property. Politicians homes should be off limits. That should go without saying. So should their weddings even if it does happen to be george have no george osborne. This lot have no limits. What next . They turn up at a christening. Prince Georges School sports day funerals. I think groups who funerals. I think groups who commit actions like this could legitimately be classed as terrorists or terror groups. The cps is terror definition includes endangering a persons life other than that of the person committing the action, creating a serious risk to the health or safety of the public, or a section of the public. So there we go. Now, my concern is that people like this keep getting bolder and bolder and bolder. And the psychology of bolder. And the psychology of some these people is some of these people is absolutely primed and ready to go for a serious attack. I go for a serious attack. I regularly interview. Just stop oil protesters, for example, who hysterically scream about why they wont have children because unless we act now, the world is going to end. A lot of them are fanatics who do not believe anything is off limits because we are facing a doomsday scenario. Dont be fooled by some smiling vegans. Some stunts some smiling vegans. Some stunts are a form of mafia style intimidation. If you dont do what we want , we will turn intimidation. If you dont do what we want, we will turn up at your to house send you a message. If you dont do what we want, well ruin your wedding. Its mob boss stuff. And like i said , they will keep getting said, they will keep getting more extreme. But what they have more extreme. But what they have doneis more extreme. But what they have done is expose a gaping flaw in our National Security, havent they . Can you imagine this kind of stunt happening at the us president s home . Theyd have been shot on sight before scaling the garden fence. The same goes, of course , for the same goes, of course, for the french president , emmanuel macron. It was reportedly hours before the police were even alerted to this. Then more hours until they talk them down. Now i worry that we have just served up a green light to fanatics to go and attack whoever they want, turn up at a celebrity or a politicians house. Therell be no secure city. The police wont be there for hours. Just have at it. Do you remember, sir david amess stabbed to death while doing a public surgery . Jo cox was killed in the street. Not us. Could look at the actions of greenpeace and others like them and be more likely to commit atrocities. These eco zealots rely on the British Public being decent and not battering them. They rely on soft british justice to let them carry on with it, and yet they dont behave like they actually have any sense of british decency or values themselves. Gb views the values themselves. Gb views the gb news. Com values themselves. Gb views the gbnews. Com email. We get those emails coming in, but look after the protesters also disrupted the protesters also disrupted the wedding of former chancellor george osborne. Should there be a crackdown on a more serious crackdown on these protesters if they pose a serious Security Risk . I want to ask what should be considered off limits for these eco protests. So joining us now is the scientist for Extinction Rebellion is pete knapp. And mark hoath from reform uk. Pete, mark hoath from reform uk. Pete, i will start with you. What is off limits, do you think , for off limits, do you think, for eco activists . Eco activists . Thats a good question. I think youre right in questioning this. I mean, when the Prime Ministers house is being scaled by people. Yeah, thats a thats a serious Security Threat and something which i would like to ask is what are the National Security threats in the uk at the moment . And the National Risk register 2023 they had terrorism within the next two years, costing about £90 billion as a projection , whereas in climate projection, whereas in climate related over the next five years is 65 billion, with fatalities in exceeding 2000in their report. But we know from last yean report. But we know from last year, for example, 56,000 people in the in england and wales died from the heat wave. So yeah, in terms of National Security , we terms of National Security, we have a lot to think about, but its predominantly a related to climate climate related things for example, like 90 of the items in the, in the National Risk register related to the climate situation. So yeah, youre right. I mean, when we look at these kinds of things, we think, well, what, how would it have been if these people had had right . But what i had an uzi . Right . But what i would as as would like to reframe this as as rishi sunak having the uzi using oil. I get that. And im sure im sure you would like to reframe it as that. And i do understand where youre coming from. You know, for you, the environment is the big thing, right . But im just going to ask im going to ask mark oath to ask mark now. Mark oath to inform uk. I mean, clearly inform the uk. I mean, i clearly im much on the side of you im very much on the side of you should not rock up at someones house wedding or house or their wedding or christening or a funeral for goodness and calls this goodness sake, and calls this kind of disruption. You know, should this be considered should should this be considered off kosher as off limits . Its not kosher as well. Well. Absolutely. Of course, its off limits. I mean , the thing off limits. I mean, the thing is, first of all, the events of this morning, i mean, thats breaking and entering. So its breaking and entering. So its against the law to start off with, you know, Extinction Rebellion talk about doing civil disobedience , um, in a non disobedience, um, in a non violent way, but breaking into somebodys house and sitting on their roof and furling banners is just completely out of order. And weve had this all summer havent we. Well, all summer and sort of at the back end of spring with just stop spoiling sporting Just Stop Oil spoiling sporting events, know, Just Stop Oil, events, you know, Just Stop Oil, you know, ruining things like, you know, ruining things like, you know, ruining things like, you know, the cricket, the snooker , you know, weve had snooker, you know, weve had this way along the this right the way along the line. Now, these people, what they to do they need to they need to do is they need to stand stand for stand up and stand for parliament and see how many stand up and stand for parliathatt and see how many stand up and stand for parliathat they see how many stand up and stand for parliathat they get how many stand up and stand for parliathat they get forw many stand up and stand for parliathat they get for their, 1y votes that they get for their, you frankly , rather you know, frankly, rather extreme policies. You know, thats the bottom line with it. Patrick and pete , ill throw patrick and pete, ill throw it back to you because youve just rattled off some statistics there. Right. Do speak to there. Right. And i do speak to quite a few members just stop quite a few members of Just Stop Oil do various Different Oil as they do various different bits bobs, they appear bits and bobs, and they appear to me anyway, to be getting increasingly hysterical. And as this Doomsday Clock is ticking , this Doomsday Clock is ticking, if people who really buy into what i might refer to as climate alarmism , sometimes these people alarmism, sometimes these people who really into that, the who really buy into that, the clock ticking. And i think clock is ticking. And i think that justifies more and more and more extreme levels of action. And thats what im worried about. How long is it before people start dying at their hand and not because theyre all burned death . Burned to death . Well, is the thing yeah, well, this is the thing. Im a scientist, but we know the government is treating science with contempt that we have the International Energy agency saying no new fossil fuels to align to 1. 5. We have the un spiralling saying that were spiralling towards global boiling. We have the highest temperatures in human existence. Its catastrophically low. Antarctic winter ice and you speak to anyone whos just come back from holiday in spain or greece or turkey, and theyll tell you what is really happening. Im going to stop you there. Those fires were arson , and i those fires were arson, and i was greece at the time. And was in greece at the time. And the greek media was reporting on it being arson. And only it being arson. And it was only people here and various people over here and various different places across people over here and various differerwhere places across people over here and various differerwhere they es across people over here and various differerwhere they decideds people over here and various differerwhere they decided to europe where they decided to ignore that and it was ignore that and say it was climate change. I just ask climate change. Can i just ask satellite show . This is according society according to the Royal Society satellite show since satellite show that since the early 2000s, of the early 2000s, when 3 of the world was on fire, caught fire, thats down now to 2. 2. And wildfires are lower to thirds of the Great Barrier reef is now experiencing record high coral growth. We have more polar bears than we did ten years ago. Are people being quite selective with the science . P and getting very, very worked up because as ive just proved and youve just proved, we can both quote stats and they both be completely and they can both be completely different. Sure what im going to disagree with you on many of those things, to not say that what youre saying is false, but im saying that there is a chance, there is a danger here cherry there is a danger here of cherry picking. Is exactly picking. And this is exactly whats with the with whats happening with the with the government. Whats happening with the with the saying government. Whats happening with the with the saying g0\you nent. Whats happening with the with the saying g0\you know, theyre saying that, you know, that oil and gas is going to that new oil and gas is going to be serving our National Security, Energy Security right. This is the kind of stuff that theyre when you theyre saying. But when you actually scrutiny this for a second, we realise that thats totally we export 80 of totally wrong. We export 80 of what we kept from the north sea. We import most of the gas from norway, not from russia. Norway, not from russia. Scotland produces six times more gas than it needs. And any new fossil fuels now come online in about ten years. Okay all right. Look, mark, ill throw it to you because when i look at some of these things, i hear stats like that. You know, i also hear as well, various different figures that ive got here, like solar here, for example, like solar and deliver less than 4 of and wind deliver less than 4 of europes energy. That europes total energy. That leaves me quite fearful the leaves me quite fearful for the future we future is whether or not we could up being could end up being self sufficient or living in the dark moss for the dark on beds of moss for the rest our lives just to rest of our lives just to appease people. Mark, whats your take on whether or not we should now actually be doing more to appease some of these enviro mentalists . Enviro mentalists . No, because the thing is, i mean, lets just pick up on the points around the you know, the, uh, the temperatures that were just and just talked just discussed and just talked about. Being in about. I can remember being in greece was 44 greece in 1986. It was 44 degrees, you know, exactly the same as what was being predicted by the bbc weather last week. And actually, it never actually turned out to be at that level either. So lets just be clear either. So lets just be clear on that. Theres a lot of false narrative going on around this, you know, with red weather you know, with the red weather maps know, the whole maps and, you know, the whole doomsday scenario around it to start off with. So, no, we shouldnt be appeasing them whatsoever. You know its whatsoever. You know its hysterical for the point of being hysterical. And as i say, thats thats the thats the big problem. Now its all very well going to sit on rishi sunak house. You know we contribute 1 of this 1 of co2 china , you of this 1 of co2 china, you know, contributes a lot, lot more than that. Now, i dont more than that. Now, i dont think theyll be going to sit on that. That is a point. That is a point. And unfurling. They wouldnt last very long if they were starting to do that, would they, pete . That is a point that is a point. I actually seriously do think and joking aside, im think and all joking aside, im being serious now. I do honestly think, pete, that a lot more ordinary brits would have more respect like respect for groups like greenpeace Just Stop Oil and greenpeace and Just Stop Oil and dare say, Extinction Rebellion dare i say, Extinction Rebellion as they and tried as well. If they went and tried this the chinese embassy, this on at the chinese embassy, you have go china you wouldnt have to go to china , you know, are you picking , you know, why are you picking soft this . , you know, why are you picking softyeah, this . , you know, why are you picking softyeah, i, this . , you know, why are you picking softyeah, i, i this . , you know, why are you picking softyeah, i, i can his . , you know, why are you picking softyeah, i, i can sympathise yeah, i, i can sympathise with the idea because when we look at chinas emissions, we do think, well, thats out off the scale. But we got to ask ourselves why are their emissions off the scale and where do we buy everything that we in uk . I mean, thats we get in the uk . I mean, thats one thing. The thing one thing. But the second thing is cumulative emissions from is the cumulative emissions from china the last years china over the last 150 years is minuscule compared with what in the uk. Thats because the highest in the world. Yeah, but thats to be fair. Pete, you did talk earlier on about cherry picking figures as well, you . And because well, didnt you . And because china is not cherry picking, well, it is because china is massively industrialised. In the recent , so have to recent times, so we have to spread it over, have spread it on over, have to consider per person. Consider emissions per person. Not like its not its not like its not emissions us as country emissions us as a country because then the biggest countries obviously are going to emit most and china is one emit the most and china is one of biggest countries the of the biggest countries in the world. So have to compare it world. So we have to compare it to population , the size to the population, not the size of if i turned of the country. Look if i turned up your house, right, and up at your house, right, and scaled house and sat on scaled your house and sat on your roof rocked up your your roof or rocked up at your wedding ruined wedding and just ruined it or did whatever, i was did whatever, because i was saying, you know, youve saying, pete, you know, youve made me get a new heat pump or ive to sell my car and get ive had to sell my car and get an electric car and im skint. I cant my kids. How i cant feed my kids. How would that . Would you feel about that . Well, if someone were to come to my house with a with a genuine concern as as people did just for just a genuine concern as as people did just forjust a group of people just for just a group of people infiltrated Just Stop Oil party. Right. They had some balloons with helium balloons with a with a siren on them and let them off in the hall. Total disrupted it. How did the Just Stop Oil rigs going around to someones house tweeted well done. Not the same. Look pete, its not the same as going round to someones home. I dont care how much or of much money hes got or any of this you know, his wife this stuff. You know, his wife and feel same and kids will not feel the same in this. In that house after this. I wouldnt feel the same in that house after this. I dont think thats right. Think there are thats right. I think there are limits thank you limits to it. Look, thank you very of you. We could very much, both of you. We could talk this all day and. Talk about this all day and. Well, talk about this all day and. Weihow are the people going to how are the people going to feel out of feel when theyre flooded out of their homes . How are people going to feel when their houses burned to when their houses are burned to the a very, very the ground . This is a very, very different its going to be fascinating. I think going to be i do think its going to be fascinating see you fascinating to see how you would feel you proven wrong in feel if you are proven wrong in a few years time, actually, and youre going to have lot of youre going to have a lot of humble to eat. But well humble pie to eat. But well have to wait. Me on. Id be id be get me on. Id be id be thrilled wrong. Thrilled if i was wrong. So would everyone really. So would everyone else fair. But thank else to be fair. But pete, thank you pete. Now, of you very much. Pete. Now, of course, scientists for course, the scientists for Extinction Rebellion and mark, whos lively whos of reform uk, look lively stuff the hour stuff at the top of the hour now. The Interest Rate at now. The Interest Rate is at its highest level for 15 years. But chancellor hunt has told highest level for 15 years. But cha newsyr hunt has told highest level for 15 years. But cha news that hunt has told highest level for 15 years. 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A delegation of british imams , including an nhs chaplain, have been photographed alongside a taliban minister in afghanistan who has boasted about Enlightening Minds about jihad. The imam says that he is on a charity trip, but that charity was previously investigated for links to individuals associated with terror group al qaeda. Tonight we ask should an nhs chaplain be meeting ministers in taliban controlled afghanistan . The full controlled afghanistan . The full story at seven only on. Story at seven only on. Gb news. Well, in just a few moments time, i will discuss the news that 100,000 ukrainian refugees could be kicked out of britain when their visas run out and that , of course, will allow us that, of course, will allow us to make room for more people whove just arrived across the channel. Theres no end to the amount of people who will suffer for us to throw our arms around illegal channel migrants. Its bonkers , it . Absolutely bonkers, isnt it . Absolutely bonkers. Now on the bonkers. But more now on the news that the bank of england have Interest Rate news that the bank of england hav again Interest Rate news that the bank of england hav again. Interest rate news that the bank of england havagain. The Interest Rate news that the bank of england havagain. The base 1terest rate news that the bank of england havagain. The base rate st rate news that the bank of england havagain. The base rate haste yet again. The base rate has gone up by a quarter of 1 to 5. 25. Now, earlier , our 5. 25. Now, earlier, our economics and Business Editor Liam Halligan asked the chancellor, jeremy hunt , whether chancellor, jeremy hunt, whether we would avoid a recession , give we would avoid a recession, give england forecasts today , say england forecasts today, say that we will avoid recession and in a years time well get inflation down to about 3, 2. 8. I think is the number. So low, although its very tough when Interest Rates go up for families or for businesses that have got loans. What those have got loans. What those forecast are saying today is that if we stick to the plan, it is worth doing and we will end up with a soft landing and we can avoid a recession. But what youre talking about is a very fine judgement, which is what we pay fine judgement, which is what we pay the Monetary Policy committee to do completely independently of politicians, because we want to make sure they get it right. You and the Prime Minister. You and the Prime Minister. Well, there we go. Lets cross over now to our economics and Business Editor Liam Halligan for his reaction. Liam, thank you very much. It feels like only 20 minutes ago that i was talking to you back again now, right . Okay. So hes now, right . Okay. Yes. So hes confident are going to avoid confident we are going to avoid a. I just really a recession. I just dont really think that is going to make think that that is going to make that too much that many people feel too much better not better because theyre not really notice huge really going to notice a huge impact personal impact in their personal finances , are they . No finances right now, are they . No theyre not. Look, the bank of england is saying that britain will avoid recession. Thats two successive recession. Thats two successive quarters of negative growth in general , the uk economy has been general, the uk economy has been pretty resilient. A year ago, the bank of england was saying the bank of england was saying the uk would go into a recession and they were wrong. Then i dont think theyll be wrong now. I do think we could avoid a recession. I think it would have been a lot worse. We seen been a lot worse. Have we seen a 50 point, half point 50 basis point, half point interest rise from the bank Interest Rate rise from the bank of england today, but it was just a quarter point. But it is the 14th successive rise. And what it means, patrick, is if youve a £200,000 mortgage youve got a £200,000 mortgage and over a 25 year term and and its over a 25 year term and your current rate of interest is about six, 6. 25, this extra Interest Rate rise if your mortgage provider passes it to on you as the borrower, its going to cost you about £30 a month extra. Just todays month extra. Just todays decision, 3 to £400 more for a year for, you know, the vast majority of families. Patrick, thats serious money. And thats why a lot of people now are calling for these Interest Rate rises to stop, stop raising Interest Rates, because unless if we have many more Interest Rate rises, i do think the bank of england will drive the uk into recession. Into recession. Yeah, but that is a staggering turn of phrase, isnt it, that the bank of england will drive the uk into recession . I mean, thats the opposite of what its supposed to do, isnt it . Really well, the bank of england would argue that the most important thing is to get inflation down because if you have inflation for a really long time, you get a recession anyway , because inflation means that Business Investment stops. It means that consumers cost of living crisis gets worse. It means we have less disposable income. It means the wages that we earn, unless were lucky enough to get a big chunky pay rise, they have less purchasing power so we can spend less money at the shops. So unless they get into flation down, the bank of england would say, were to going go into recession anyway. Going go into recession anyway. But i must just mention also Something Else which the chancellor said to me, which we played in the last hour. We didnt we didnt play it just then, understandably so. Let me just it is big just say it, because it is a big story gb news. I asked story for gb news. I asked chancellor jeremy story for gb news. I asked chancellorjeremy hunt if he chancellor jeremy hunt if he thought nigel farage was right. That cuts did de banking him for political purposes. Liz and i political purposes. Liz and i asked him what he thought about the case in general and the chancellor said straight the chancellor said straight off the bat, of course nigel bat, yes, of course nigel farage was right. Cuts did de banking for political reasons. And more than that, patrick the chancellor off the back of this, Nigel Farage Campaign about his personal de banking and other people being debunked for political reasons has today. He revealed to me , written to the revealed to me, written to the regulator , the financial conduct regulator, the Financial Conduct Authority , making his concerns authority, making his concerns about the case clear, making his concerns about what cuts and their Parent Company, natwest , their Parent Company, natwest, did clear they were wrong , he did clear they were wrong, he said to me, and he wants a root and branch review across the banking industry. Of the extent to which we are not. We are losing Banking Services because of political reasons. Just today of political reasons. Just today it was revealed by the newspaper that i write for the telegraph that i write for the telegraph that some groups that promote hunting in the countryside, not not be albeit drag hunting, not hunting with hounds to foxes, but drag hunting. Theyve been using some up services to take payments and contributions when they hold fairs and other community events. And theyve been debunked as well. And theyre not doing anything illegal at all. They may be doing things that are distasteful to some urban liberals , but these are decent liberals, but these are decent people from the countryside and theyve also been debunked. So this a major, problem this is a major, major problem that nigel farage and gb news have unearthed and brought to pubuc have unearthed and brought to public attention , ian and that public attention, ian and that is Public Service broadcasting. Oh, yes, it is indeed. Liam thank you very, very much. Its Liam Halligan there. Our economics and Business Editor. I think as well, the urban liberals. It think as well, the urban liberals. It sounds like a band, doesnt it . The name up next is the urban liberals anyway, right between i will between now and 6 00, i will discuss the shock news that 100 in not shocked. Ill in fact, im not shocked. Ill tell its that because tell you why. Its that because 100,000 ukrainian refugees , 100,000 ukrainian refugees, which realistically we know are actual women and children fleeing an actual zone , fleeing an actual war zone, could be kicked out of the uk when visas run out. You when their visas run out. You know why im not shocked . Because it appears me that because it appears to me that the protect species of the most protect species of anybody in britain right now is somebody who has just crossed the channel illegally. You cant the channel illegally. You cant youre untouchable. You get free everything. Everybody else has to make way. Everybody else has to make way. Everybody else has to suffer. Why what is going on . But right now, as your headlines with polly middlehurst. Patrick with polly middlehurst. Patrick thank you. The top stories this hour, the bank of england has raised its Interest Rate for the 14th time a its increasing time in a row. Its increasing from 5 to 5. 25. Thats the highest base rate since 2008. High street retailer wilko has warned its on the brink of collapse, putting around 12,000 jobs at risk. The homeware jobs at risk. The homeware chain, which has around 400 uk stores, has filed a notice of intent to appoint administrator at the high court and as youve been hearing, five people have been hearing, five people have been arrested after four green peace activists climbed onto the roof of the Prime Ministers home in yorkshire and home in North Yorkshire and unfurled fabric across it. Unfurled black fabric across it. The fifth person was later arrested on suspicion of causing arrested on suspicion of causing a public nuisance in connection with the protest. More on all those stories by heading to our website, gbnews. Com. Website, gbnews. Com. Direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment. So gold and silver investment. So the pound buying you today. Then 1. 2708 and ,1. 1605. The price of gold is £1,522. 77 an ounce. And the ftse 100 closed today at 7529 points. Direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news investments that matter for a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Im alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. Some brighter spells out there today, but generally fairly cool and cloudy. A few heavy showers around, as wet heavy showers around, not as wet as yesterday course, as yesterday. Of course, that low pressure system has cleared away. Is another away. There is another one brewing the atlantic that brewing out in the atlantic that will and windy weather will bring wet and windy weather for saturday. But ahead of that, for saturday. But ahead of that, for rest today, weve got for the rest of today, weve got a breeze bringing a northerly breeze bringing cloud rain cloud and outbreaks of rain across scotland. A few across northern scotland. A few heavy showers this evening over southeast and northeast southeast scotland and northeast england. Keep going england. Theyll keep going actually through the night. Many other and other areas will be dry and clearer , a slightly cooler clearer, a slightly cooler night, perhaps than recent nights, but still temperatures mostly holding up in double figures, 11 to 14 celsius. On to friday. And certainly in the west , a dry and friday. And certainly in the west, a dry and a bright day, by and large. But across these eastern areas , particularly eastern areas, particularly eastern areas, particularly eastern england, it will be quite a grey start , further quite a grey start, further outbreaks of rain and then some heavy showers are possible developing through the afternoon across parts of lincolnshire , across parts of lincolnshire, east anglia and the far south east, further west, most places dry and brightening up with spells of with some decent spells of sunshine the winds will sunshine actually the winds will be light as well. So feeling quite pleasant even though temperatures only in the temperatures are only in the high 20s behind me, high teens or low 20s behind me, though, wet though, youll notice more wet weather low pressure system weather this low pressure system intensifying sweeps across intensifying as it sweeps across the country on friday night in the country on friday night in the and spreading and the west and spreading wet and windy weather across many areas dunng windy weather across many areas during saturday day, turning brighter in the southwest later. But where strongest but thats where the strongest winds have winds will be. We do have a warning out for those and warning out for those winds and for the heavy rain across northern goodbye northern ireland. Goodbye a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. On. Gb news. Right. So could 100,000 ukrainian refugees actually be turfed out of the uk . They are in the country on three year visas, but now some conservative mps are saying that theres a serious lack of guidance once they expire. A lot of the they expire. A lot of the refugees of course, are women and children. They are and children. They are definitely fleeing a war zone that we can see happening. And that we can see happening. And some people are saying that they need to be moved along because a lot of them are in temporary accommodation, a lot of them have been housed actually one have been housed actually at one point barge that point as well on a barge that they seem to mind too they didnt seem to mind too much off the coast of much about off the coast of scotland. Quite a few of them, of have hotels, of course, have been in hotels, some them as well. Were in some of them as well. Were in were homes. Were in british homes. Werent they, kicked off they, when it all kicked off initially. Really initially. So are we really going be rid of these going to be getting rid of these ukrainian women and children in order to help make way for people who are coming across the channel . Joined by dr. Channel . Im now joined by dr. Krish kandiah, who is the founder the sanctuary founder of the sanctuary foundation. Very foundation. Thank you very, very much. I mean, this really much. I mean, is this really happening . Are we going to end up with a load of ukraine women and children just booted out . And children just booted out . Patrick i dont believe we will ultimately get to that. Will ultimately get to that. I think the uk has done an incredible job for the people of ukraine. Around 182,800 ukrainians are currently in the uk and as you said , most of them uk and as you said, most of them have been living with folks like me in normal homes and britains been incredibly generous. But but the problem has been that we only offered a three year visa when they arrived and by september the 14th, most people only have about 18 months left on that visa. And thats left on that visa. And thats putting a lot of ukrainians in a lot of trouble. Its very difficult to rent a house when youve only got 18 months left on your visa. To get a job its difficult to get a job because investors employers its difficult to get a job becal its nvestors employers its difficult to get a job becalits not ;tors employers its difficult to get a job becalits not worth employers its difficult to get a job becalits not worth us employers its difficult to get a job becalits not worth us trainingrs think its not worth us training you if youre going to be gone in months children and in a few months and children and families are having really tough decisions about decisions to make about education to the older teens. Think about studying here or not. So i think its good that were talking about it, but i cannot believe that Great Britain , who is one of ukraines britain, who is one of ukraines best allies in the world, would say to the soldiers fighting on the front line that we made a promise to that. We said that we would look after their women and children. I cannot believe well get to the point where we will chuck out. But i do think chuck people out. But i do think the government needs make the government needs to make a declaration very soon about what is going happen beyond the is going to happen beyond the three is going to happen beyond the threly is going to happen beyond the threl suppose concern would i suppose the concern would be that if we give them indefinite rights remain indefinite rights to remain and they remain then they all do remain and then their decide come they all do remain and then their once decide come they all do remain and then their once the decide come they all do remain and then their once the war ide come they all do remain and then their once the war is e come they all do remain and then their once the war is finished,a over once the war is finished, how are we going to be able to cope with that . I think that a concern. At i think that is a concern. At the parts of the war, most the early parts of the war, most ukrainians were planning to go home. Most ukrainians i know have a Huge National spirit. Huge national spirit. You know, they want to fight. They are feeling bad about being here because theyd love to be on the front line helping their spouses, supporting their elderly parents. But theyre here to protect their children and who would want children in the middle of a war zone . Theyve had eight successive days drone attacks in kyiv days of drone attacks in kyiv just this week. So its a really terrible situation. And i would urge the government to get really clear about what were going to do. Dont leave the ukrainian people in limbo. Do you not think its absolutely remarkable that if you are demonstrably fleeing a war zone somewhere , that we war zone somewhere, that we cannot at all send you back to at the moment where you do genuinely need safe refuge from and you are a woman and you are and you are a woman and you are a child and i dare say as well you are from a culture that is not too dissimilar from european culture, as it were, that there might be a threat of you being booted out of britain. But if booted out of britain. But if you get on a dinghy and come across the channel, i mean, we just roll the red carpet out. I find that remarkable. All i probably disagree with you there , patrick. I do agree, though , that we i do agree, though, that we should not leave the ukraine irons in limbo. And i dont think we could possibly push them out. And, you know , the illegal and, you know, the illegal migration bill did pass. And so this government is making it more and more difficult for people who make their own way to the uk to claim asylum. I personally dont think that a good the that was a good move at the moment. You know, i was in sudan moment. You know, i was in sudan and egypt and there was a war going on there. There are families in the uk who are from sudan who are working in our nhs. An nhs consultant , working in our nhs. An nhs consultant, hes watching as his mother and his sister are caught in a war zone and hes got a big house he wants to pay for them to come here and he could look after them. But at the moment there is no way for people to claim asylum the uk. So i dont asylum in the uk. So i dont think weve been rolling the red carpet dont carpet out. But i also dont think people in think we should leave people in limbo from ukraine. , i just look at it now yeah, i just look at it now though think, well, weve yeah, i just look at it now th0|people think, well, weve yeah, i just look at it now th0|people coming a ell, weve yeah, i just look at it now th0|people coming over weve yeah, i just look at it now th0|people coming over here ve got people coming over here across the channel illegally and it is illegal and a lot of them are just young men who dont even want to stay on a on a barge, for example, which has been barge, for example, which has beea lot of these ukrainian a lot of these ukrainian families werent particularly picky time some of picky first time round. Some of those off the those were in boats off the coast in hotels werent they . Coast or in hotels werent they . I mean, this is a group of people who were incredibly grateful britain actually grateful that britain actually allowed them in. And gave them safe refuge, unlike quite a few of the other people. And so, you know, these are groups who i think we should be treating a bit better. I believe in the basic Human Dignity all people. Dignity of all people. Theyre wherever theyre from, whatever circumstances. Whatever their circumstances. I totally with you that we i am totally with you that we need to look after the ukrainians. Im looking at that barge, though, you know, the fire though, and, you know, the fire bngade though, and, you know, the fire brigade union, an affiliated to the party , look, their the labour party, look, their firemen like theyre some of the bravest men and women in our country. Their lives hood and their vision. And they risk their lives every day to get people out of dangerous circumstances. I dont think theyre playing politics with and politics with people, and i dont should. Dont think anybody should. , were agreed, so look, were agreed, patrick. Need to make patrick. We really need to make sure ukrainians are looked after. But also we should. But i also think we should offer to other people who offer that to other people who need it, too. Yeah, im definitely going agree definitely not going to agree with is undisputedly with you on what is undisputedly a barge, but there we go. A luxury barge, but there we go. Dr. Thank you very dr. Kesh, thank you very much. Chris candia much. Dr. Chris candia there, who the who is the founder of the sanctuary foundation. Right. Sanctuary foundation. Right. Okay. Look , we all like to okay. Well, look, we all like to think that we live in one of the worlds greatest democracies, dont we . But actually is the uk. In fact, now an elite dictator ship . So thats what one of the most senior newspaper journalists in the country says. And what that means is when a majority view issue is trampled on by a small minority and i can think of numerous examples right off the top of my head to think that maybe we are. So im going to get stuck into that shortly. Patrick on gb news, Patrick Christys on gb news, britains channel heres a question for you do we live in an elite dictatorship . Well thats what alastair heath, whos the editor of the sunday telegraph, thinks he says that if the authorities dont start listening to the general public on issues like cars, crime and wokery, then there will be an uprising even bigger than brexit. And im inclined to agree with that. The majority view now on loads of things we could add trans issues in there. For example, what kids should be taught at schools. The majority view does not appear to be whats being upheld by the people who we put in charge and also often as well, theyll stand on a manifesto of something. Then Something Else something. Then Something Else will come up and theyll go, sorry we couldnt do that. Were going this going to have to do this instead. We are years instead. And here we are years down with an unelected down the line with an unelected Prime Minister doing things that nobody really wants and a leader of opposition things of the opposition doing things that he wishes he that im convinced he wishes he didnt have to do unless some very people him very loud woke people behind him were them. But were making him do them. But toby me, who was the toby young joins me, who was the founder speech Union Founder of the Free Speech Union. You very much. Do. Toby, thank you very much. Do we live in some kind of dictatorship, do you think. Dictatorship, do you think. Well, i read alistairs piece today, and i thought it was absolutely spot on. Patrick, hes right across a number of issues , whether its number of issues, whether its the small boats crisis , whether the small boats crisis, whether its de banking , um, you name its de banking, um, you name it, climate change, net zero across a whole range of issues. The liberal metropolitan elite charged with governing us are completely at odds with the majority of the british people. You know, one of the supposed failings of democracy is that sometimes the majority can oppose, impose its will on the minority. Minority. And we have all sorts of mechanisms in place to prevent that from happening, to protect minorities from being bullied by the majority. But what we dont have in place, patrick, and seemingly less and less , is seemingly less and less, is a way to protect the majority from a belligerent aggressor , a belligerent aggressor, elitist, minority actions are supposed to be the great way in which the majority can protect themselves of having unpopular views imposed upon them by a liberal metropolitan elite. But the problem is that on so many of these issues, particularly climate change, but also migration, the parties all seem to have the same policy. Its to have the same policy. Its a uni party, so who do we turn to if we want to protect ourselves from this elite . Its not clear now ive got a theory on this, which is that when you have a load of money the bank and load of money in the bank and everything rosy in garden everything is rosy in the garden and nothing really can affect you that easily , you can afford you that easily, you can afford to have luxury views sometimes because you live in the ideal world that frankly, most of us dont. But we are, most of us. The pubuc but we are, most of us. The public is, most of us. The electorate is most of us. And so what matters to the electorate does not match up with the elite views of people. Unfortunately those people are the ones who tend to rule over us. Yeah, no, thats exactly right. Spot on. Um, a sociology phd student at cambridge has come up with this concept of luxury beliefs, which is a really powerful concept. And the idea is that members of the elite high status, well off people have these beliefs that they articulate, which are intended to advertise their virtue but cost them absolutely nothing. So, for instance , you nothing. So, for instance, you can be in favour of open borders of unrestricted migration, and that costs you nothing because you probably live in an area with gated communities. You may with gated communities. You may you may appreciate the low cost of hiring domestic help. You like going to starbucks and pret a manger where most of the people helping you are immigrants on low wages. But if you if youre a working class person competing for those jobs, seeing your salaries getting lower and lower , seeing your lower and lower, seeing your communities change thing very, very quickly of course youre not going to be in favour of open borders. And thats just one example of a luxury belief. But more and more often now , the but more and more often now, the people in the governing classes, the officials, the politicians who are running our lives , they who are running our lives, they they embrace these causes intended to advertise their virtue and incidentally, their superior status, but which costs them absolute nothing. Them absolute nothing. Yeah, indeed. And when it yeah, indeed. And when it comes to this issue of therell be an uprising, comes to this issue of therell be an uprising , something bigger be an uprising, something bigger than brexit, what do you think that means. That means. Well, um , without an well, um, without an opportunity to cast our votes at the ballot box for a party that doesnt embrace the consensus liberal elite view on all these issues, its not clear what form that would take. Is alastair saying that therell be some kind of popular uprising, civil unrest , kind of popular uprising, civil unrest, Something Like what weve seen in france over the summer. I cant see that happening in the united kingdom, at least not yet. I think were quite far from that. I think the quite far from that. I think the likeliest scenario is that if rishi sunak loses the next general election, which is more likely than not at this stage , likely than not at this stage, therell be a fiercely contested conservative leadership election and in that election there may emerge emerge a candidate who does depart from the consensus on issues like the small boats, on issues like the small boats, on issues like the small boats, on issues like the cost of living de banking yeah, net zero. And that that candidate may do very well and go on to beat keir starmer at the next election , but one well have to see. Toby thank you very much as even toby thank you very much as ever. Toby young there who is of course heading up the Free Speech Union Michelle Dewberry joins me now. Dewbs co comes joins me now. Dewbs co comes next. You all right . I do, yes. Im great, thanks. I do, yes. Im great, thanks. I do, yes. Im great, thanks. I listen to that conversation with interest. Fascinating stuff. With interest. And inating stuff. With interest. Andinwant stuff. With interest. And inwant to uff. With interest. And inwant to carry on this and i want to carry on this conversation because i also found column absolutely fascinating. And it touched on a topic that i did my show at the start yesterday of about 76 of people apparently think that this country worse and country is getting worse and worse and worse. And some of the views that i got from my viewers, i found absolutely fascinating because so people i was asking so many people i was asking people will tell me , you know, people will tell me, you know, good things about britain. Lets good things about britain. Lets get positive. Everyone and so many people said genuinely, michel, im struggling. Im struggling to think of something apart from gb obviously apart from gb news. Obviously i dont about you, but i feel dont know about you, but i feel a little bit like were all just being suffocated. Are tremendous country. We are a tremendous country. Weve got some of the great talent ever talent that the world has ever seen and have done throughout talent that the world has ever seeicourse have done throughout talent that the world has ever seeicourse of have done throughout talent that the world has ever seeicourse of history. Ne throughout talent that the world has ever seeicourse of history. We hroughout talent that the world has ever seeicourse of history. We justghout the course of history. We just need we need need a bit of freedom. We need to let off the leash. To be let off the leash. Its one of the things well, its one of the things that he says here. And says that he says here. And he says like there time when it like there was a time when it was concerned about that the tyranny the majority was the tyranny of the majority was the main and main threat to freedom and prosperity. Says its prosperity. But he says its a tyranny Minority Party tyranny of the Minority Party that danger. That poses the greatest danger. And so fascinating and i do find it so fascinating dating how the kind of the majority of the population have been expected to kind of bend and kind of force themselves into something in order to kind of placate and make happy the tiny minority groups in society, not saying we dont care about the minority groups. Of course we do. But theres so much kind of so much to get into for anyone who gets out and about, seriously, anyone who gets out and goes and and about and goes round and goes up north or goes to the midlands or out really is midlands or goes out really is actually what a majority actually just what a majority see people like the vast majority are gb news viewers are actually in seriously. And its just i think the time is coming for to be a and its just i think the timlouderming for to be a and its just i think the timlouder aboutor to be a and its just i think the timlouder about that. To be a and its just i think the timlouder about that. What a and its just i think the timlouder about that. What else bit louder about that. What else you got . Yeah, i want that. Look at oh yeah, i want that. Look at this greenpeace thing in this whole greenpeace thing in rishi it rishi sunaks house. I found it so disgusting. Know how so disgusting. I dont know how you. Know how dare you. I dont know how you dare and who you think you are to go to somebodys house. I think its in canada, actually , where its in canada, actually, where you cant do that. Theres laws against protest at private property, which i completely agree you know, it is an agree with. You know, it is an argument as well for having guard dogs at your property. Yeah, is. And youre yeah, it is. And youre not allowed put those things. Allowed to put those things. Beware of the dog, are you . I know not allowed to know youre not allowed to really these but really do that these days, but i bet there were some bet if there were some rottweilers whatever, youd rottweilers or whatever, youd think getting up think twice about getting up there daft banners, there with your daft banners, wouldnt there with your daft banners, wotyeah. 100. If yeah. 100. 100. I mean, if you had dobermans you just had the dobermans out there or the. Well, there was a sausage quite frankly, it sausage dog, quite frankly, it scare me. Terrified of dogs. Id be im terrified of dogs. Id be terrified little terrified if i saw a little sausage there waiting for me. That didnt sound right. Somebody head right . F right . Dewberry. Coming Michelle Dewberry. Coming up next, gentlemen, make Michelle Dewberry. Coming up next that gentlemen, make Michelle Dewberry. Coming up next that you gentlemen, make Michelle Dewberry. Coming up next that you stayentlemen, make Michelle Dewberry. Coming up next that you stay tuned|en, make Michelle Dewberry. Coming up next that you stay tuned becausea sure that you stay tuned because therell be more of that. Michelle indeed, little michelle and indeed, her little sausage. Ill see you in a bit. Michelle and indeed, her little saulooksill see you in a bit. Michelle and indeed, her little saulooks like ee you in a bit. Michelle and indeed, her little saulooks like things in a bit. Michelle and indeed, her little saulooks like things are bit. Michelle and indeed, her little saulooks like things are heating up. Boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Of weather on. Gb news. Im alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. Some brighter spells out there today, but generally fairly cool and cloudy. Heavy showers cloudy. A few heavy showers around, not as wet as yesterday, of course , that low pressure of course, that low pressure system away. There system has cleared away. There is one brewing out in is another one brewing out in the will wet the atlantic that will bring wet and weather for saturday. And windy weather for saturday. But that, for the rest but ahead of that, for the rest of today, weve got a northerly breeze bringing cloud and outbreaks across outbreaks of rain across northern scotland. A few heavy showers evening showers this evening over southeast and northeast southeast scotland and northeast england. Theyll keep going actually through the night. Many other and other areas will be dry and clearer , a slightly cooler clearer, a slightly cooler night, perhaps than recent nights. But still, temperatures mostly holding up in double figures , 11 to 14 celsius on to figures, 11 to 14 celsius on to friday. And certainly in the west, dry and a bright day by and large. But across these eastern areas, particularly eastern areas, particularly eastern england, it will be quite a grey start. Further outbreaks of rain and then some heavy showers are possible developing through the afternoon across parts of lincolnshire, east anglia and the far southeast. Further west, most places dry and brightening up with some decent spells of sunshine actually the winds will be light as well. Feeling be light as well. So feeling quite though quite pleasant even though temperatures early in the high teens or low 20s behind me, though, youll notice more wet weather system weather this low pressure system intensifying across intensifying as it sweeps across the country on friday night in the country on friday night in the and spreading and the west and spreading wet and windy weather across many areas dunng windy weather across many areas during saturday day, sitting brighter in the southwest later. But thats where the strongest winds do have winds will be. We do have a warning out for winds warning out for those winds and for heavy rain across for the heavy rain across northern ireland. Goodbye looks like things are heating up. Boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. At his front door is home address. What do you make to address. What do you make to this . Should it ever be okay to get yourself to someones private property . And protest there . I say absolutely not. And a line has been crossed. But what say you and are you over 50 . If so, see you get on your bike and maybe, i dont know, deliver pizzas. Is that bike and maybe, i dont know, deliver pizzas. Is that is a suggestion aimed at you guys tonight. What do you make to that common sense or a little bit ludicrous . And get this , it bit ludicrous . And get this, it has been claimed in public