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And no one should be jailed for simply using or having on their record. Should we legalise record. Should we legalise cannabis . Also assalamu alaikum, my dear friends. How are you . Friends. How are you . A labour shadow cabinet minister has spent tens of thousands of pounds and taxpayers to money learn arabic so she can speak to refugees. On my panel tonight its the director of the popular conservatives. Its Mark Littlewood , ex bbc political littlewood, ex bbc political chief, John Sergeant and apprentice finalist joanna jarjue. Oh, and lock them up. Jarjue. Oh, and lock them up. Get ready, britain, here we go. The french are laughing at us. Next. Next. Good evening. Im sam francis in the newsroom. A recap of the in the newsroom. A recap of the headunes in the newsroom. A recap of the headlines at nine. And we start with news from northern ireland, where families of alleged informers were killed by the informers who were killed by the ira say another step towards truth has been made today after a report into the activities of a report into the activities of a double agent was published. The investigation revealed. Its likely that more lives were lost than saved by the spy, codenamed stakeknife. He was working covertly for the british army inside the iras internal security unit, and theyre known for abductions, torture and murder. For abductions, torture and murder. Well, for abductions, torture and murder. Well, stakeknife for abductions, torture and murder. Well, stakeknife is widely believed to have been a west belfast man who was 77 when he died last year. Solicitor kevin winters, who represents a number of the victims families , number of the victims families, says the agent needs to be officially identified. Officially identified. The decision not to name Fred Scappaticci as the agent stakeknife has been difficult for many to accept the legal and tactical rationale for doing so will be lost on many people, particularly the next of kin of those murdered. Those murdered. George galloway says that he has hundreds of candidates ready to run in the next general election. The leader of the Workers Party was sworn into parliament on monday following his by election win last week. Speaking to neil oliver earlier, the mp said his success in rochdale was the last straw that broke the camels back. The spread of candidates, challengers , new parties, challengers, new parties, independent candidates and so on is now proceeding like wildfire. Is now proceeding like wildfire. If i tell you that i have now in my pocket, more than 300 prospective parliamentary candidates , all paying their own candidates, all paying their own election expenses by the way, because we cant pay them more than 300 Workers Party parliamentary candidate. Imagine parliamentary candidate. Imagine that. Well, you can see that full interview with George Galloway now on youtube and online on our website, gbnews. Com. Or of course, tune in on sunday live with neil oliver at 6 00. In other news, theresa may has criticised the coarsening Political Climate after revealing she will stand down at the next general election. She joins an exodus of conservative mps from the commons with almost 60 now planning to leave parliament, rishi sunak and other political figures have today praised the former Prime Minister for her dedicated pubuc minister for her dedicated public service. Downing street public service. Downing street says the Prime Minister does take concerns about the impact of pro palestine protests extremely seriously, following claims that london has become a no go zone forjews. Its after no go zone for jews. Its after rishi sunak said extremists are trying to tear the country apart, writing in the telegraph, the governments counter extremism tsar said it was right to raise concerns. He also said ministers need to be willing to accept higher legal risk when tackling extremism. Police have tackling extremism. Police have confirmed tonight that broadcaster india willoughbys accusations of misgendering by the authorjk accusations of misgendering by the author jk rowling accusations of misgendering by the authorjk rowling does not meet criminal thresholds. Willoughby, who is transgender, had reported the author to the police for an alleged hate crime after calling her a man on social media. The harry potter writer rejected the allegations, though, saying that its not a crime to hold gender critical views. And finally, some remarkable news into us. In the last few hours, the police in nonh last few hours, the police in North Yorkshire have arrested an 11 year old boy who was caught driving a bmw down the mi whilst towing a suspected stolen caravan. Officers said that they were staggered when they found the boy driving on the motorway. Hes now facing charges including theft, burglary and dangerous driving, but thankfully no injuries were reported. Those are the reported. Those are the headlines. More at 10 00. In the meantime , you can sign up to gb meantime, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code there on your screen. Or go to gb news. Com alerts. But now its back to. Patrick. Its back to. Patrick. Our mps are playing roulette with our lives because they just cant be asked to do their jobs anymore. In france, theyve been tackling extremism head on, strengthening their laws, expelling radical imams, closing extremist schools and mosques, cutting funding for islamist charities. They have the balls charities. They have the balls to confront the failures of multiculturalism. They ban the multiculturalism. They ban the veil in schools and in the Civil Service. They tried to force integration here. Our Civil Service sends all staff emails about world hijab day , whilst about world hijab day, whilst a dodgy Asylum Seeker who doused a woman and child with acid was still on the loose. And a video emerged yesterday as well, showing, well, frankly, that theyd all just given up, didnt they . A Civil Servant out on the for stump George Galloway, rishi sunaks solution is to change the definition of extremism, come up with a framework and try to appease people by getting jeremy hunt to open the budget with a statue for muslim war veterans. We have record levels veterans. We have record levels of mass migration that is ripping this country apart, socially crippling us financially. We have a housing financially. We have a housing crisis that requires something radical in order to sort it. We have record nhs waiting lists. We need new hospitals. What weve been given is pharmacists essentially doing gp appointments. We dont have enough schools. As it stands, 1 in 5 schools are full or have more children than theyre supposed to. What are we doing about that . Nothing. Jeremy hunt about that . Nothing. Jeremy hunt unveils a labour budget written by the obr. He designed a budget singularly around lets not do anything controversial instead of what will help peoples lives or get votes. Now, i found that baffling initially , but then baffling initially, but then last night i realised whats happening. Theyve stopped happening. Theyve stopped caring. They dont want to do what it takes to sort any of this stuff out, because all theyre bothered about now is protecting their legacy. On the dinner Party Circuit. Theresa may is the latest rat to jump off the sinking ship. She wont be running for re election. She be running for re election. She joins 58 other conservative mps. I think it is now. It might have gone up in the last few minutes for ex conservative mps. One former snp mp who now sits with the conservatives, and five conservative mps who have said that they wont stand for re election in their current seat but might give it a go somewhere else. So i think i make that now. 69 mps in total from our ruling party basically are off sajid javid not content with getting his £1 million statue for muslim war veterans, said something unbelievable last night. He essentially endorsed sir keir starmer. He said if i woke up the day after the election and keir starmer was standing outside 10 downing street, im not going to be frightened, right . I would have beenif frightened, right . I would have been if it had been corbyn. There are actually very strong rumours about chancellor jeremy hunt not standing at the next election. He denies them. Paul election. He denies them. Paul scully mentions no go zones and issues a grovelling apology. And then he says hes quitting tory Party Donations have dropped by a third. They are down to 18 in the opinion polls , and about 60 the opinion polls, and about 60 of them have literally told us that they dont want to do their jobs anymore. They would rather that you and i live with massive societal problems and the constant threat of islamism. Then work hard to sort it out. They are too afraid of protecting their reputations to do anything. The reality is, though, they havent got a reputation to protect. Lets get the thoughts of my panel this evening. I am joined by former bbc chief Political Correspondent is John Sergeant, director, popular conservatives, its Mark Littlewood and of course entrepreneur and apprentice finalist joanna jarjue. Mark, ill start with you on this. Why cant they be asked anymore to keep us safe and sort this country out . Well, you know, hang on a second, patrick. Lets do a little bit of maths here. These people are public servants, you might argue, but theyre not indentured slaves. Right. This indentured slaves. Right. This is. I think ive just done the maths here. This is about 1 in 5 conservative mps standing down at the moment. It will go a lot higher than that, by the way, but that seems to me about a natural rate of attrition. Right. Youd probably expect people serve, dont know, people to serve, i dont know, 4 or terms and then step down. Or 5 terms and then step down. It seems to me in theresa mays case, perfectly sensible. She wants something with wants to do Something Else with her life. Shes, i think, performed pretty well in Parliament Since standing down as do you think theyre going to do you think theyre going to be to sort out be energised, mark, to sort out any the of things that any of the kind of things that weve got going on weve actually got going on right the time that right now . By the time that rishi extremism rishi sunaks extremism framework works itself through, how jews how many more hundreds of jews are be appallingly abused . No. Youre right. Listen, patrick, i share your disappointment the budget disappointment about the budget as mean , you know, as well. This i mean, you know, im a supporter of the conservative party, but sometimes you get the feeling that whilst the wheel is turning, the hamster dead. Turning, the hamster is dead. And, doesnt seem to be and, there doesnt seem to be any, you know, imaginative thought. The budget was very, very small ball, a couple of baubles in it that i quite liked. But in terms of the overarching problems facing britain, fear the britain, i sometimes fear the government hasnt got a grip on them to speak of. John, i was wondering and john, i was wondering last may last night when theresa may became one to jump became the latest one to jump off. Like i you know, off. And like i said, you know, by the this shows out, by the time this shows out, therell probably few therell probably be a few others actually, whether not others actually, whether or not we a general we should just have a general election. You know, it does seem we should just have a general eln. You know, it does seem we should just have a general el when sinking , when the ship starts sinking, thats when they basically dip. And see that , you and you just can see that, you know, theres a lot of greed. Theres a lot of, you know, sleaze that seen. And now sleaze that weve seen. And now that that their success that they see that their success rate likely actually rate isnt likely to actually get to it has been get to what it has been previously, ready to previously, theyre ready to basically and im not basically jump ship. And im not surprised theresa may at surprised about theresa may at the of the day, shes close the end of the day, shes close to retirement age , but also at to retirement age, but also at the same time, i think theresa may career has learnt a may in her career has learnt a lot of lessons after hostile lot of lessons after the hostile environment and even now i think the whole rwanda thing is probably quite a bit. Probably triggered quite a bit. And obviously shes been quite outspoken about the outspoken about that in the house of commons about, you know, trafficking know, risks to trafficking victims things like that. So victims and things like that. So i think now shes probably just disgusted party that she disgusted at the party that she once loved. A lot of people, though, john, around, its john, looking around, its not just about the islamist threat. You know, weve housing you know, weve got a housing crisis something crisis that does need something radical whether its the radical doing, whether its the reform planning or reform of planning laws or whether having the whether its someone having the bottle to just stand up and go, right, are building right, look, we are building this of houses every this amount of houses every single is single year. This is the schools, the things you schools, the things like, you know in primary schools now know, 1 in 5 primary schools now are at capacity or capacity know, 1 in 5 primary schools now awhere apacity or capacity know, 1 in 5 primary schools now awhereapacityikids capacity know, 1 in 5 primary schools now awhereapacity because there are lots of people who would love to come in and they would then have their heart set on going into government and doing some. There are real world consequences for this, mark, and you look at that budget and you think, you know what the nation needs, what people need. If weve chancellor whose weve got a chancellor whose main i suspect it main concern, as i suspect it is, was standing at that despatch and just not despatch box and just not not spooking lets not spooking the horses, lets not do lets just get do anything. Lets just get through this. I dont want much controversy. Thats actually controversy. Thats not actually what the country needs. Right. You no, youre right. And you mentioned in your in your remarks, and i know you remarks, patrick, and i know you did it slightly tongue in cheek, but i think only slightly tongue in cheek. The obr, the office for budget responsibility , now for budget responsibility, now effectively writes the budget. I dont to overstate that , dont want to overstate that, but it sets margins within which the chancellor operates about how much fiscal headroom he has. Its almost as if the obr is sort of washing out pocket money to jeremy hunt, and hes then deciding how to spend it. And deciding how to spend it. And although you can see the temptation want an temptation to want an independent watchdog rather than politicians marking their own homework, id like there to be much more discretion for the chancellor of the exchequer. Were these forecasts, even if well , are often well intentioned, are often miles out by tens of billions of pounds . I think the responsibility should sit on the shoulders an elected shoulders of an elected politician , not a bureaucrat, politician, not a bureaucrat, no, but look at what happened last time. It was in hands of it was in the hands of somebody like kwasi kwarteng. And he did and this and look at what he did and this is why i the penalty for that. But he was sacked. But he was sacked. Yeah, he was sacked. Okay. So if goes wrong, the politician if it goes wrong, the politician goes, yeah, lost his job. Goes, yeah, but he lost his job. All but im sure hes all right. But im sure hes absolutely fine. Hes doing much better cant better than the people who cant afford at the afford their mortgages at the moment. Is the same moment. But this is the same argument people when argument that people have when they bank of they talk about the bank of england saying bank of england saying the bank of england saying the bank of england much power and england has too much power and but should but the bank of england should be independent and should be separate government. Be independent and should be separat that, you im not saying that, you know, the know, im not saying that the bank england is kind of above bank of england is kind of above being criticised, but at the same i would not put it same time, i would not put it and doesnt left or and it doesnt matter left or right. Would not put in right. I would not put it in a politicians hands to be able to. Yeah. I mean, problem is that i mean, the problem is that as the economy is as far as the economy is concerned, going to take concerned, its going to take time. Matter how time. It doesnt matter how clever are, words clever you are, what words you use. Just an use. This is just after an extremely period, extremely difficult period, particularly because the particularly because of the pandemic. Is equivalent pandemic. Now this is equivalent to a war. Its a real sort of you throw all the money you can at it because nobody knows quite what do. So all sorts of what to do. So all sorts of mistakes are made. But the key thing a lot money was thing is a lot of money was spent and that has to be paid for. If youre young for. Now, if youre a young person coming into politics, you can know that the can say, well, you know that the wheel will turn, the recession will end, well get back into on the front foot. Well be able to do x, y, and z. The older people just think, oh, whatever happens , weve got 3 or 4 more years of austerity. Yeah, not much fun. Just final word on this. I started that monologue there by talking about the fact that the french are now laughing at us over that are over the way that we are handung over the way that we are handling these protests over the way that were handling multiculturalism and the way that islamism in that were handling islamism in this country. And from what i can see right fact, what this country. And from what i cancane right fact, what this country. And from what i cancan alliht fact, what this country. And from what i cancan all see, fact, what this country. And from what i cancan all see, i fact, what this country. And from what i cancan all see, i fa is what we can all see, i think, is people who fundamentally do not have to do that. Have the minerals to do that. And this is where the dinner Party Circuit in for me. Party circuit comes in for me. If know theyve only a if they know theyve only got a few in office, lets few months left in office, lets not too not do anything too controversial. Have controversial. Lets just have a statue here £1 million statue over for here £1 million or something. Lets a or something. Lets have a tramp. T controversial, patrick. Lets that. Patrick. Buts that. Patrick. But it that. Patrick. But it needs. Patrick. But it needs someone with a bit bottle. All living bit of bottle. Were all living in this. But the strange here, but the strange thing here, and this as a member of and i say this as a member of the conservative is this, the conservative party, is this, isnt seems me isnt it . That seems to me a sensible strategy. If sensible electoral strategy. If youre government, youre the government, six months election youre the government, six mon15 election youre the government, six mon15 ahead election youre the government, six mon15 ahead in election youre the government, six mon15 ahead in the election youre the government, six mon15 ahead in the opinion n and 15 ahead in the opinion polls , you would have thought if polls, you would have thought if youre at 18 in todays opinion polls , that the sensible polls, that the sensible electoral thing to even electoral thing to do, even putting aside the right thing for the country, would be to gamble a bit. That doesnt seem to so steady as to be much to lose, so steady as she is a pretty she goes is a pretty odd strategy. Is what im saying. No, its were trapped is more the feeling of theres not much can much we can do. Yeah. Yeah. The more a feeling of and the more a feeling of just to cope just we need more time to cope with. This is what happens. With this. This is what happens. There are cycles, i think. I think you cant just beat the system. No. Thats true. What are we going to borrow going to do . Is borrow like crazy. It crazy. Spend like crazy. It doesnt work. You can do the social stuff you can do the social stuff. And i think they dont to do that they dont want to do that because theyre going because they know theyre going to of office and they to be out of office and they dont any backlash dont want to get any backlash in the meantime. But anyway, look, up, pistols look, coming up, sex pistols legend lydon, a who legend john lydon, a man who clearly doesnt mind getting a bit britains bit of backlash, calls britains Immigration Crisis catastroph physically impact illegal laments the impact of illegal migration on britains seaside resorts. Rotten , resorts. Is johnny rotten, right . Plus, the shadow culture secretary has spent more than £20,000 of taxpayers money on arabic lessons so she can better communicate with her diverse constituency. After seven years of learning, its Thangam Debbonaire at least fluent in the language, but it acts in our head to head with joe biden last night declaring that nobody should be sent to prison for using marijuana. Should be using marijuana. Should we be decriminalising it . Over here i am joined medicinal am joined by the Medicinal Cannabis professor and a former prison going prison governor. Theyre going to see you in a to battle it out. See you in a sec i yes. Yes. Loads to go tonight. Including this bizarre feminist for Palestine Movement who i think need a few home truths. But right now, its time for our head to head. Well, joe biden delivered a state of the union speech last night. And amongst taking aim at donald trump and ad libbing most of a feisty Immigration Exchange , the Immigration Exchange, the president told americans that he wants no one jailed for using or possessing marijuana. Possessing marijuana. Hinckley my cabinet to review the federal classification of marijuana and expunging thousands of convictions for the mere possession , because no one mere possession, because no one should be jailed for simply using or have it on their record i i i got about half of that, ill be honest. But anyway, said something about marijuana. So biden is encouraging a more positive cannabis. Positive outlook on cannabis. Its worth remembering that in 2022, biden pardoned thousands of convicted marijuana possession, and in 24 us states, the drug is legal for recreational use. Its called upon regulated to review whether cannabis should be reclassified with the Us Health Department last year recommending its removal from americas most restrictive category list. Well, restrictive category list. Well, look, i thought, how is this going to affect us over here . Everywhere you walk now, there seems to be the stench of cannabis. But according to a Pew Research Survey from Research Centre survey from april 2023, so 59 of americans say marijuana should be legal and apparently 18. 7 of americans use the drug, according to the office for national statistics. Here, an estimated 7. 6 of people aged between 16 and 59 in the uk. So 2. 5 million of us reported using cannabis last year. Thats a lie, obviously. I mean, the obvious, obviously thats complete rubbish anyway, right . Complete rubbish anyway, right . Its legal in more than 40 countries and the cannabis industry is projected to reach a revenue of 60. 79 billion. So look, where are you on this . Should we be legalising cannabis over here . Im joined now by consultant neurologist and medical cannabis expert professor mark barnes and retired prison governor and author vanessa frake. Both of you, thank you very much. And vanessa, should we legalise cannabis over here, do you think . 7 no, i 7 no, i dont 7 no, i dont i 7 no, i dont i dont think so. You know , you could look at it you know, you could look at it that its pretty well legal as is. You know, if you caught in is. You know, if you caught in possession with cannabis, i think the fines Something Like £90, if that, you may get just a warning, you know, and for deaung warning, you know, and for dealing it, its the prison sentence is something between six months and seven years maximum. You know, i dont i dont think that i think weve got much more to worry ourselves about than whether we should or should not. Legalise cannabis. I also think that you know, ive seen prisoners coming into jail who have long terme side effects from, long terme use of cannabis raising, raging, raging from, you know, psychosis, depression , you know, psychosis, depression, anxiety, and in some cases even, even the onset of schizophrenia. So you know, i dont i dont actually agree with the whole lets legalise it and say, you know, away you go. Its all very well if its if its done in a controlled manner , you know, controlled manner, you know, its in a sterile area, you know, people, people use it as medicinal. I accept that, but there are very Vulnerable People in our society who get addicted very quickly and go from cannabis to harder drugs. Cannabis to harder drugs. Well, youve covered a lot there and i will come back to you. Ill bring in professor mark barnes, now consultant neurologist medical cannabis neurologist and medical cannabis expert massively expert. So all right, massively paraphrasing but its paraphrasing here, but its a gateway drug that can have Massive Health consequences , a Massive Health consequences, a quick answer to that is no, its not a gateway drug. Of course it can have Health Consequences. Consequences. No. No drug, no medicine is entirely safe , youre quite entirely safe, youre quite right. It can cause psychosis in Vulnerable People, particularly with high thc use. With high thc use. So its not entirely safe. Nothing is entirely safe. Nothing is entirely safe. Alcohol is not entirely safe. Tobacco is not entirely safe. Driving a cars not entirely safe , so i would eventually, safe, so i would eventually, agree that it should be legalised. But i say eventually, and i mean that because we in 2018, we legalised cannabis for medical purposes, which i think was a great step forward. But since then, over five years ago, weve only got 36,000 people on legal prescribed medical cannabis. You may say that sounds a big number, but when you compare it to estimated to be 1. 8 Million People who use cannabis daily for medical purposes , really that that purposes, really that that legalisation of the medical scene hasnt gone well at all. So what i want to see is the medical scene got right first. So people who need it for chronic conditions can get it for their chronic conditions without the need to go in the private sector and without the need to continue to get it from the market. The black market. Okay. And mean, vanessa , okay. And i mean, vanessa, youre seeing all of the negatives when you were in prison. You want to just talk prison. Do you want to just talk to us a little about some of to us a little bit about some of the that you saw that the things that you saw that were related . Saw you were cannabis related . I saw you shaking there when, shaking your head there when, mark wasnt mark said that it wasnt a gateway. Gateway drug. Well, i think i think it is a gateway drug. Certainly when youre when you have Vulnerable People that that only people using it that that only get a high for so long and then look for something, you know, more and more and more and, you know, weve had people come into prison who are clean , who go out prison who are clean, who go out either on cannabis or worse. Either on cannabis or worse. And, you know, i think, i think its very naive to think that that its not a gateway and people dont go on to, to use it. I have no problem with it being used in medical circumstances at all. I know, you know, like many illicit drugs , there are some benefits drugs, there are some benefits to it. That is not my issue. My to it. That is not my issue. My issue is, is by saying to everybody, particularly the vulnerable in our society, that, you know, crack on and use use it as, as and when. Yeah. Look, mark, i mean, you yeah. Look, mark, i mean, you only have to go outside this office on my walk home and you just smell it everywhere. I mean , theres, i mean, cities stink of cannabis from end to end at the moment. Right . So i mean, i suppose an argument would be if everybody who wants to do it is already doing it, why pay criminals to make it and bring it to you when essentially, i suppose the state could do that and we could tax it . Well, thats that is a reasonable argument. Its estimated that the cannabis industry would create about 100,000 jobs. If you if you extrapolate from the states, it would raise several billion pounds worth of tax income. But more importantly, other than those economic arguments , is those economic arguments, is that you can provide the people who want to use cannabis perfectly, reasonably safe, regulated product. At the moment you can get adulterated product. Its quite a problem at the moment , its quite a problem at the moment, going to the criminal black market, getting a adulterated product all adulterated product with all sorts of Health Consequences to that provide that so you can provide a cleaner , safer, regulated market cleaner, safer, regulated market thats a benefit to the economy. Thats a benefit to the economy. So i cant see an issue with that. Mark, im just going to stick with you on this now. So i can remember reading headlines when i was younger. I think mainly because my parents used to show them me now again, them to me every now and again, which know, that which was say, you know, that kind the daily kind of headline in the daily mail, which was my, my little timmy one of cannabis timmy had one puff of a cannabis cigarette, and now hes got paranoid yeah. Cigarette, and now hes got paraitid yeah. Cigarette, and now hes got paraitid that yeah. Cigarette, and now hes got paraitid that bad yeah. Cigarette, and now hes got paraitid that bad . Yeah. Cigarette, and now hes got paraitid that bad . Caneah. Cigarette, and now hes got paraitid that bad . Can itah. Cigarette, and now hes got paraitid that bad . Can it have can it be that bad . Can it have that much of an impact on people . 7 basically, that is, it can in some people , if youre some people, if youre vulnerable already, if you had a psychotic episode already, youve got a close family relative whos had psychosis or schizophrenia. Then taking high schizophrenia. Then taking high thc, particularly cannabis, can can trigger that. That is definitely there. But the risk of that is really very low. There was a very interesting study by a doctor called hickman in 2008. I think it was that showed you how to stop 10,000 young men and 29,000 young women from smoking cannabis to prevent one episode of psychosis. So one episode of psychosis. So yes, its a risk. Yes, people with psychosis shouldnt take it. But is it a big risk . No, its not. Yeah. And just a final word from you on this, vanessa. You know, in your experience as a prison governor. Look, you must have people whod have seen people whod got themselves sucked into the criminal. Talk about criminal. When we talk about gateway its actually gateway drug, its not actually just users. I think. I just the drug users. I think. I think lot people maybe think a lot of people maybe start dealing cannabis, and start out dealing cannabis, and then into the harness, then they go into the harness, then they go into the harness, then find themselves then they find themselves with longer prison sentences, etc. You have criminal you must have seen that criminal underworld there. Its nasty business. Yeah, absolutely. You know, yeah, absolutely. You know, it always starts small. It starts , you know, with the starts, you know, with the occasional joint from, from from your mate. And then of course, your mate. And then of course, you want another one and then youve got no money to buy any, and then you go out nicking things and then you get, caught and then you end up in prison and then you end up in prison and then you end up in prison and then , you know, cannabis in, and then, you know, cannabis in, in worse. Three, four in a jail is worse. Three, four times what its worth on the street. So you know, this this whole sort of episode just seems to snowball and snowball. And im thinking, well, why . Why are we going to make this easier . Look, both of you, yeah. Look, both of you, thank much. Really good thank you very much. Really good stuff, enjoyed it. I was stuff, i enjoyed it. I was a consultant neurologist and medical expert. Medical cannabis expert. Professor barnes, and professor mark barnes, and retired and retired prison governor and author think we author vanessa frake. I think we very did get both sides of very much did get both sides of it didnt who do you it there, didnt we . Who do you agree with . Should marijuana laws relaxed even scrapped laws be relaxed or even scrapped here, think . In the uk, here, do you think . In the uk, dalton i used to think, dalton says i used to think, yes, but im worried it would be a real gateway i think a real gateway drug. I think more should be done more research should be done into effects of the brain of into the effects of the brain of young people use it before young people who use it before we legalising we consider it legalising it, loos personally sick loos says. Personally im sick of the of on the of the smell of drugs on the street. Needs more street. It needs more enforcement. Is that side enforcement. There is that side of there . Ollie says of it, isnt there . Ollie says this a or question. Of it, isnt there . Ollie says this all a or question. Of it, isnt there . Ollie says this all for or question. Of it, isnt there . Ollie says this all for as or question. Of it, isnt there . Ollie says this all for as or freedom. Of it, isnt there . Ollie says this all for as or freedom as i am all for as much freedom as possible. But imagine if possible. But imagine if somebody turns up to stoned somebody turns up to work stoned and causes an incident that huns and causes an incident that hurts or worse, kills somebody who pays your compensation. Yeah. Series a good point. This right. Well, i can safely say right. Well, i can safely say this is the closest poll we have ever done here on Patrick Christys tonight, 47 of you think that marijuana laws should be relaxed or scrapped. 53 of you say it shouldnt. Were in an Eu Referendum territory here, people. So anyway, thank you for taking part in that. But coming up, feminists for Palestine Groups have been marching around the world tonight to Mark International womens and International Womens day, and well the latest on well bring you the latest on this pro palestine lunacy. And i this pro palestine lunacy. And i think just to add a bit of perspective on this, i will be joined later on by the Israeli Government spokesman, ellen levy, whos actually going to remind the world what hamas have done and continue to do to women in their area and, well, sex pistols legend john lydon calls britains Immigration Crisis catastrophically disappointing and laments the impact of illegal migration on britains seaside resorts. Its johnny rotten, right . But next, the shadow culture secretary has spent more than £20,000 of your money on arabic lessons. So apparently she can better communicate with a diverse constituency. After seven years, constituency. After seven years, seven years of learning is Thangam Debbonaire at least fluent in the language as she ever used it . Patrick christys tonight on gb news. Welcome back to Patrick Christys tonight. Now, youre all probably familiar now with labour mp Thangam Debbonaire. Labour mp Thangam Debbonaire. Well, earlier this week, she slammed performances of rule britannia at last night of the proms. She said they were alienating all the tories. Julie criticised debbonaire for having little pride in britain, and it turns out that shes been receiving arabic lessons okay, at the expense of the british taxpayer since she began classes in 2017. Records revealed by the daily mail show that the taxpayers is you, me, everyone we know has paid £20,800 to allow debbonaire to communicate with middle eastern refugees in her constituency. Last year alone, she spent £4,344 on arabic lessons. Thats a huge surge from the £2,697 she had spent. Its not her spending, is it . Its us spending it anyway wed spent by 2018. So while this is not against parliamentary rules, which i find remarkable, by the way , we find remarkable, by the way, we did put some questions to Thangam Debbonaire earlier on about her learning the language. Okay. Given that shes been learning arabic now for more than seven years, we asked her if she was fluent. How often has she actually used arabic in her everyday duties as a member of parliament . Is there actually any evidence that she can provide if her effectively using arabic on Public Record . She arabic on Public Record . She didnt reply. And maybe we should have asked her in arabic anyway to discuss this. Now im joined by panellist, former joined by my panellist, former bbc political bbc chief Political Correspondent sergeant, correspondent John Sergeant, director of popular conservatives Mark Littlewood, an entrepreneur and social commentator. Jarjue , commentator. Joanna jarjue, mark, ill start with you on this. Why the flipping heck is the taxpayer paying 20 grand for tangentyere debbonaire to be able to speak to refugees . Yeah, its a point. At yeah, its a fair point. At first blush, isnt it . And i kind thought that. And then kind of thought that. And then i sort of read the story. And is it its refugees . Is it because its refugees . Is that problem, patrick . That your problem, patrick . Theres mp whos theres a conservative mp whos spent more on getting polish lessons. I think thats for his constituent. Constituent. Its rather than that is he is polish. Is already polish. Believe so, but heres my i believe so, but heres my issue with it. Not actually issue with it. Its not actually the, the principle of it. I the, the, the principle of it. I can understand you can argue whether this right side whether this is the right side of line, that an mp needs of the line, that an mp needs some assistance , but some linguistic assistance, but 20 grand. Yeah, she should have a in arabic literature by a phd in arabic literature by now. I was looking through my mobile phone earlier. I wont read out the brand names, but you can get apps that teach you languages. £200 for a lifetime subscription, £200 for a lifetime subscription, 20 grand. This is absolutely extraordinary. So they should just use the cheaper version. But of course, as you rightly pointed out, patrick, when its not their money, you dont see the sort of spending the same sort of spending constraint. Yeah. Its same why. So its the same question why are we paying for this . Because its needed. Shes a pubuc because its needed. Shes a public servant. And also. Well, yeah, but shes a public servant. And its part of her job is. And its part of herjob is shes got a certain amount of people in her constituency that may need service and may may need this service and may need to communicate clearly, need her to communicate clearly, then why she then i dont see why she shouldnt make that shouldnt kind of make that effort and use chat. Gtp costs £9 a month. Gtp costs £9 a month. Well, look, im not saying that this shouldnt be any scrutiny when comes how that this shouldnt be any scrutirmoney, comes how that this shouldnt be any scrutirmoney, because; how that this shouldnt be any scrutirmoney, because even ow that this shouldnt be any scrutirmoney, because even 0\cant much money, because even i cant believe actually agree believe that i actually agree with but like with you for once. But like everything that you but everything that you said. But i cant believe spent she cant believe that it spent she spent that money, but at spent that much money, but at the time it needed. And the same time it is needed. And maybe dig deeper well maybe when we dig deeper well realise. Not like shes realise. And its not like shes the for this the one whos going for this wildly theyre wildly expensive thing. Theyre clearly a Similar Program clearly on all a Similar Program because all, you know, because theyre all, you know, not theyre all at it. I mean, you could you could go to uni and study arabic twice, three times for that. John. No the point about it is that we all know how awful most people here are about learning languages. I mean, they just languages. I mean, they just think, oh no, we dont need to bother with that. And yet, if you come across people, as ive come across people recently whove been in this country for a time, still cant speak a long time, still cant speak engush a long time, still cant speak english very well. And if you are an area which she are in an area which she represents , which is bristol represents, which is bristol west, and lots of west, there are lots and lots of people , particularly older people, particularly older people. Theyre migrants, people. Yes, theyre migrants, theyre not born in this country. And you also are trying to get them to integrate into our society. So its not that stupid to make sure that your mp , when youre trying to explain how the system works, can actually speak not perfect fluent arabic, because thats too that takes too long. Shes shes not shes not a young person then. So she needs to work quite hard to get enough fluency to sort of almost say hello and all the rest of 20 grand. Wait, wait a minute , wait wait, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. All right. The other thing is this. If you were if you were an mp and you you could mp and you offered, you could have of languages. Have all sorts of languages. Icelandic one of the icelandic was one of the languages were offering. Languages they were offering. Mandarin. So you mandarin was another. So you can just what language just apply for what the language thing idea that, oh, thing is. The idea that, oh, i know what ill do, ill have an app know what ill do, ill have an app, then ill suddenly be able to arabic. Come on. To speak arabic. Come on. No, it a bit of work. No, it takes a bit of work. No, it takes a bit of work. Private tutor in. No, its private tutor in. No, but so you its private tutor in. No, but to so you its private tutor in. No, but to learn so you its private tutor in. No, but to learn a so you its private tutor in. No, but to learn a language you its private tutor in. No, but to learn a language which have to learn a language which is extremely difficult, everyone thinks,. In five thinks, oh, its simple. In five days can speak french. No, days you can speak french. No, it takes a very, very long time for an older person. Shouldnt the people in. Is there an argument to say that the people who speak arabic dont . That the people who speak arabic dont . Dont the people her dont . Dont the people in her constituency should do more to learn english, not the other way around . I think thats right. But obviously, i mean, if its 20 ahead learn to its 20 grand ahead to learn to speak english, thats going to be of bill, right . Be one hell of a bill, right . Though. Is there were 4 or 5 years. But not years. Yeah, but youre not exaggerate this. Shes had 72 hours may hours of tuition. Now you may say, oh , there should have been say, oh, there should have been 72 hours of tuition. 72 hours of tuition. How much is it costing an houn no. Yeah, but dont forget shes got to be a moment. You dont know where the teaching is taking its taking place. Whether its in a palace. A palace. Palace. In a palace. All right. All right. Okay. But you can laugh about it. You know . Okay. So how how good are your language . Is. Are you so are you worried because its arabic . Are you worried because its arabic . Is that what you know . Im just thinking. Im worried. Im still watching. About all watching. Im worried about all of im worried. Im of it. Right im worried. Im worried that its costing taxpayers now taxpayers £20,000. Im now concerned rate concerned that the hourly rate might be bonkers. Shes only had 72 hours lessons. Im 72 hours of lessons. Im worried, frankly , a lack of worried, frankly, a lack of integration. Think i integration. And i think its i think its shocking. The whole think its shocking. The whole thing, top to bottom is a bit of a i think. A shocker, i think. Well, probably as the language, dont about language, you dont care about whether mps can whether or not your mps can communicate properly with all theirthink thats important. You i think thats important. You dont whether or not dont care about whether or not people clotheslines. People live in clotheslines. John. Id like to see evidence shes actually evidence that shes actually learning this language and using those gb questions were fair. I mean, im im very proudly trilingual. English, trilingual. Speak. English, american and australian all fluently. How much . It didnt cost me much at all. Picked it up as i went along, but we really, honestly, we may think its funny, but when you see how hopeless people are, particularly mps , at speaking particularly mps, at speaking anything apart from english, do it in a budget, but also do it within a budget. Well, if youre going to learn it as well, you should probably learn you know, probably learn in, you know, reading, speaking. Reading, writing, speaking. Its i want to see the works of literature. Can produce of literature. She can produce all of it. Im laughing, saying its pointless. Think its pointless. I say, i think its too expensive, i agree, too expensive. And i think theres some serious to answer. Serious questions to answer. Like, any evidence like, have you got any evidence that ever used this . That youve ever used this . But anyway, for anyway, coming up, feminists for Palestine Groups have been marching across the world. Tonight to Mark International womens bring you womens day, i will bring you the very latest on this pro palestine lunacy. Plus, as thousands of activists are using this International Womens day as a, you know, ability to try to actually spread the word for palestine, etc, i sat down with Israeli Government spokesman ellen levy to discuss the hamas atrocities against women, both israeli and palestinian , and how israeli and palestinian, and how these are being conveniently and appallingly ignored. Its Patrick Christys tonight on gb news. The sex pistols johnny rotten has rocked the boat this week. When he told Lbcs Andrew Marr that immigration has caused animosity in seaside towns across the country. Shall we have a little listen . Have a little listen . Britain today is so, so catastrophically disappointing, a lot of this tour that im doing, will be in seaside towns, and, i mean, they really indicate how run down britain has become. It seems to be full of what they termed a prospective immigrant arts, which are really like illegals , which are really like illegals, not being cared for properly, but then shouldnt have been, accepted in such vast numbers because its created a real, real animosity. All right. Well, i mean, immigration in seaside towns is continually hit the headlines in recent years. Hotels in places like blackpool, morecambe, scarborough and skegness have all been inundated with migrants and many local authorities have been calling on the government to help with the increasing demands on services. Joining me now to reflect on john lydons comments is conservative mp is dame andrea jenkins. Dame andrea, thank you very much. Is he right to say that seaside towns have been essentially turned into illegal migrant dumping grounds . Dumping grounds . Im first of all, patrick. Im first of all, patrick. Im first of all, patrick. I mean, i, sort of grew up and went to school in a seaside town of cleethorpes. So i understand his nostalgia for childhood. And i even took clifford to butlins skegness, about three years ago, which was an interesting experience , so, i interesting experience, so, i mean, johns right on so many things, isnt he . Patrick is interestingly, is sang about anarchy in the uk. Well, thats become a reality. And its become a reality. And its interesting also that a former punk anti establishment musician is saying what the public is thinking , is saying what the public is thinking, what the Labour Parliamentary Party cant say, so i mean, ive said this week as part of my what i would do in the budget, i would stop putting Illegal Migrants in hotels. What Illegal Migrants in hotels. What if we went abroad illegally . We wouldnt get put up a hotel. Wouldnt get put up in a hotel. So i can understand the pain that people in these that local people in these seaside towns are going through. But i think john sandy was right about the woke brigade. He was right was right right about brexit. He was right about trump and maybe about trump and biden, and maybe he be a conservative mp he could be a conservative mp what do you think, patrick . Well, i think hed liven things up, wouldnt he would things up, wouldnt he . He would definitely up. But definitely liven things up. But i or not seaside i wonder whether or not seaside towns specifically towns are specifically vulnerable unfortunately vulnerable because unfortunately , just given way that the , just given the way that the economys and by that economys moved and by that i mean, you know, you get cheap flights abroad now, so the flights abroad now, etc. So the British Seaside taken British Seaside town has taken a bit a battering, i think, in bit of a battering, i think, in many whether not many regards, whether or not they now as fodder they are seen now just as fodder for people to be sent to you know, if need be put up in social housing or some of those old bed and breakfast. And, you know, theres a lot of elderly communities in seaside towns now that will recognise where that will not recognise where they grew up and spent their whole lives. Whole lives. No, i agree, and i mean, if you look, though, the 2019 election, we actually got, a few conservative mps in these seaside towns and its seen record investment, which is great. But youre right, its, mass migration , i mean, what the mass migration, i mean, what the 700,000 net that we saw last year , it is resulting in year, it is resulting in a cultural divide, and were seeing it across europe. But its a knock on effect. And youre right, its a knock on effect. And youre right , theres a lot of youre right, theres a lot of older people retire to the seaside or they live there all their lives, but i dont think its just in seaside towns. I mean, i think, were seeing it across the uk and people are sick of it. You know, the sick of it. You know, the british people want this solving. I mean, its a knock on effect on things like gp appointments, you know, trying to get and waiting this to get in a e and waiting this mass migration amount is just way too high and weve got to fix it. And, you know, the idea that labour would actually , fix that labour would actually, fix it if they got into government is a joke, i think, patrick, because what we saw recently with the pressure that starmer put on the speaker, he put pressure because, the Diverse Communities who many labour mps represent, he put pressure on from these communities, demonstrates that they certainly would not tackle it in my books. No. I mean, labours comment no. I mean, labours comment is that theyre going to smash the gangs and theyre going to do to process people do more to process these people more which i think many more quickly, which i think many people potentially people think is potentially rolling wicket for rolling the wicket there for some Asylum Seeker some kind of Asylum Seeker amnesty, i know, having amnesty, which i know, having spoken jenrick spoken to Robert Jenrick was actually advised to had civil actually advised to be had Civil Servants were advising government to just government ministers to just have an amnesty and be done with it, so it does beg the question, what would what happen if, what would what would happen if, if labour got in power northern towns and in place in the midlands have been disproportionately also disproportionately affected also by, these Migrant Hotels as well . I mean, it is not just about the south of england, it is northern and midlands towns and seaside towns, isnt it . I mean, also , i mean, you try i mean, also, i mean, you try getting a, on the m1 motorway , getting a, on the m1 motorway, you try getting a hotel in a service station. I decided to travel back with my dog, dogs in the car, and, clifford, one time after a late vote and i was shattered driving. I thought, its not a good time driving. I phoned virtually every hotel from, you know, from watford, right up to nottingham. Every one was full. They didnt have one was full. They didnt have one room. And these are places where they let you take pets and everything. So i think there must be housing them in there as well. Thats worth looking into. But its everywhere now. Like but its everywhere now. Like i said, we could save money on the budget stopped doing this. Budget if we stopped doing this. We should not be putting up people taxpayers money. People out of taxpayers money. Now look, dame andrea, thank you very much. Absolute you very, very much. Absolute pleasure the pleasure to have you on the show. That dame andrea show. That is, dame andrea jenkyns, conservative mp, whos been chatting to us about john lydons comments. It never ceases to amaze me how theres you get someone. Right. Who was you get someone. Right. Who was you know, in the sex pistols, a massive kind of outspoken rock and roller anarchist kind of quy and roller anarchist kind of guy. You invite him on to a radio show and he says what he thinks , and everyone starts thinks, and everyone starts clutching their pearls, dont they . Oh my gosh, how dare he they . Oh my gosh, how dare he say that . You think so . Well, firstly , you know who you firstly, you know who you ianed firstly, you know who you invited on. Secondly, if you just got out of that studio , just got out of that studio, maybe wandered around certain places and like places like skegness and like scarborough , like blackpool, you scarborough, like blackpool, you would not only would realise that hes not only bang money but the vast bang on the money but the vast majority actually majority of people actually support as well. Support what he said as well. But ive got a big hour coming your yes, obviously ive your way. Yes, obviously ive got tomorrows newspaper got all of tomorrows newspaper front they are front pages for you. They are hot press so dont miss hot off the press so dont miss that. But this is the big one for thousands of for me. Thousands of pro palestine activists are using International Womens day to fly the black, red and green flag of palestine. Now, earlier today, i sat down with the Israeli Government spokesman, alon levy, to discuss hamas atrocities against women and children. By the way, both israeli and palestinian, and how these are being conveniently and appallingly ignored. Well, i cannot understand is the blind spot that liberal feminists seem to have to the appalling horrors that take place not just in palestine, not just in gaza , but palestine, not just in gaza, but right across the middle east. And frankly , ian levy puts a few and frankly, ian levy puts a few of those people back in their box. But yes , i will also be box. But yes, i will also be bringing you the latest on that and asking whether or not we should be locking up people who criminally damage artwork. Criminally damage our artwork. Ill in a tick. Ill see you in a tick. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news news. Hello again. Good evening. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update. It should stay dry through this evening for many areas, but rain and showers will push up from the southwest to bring some showery outbreaks of rain. 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There will be quite a lot of cloud around on sunday, but spells in the but some brighter spells in the southwest rain slowly southwest that rain slowly clears to leave clears through monday to leave a much brighter day much drier and brighter day on tuesday by looks like things tuesday by by looks like things are heating up boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on gb news. Brand new sundays from 6 pm. The neil oliver show. Its absolutely vital that people are given the opportunity to take part in the debate , to to take part in the debate, to say the things that matter to them, to be challenged. A country is only really a shared dream long as enough people dream as long as enough people have a shared idea of what it is, then that country exists. What gb news does is give voices somewhere they can be heard. The needle of a show sundays from 6 pm. On gb news. Its 10 pm. Im Patrick Christys tonight. Christys tonight. She found that on october 7th. Hamas not only committed acts of rape, not only gang rape , but acts of necrophilia. On two occasions. Well, weve got feminists for palestine now. Is it time to palestine now. Is it time to lock these lunatics up. And. Lock these lunatics up. And. Yeah. Terrible drivers are ruining britains roads. Yeah. Terrible drivers are ruining britains roads. And on ruining britains roads. And on my panel tonight, ive got all of tomorrows newspapers today with the director of popular conservatives , Mark Littlewood, conservatives, Mark Littlewood, ex bbc political chief, John Sergeant, finalist sergeant, apprentice finalist joanna jarjue. And why is there so much controversy about this night on the dance floor is not a song with any evil in its heart. The whole intention of that song, like this venue, is to bnng song, like this venue, is to bring joy. Yes. Get ready britain, here we go. Yes, i think it is time that feminists for palestine learnt a couple of home truths. Next. Couple of home truths. Next. Good evening from the gb newsroom. Im sam francis. A newsroom. Im sam francis. A quick look at the headlines. Just after 10 00, northern irelands first minister has apologised today to the families of alleged informers who were killed by the ira and says shes wholeheartedly committed to heaung wholeheartedly committed to healing the wounds of the past. Its after a Major Investigation found its likely that more lives were lost than saved by a double agent during the troubles, codenamed stakeknife , troubles, codenamed stakeknife, he was working covertly for the british inside the iras british army inside the iras internal security unit. Hes widely believed to have been a west belfast man who was 77 when he died last year. West belfast man who was 77 when he died last year. Solicitor he died last year. Solicitor kevin winters, who represents a number of the victims families, says the agent needs to be identified officially. Identified officially. The decision not to name Freddie Scappaticci as the agent stakeknife has been difficult for many to accept the legal and tactical rationale for doing so will be lost on many people , will be lost on many people, particularly next of kin of those murdered. Those murdered. George galloway has said today that he has hundreds of candidates who are ready to run in the next general election. The leader of the Workers Party of britain was sworn into parliament on monday of this week his by election week following his by election win last week. Speaking to neil oliver gb news earlier, the oliver on gb news earlier, the mp said his success in rochdale was the straw that broke the camels back. Spread of candidates the spread of candidates challenges, new parties , challenges, new parties, independent candidates and so on is now proceeding like wildfire. If i tell you that i have now in my pocket more than 300 prospective parliamentary candidates, all paying their own election expenses , by the way, election expenses, by the way, because we cant pay them more than 300 Workers Party parliamentary candidates. Imagine that George Galloway there and that full interview is now available on youtube and onune now available on youtube and online on our website, gbnews. Com or of course, you can tune in on tv or radio this sunday with neil oliver at 6 00 in the evening. Police have raided a chain of Funeral Homes in east yorkshire after concerns were raised about how the dead were being treated there. Detectives, we understand, are searching three branches of legacy independent Funeral Directors and the surrounding areas to determine if any criminal offences have been committed. There are currently Police Cordons in place and officers are still at each of those locations. Detectives are asking locations. Detectives are asking the public to refrain from speculation and to respect the potentially heartbroken families who are involved. The education secretary said she would have probably punched rude ofsted staff after hearing about a school inspection. Addressing school inspection. Addressing school and college leaders, Gillian Keegan says she was shocked to hear about some peoples experiences and sources close to the mp told gb news that her off the cuff comments at the q a were meant to be light hearted and not a threat of violence. Ive heard from my own you know, my own constituency. People say i had i had recently actually a fantastic school i went into and they said they told me how the officer had, you know, they were ofsted experience had gone and i was shocked. I mean, i was actually shocked. I mean, i was actually shocked. I mean, i was actually shocked. I thought, if id shocked. I thought, god, if id have people, id have have met these people, id have probably them. They probably punched them. They were really to the us, where and finally, to the us, where defence have said defence officials have said tonight that there is no verifiable of ufo verifiable evidence of ufo sightings or extraterrestrial technology. Thats in a new pentagon report. To date, arrow has found no verifiable evidence for claims that the Us Government or private companies have access to , or have been reverse engineering extraterrestrial technology. In that statement there, general pat ryder said the long running government investigation in the us since World War Two concludes that most sightings were misidentified but ordinary objects or phenomena, and it follows a separate announcement by the pentagon in 2022 that said, there was also no evidence of any alien visits or crash landings. Those are the landings. Those are the headlines. For more, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or visit our website gb news. Com alerts. Now, though, its to. Patrick. Its back to. Patrick. Today is International Womens day and i think we might now have reached peak lunacy when it comes to the pro palestine brigade. Weve already had queers for palestine. Palestine doesnt want queers. In 2016, hamas executed one of their own top dogs. Mahmoud issue. We reportedly for sleeping with a man, 25 year old ahmed abu maya. A gay man, was beheaded by thuggish homophobes in hebron. In the west bank, footage was uploaded to social media. The only pronouns for lgbt people in palestine are was slash were. Last night i showed you footage of people attacking a kebab shop in bradford because the owner, who had a free palestine poster in his window, by the way, was selling coca cola, which is apparently now some kind of zionist thing. But today on International Womens day, weve got feminists for palestine. Got feminists for palestine. They have been Holding Events in london and in bristol and a couple of other locations as well. They say as feminists, we are Global Movement to are part of a Global Movement to overcome the patriarchal, imperialist at imperialist capitalist system at the root of violence, trauma and existential threat facing humanity. The freedom of palestinians is intrinsic to our collective freedom against all forms of oppression. Feminists forms of oppression. Feminists for palestine are chickens for kfc, its turkeys for christmas. Kfc, its turkeys for christmas. Okay . It should be feminists against hamas. We have to remember how this latest situation started. Now later in the show, i am playing you an interview that ive done with alon levy, the Israeli Government spokesman, who will tell you in graphic detail the sexual crimes committed by hamas on israelis, israeli hostages , on israelis, israeli hostages, but also against palestinian women as well. But this but also against palestinian women as well. But this is a short report from the campaign against anti semitism. Against anti semitism. Since the 7th of october, we have heard harrowing witness accounts of Sexual Violence and rape carried out by hamas against israeli women. Reports of women being gang raped before being shot in the head of womens genitalia, being mutilated with knives and having their breasts cut off of their bodies being paraded around whilst men spit on them. Despite these reports of the most grotesque incidences, many womens rights movements have shamefully remained silent. Spoken too late, or denied the accounts entirely. Accounts entirely. The Metoo Movement didnt comment about this for days. Sisters uncut released a statement saying no people would ever accept being murdered, humiliated , dispossessed, humiliated, dispossessed, racially targeted, oppressed, cleansed, exiled and colonised without resisting. This means lasting peace will only be possible when palestinians are free. Period i mean, is the gang rape of israeli women justified . Rape of israeli women justified . Then movements like queers for palestine or todays feminists for palestine expose a gaping flaw in the logic of many people on the liberal left. They have a complete blind spot to the fact that many of the people they claim to be standing up for would imprison or kill or rape them, given half the chance. Them, given half the chance. Lets get the thoughts of my panel now. Now, this evening i am joined by former bbc chief Political Correspondent John Sergeant. Ive got director of popular conservatives. Its Mark Littlewood. I also have entrepreneur, social commentator and finalist joanna and apprentice finalist joanna jarjue. Now i just want to remind everybody as to stay remind everybody as well to stay tuned, because i am tuned, because shortly i am talking levy, the talking to ellen levy, the Israeli Government spokesperson, and think, a and that is, i think, quite a powerful , interview really, powerful, interview really, about the state of play over there. Certainly when it comes there. Certainly when it comes to womens rights. Mark, you know, is this feminist for palestine thing, a bit of a turkeys for christmas situation . Turkeys for christmas situation . Well, a bit. Weve got to be a bit careful here, right . I mean havent called mean they havent called themselves feminist for hamas. You an independent you can support an independent palestine be against hamas. You can support an independent paleasne be against hamas. You can support an independent paleas you be against hamas. You can support an independent paleas you rightlyigainst hamas. You can support an independent paleas you rightly pointt hamas. You can support an independent paleas you rightly point out,nas. But as you rightly point out, patrick, there doesnt seem to be great deal of nuance in be a great deal of nuance in their approach. Youre their approach. And youre youre to youre absolutely right to point out does seem to be this out there does seem to be this odd period of time, a reluctance to criticise the barbaric behaviour of hamas, not just on october the 7th, more generally. And that worries me a bit. I mean, you can call out israel if you think theyve overreacted or the rest of it , but there seems the rest of it, but there seems to be a blind spot in some elements of the left when it comes to the horrific atrocities weve seen. I cant explain that. I dont know why it is, and i think we should keep pointing it out, but you can be in favour of an independent palestine and still horrified by the leadership. The hamas leadership. Your views on and johnny, your views on this. I know youre very pro palestine, you . So how do palestine, arent you . So how do you up the of womens you marry up the idea of womens rights and what goes on in palestine . Well, i think that its very easy to kind of criticise these feminists because of everything that happened on october 7th. But think that the situation but i think that the situation in palestine is an ongoing situation. Right so i think for a lot of the people on the left, they did actually call out the horrific events that happened that, you know, that hamas attacks it happened. But attacks when it happened. But also seeing thousands and also were seeing thousands and thousands and thousands of people dying. And i people continuously dying. And i think that in the context of about feminism , the palestinian about feminism, the palestinian women right this second, who have no access to Menstrual Hygiene products, who are being bombed theyre giving bombed while theyre giving birth, and billions of pounds in aid hamas, and theyve spent aid to hamas, and theyve spent that aid on building tunnels and so they can, you know, launch rockets into they could you could, you could have easily with that amount of money that theyd received, looked after every single woman in gaza, wasnt it said that the Israeli Government involved government was involved in building tunnels as well . Building those tunnels as well . Wasnt there like big dispute wasnt there like a big dispute about actually built the about who actually built the tunnels . Hasnt tunnels . There was hasnt actually a lot of actually been confirmed a lot of those i think that we those things. So i think that we kind of have to be careful when it comes to but were it comes to that. But were talking you talking about the immediate, you know, happening. Know, thing thats happening. And thats not kind and i think that thats not kind of not thats not of well, thats not thats not kind what hamas kind of saying that what hamas did october 7th isnt did on october 7th isnt horrific, but also two things can can be true the same can can be true at the same time. Im disputing that time. Im not disputing that hamas, you know, rape those hamas, did, you know, rape those victims those, those, victims and those, those, hostages. But also it can be true that palestinian women are going through an ongoing situation about 9000 people have died. People are giving birth with anaesthesia. Thats what with no anaesthesia. Thats what theyre campaigning against. John, one of the things that the ellen levy goes on to discuss is how he knows first hand that hamas are using israeli female hostages as as sexual playthings and using them as bargaining chips. You know, if this feminist for Palestine Movement had anything about them, wouldnt they be calling for the release of the female hostages, do you think . Well, some of them may be, but i think the mistake but i mean, i think the mistake is to imagine that you is to imagine that because you go demonstration, because go on a demonstration, because youre whats going go on a demonstration, because youregaza, whats going go on a demonstration, because youregaza, that whats going go on a demonstration, because youregaza, that somehow going go on a demonstration, because youregaza, that somehow you; on in gaza, that somehow you have now have a complete have now got to have a complete sort of ideological picture of. But on but what about what happened on october 7 . We know that was horrendous. Know that horrendous. We know that perfectly. Were reminded perfectly well. Were reminded of i enough. Mean, of it, i think, enough. I mean, you may say, oh, we ought to be reminded of it maybe 4 or 5 hours a we should be hours a day. We should be reminded. Israelis certainly reminded. The israelis certainly feel about it, feel very strongly about it, quite so. But you quite understandably so. But you must allow for people to must also allow for people to see what is happening in gaza now , where youve got 30,000 now, where youve got 30,000 people killed, most of them women and children. You may say, i could dispute whether its exactly 30,000. All right. These are rough figures , and theyre are rough figures, and theyre horrified by that. Now, why didnt more womens groups chant me two sisters uncut loads of them. Where were they on the days that jewish women were being raped and jewish children were being raped . They kept silent on it. Because they did. They did. They kept silence. Just come out. Hadnt had look. They hadnt had time to look. It only took about 24 hours for that take so the that event to take place. So the idea that you could suddenly whip days in some cases, never. But hold on a moment. If youre saying that people in britain didnt care about october the 7th, is a stupid thing to 7th, that is a stupid thing to say. They did. No, im saying if youre saying if you listen to me, john, if listen to me, me, john, if you listen to me, john, am saying a john, i am saying a straightforward fact, which is that a blind that womens groups have a blind spot a of the time when it spot a lot of the time when it comes israeli women being comes to israeli women being raped in way do not. Raped in a way they do not. Thats not fair. Thats not fair. Else . Anyone else . Anyone else . Patrick . Patrick, thats not fair. John said, it fair. Because like john said, it basically short basically happened in a short amount time. And with amount of time. And even with this report, coming out this un report, its coming out now. Now. Say that people now. Now. So to say that people havent out, theres havent spoken out, theres a lot information thats kind havent spoken out, theres a lotbeeniformation thats kind havent spoken out, theres a lotbeen drip ation thats kind havent spoken out, theres a lotbeen drip fed. 1 thats kind havent spoken out, theres a lotbeen drip fed. Butits kind of been drip fed. But unfortunately happened unfortunately whats happened is that look the two that when you look at the two situation two situations, situation to two situations, october seventh was horrific. But you know, quite quickly that was , to be fair, kind of was, to be fair, kind of overshadowed by so many things that just happening day that were just happening day after after the after day after day in the images. And doesnt make images. And that doesnt make october less serious. October 7th any less serious. Its the fact that weve its just the fact that weve got to a point where we had a really bad palestine. Joanna at, and hamas were allowed to carry what would allowed to carry on. What would womens like in that, womens rights be like in that, in free palestine, you think . But a free palestine doesnt necessarily people necessarily mean that people want necessarily in want hamas to necessarily be in charge. Charge. There also the palestinian there is also the palestinian authority, is why authority, and this is why i have a problem with the fact that people and politicians means people, especially politicians internationally , politicians internationally, never try to take any type of diplomatic route. And i understand that its, you know, very difficult to say, well, im going to negotiate with terrorists. At the end of terrorists. But at the end of the look at whats the day, look at whats happening russia. Happening in ukraine and russia. We have these ongoing we just have these ongoing things. People die and things. 30,000 people die and people tried to people just never tried to actually the table actually get around the table to stop that. They have done. Well, they have done. Well, they have done. Also, are you that but also, are you saying that we cant demonstrations in we cant see demonstrations in this when people are this country when people are very worked up by what they see and theyre demonstrating, theyre protesting people going into and shouting into a tescos and shouting at israeli avocado. Israeli avocado. So weve got people beating the living daylights out of kebab shop owners with, no, i wont hang on a moment. I dont know where been living know where youve been living actually, got actually, john, youve got people palestine flags people with pro palestine flags in their kebab shop windows in bradford, because theyre bradford, who because theyre selling coca cola, are now getting up. Getting beaten up. I mean, for goodness sake, everyone takes part in everyone who takes part in a march with all that. March agrees with all that. There are excesses going on, there are extremists behaviour thats very little to do. Thats got very little to do. Look, we have demonstrations look, can we have demonstrations in london . Thats not what im talking pro israel. Ive been listening to you in bristol. Youre having an argument about a completely different issue. But look, there seems but look, look, there seems to look, i think it is to be look, i think it is reasonable, as joanna and john are pointing out, can are pointing out, you can condemn without to condemn x without having to condemn x without having to condemn y. You know, you cant you cant say to somebody that, well, if youve condemned that, heres a list of a million other things condemn. But where im things to condemn. But where im rather you, patrick, feel rather with you, patrick, i feel just that there seems to just uneasy that there seems to be reticence or slowness in be a reticence or a slowness in calling it out on in an even handed fashion. Ill put it. Ill put it no more strongly than that. That seems to me to be there, and that it is that we dont hear enough. Now, john, youre right. We dont need five hours a day to remind us of october the 7th. Course, regularly and the of course, regularly and the israeli doing Israeli Government are doing this theyre this very well. Theyre keeping this very well. Theyre keeping this alive. Hostages this alive. The hostages families it all families are keeping it all alive. Families are keeping it all auve. The families are keeping it all alive. The idea. What do you want them to do . Were being excluded from this or were not the its the problem is no, its a question Civil Society, question of how Civil Society, what raising how what patrick is raising is how these society these Civil Society groups behave. These Civil Society groups beisorry. Sorry. Sorry. Dont want p sorry. Dont want a ceasefire. Hamas dont want a ceasefire. You understand this, both of you, you know, talks you, dont you . You know, talks have down a have just broken down a ceasefire hamas dont ceasefire because hamas dont want. Want a ceasefire. Well, they dont want the terms ceasefire because terms of the ceasefire because they is things they want, which is things like release hostages. They want, which is things like relethen hostages. They want, which is things like relethen israel. Tages. They want, which is things like relethen israel doesnt want then israel doesnt want a ceasefire either. Dont you that, too . Why dont you say that, too . Why dont you say that, too . Fighting they theyre fighting what they see correctly, their see quite correctly, as their lives. This youre lives. That is this hamas youre talking are. I mean, talking about. They are. I mean, you may say i disagree with them, and were on them, and they were wrong. On october be october 7th. They shouldnt be doing if youre saying doing this. But if youre saying about it, were obviously what is going on. Patrick, you know that israel, israel also dont want a ceasefire, right . Ceasefire, right . You that. You know that. You know that. So round of talks are going. So when hamas come out and say we dont want a ceasefire, right heck do we still right. Why the heck do we still have out every single day have people out every single day of the week somewhere around the country . Weve got country . I mean, weve got a clip later on. If someone has decided that Cambridge University strip university is trying to strip out, living daylights out of out, the living daylights out of a of artwork, i mean, this a piece of artwork, i mean, this is what i dont understand. Rather with you. Look, im rather with you. Look, its incredibly complicated its an incredibly complicated situation here, and i dont pretend to understand every nuance really dont. Nuance of it, i really dont. But after october the 7th, surely you expect israel to take some pretty serious action to defend itself and end and hamas needs to be removed, essentially, of course. And that cannot be done without the loss of a lot of innocent life. Weve done. Similarly, when this is completely different, the trouble is that, in fact, from early on, there were lots of people i was certainly one of them who thought, this is all very well, but is it going to work . I dont know, be able to separate hamas people separate the hamas people from the ordinary civilians. What what the feeling among what will the feeling be among the ordinary . But theyre endeavouring to so. Wont endeavouring to do so. Wont they hamas more they then support hamas more strongly . Thats what happens strongly . Thats what happens when you bomb people. What i find interesting to do that, i, what i find seem that, what i, what i find seem to me would work. What i to me that it would work. What i find. I find. Well ill tell you, i youre fine. What i incredibly but what i find incredibly interesting is i go out and interesting is when i go out and about these marches and about into these marches and i ask people think about ask people what they think about hamas, actually a lot of hamas, that actually a lot of those people dont think hamas are a terror group. And so you talk there differentiating talk there about differentiating between hamas and ordinary citizens. And its and its and, citizens. And its and its and, you if in this country you know, if in this country its difficult to do that, i wonder how difficult it is to do in gaza. But anyway, anyway, right , okay. Look loads still to right, okay. Look loads still to come. Donald trump gives his colourful verdict on President Bidens state of the Union Address medium address through the medium of snapchat filters. But next, look, follow really look, its a follow on really from were talking about from what we were talking about there. Thousands there. But thousands of pro palestine use pro palestine activists use International Fly International Womens day to fly that black, and green flag. That black, red and green flag. I sit down the israeli i did sit down with the Israeli Government spokesman, ellen levy, discuss hamass levy, to discuss hamass atrocities both atrocities against women, both israeli and palestinian, how israeli and palestinian, and how these conveniently and these are being conveniently and in cases, appallingly in many cases, appallingly ignored. Christys ignored. Patrick christys tonight. Gb news. Brand new sundays from 6 pm. The neil oliver show. Its absolutely vital that people are given the opportunity to take part in the debate. Part in the debate. To say the things that matter to them, to be challenged. A country is only really a shared dream. As long as enough people have a shared idea of what it is, then that country exists. What gb news does is give voices somewhere they can be heard. The renewal of a show sundays from 6 pm. On. The renewal of a show sundays from 6 pm. On. Gb news. From 6 pm. On. Gb news. Yes. Welcome back. Now look, thousands of pro Palestine Protesters are taking advantage of International Womens day. Of International Womens day. And i spoke earlier with Israeli Government spokesman alon levy to discuss hamass barbaric acts done against women, how theyve been ignored and i also wanted to get an update on some of the israeli hostages who are sadly still in those hamas tunnels as well. I still in those hamas tunnels as well. I asked him initially about what his reaction was for the feminist for Palestine Movement today. Pretty pathetic to see people marching for hamas rapists and calling it liberation. I mean, what do they think the Hamas Terrorists who perpetrated the barbaric atrocities of october 7th are freedom rapists . We know that right now hamas is raping the hostages in the terror tunnels. Thats what the un said in its special report about the Sexual Atrocities of october 7th, by the way, not only against women, against men as well. Thats what the survivors of hamas captivity are telling us. Us. Yeah, i wanted to know what actually were some of the atrocities that have happened to the women. Just just a disclaimer, obviously, you know , disclaimer, obviously, you know, this is distressing stuff, but i do think it is important to get it across. Disturbing findings of the un special representative for Sexual Violence in conflict. She Sexual Violence in conflict. She found that on october 7th, hamas not only committed acts of rape, not only committed acts of rape, not only committed acts of rape, not only gang rape, but acts of necrophilia on two occasions raping the bodies of the victims it murdered. Hamas used Sexual Violence in a clear, widespread and systematic manner on october 7th and is still subjecting the poor hostages we havent heard a word from in over 150 days. The argument by a lot of these feminists for Palestine Movement is that this is a patriarchal war, okay . And israel is blocking aid in gaza sanitary products. They cant get in. Apparently bring down hamas, so it cant do it again. And to bring back the hostages. Now, the people who are currently denied doing the Sexual Atrocities, covering up the sex crimes of the hamas rapist regime , its because they rapist regime, its because they want to believe that hamas are their heroes. They want to believe that the terrorists who committed those barbarities are Freedom Fighters and fighting for liberation. For liberation. Also, i wondered if it was fair to say that hamas doesnt actually treat their own female citizens that well is itself the very definition of violent patriarchy. I dont think they have very many women leaders. They systematically oppress all minorities in the gaza strip. Certainly lgbt people , but also certainly lgbt people, but also women as well. This is a deeply conservative, deeply patriarchal society. Society. Yeah. And a lot of people here are, as we know , out on the here are, as we know, out on the streets, will have more of it tomorrow, wont we, saying, oh, look, come on, we need a ceasefire now. We need a ceasefire now. We need a ceasefire now. We need a ceasefire now. I just wanted to ceasefire now. I just wanted to know where we were up to in terms of hamas actually wanting a how a ceasefire and how the negotiations on, to negotiations are going on, to see a temporary pause in the fighting will enable us to fighting that will enable us to get out. Get hostages out. Although ultimately, this war will end with either the surrender the defeat of surrender or the defeat of hamas. We are not going to leave hamas. We are not going to leave hamas in power in the gaza strip when it is threatening to perpetrate the october 7th atrocities again and again. But atrocities again and again. But hamas has an opportunity right now to stop the fighting temporarily in order to let hostages out. And it doesnt want to do that. But it is plain that hamas is not interested in taking that opportunity for a pause in the fighting. Hamas is determined to fight to the last man standing. Yes, indeed. And look , yes, indeed. And look, tomorrow, despite what rishi sunak says and despite the police saying that they are going to continue to manage these protests, were going to end up with more process, arent we . Were going end up with we . Were going to end up with more coming out and more people coming out and saying, ceasefire now, saying, we need a ceasefire now, saying, we need a ceasefire now, saying the saying that clearly the only issue about ceasefire is that israel allowing israel arent allowing a ceasefire despite hamas clearly not and as not wanting one either. And as it is International Womens day again, i just wanted to yet again, i just wanted to yet again remind people of some of the atrocities that hamas have been committing against women. And just to think as well, about , all right, this in this context, its hamas and its in the gaza strip and its all of that stuff. But really think about that part of the world and that region of the world, okay . And whether or not feminist groups do enough to call out the barbaric acts that take place against women in that region , against women in that region, really, with israel arguably being the kind of only exception when the hostages are 19 women, the survivors are telling us the most Shocking Stories about rape at gunpoint, about how hamas is dressing up the women as dolls and treating them as puppets on string. There was one hostage who came back and said that some of the women hostages are missing their periods , and she can only their periods, and she can only hope that its the bodies defensive mechanism shutting itself down so they cant get pregnant. And not that they are already pregnant by their captors. That what we are captors. That is what we are talking about. Its worth bearing that in mind. I think tomorrow, if mind. I think tomorrow, if people are considering going on some of these marches and certainly the feminists for palestine well , Palestine Movements as well, that was ellen levy there. The spokesman for the Israeli Government. Coming up, my top government. Coming up, my top panel give us greatest panel give us their greatest britain and Union Jackass nominations. But next, tomorrows pages. They are tomorrows front pages. They are hot off the press with top reactions from my press pack. I have also just seen a story here which includes a video clip which includes a video clip which we will bring to you as well about Meghan Markle. All right. Welcome back. Its time to bring you tomorrows news tonight. Now in our press pack. Lets do it. Lets start pack. Lets do it. Lets start with the front page of the eye. Its budget falls flat as tories lose votes to reform. Its the latest round of opinion polling which appears to have reform on 13 20 of the public support. The 2024 budget, 39 oppose it. So thats the latest from the eye. Lets go to the daily express. Queen camilla to the rescue. As king and kate rescue. As king and kate recover, the queen is ready to take on even more royal duties as the king and kate continue to recover. I do believe shes off on a little holiday at some point there, which i think is probably fair enough. The mirror oh great spice girls exclusive. Its tough for geri. We have all reached out to her. Mel bs anguish at pals family strife just amaze me how much Media Attention this storys getting. But anyway, the daily mail boosted defence spending now for former defence secretaries back the mails campaign. Look, Mark Francois actually did say at the budget as well, you know, is putin going to have to be in warsaw before we decide that were going to actually spend what we on the mirror, what we spend on the mirror, keep it on the screen at the moment, because weve moment, though, because weve got weve got the, Meghan Markle, online markle, meghan, the worst online abuse attacking women, abuse is women attacking women, she she its not she says. And she says its not catty, its cruel. And i do believe, well, ill introduce my panel again. I have got John Sergeant, of course, former bbc, political bigwig. Ive also, of course, got the director of pubuc course, got the director of public services, Mark Littlewood, and entrepreneur and social commentator joanna jarjue. Focus a little bit jarjue. Lets focus a little bit on this story. Now, Meghan Markle says that she was cyber bullied pregnant with bullied while pregnant with archie she takes archie and lilibet as she Takes Centre Stage at a star studded International Day panel, International Womens day panel, while harry watches on from the front row. I believe im right in saying have a little in saying we might have a little clip this, i think. Yeah, clip of this, i think. Yeah, there we go. Oh, any second now. The bulk of the bullying and abuse that i was experiencing in social media and online was when i was pregnant with archie and with lili, and with a newborn, with lili, and with a newborn, with each of them , and you just with each of them, and you just think about that, and you , its think about that, and you, its really wrap your head around why people would be so hateful. Its not catty. Its cruel why you not catty. Its cruel why you would do that. And certainly when youre pregnant or you have a newborn, we all, as moms, you know, its such a tender and sacred time , john. Sacred time, john. Well, i mean, shes saying that shes actually once again talking about herself, isnt she . She says women attacking other women. And then she says, and when i was in this position, all these people were being horrid to me. Theyre being horrid to me. Theyre being horrid because of her behaviour and done. And the and what shes done. And the whole sort of meghan saga doesnt fill me with, oh, isnt she, isnt she lovely . Now, im not saying i would send abusive messages to her because that wouldnt character , but i wouldnt be my character, but i cant say ive got an enormous amount of sympathy for him. Going kick off, joannas going to kick off, not on. Not go on. I mean, was pregnant and i mean, she was pregnant and i actually think that a lot of the press are the ones who fuelled talking about how fuelled this, talking about how shes stomach too shes touching her stomach too much, how many times do you walk down the street and you see a fully pregnant cradling fully pregnant woman cradling her bump . But when its her bump . But then when its kate, oh. Tenderly kate, its oh. Kate tenderly rubs the . Honestly, rubs her. What the . Honestly, i just think women just think, and i think women should know better to be going after and know now after someone. And we know now from things shes from the things that shes divulged to it was when divulged to us that it was when she heavily pregnant that she was heavily pregnant that she was heavily pregnant that she had that, those suicidal thoughts. Even thoughts. So it makes it even more cruel. Arguments, though, that any arguments, though, that women use against meghan women can use against meghan that youre, that youre going to though people to accept, though lots of people. Look, i some people like. Look, i think some people like me, didnt like her, but all me, men didnt like her, but all sort of women also thought she was terrible. And dont like people are entitled opinion on meghan. Im not saying that everybody has meghan, it gets has to love meghan, but it gets to where get a life like to a point where get a life like for be going online for you to be going online and going pregnant woman going after a pregnant woman just unnecessarily. Of of course it yeah, of course, of course it is. Wants nobody would is. Nobody wants nobody would justify horrific online abuse. Whatever you think of the personality. But okay, we only saw the short clip there. I might have to watch her full two hour lecture. I guess , but what hour lecture. I guess, but what insight did she have . Why does she the bulk, presumably she think the bulk, presumably meaning the majority of online abuse, while she was abuse, was while she was pregnant . Well, shes got any insight explain that no. Why insight to explain that no. Why is attacking women the is women attacking women the worst of abuse . Why not men worst form of abuse . Why not men attacking women . Because it doesnt, she doesnt really seem to reach any meaningful conclusions women. Conclusions as women. I havent had a baby yet, but i can empathise with how difficult it is. So i think as a woman you would just expect that some women would just be like, you know what, leave her alone at moment, princess kate at the moment, princess kate is ill everybodys leave ill and everybodys like, leave her alone , ill. But when her alone, shes ill. But when shes pregnant, lets take your example , jana. Example, jana. If you become pregnant, i cant imagine people sending abusive messages you. Im abusive messages to you. Im sorry, its very, very unlikely. I literally witnessed it. Im on twitter, even the media. On twitter, even in the media. Pregnant. Pregnant. Yet, though. Till yet, though. You wait till youre pregnant. And then just then a note to me saying then send me a note to me saying youre quite right. When im pregnant, had much pregnant, i havent had much horrendous all of horrendous abuse. All sorts of people are being rather nice to me, right . I mean, but and i am as i mean, but but and i am as regular viewers and listeners to this show. No, not exactly this show. Well, no, not exactly one stand up for meghan one to stand up for Meghan Markle, did get markle, but she she did get abuse while was pregnant. Abuse while she was pregnant. I mean, happen. Whether mean, that did happen. Whether or at the extent to or not its at the extent to which shes saying it was or what level of effect it what genuine level of effect it had her, dont know. But had on her, i dont know. But i mean, there was there was abuse. But think for me, it was the but i think for me, it was the idea prince harrys sitting idea that prince harrys sitting on watching from the front on and watching from the front row yeah row as well. Yeah bless, bless. Bless, bless. I it goes to johns but i think it goes to johns point well. All of these point as well. All of these stories seem about her. If stories seem to be about her. If she was genuinely talking about the picture abuse that the wider picture of abuse that young or pregnant women receive onune young or pregnant women receive online and adducing evidence of other characters who would receive this or, you know, aggregating together how horrific anti women abuses on twitter. I get it, but its twitter. I get it, but its always all about her. Its narcissistic, its totally narcissistic. Whatever you want to see, totally narcissistic, see whatever you want to see. She literally talked about the wider problem, and then shes on panel and then shes on a panel and then related it back to her. She related it back to her. She related it back to her. She related it all about her. Ive done these types of panels. They ask you your own ask you about your own experience. You just want to experience. You just want to hate on leave it alone. Hate on her. Leave it alone. Lets let alone lets wish this on. Lets ignore her. I would. Lets ignore her. I would. Okay . All right. Well. So, look, this is. Were not going to about the palestine to talk about the palestine angle this because weve done angle to this because weve done angle to this because weve done a lot of that tonight. A heck of a lot of that tonight. Im going to talk its im going to talk about its just of nursery just the latest kind of nursery involving. Vandalism involving. Well, its vandalism isnt look at isnt it . We just have a look at this. Right. So as you just saw an activist associated with a Palestine Group violently attacked a portrait of former Prime Minister lord balfour. Well, Palestine Action said that they decided to take action over they decided to take action over the 1917 Balfour Declaration and balfour issued a statement promising to help create a National Home for the jewish people in palestine. Lets not a bit of , you know, weve had bit of, you know, weve had enough, i think, of the actual palestine that was justified. We are this kind of are seeing this kind of behaviour when it comes to behaviour more when it comes to actually vandalising artwork, etc. This should we etc. My point is this should we lock him up . Do you need to lock him up . I dont know, this is criminal damage. I dont know whether we can identify the person whos done dont know how done it. I dont know how valuable painting is. Valuable that painting is. Probably of probably many, many thousands of pounds. Should be charged pounds. So you should be charged with. And with criminal damage. And you should bill the should face a bill for the restoration of the picture, or for the cost of what it was worth prior to your actions. Thats what should be faced. Not a sort of oh, now i see you were making an interesting point here. You can complain about balfour else you want balfour or anybody else you want to about take to complain about when you take it that do you need to it to that level. Do you need to lock him up . Im totally lock him up . Im not totally sure that the sort of sure that thats the sort of offence jail but offence you go to jail for, but you fine you should definitely be fine for cost of what youve for the full cost of what youve done. Prosecute. You prosecute. You prosecute. Not that you im not sure that you shouldnt i mean, i really shouldnt lock. I mean, i really do think this appalling do think this is appalling behaviour. Completely behaviour. Its completely unnecessary. It does for unnecessary. It does nothing for your cause. It really is something. Demonstrating your cause. It really is sonstreets demonstrating your cause. It really is son streets is demonstrating your cause. It really is son streets is onefonstrating your cause. It really is son streets is one thing. Iting your cause. It really is sonstreets is one thing. Going the streets is one thing. Going to gallery and criminal to an art gallery and criminal damage for sure. No, but i think its just its just very , very its just its just very, very poor behaviour. Also draw they want to also draw attention to the history. And i think that thats a bit, you know, of the context that a lot of how did of people miss. And how did we even to place . You even get to this place . You know, start on october know, it didnt start on october 7th. Some people say it did. And other the other side other people on the other side of argument cant around. Of the argument cant go around. Go around. You cant go around. You cant go around. Its a engaging but its a its a engaging criminal activity. Want them to do, what do you want them to do, go and stroke his portrait on the side . The other side . Send out a press he should send out a press release. A poster. You release. Design a poster. You cant cant around. You cant you cant go around. You cant you cant go around. You cant go around destroying works of an of art because its an interesting get your argument. Shouldnt rebellion criminal . Same thing. Its criminal. Its criminal activity. W ma wm e be i mean, that that would be i mean, that was my kind my was actually my kind of my point, which is like, is it point, which is that like, is it all right extinction all right if Extinction Rebellion i dont rebellion do i mean, i dont think think they should be think i think they should be prosecuted that as but prosecuted for that as well. But what do think they should be prosecuted . I dont think that they should prosecuted. Its not should be prosecuted. Its not the like. Should be prosecuted. Its not tiprefer like. Should be prosecuted. Its not tiprefer calmly like. Should be prosecuted. Its not tiprefer calmly and. I prefer just walk calmly and peacefully the street. So peacefully in the street. So its really. But at the its never really. But at the end of the theyve also end of the day, theyve also drawn it, which drawn attention to it, which is what want a protest. What you want from a protest. Were now. Were talking about it now. A lot people wont have known lot of people wont have known about the balfour agreement. So, but you want so, but you also want people to and idea to agree with you and the idea that, because that, arent i clever because ive managed paint over ive managed to throw paint over a work of art . Dont you agree with me . Think i could with me . Do you think i could agree with all sorts of things . But that. But not that. Yeah, youre not going to get the with that the moderates on side with that sort you might sort of behaviour. You might appeal the gallery. Appeal to the gallery. Youll get retweets likes get lots of retweets and likes on if youre trying to on twitter. If youre trying to make this point to the moderates who say, im quite sure who say, im not quite sure which fall, this sort of which way to fall, this sort of behaviour turnoff. Behaviour is a complete turnoff. Switch complete switch off. Complete switch off. That just were i worry that were just were seeing every day something seeing its every day Something Like arrest, its a like this arrest, its a criminal activity under english law. I asked him, saw this, and i just kind of scrolled past because i thought it was another. So i was like, oh, okay. Itsjust another. So i was like, oh, okay. Its just another its another friday type of thing. So it losing its effect because it is losing its effect because you just the same thing over you just do the same thing over and again. And over again. Friday another typical friday out in an just the way it an art gallery, just the way it is days. Is these days. I know im doing later. Yeah, i know im doing later. Dont know you anyway. Dont know about you anyway. Right. More of right. Look, coming up, more of tomorrows front pages tomorrows newspaper front pages for got tonights for you. And weve got tonights greatest union greatest britain and Union Jackass. Donald trump jackass. But next, donald trump gives his colourful verdict on President Bidens state of the Union Address through the medium of snapchat filters. Dont miss it okay. Welcome back. Its time to return to the liveliest pay per view. Youll get anywhere on telly with more of your front pages. The times weve lost faith in justice a stab victims mothers. In an emotional interview, parents accused police and the cps of failing them over the nottingham killings. Gosh, yes. Emma webber there has been on the show. Sinead omalley kumar. They want a Public Inquiry into the decision not to prosecute Valdo Calocane for murder. Yeah. Lets calocane for murder. Yeah. Lets go to the telegraph. Yusuf in raw over £250,000 gaza cash. The first minister of scotland overruled officials advice on funding whilst his family was stuck in the war zone. Humza yousaf has been accused of a conflict of interest, giving 250 grand, apparently to gaza. We go grand, apparently to gaza. We go to the sun now. £148 million winner kicks out hubby for blowing millions. Thats celotto, says the sun lotto winner Gillian Bayford has kicked out her husband after he squandered millions from her share of the £148 million fortune. Can i just say if id have come into £148 million, i would have been dead in a week. So, you know, theres that. The guardian ten of elective operations done in private hospitals , more lives lost than hospitals, more lives lost than saved by a british spy in the ira. So there we go. The guardian leading on those things. Now, we are a little bit pressed for time , but im joined pressed for time, but im joined again by my press pack. It is former bbc chief Political Correspondent , John Sergeant. Correspondent, John Sergeant. Ive director popular ive got director of popular conservatives littlewood , conservatives Mark Littlewood, an entrepreneur and social commentator now commentator joanna jarjue. Now the state of britains roads. Okay, its been back in the headunes okay, its been back in the headlines today. Average speeds on and major a roads on motorways and major a roads throughout the country have dropped to 57 miles an hour in 2023. This report comes as a new campaign has been launched by national highways to target drivers the middle lane drivers who hog the middle lane on motorways, as a new survey has revealed that 32 of drivers admit to hogging it. Occasionally, 5 say they always do it. I find occasionally, 5 say they always do it. I find that remarkable, are you all drivers . Are you all drivers . I havent driven a car for nearly 30 years. Well, you havent driven a car for 30 years. You dont drive. You dont drive. Joanna, i live on uber. Joanna, i live on uber. You live on uber. You do drive . Yes. No, i certainly do. No, i certainly do. Middle drivers. Middle lane drivers. Middle lane drivers. Not all the time. But if i feel ive got and if i feel feel ive got to. And if i feel theres a bus about to stop on theres a bus about to stop on the lane, temptation the inner lane, the temptation to dont where to just say, i dont know where the whether bus is going to be the whether a bus is going to be in that lane. Yeah. And if i, if i ive got to sit behind i do, ive got to sit behind them ive got to move out them or ive got to move out quickly. Yeah. Are quickly. Yeah. So there are roads and for it. There roads and roads for it. There are times even on, you know, dual carriageways where the dual carriageways where its the sensible thing to do is to, is to hog the middle lane. That winds me up more than middle lane. Hoggers is when the motorways empty motorways completely empty at night youve lanes night and youve got four lanes of empty road and its got 50 miles. Are these not so smart motorways. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what about this . Its just a thought. Im a road just a thought. Im not a road safety expert, conceded safety expert, having conceded that although im legally entitled drive, ive still entitled to drive, ive still got a driving licence. I havent been disqualified, be been disqualified, but id be incompetent so. How about incompetent to do so. How about this, rather than having these 50 mile an limits have you 50 mile an hour limits have you have be doing at least 60 if have to be doing at least 60 if youre the middle right youre in the middle lane, right. If youre if youre only doing 52, youre breaking the law. Youve got to be going at a clip of 60 miles an hour or faster or get out of the middle lane, see, now how you stop people now thats how you stop people being too just being too slow, not too just fast. Yeah. Now, we all agree that now, can we all agree that cyclists a menace . Yeah, absolutely. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Even when i was yeah. Even when i was learning drive. Absolutely. Learning to drive. Absolutely. Had road against even i had road rage against cyclists slam dunk. Unanimous view. Yeah. Unanimous view. Yeah. Gosh. Right now look, oh, gosh. Right now look, this story is just as a warning. Its of funny. Not funny. Its kind of funny. Not funny. All right. So pop star Sophie Ellis Baxter has experienced somewhat of a resurgence in popularity in recent months with her hit track murder on the dance floor reaching the top of the charts. So on tuesday night, ellis baxter performed, though at the bataclan concert hall. So yeah, a parisian venue where, sadly 90 people were killed in a terrorist attack in 2015 before singing murder on the dance floor, the pop star took a moment to recognise the sensitivity surrounding the lyrics of the song. Here we go, mademoiselle flore is not a song with any evil in its heart. The whole intention of that song, like this venue, is to bnng song, like this venue, is to bring joy. Bring joy. To bakhmut today. To bakhmut today. Hes not great, is it, though , i dont think. I think whoever booked the venue there , would he booked the venue there, would he go right, sophie, youve got youre doing, youre doing the man. Youve got the apollo. Youre off to berlin. Bataclan. Youre off to berlin. Bataclan. What was that . The bataclan . Im what was that . The bataclan . Im not sure. Its a pretty icky, isnt it . Its a pretty icky, isnt it . It just doesnt feel right at all. It feels grim. It feels all. It feels grim. It feels grim, tacky and nasty. Shes got a point. I mean, look, shes. I think she. To be fair, im a massive fan of sevilla. I think shes styled it out. And its also definitely not her fault. Right she doesnt book her venues. She doesnt book her own venues. Yeah, someone to do yeah, shes got someone to do a bit about it though. Dont go to. Bit about it though. Yeah,ont go to. Bit about it though. Yeah,ont dont 0 to. Bit about it though. Yeah,ont dont just go to yeah, you dont just go to any and just. Any venue and just. I dont where this is. She might have said, i dont think this im not going to play this song in my set or something. She might have said something. At she said something. At least she said something. Shes enough emotional shes got enough Emotional Intelligence to kind of acknowledge. Totally i know this is totally inappropriate, but im going to do it anyway. Thats basically what saying. What shes saying. She do you imagine if she had just it . Yeah just opened up with it . Yeah preamble. Just. At the no preamble. Just. But at the same probably felt same time, she probably felt obuged do same time, she probably felt obliged do that song because same time, she probably felt obligsongsdo that song because same time, she probably felt obligsongs beenit song because same time, she probably felt obligsongs been going| because same time, she probably felt obligsongs been going| beciase that songs been going viral a lot on on tiktok. Thats why the tours, a lot of people, but the people of people, but then the people who to see it who who were going to see it knew what the venue and knew knew what the venue was and knew what most famous for. What shes most famous for. True, felt so its true, felt uncomfortable. Absolutely. Right. Okay. Oh, yes. Ive got video for now. Got another video for you now. The us president ial election starts ramp donald trump starts to ramp up. Donald trump has found yet another way to poke his rival, joe biden poke fun at his rival, joe biden. Hes taken instagram to. Hes taken to instagram to play. Hes taken to instagram to play filters on poor play snapchat, filters on poor old President Biden to make him look even more ridiculous. Look even more ridiculous. So were going to buy american. Were going to buy american. Were going to buy american. Were going to buy american votes. So trade rules. American votes. So trade rules. Why america has been the law since 1933, also caps and wont go into effect until 2025. And by the way, that law was written and the benefit expires in 2025, new electric grids that are able to weather major storms and not prevent those fire forest fires. Prevent those fire forest fires. I mean, its small little. I mean, its small little. Its gone. Weve lost mark. Weve lost everyone. Its brilliant. Its brilliant. Its brilliant. Its absolutely brilliant. Its absolutely brilliant. All right, all right. We are pressed for time. Now lets go straight into the greatest union jack greatest britain. Union jack asks them could talk asks if any of them could talk after right, john, after that, right, john, lets be snappy. Britain be snappy. Greatest britain greatest britain. Honorary one joe biden. Honorary one joe biden. Oh oh , what timing, i know. Oh oh, what timing, i know. Wait a moment, i know, and its a slightly frivolous point, but hes giving an example to 81 year olds that you can plan for your future as if nothings going to happen. Okay. All right, all right. Okay. All right, all right. What is your greatest present . My greatest britain is Thangam Debbonaire, mp for having the balls to talk about rule britannia and why it might be offensive to some people, which i think it is, because there are a lot of, people in there are a lot of, people in the commonwealth who fought in that war and think that that that war and i think that that song quite, offensive song could be quite, offensive to them. Okay go on. Mark. Go on. Mark. Well, mines probably the most least popular of the most the least popular of the lot. Actually going to go lot. Im actually going to go for jeremy good. Great, forjeremy hunt. Good. Great, because i i think in because, i mean, i think in presenting budget, his presenting the budget, his presentation great. Its presentation was great. Its obviously not really his budget. Its budget of the office its the budget of the office for budget responsibility, essentially, rather than the governments. But hes governments budget. But hes basically pretty good star in somebody movie. Good, somebody elses movie. Good, good couple of quips, good couple of jokes. Had a and is a very slick presenter. So he gets my vote for presentation , not my vote for presentation, not for substance. All right. Now can i just say, whilst i love you all those are the three worst. Have you ever had a median jack carson nominations ive ever had . Gonna pick none of them. Im gonna pick none of them. Im not picking any of it. Im not picking. Not even todays not picking. Not even todays greatest. Britains gb greatest. Britains at the gb news viewers. Right. Mainly news viewers. All right. Mainly for putting up with that. All right. Much right. So thank you very much everybody. Now right okay. Everybody. Now all right okay. So Union Jackass. So lets go to Union Jackass. Now i will pick one of these. Come on. Right. Jeremy hunt, its come on. Right. Jeremy hunt, wsfime come on. Right. Jeremy hunt, its time was mentioned on its time he was mentioned on this for allowing the this thing for allowing the overall tax burden to rise. Okay, good, is the high okay, good, mine is the High Court Enforcement officers for evicting a stage four cancer sufferer from her own home. Absolutely horrific. Quick video of this. I think maybe a week. Yeah. Are we going . His criminal. His criminal. Okay. Thank you for your concern. Im concerned for the lady in there, not for your ignorance. There, not for your ignorance. Its disgraceful. Okay yeah. I mean, imagine if they responded that way to a burglary. Go on, mark. And mine is for a collective, not for an individual. The pcs union, thats the main Civil Service union now balloting to go on strike. So they want 35 days annual leave. They want more time work. Even though more time off work. Even though their productivity been terrible. Union jack has johannas suggestion. The high court suggestion. The High Court Enforcement officers. Scandalous. All right. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for wonderful you everybody for a wonderful week. On monday at week. Ill be back on monday at 9 headliners 9 pm. Its headliners next. What a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello again. Good evening. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update. It should stay dry through this evening for many areas, but rain and showers will push up from the southwest to bring some showery outbreaks of for many this of rain. For many of us, this weekend, thats a result of weekend, thats as a result of this pressure system this low pressure system bringing these weather fronts into southwest this into the southwest through this evening. Bring some evening. So that will bring some showery of rain for showery outbreaks of rain for parts and cornwall parts of devon and cornwall through this evening. Elsewhere, though, should dry for though, it should be dry for much of the evening and through much of the evening and through much night. Having said much of the night. Having said that, will be quite that, but it will be quite cloudy will cloudy and breezy. That will limit just the far limit any frost to just the far northwest of scotland, but it will fairly chilly start to will be a fairly chilly start to the weekend, with that easterly breeze continuing. The. The wind breeze continuing. The. The wind will be quite strong, particularly over the high ground and northwestern areas throughout and further throughout saturday and further south. Well see cloud thicken through the afternoon with some drizzly outbreaks of rain to come around lunchtime across central southeastern areas. Central and southeastern areas. There will be some brighter weather through the afternoon, but that will allow some showers to those showers to break out. 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Earlier on breakfast at that. Breaking news in the past few moments that theresa may, the former pm and of course maidenhead mps to stand down after 27 years. Well, im learning it through you. Im so disappointed to hear this. This. Well, this is obviously a really significant youre watching and listening to gb news with me. Sam francis, the headlines at 11 00. Northern irelands first minister has apologised today to the families of alleged informers who were killed by the ira. And she says that she wholeheartedly is committed to healing the wounds of the past. Its after a major of the past. Its after a Major Investigation found its likely that more lives were lost than saved by a double agent during the