t.l.c. questions whether she has the gravitas to be elected. >> bret: karl rove had a quote recently. i'm not certain how it fits in american calculus and helps me see you in the oval office. yeah, i don't know how ronald reagan was seen in the oval office, having come from a career in television. hmm, karl. >> bret: do you see a connection to reagan? >> reagan was criticized for being an idealogue. for being too superficial, idealistic, too optimistic. a bit too independent. i see a comparison in maybe some of our record. but nobody can be compared to ronald reagan. >> bret: a better comparison for palin-white house run might be the campaign of the man she'd look to replace. senator barack obama was a relative unknown four years before he ran. he had less than two years experience in high office.