Man quite honestly, is it possible she is alive . Annie he was watching her and following her. Deeply creepy stuff. Criminal acts that hed recorded. Yes. Thats his favorite thing. Collecting women. My heart just sunk. How many other times has he done this . How many other women has he done this to . Narrator a young nurse vanishes in a mystery stained with evil. He brought us to the back. Man and we all looked down. We just gasped. Narrator the front range of colorado, the vast Grasslands East of the Rocky Mountains offers plenty of places to conceal the body of a 97 pound woman. This woman, Tina Sandoval. But the question that gets set for the next two decades. Where are you, tina . And then the searches begin. Yeah. Where are you . Brad goldschmidt yeah. And we searched, oh gosh, probably over 50 different locations. Narrator officially she was a missing person. Had been for more than 20 years. But the authorities, like then detective Brad Goldschmidt, couldnt accept that she was a runaway looking for a fresh start. Hed spent more hours than he could count searching Gravel Pits and Drain Ponds for missing tina. So poor tina was just a small little woman, and theres a lot of colorado. I mean, just this One Area here. Did you think were never going to get this . Oh, i thought we would never get her. Narrator they couldnt prove it, but it was the consensus of Law Enforcement that the young nurse was the victim of foul play. Her Sister Susan didnt disagree. It just wasnt fair. She would have been so good for the world. Narrator and she had an unshakable theory about who made her sister disappear. Evil. Hes just evil. Narrator did you think, i now have Hannibal Lecter here . Yes. This guy is by far the worst criminal ive ever investigated. And thats 21 years of Gang Investigations under my belt. Im certain he committed a felony a day for the majority of his adult life. And he got away with it constantly. Narrator the problem with the missing Tina Investigation was this. How could a prosecutor convince a jury she was murdered if you couldnt even prove Beyond A Reasonable Doubt that she was, in fact, dead . Take it off. What were the usual ingredients you were missing here . We did not have a victims body. We did not have any kind of a Confession Or Admission by a suspect. We didnt have a crime scene. We didnt have any physical evidence. Narrator carol, a Nurse And Coworker of tinas, spent weekends looking for her vanished friend only to be startled awake later with a Stephen King like vision. I would be like on a remote area and she was in a Shallow Grave in my dream. And she would sit up kind of Zombie Style and she was trying to tell me where she was buried. And i always wondered, is that really her telling me . Or is this just my way im coping with this . Narrator eventually there would be a grave, but it wasnt shallow and it wasnt out in the prairie. But theres so much to know before i tell you about that. There you go, big guy. Narrator go back to a time In America when kids would play outside on summer nights till the streetlights came on. In windsor, colorado, you might have met the tournais. There are a lot of them. Heres annie. Annie nine kids. Seven girls, two boys. And where were you in all of that . Im the youngest. Number nine. It was kind of like boot camp. As soon as you get to a certain age, heres how you do laundry. Heres how you clean. Narrator Dad Michael was an exmarine and a former city cop. Mom, mary ellen, worked at the Campus Bookstore in nearby greeley. Annies sister, older by 13 years, was tina. Was she something like an older aunt to you or something or as much as a sister . She was very much a sister to me. She cared for me. She played with me. She would play with us in our clubhouse. She would do Obstacle Courses with us in the backyard. Narrator wow. She was just always very attentive to us. Personality. Tell me what made her happy. What do you see her doing when shes smiling in your mind . Being with family made her very happy. She loved us kids a lot. Narrator tina was a little shy but a spirited competitor in high School Basketball and track. Finding suitable boyfriends was where she stumbled some, as Sister Susan recalls. Mom and dad did not approve of two of her young steadies. Yeah, she kind of found The Ones that needed help and she thought she could help them. Narrator but college gave her footing and studies in nursing gave her direction. Thats where she met a Guy Taking Classes to become a radiology technician. His name was John Sandoval. So what did your parents think of this john . I think my parents kind of liked him. He was a little older than tina. Narrator and just like that, tina was soon sharing an apartment in greeley, colorado with her new boyfriend, john. Kid Sister Annie, about nine at the time, thought it was all very exciting. He was quiet but sociable at the same time. He seemed really nice, well mannered, very polite to everybody. Complimentary of your sister . Annie oh, very much. Yeah. I really looked up to the relationship a lot. I thought they were a good fit. I thought it was a fairy tale. Narrator annie loved going over to tina and johns to play chinese checkers and mess about with their new dog cody. Tina had broken out of her strict mass on sunday catholic upbringing. What does your Childhood Mind Make of your sister and her boyfriend . I dont think any of my other siblings had lived with somebody before. So it was a whole new experience. And there was going to be a wedding. And there was going to be a wedding. And we were in the wedding. Narrator john and tina had found a chapel up in the rockies to exchange their vows. I was a Flower Girl along with my Sister Teresa and our sister kelly, whos our oldest. She was a bridesmaid. And it was just a nice little chapel, small ceremony with just family. It was really quick. Happy day . Happy day. Very, very beautiful. We took a huge Group Picture out in front of the chapel afterwards. Narrator john toasted his bride at the reception. Ive got the best woman a man could ever ask for. And our familys just getting bigger. And welcome to the family. Narrator tina opened presents. This is from annie. All right, its a book. Narrator and annie remembers tearing around the Reception Hall squealing with all her sisters. Its a time to be gleeful and happy and enjoy the time. Narrator Johns Cousin and best man, jessie, gave a little speech. I know theyre going to do well for Each Other. And thanks again for everybody making it. Narrator jessie, for some reason, set annies teeth on edge. Annie he was extremely quiet. He kind of made me nervous. I just had a feeling about him that i just couldnt put my finger on. You wondered what was going on or . Yeah. Yeah. He just didnt sit right with me. I kind of avoided him. Narrator and so after the toasts and happy tears, the new mr. And mrs. Were off to cancun for a mexican beach honeymoon. The snapshots show a happy couple. Annie was thrilled to get a souvenir. Cancun tshirts. And that was pretty cool, because wed never been out of the country or even flown on a plane. And heres tina going on a cool vacation. Narrator so a suntanned tina returned to her nursing studies. Happy forever after . Not exactly. Annie i didnt see it coming, didnt notice anything off kilter, and then suddenly we were moving tina out into a new apartment. Narrator Coming Up. Susan she wasnt very forthcoming in the beginning. I knew they were having problems and she had concerns, but she wasnt telling me. Me and my sister were really scared. 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And she hadnt felt that way for a while. Shed been treated like dirt. Narrator came a long, long way, right . Yeah. He called her kitten and just was constantly just like, youre so beautiful. Youre so beautiful. I cant believe im with you. Narrator he might have been an eloquent sweet talker, but john seemed to have trouble holding a job. He never did finish his Radiology Class and found a string of part time hourly jobs working in a Liquor Store, a Customer Care Call center. About two years into the marriage, tinas Sister Susan could sense that something was off. She was feeling like maybe John Wasnt who she thought he was. Narrator did you scratch around on that . Susan A Little Bit. She wasnt very forthcoming in the beginning. I knew they were having problems and she had concerns, but she wasnt telling me a lot of what she already knew at that point. Narrator tina, it turned out, was keeping a secret about her marriage, a dark one. And she wasnt ready yet to disclose the humiliating truth, not even to her sister. Nursing school, meanwhile, was going very well. She dove into the field and found her passion, caring for other people. Tina soared. One of tinas fellow nursing students was Carol Shervin. She was as scared to meet her first patient as tina was confident. She literally pushed me in the door. You can do it. Shes giving you the pep talk. Carol shervin she said you can do it and she physically pushed me into the patients room. I think when it came to nursing, she was a natural. In command, confident . Confident. Not bossy in any way, but just she knew what she was doing. Narrator but carol knew almost nothing about Tinas Life away from nursing school. The shy teenager had become the nose in the Book Student and didnt socialize with her classmates. Sister susan had married by then too and she and her husband ended up getting an apartment just down the street from john and tina. So we could easily walk back and forth and see Each Other. And i had my daughter at that time and she was a toddler. And my sister loved children. Narrator susan would take her little girl to see Aunt Tina for coffees that became heart to hearts. Susan confided that she was unhappy in her marriage just as tina was restless in hers. And so she was actually really encouraging me to get out of my marriage. And so she really wanted to help me. And then she kind of made the leap before i did and started filing the Divorce Paperwork and moving out into her own place. Narrator by Summers End 1995, tina and john were done. When it cracked, what was the thing . I think it had been going on for quite some time before i knew about it. From what she told me later, she was confronting him about things that she was finding out about him. Hes not a good person. Narrator Kid Sister annie was clueless about why tina and john, her almost prince charming, were splitting up. But there she was helping to lug boxes from the old place to the new apartment. And john was there. He helped as well. And i asked him. I said, well, why is tina moving out . Whats going on . And he said, oh, dont worry about it. We just need A Little Bit of space. Dont worry. Well be back together soon. Did you think that was likely or . I thought it was, because i just, i admired the relationship. I idolized it. I believed him. You wanted that life for you. Yeah. Narrator but John Sandoval soon plummeted from Annies List of admired men because of something that happened just after theyd finished getting tina moved. He took Me And My Sister back to town. And he got us some Ice Cream cones and took us to the lake. And then he started driving down the Boat Dock into the lake. The Boat Launch . The ramp . Annie yes. In the vehicle . Yes. And Me And My Sister were really scared. We didnt know what he was. Doing it as a goof or . It was a different side of him id never seen. He seemed to be getting joy out of our terror. And the waters Coming Up over the hubcaps . Yeah. And we just didnt know what was going to happen. And then he stopped and backed up and took us home. And that was it. Did he become a category of a different person after that to you . Yeah. Yeah. Narrator john you idolized wasnt necessarily the same guy. Yeah. He scared us. Narrator scary and John Sandoval were just getting up to speed. Coming up. Carol shervin my jaw drops and im like, what . Narrator a separation and an obsession. Carol shervin she would look out over her balcony. She said his car would be there for hours. His car. Carol shervin his car. Theyre separated, but hes checking her out. Hes stalking her. Right. Susan he was letting her know that he was watching her and following her. Narrator when dateline continues. Oooh this is our night shingles doesnt care. But shingrix protects. Only shingrix is proven over 90 effective. 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Shes in the back, making sure everybody else gets seen, i think. Does that speak to shy tina that we hear about . I dont even know if its a shyness. Not stepping into the spotlight. But shes definitely going to put everyone else in the spotlight before she takes it. Narrator but the upcoming summer was tinas time to step out into the lights for maybe the first time in her life. The shy young woman was emerging from her cocoon. Her colleague Carol Shervin noticed. I think she finally started to become age appropriate, to be honest. I mean, she just seemed like she was so much happier, more free. Narrator and carol quickly regarded tina as the real deal when it came to nursing. How about her way with patients and the docs . You know, tina was the best. I mean, if there was a Call Light going off, shes the first to pop up and go get it. And her patients liked her. Everyone liked tina. She was fantastic. Narrator it had been a momentous year for tina. Shed gotten her degree, left her marriage, and now had successfully kicked off her career in nursing. She was a 23yearold woman about to be divorced and living alone in a cool apartment that was all hers. I think it was almost just like a huge weight had come off her shoulder. She seemed to smile more, i think, and just open up kind of like a butterfly. Narrator old tina rarely socialized with her classmates. But with carols encouragement, she now stepped out and let down her hair. Carol shervin she finally wanted to go have fun and join her friends. And it was so nice to see her open up and tell more about her life. And probably the most profound thing that happened the night we went out, she came to my apartment to get ready. While she was at my house, i said, tell me more about john. And she said, well, john has a disease. Disease . I said that too. Well, what do you mean . And she said, well, he has voyeurism. And i didnt know what that meant at the time. I said, well, whats that . And she said, well, hell see a pretty girl at the Grocery Store and Hell Kind of feel compelled to just follow her home and he might watch her for two or three days. And she said it just super calm. As though this is a normal kind of story to tell. And my jaw drops and im like, what . Thats like a stalker. She said, no, no, no. You dont understand. Its an illness. He cant help it. A disease of stalking . In nursing school, we learn about all the personality disorders. I dont ever remember learning that it was any kind of an illness. My husband is a guy who follows women around. Right. Narrator carol let the stunning Remarks Slide as she and tina went to a club that night and their friendship was born. The topic of her about to be exs so called disease came up again. I said, so do you think that john ever watches you . And she said, yeah. Same thing. Real calm about it. And i said, you know, she said she would look out over her balcony. She said his car would be there for hours, just watching. His car. Carol shervin his car. Theyre separated, but hes checking her out. Hes stalking her. Right. Did that creep her out . You know, she said it matter of factly. She didnt seem afraid at the time. Narrator once shed made the decision to leave, tina told the same stories to her Sister Susan. Tina finally confided that she had married a Peeping Tom. Hed leave their bed in the middle of the night, she said, to crawl backyards and sometimes bring back trophies, womens underwear. But tina also confided something else. She was moving on from john, drawing closer to old friends, including Johns Cousin, jessie, the silent best man at their wedding. Jessie in particular, the cousin, did he become more of a date . Was he an intimate friend of hers, do you think . You know, i never knew for sure. I knew they were talking, that he would come over to her apartment sometimes. Because you wonder if it could kindle jealousy. Right, right. But she was also talking to other people. Like my older sisters friend, kevin, was another person that she was talking to who would also come and check on her and they would sometimes go out and do things together. So definitely not settling in on anybody in particular. And he was letting her know that he was watching her and following her. He even had jumped onto the deck of her apartment from the staircase that led up to her front door and was watching her in there and told her everything he saw. Narrator so where was john as this summer rolled on . He was working at a local call center. Hed rented a house in Downtown Greeley and sublet the basement to his Aunt Gabby. But he was telling friends and family that he was leaving greeley, getting out of dodge for a while. But first there was some final Divorce Business to settle with tina. Coming up. Susan she said, well, im working the Night Shift Tonight, and im going to be meeting john in the morning. And i told her i was really concerned. Narrator Tinas Sister had good reason to be worried. My mom said we need to go to the Police Station. Keith olson John Sandovals connection to this Case Set off the alarms. I mean, we went into full investigation immediately. Narrator when dateline continues. Introducing New Advil targeted relief. The only topical Pain Reliever with 4 powerful painfighting ingredients that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source. For up to 8 hours of powerful relief. New advil targeted relief. Upset Stomach Iberogast Indigestion Iberogast Bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. Six digestive symptoms. The power of nature. Iberogast. With fatigue and lightheadedness, i knew something was wrong. Then i saw my doctor and found out i have afib, and that means theres about a 5 times greater risk of stroke. 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I think that was one of those crazy busy nights, for me at least, that we talked about. Because i wasnt part of the conversation that i know she had with some of the other nurses. Narrator the conversation. Tina was distracted that night because, as she told her fellow nurses, when she got off shift in the morning, she was going to have a big conversation with john at his house about bringing the divorce to a close. Final money issues, final legal paperwork. She was apprehensive that night. She was. She had told a couple of the other nurses that she was nervous about meeting with john. And i know one of them said, i think you should go to a public place if youre nervous about meeting with him. Narrator Carol Ran Into tina that morning at the end of her shift, a Moment Shell never forget. I think once somebody dies or disappears, you always remember your last time that you saw them. What is yours . So she was theres a long corridor that we worked on, and whichever Nurse It that was next to me had said, well, good luck. And she said thank you. Whatever. And then she turned and in my mind, its kind of almost like a slow motion turn. She always had this beautiful Blonde Ponytail and her ponytail followed her around. And she walked out the door. Last living memory. Mmhmm. Narrator earlier, tina had called her Sister Susan about that meeting with john. How did she frame it . What was going to happen . She said, well, im working the Night Shift Tonight and im going to be meeting john in the morning. And i told her i was really concerned because of everything that hed been doing about following her and acting up with the other women again. I just was really worried. And i did ask her if she could take someone. She asked me to go and i couldnt. Narrator Susan Couldnt shake her own growing fears about the meeting. And since she couldnt be there, she set up a precautionary plan. Whatd you tell her . I told her she needed to call me when she was done. When i got off work around the lunch hour, i wanted to hear from her and know that she was ok. Narrator and did she understand why you were saying that . Yes. Yeah. And she promised me she would. So its call me at noon when this is over. Right. Narrator and the phone doesnt ring. Right. Narrator susan became more apprehensive as the afternoon dragged on and still nothing heard from tina. When do you get worried . I was pretty worried by the time i was done with my first appointment and i still hadnt heard from her. After the second appointment, i was just screaming inside, like i need to just do something. Narrator and so listening to that urgent voice, she called her mother and asked that she drive by both tinas and johns homes to see if their cars were there. They werent. Tinas mother did stop at johns place, which he was sharing with his Aunt Gabby. The aunt said she didnt know where john or tina had gone. But before leaving, Tinas Mom spotted something that set off alarm bells. She saw Tinas Jacket on the kitchen chair. And she said, here, take the jacket. And my mom had just bought that jacket for tina maybe two weeks before. So why would she be separated from her jacket . That made no sense. Susan exactly. Narrator susan and her mother knew the pieces just werent adding up. Disappearing was not like their tina. And so my mom said we need to go to the Police Station. Narrator a shaken Mother And Daughter trooped down to the greeley Police Department and were introduced to two figures, detectives Keith Olson and later Brad Goldschmidt, Two Cops who would become part of their Family History over the next 20 years. How do you guys find out something has happened to a woman named tina . Tinas mother and her sister came into the Police Department and they contacted the Desk Officer and reported that their daughters missing and they believed something may have happened to her. And they named their daughters estranged husband as John Sandoval. And when you heard that name . Well, we had a lengthy history of John Sandoval. We knew that he was a pervert. Narrator Greeley Cops knew sandoval had Run Ins with the Law Dating back to the 1980s, including convictions for harassment and burglary. So they werent about to wait to see if tina turned up. John Sandovals Connection to this Case Set off the alarms. I mean, we went into full investigation immediately. Yep. Narrator where was sandoval at this very moment . Where was his vehicle . And where oh where was tina . Coming up. It says, brad, you got to come over here and see this. Narrator John Sandovals car with disturbing evidence inside. The hunt is on. And i said, step aside. Were coming in. We burst into the bedroom and the windows open and the drapes are flapping. So john bailed out the window. Narrator when dateline continues. [coughs] when caroline has a cough, she takes robitussin. 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Tinas family had reported her missing. Greeley, colorado detectives were looking for her estranged husband, John Sandoval. And he is a guy known to authorities, as they say. Yes, for many years. I think at that time, id probably been at greeley Police Department for 15 years and id been dealing with him from the first year i started there. Narrator Detective Keith Olson says sandoval was regarded as greeleys usual suspect when it came to Peeping Tom complaints. But was he capable of abduction or even murder . That was the question on the detectives minds as they went out looking for him at 10 00 that night. Knocked on the door and it was answered by johns aunt, aunt gabriella. And she let us into The House then asked us to leave. So we left. She said that she hadnt seen john since like 6 30 that evening. Narrator so it was off to tinas for a check of the Apartment Shed moved into after leaving john. What do you find . Anything in disarray . Well, all the evidence is matching what we know. She got off of work to go meet with john on a prescheduled appointment. So shes changed out of her work clothes, i guess. Her nursing uniform, her Nurses Blouse with the name tag, Id Tag still attached is lying on the ground with the white uniform pants. But no drawers are open, no Jewelry Boxes messed with, nothing like that. Correct. Correct. So this tells you whatever happened didnt really happen here other than she came home. Yeah. She came home, quickly changed, and went to meet with john. Narrator a critical question early on was wheres Tinas Car . Its not at her house. Its not at his house. And so were missing her car. But reasoning is someone who is going to commit a crime such as a homicide or abduction, the Thought Process is hes not going to share this information with anyone. So the cars got to be within walking distance. Her car. Hes ditched it somewhere. Absolutely. We started checking the neighborhoods for likely spots, Parking Lots of apartment complexes. And we found her car right away. Narrator it had been abandoned by an apartment parking lot. Through the glass inspection, you seen anything . Yeah. Her wallet was inside the car, which was important to us. Narrator not good at all. Not good. Narrator it was well after midnight and still no sign of tina. Back at police headquarters, detective Brad Goldschmidt was at his desk doing a little research on John Sandoval. And i happen to come across a report that had been made about four weeks earlier than this date were on. And a woman had come home and knew John Sandoval, just knew him through a roommate that used to live with her. Narrator the detective Discovered John had recently been busted for trespassing in a former coworkers townhouse. The citation mentioned a pair of mens shoes left outside the slider door. And she walks up into her bedroom and who does she see hiding in her closet is a shoeless John Sandoval. And she confronts him. What the hell are you doing here . And he said, oh, well, i came to see so and so who used to live here. Well, you know that she doesnt live here anymore. Get the hell out of my house. Narrator sometimes you get lucky even with mistakes. The officer who whod taken the Offense Report had written it up as a misdemeanor. He was incorrect. Sandoval had allegedly committed a Felony Crime and it carried serious prison time upon conviction. Now goldschmidt could Arrest Sandoval for that outstanding crime, if only he could find him. The cops decided to stake out a Surveillance Officer in an unmarked car outside sandovals home. Bingo. At 4 45 am, Officer Joy Emby radioed in. And she goes, the car just pulled up. Male subject just got out and hes walking into The House carrying a white bag. So Clay Buckingham and i jump in our cars and we fly out to johns house. It took us four minutes to get there. I knock on the door and Aunt Gabby comes to the door. And i said, hey, i know john just got here. I need to talk to him right now. She goes, well, hes in the shower. And i was like, oh my god, hes in the shower already. There goes all your Trace Evidence maybe, [inaudible] suspect for you. Any Trace Evidence that he had on him is being washed down the drain right now. And i go, ok. And then clay had walked over to Johns Car and he shined his flashlight in the car. And he says, brad, you got to come over here and see this. Narrator inside the hatchback they could see a wet shovel, a pail, some rope, and a flashlight attached to a lanyard. Brad goldschmidt so i run back to The House. I pound on the door again. Aunt gabby comes to the door. And i said, hey, i need to talk to john right now. Get him out of the shower. She walks back. The house is dark. Theres only a Dim Light On in the kitchen. And im standing by the Back Door and i see a figure that i assumed to be a man walk past gabby into the different part of The House. She comes back to the door and she says, im sorry, i made a mistake. Johns not here after all. Hes not there. Yeah. She lied to me. Narrator Law Enforcement careers are sometimes made and lost in fleeting moments of decision. This was one for detective Brad Goldschmidt. Your dashboard is warning you, ive got to get a Search Warrant. Ive got to get a Search Warrant. I want to get in, but i need a warrant. Im weighing all this stuff in my head and im thinking, heres what i know. Tina was last seen there. John was gone. He came back in the middle of the night. Theres a wet shovel in his car. Tina is either dead or in really bad trouble. And if i dont go in and collect some evidence now that may lead us to her, if shes still alive, shes going to be dead soon. So i made the decision that were going in The House. And i grabbed Clay Buckingham and another officer who had arrived on scene. Narrator that predawn decision would change the course of the investigation. And i said, step aside, gabby. Were coming in. And shes trying to stop me and i pushed my way in. I get inside. I announce. John sandoval, greeley police. I need to talk to you right now. Were coming in. And as i get back to the hallway, i hear this scraping. It sounded like kicking or scraping on a wall. So we jump in. We burst into the bedroom and the window is open and the drapes are flapping. So john bailed out the window. Hes out the window. Brad goldschmidt hes out the window. So the three of us go running outside. Fortunately, the officer who had been surveilling The House positioned herself in the part of The House that we werent going to be in when we made our entry. And we run outside and shes got John Sandoval on his knees at gunpoint. Partially clothed. Hes wearing late october. Late october. Its like 20 degrees outside. Hes wearing a tshirt and blue jeans. Narrator and yet what are you going to charge him with . Hes going to stand up and say, fellas, whats this all about, right . We cuff him outside, walk him into The House. And Clay Buckingham and i look at Each Other and clay is like, what are we going to charge him with, brad . Narrator remember, Detective Goldschmidt had done some research a few hours before and come upon that police officers charging error. And now he would play that card. Well, clay didnt know about what i had been doing. He was out searching for vehicles and so forth. And i said trespass. You had that unserved warrant in your back pocket, huh . Brad goldschmidt i had that unserved charge in my back pocket. And clay had no idea. Well, trespass, ok, whatever. So i just said trespass. Youre under arrest for trespass. And he had no idea what i was talking about either. So i got him socks, got him a pair of shoes. We took them down to the Police Department on the trespass charge. 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Id like to know why im here and whether i need to call my lawyer. Officer i promise you theyll let you know as soon as they can. I dont know enough about that kind of stuff to tell you anything. Ok . Narrator John Sandoval was down at the greeley Police Station after being arrested on a trespassing charge. But cops really wanted to talk to him about his missing wife, tina. Officer being held right now for investigation of a missing person. Your estranged wife. And why would i know where shes at . Narrator he was having none of it, claiming hed injured himself when he jumped out the window to avoid arrest. [inaudible] see a doctor. When is that going to happen . Officer they dont tell me anything, ok . And he wasnt a cooperative witness during this interview, right . [laughs] well, john is never a cooperative witness. John always says, im not talking to you. I got nothing to say. He knows the drill. What am a here for . What am i here for . What am a here for . Well, then im not going to cooperate either. The hell is wrong with you . You arrest me yeah, youre under arrest, all right . Ok. You got me tied up. What . Why . Why . John, you know why, ok . I dont know why. Why would i [bleep] be asking you why if i knew why . This facility has a phone. Id like to call a lawyer. Narrator detectives kept sandoval in jail on that trespassing charge, but he lawyered up. Now Olson And Goldschmidt were left on their own to pose the question, where was tina . Brad goldschmidt you still Cant Discount that she has a perverted husband and maybe she just left. Initially those are thoughts you have to consider. Baja, here i come. Im out of town. Yeah, im out of town. Its hard to disprove that she didnt do that. Its hard to disprove. But we sent people down to the bus stop. Did you see this woman the other day . Nope, didnt see her. Check airline records. Could she have bought a Plane Ticket and gone one way somewhere . Then as the days went on, the theory that she may have just disappeared became less likely. Narrator of course they considered other possible suspects, like sandovals cousin, jessie, best man at the wedding. The guy who gave Tinas Sister the creeps. Tina was seeing jessie after her split with john. And there was another guy at the medical center who showed an interest in her. We vetted the boyfriends. We only found the two, jessie and the person she worked with. Alibied them. They didnt know anything about what she had planned. Could it have been the drifter who walked up from the Bus Station . Brad goldschmidt possible. You dont want to exclude any alternative suspects. But when youre looking for any alternative suspects and all the evidence goes right back to john, how do you discount that . If you hear hoofbeats, dont think zebras. Right. Right. Narrator go for the obvious. Yep, yep. Narrator and the evidence was piling up on sandoval. When investigators searched his house along with his wet sweated out clothes. We find three Credit Cards belonging to Tina Sandoval in johns house. The ones missing presumably from the wallet. Presumably The Ones missing from the wallet. Yep. Two of them were in the bathroom with john and one was in the bedroom that he ran out the window. So yeah. Narrator and in sandovals car, something they couldnt explain. Along with that bucket, the wet shovel, and the flashlight on a lanyard, they found something odd. Keith olson a Carpenters Level, 48 inch Carpenters Level, that we never understood at that time. Why does he have this Carpenters Level . Narrator despite all their evidence, the Weld County da told detectives that it wasnt enough. We felt we had a lot of evidence. Circumstantial, but a lot of damning evidence against john. But our District Attorney at the time said, you dont have a body. You dont have a crime scene. You dont have statements. You dont have a confession. So if you guys dont come up with a body, were not going to do anything with this case. Narrator now it seemed everyone in greeley was united in one purpose. Finding tina. Her Sister Susan remembers. Everyone from this area was really impacted by what happened to her. It was really scary. Its that type of thing that you hear on national news, but its like no, not here. Narrator and so together with the tight knit community, throngs of people began looking for missing tina. We started searching for her. Just we didnt know where to go. But we just started searching. Like you just start driving around in the country and looking and calling her name out. Up one road and down another . Yeah, just calling her name, calling her name, and just going all over. My brotherinlaw had a truck that had a spotlight and just all night long just looking wherever we could think of. In ditches and side of the road. Hoping you dont find anything, but on the other hand. Susan yeah. Yeah. Narrator and that went on for how long . The searches went on for a long time. Narrator tinas coworkers, like Carol Shervin, were out on those searches too. I think i went on at least three or four. I dont know how many weeks or however long it went on. I used to have nightmares that whole time. I cant even imagine how the family dealt with this. Narrator detective Brad Goldschmidt remembers driving the county Roads Day after day with tinas dad, Mike Tournai beside him, an excop himself. I mean, i spent hours with Mike Tournai in my car. He and i drive around in the county. How did her dad take it . I mean, there you are. No, and hes a big, strong, proud man. And he was in my car crying on many occasions. And you two were looking for the remains of his daughter. Its hard to see. Yeah. Hard to see. Hard for him to deal with. And Theres Nothing i could have done to make it better. Narrator detectives followed every tip, every lead, went down every rabbit hole, like this reservoir where sandoval used to take target practice. Brad goldschmidt so we searched this area, among many other places. And were running out of tips and leads. And i really did feel like we were never going to find Tina Sandoval. And i was so afraid that without finding Tina Sandoval, nobody would ever take this case on. No body, no case. The classic wisdom. Right. No body, no case. And after spending so much Time Out in big Weld County and places around greeley. I mean, we dug up more places than you can shake a stick at and no body. Narrator back at the hospital where tina worked, they kept hope alive as long as they could. We had a book. And if you had an x that day you worked, and i think it was two or three months before finally someone said, i guess we should take her name off the book. Narrator five months passed. John sandoval was saying nothing about tina, but he was still facing that criminal trespass charge. And john just pled guilty to it. I think he just wanted to get out of dodge, out of greeley, even if its a few years in prison. Narrator the judge sentenced sandoval to six years. Tinas case went ice cold. But Detectives Goldschmidt and olson never gave up and couldnt let go. Murder case is a roller coaster ride. There are so many highs and so many lows. And the highs can be really high and the lows can be really low. Narrator you dont leave it at the office. No. And i worked a lot of Murder Cases through the beginning till their end. And you just cannot do that without getting emotionally involved with the family and suffer some of what theyre suffering. Youll never suffer everything theyre suffering, but you suffer with them. Narrator the entire city of greeley seemed to feel tinas loss. What did you learn about your hometown . Theres a lot of good people. We had a lot of people come help us search. They took care of my family. They took care of my parents when we were kind of all falling apart. Narrator the truth was stark. Tina wasnt just missing. No one was looking for a better alternative by that point. I think there was a few that of course youre hoping that you can just be mad at her and that she just ran away. But they knew. Narrator as for John Sandoval, well, he was a model prisoner, out on parole in just over four years and now living in Las Vegas. A man with a lengthy history of Peeping And Trespassing had relocated himself to perhaps the most carnal city In America. Coming up. Man both of them came to me and said, look, we want to entrust this case over to you. Its quite the honor for me. Narrator the case gets a new team with a bold new plan. You guys rolled the dice here. We really did. Youre jumping off the high Diving Board together. Thats right. Narrator and later, another woman with a harrowing story. 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Dennis Murphy Voiceover sthe missing sister,y missing daughter was a hole in their universe that the Tournai Family simply couldnt repair. We felt a little broken. Theres a little sadness. You feel a little Guilt And Joy because that Person Isnt there to experience it with you. It really changed us. My parents were just constantly trying to resolve this, trying to find her. Dennis Murphy Voiceover for years, susan says her parents spent weekends driving the prairie, searching for any sign of their lost daughter, often with their youngest girls in tow. Thats their Childhood Memory is looking for their missing sister. Looking for their missing sister, and taking care of themselves, because my parents were just overwhelmed with the situation. Dennis Murphy Voiceover in 2002, seven years after her disappearance, Tinas Family had her declared legally dead. It didnt give us the closure that we needed to have. I feel like without actually knowing what happened to her what happened to her, and where is she. Yeah, exactly. Two questions you couldnt get answers to. Mmhmm. Yeah. Tinas friends and family searched these Caddy Roads for years all in vain. The investigation continued, and the police still had their Prime Suspect. But without a body, the District Attorney ruled that the circumstantial case simply wasnt juryready. Still, greeleys detectives wouldnt let go. For them, Tinas Disappearance had always felt like a homicide, even though their Prime Suspect had left colorado for Las Vegas. With a new chapter of his life. But we always knew where he was. Oh, you had eyes on him . We never forgot him. Never forgot about him . Never. Dennis Murphy Voiceover always wanted to nail him for tinas murder. Then in 2009, opportunity arrived. A new man was running for District Attorney. Keith and i met with him during his campaign for da. He said, would you consider prosecuting this case . And he said . He said he said he will. I will certainly give you your due time to present it. Dennis Murphy Voiceover he was elected. Now Olson And Goldschmidt, with their growing responsibilities in the pd, needed to hand their old case files off to a fresh detective. They needed someone who could build a Murder Case without a body that was strong enough for the new da to prosecute. So i take Mike Prill, who is a Gang Unit detective, i take him out of the Gang Unit. Why him, brad . My attention to detail pales in comparison to Mike Prill. He is just way up here when it comes to that. Dennis Murphy Voiceover enter desert stormdeployed us Army Vet Detective Mike Prill. Both of them came to me and said, look, we want to entrust this case over to you. This was something they had lived since 95 up to 2009. So it was quite the honor for me. Whats the Order Of Battle . How do you start to dive into it . The best way to begin is just to organize it, make sure that each piece of evidence collected is still in evidence. Was it . It had been a long time. It was. Dennis Murphy Voiceover and as he sorted through each file, in boxes upon boxes, his heart sank a little. The case had all the problems that made the previous da cautious. There was no body. There was no crime scene. There was no witnesses. There was no confession. And the cynical maxim in your business is, no body, no crime. Sometimes, right. I mean, thats Dennis Murphy thats a tough hill to climb. Thats what stalls these investigations at times. When theres no body, quite honestly, is it possible she is alive, and shes living somewhere else . Dennis Murphy Voiceover he teamed with thenassistant prosecutor Michael Rourke. Task Number One prove that tina was dead. Weve got to be able to show a jury that its not her just simply running away from a Domestic Violence relationship, and running off to the middle of montana, and hiding out in the woods. As the investigation progressed over that year in 2009, it became irrefutable. There was no renewal on her drivers license, no additional taxes filed. Dennis Murphy Voiceover no activity on her Credit Cards or Bank Account since october 1995. Every year that goes by, every month that goes by is a benefit to us, because we can show to the jury any person, any reasonable Person Cant stay off the Radar Screen that long. So you really couldnt prosecute the Case Given what you had in, say, in 1996, the year after shes gone . Oh, no. I think that we had in 2009 and 2010 the benefit of time. Dennis Murphy Voiceover still, they had to convince the da to pursue a Murder Charge without a victims body. The Das Office was aggressive, and they made the ultimate decision to go forward, knowing so you got your green light. That was it. From the da. Dennis Murphy Voiceover next, they had to make their case to a judge to get an Arrest Warrant for John Sandoval. The Detectives Team drafted a 9page document, detailing the anxious last hours of Tinas Life, finding her jacket at his place, the wet shovel in his car, him diving out the window, eluding The Cops. And im thinking of that brilliant affidavit that you guys pulled together, which reads like a crime thriller. Sure. We wanted this to be a very factual reading of exactly what we believed happened. When you get done, you think we know John Sandoval committed this homicide. Dennis Murphy Voiceover then again, the judge might read the words missing person in the affidavit and decide there was, in fact, no murder, no crime at all. You guys rolled the dice here. We really did. Dennis Murphy Voiceover Mike Prill remembers waiting as the judge read through the document. So now i have that grueling experience of sitting in a hallway, just drumming my fingers, wondering what hes thinking. He stepped out at one point and asked me one question. And that was why did the Das Office reject this years before . I think his fear by asking that question was has some other judge looked at this, rejected it, and now you brought it to me . Are you a judgeshopping here . Are we judgeshopping . Good question. What did you say . Well, i reassured him that we had never presented this case ever to the Das Office. When Detective Prill answered that question, the judge immediately got out his pen, signed the Arrest Warrant. So all three of you, the detective, judge, and you, youre jumping off the high Diving Board together. Thats right. Dennis Murphy Voiceover more than a decade after Tinas Disappearance, there was finally a breakthrough in the case. 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Did sandoval out in Las Vegas know the heat was on him . No, no. Dennis Murphy Voiceover except that Mike Prill would not be The One to make the arrest. That honor would fall to Keith Olson and Brad Goldschmidt, the original detectives on the case. I was in charge of the detective bureau, and i just said, hey, keith and i are going to vegas to get him. No questions about it . Yeah, i mean, he said ok, fine. The sergeant on the Las Vegas metro Police Department is a guy that used to work with us. We told steve were coming out to arrest John Sandoval. And he says great. Ill get a team together for you guys. Dennis Murphy Voiceover the local nbc affiliate, ksnvtv, recorded the Moment Police snapped the cuffs on John Sandoval. Want to talk about what happened to your wife 14 years ago . Can you get her away from me . John standing there like this up against the car. And i walk up to him on his right, and he looks over at me, and he does a double take. And then he immediately goes like this. [laughs] like if i cant see you, you cant see me, right . So i walk up to john, and i said, hey, john. Remember us . He goes, oh, no. I said, well, Brad Goldschmidt, Keith Olson, greeley pd. Youre under arrest for first Degree Murder of christine sandoval. Did you think youd ever say those words . I didnt think i was ever going to be able to say those words. Dennis Murphy Voiceover tinas little Sister Annie got the news from her parents. I was happy because i thought people had forgotten, and i didnt know if we would ever get justice for tina. Dennis Murphy Voiceover now it was back to work for Detective Prill. I realized, as i often do, once an arrest is made, the investigation really begins anew. Dennis Murphy Voiceover as luck would have it, prill quickly learned that John Sandoval was making calls on the Jailhouse Phone as he awaited extradition to colorado. Who is he talking to . Anyone interesting . Yes, a guy named max mata. Who is he . At the time, i had no idea. Dennis Murphy Voiceover it turned out max, a Softball And Bbq buddy, had befriended John Years earlier. So prill flew out to meet the man who said john liked to talk about his missing Wife Tina. Max said that in his conversations with john, john related that his wife had run out on him, left him for a wild life, joined a biker gang, fell into drugs, was running amok across the country. She left me, but shes still alive. Shes out there. Its always been that theory that perhaps tina did run off, but its not jiving with what i believe. So a Search Warrant was extremely important to this investigation, to get into his house and get whatever evidence that may be in the home proving tina was alive if thats true. Dennis Murphy Voiceover and he did just that. Once inside johns house, he saw it, an eerie shrine of sorts to tina. Two different pictures of tina in a little black dress. He had both of those hanging on his wall. And so i wanted that type of stuff collected, and we did. We photographed it, collected the photos. Dennis Murphy Voiceover what he didnt find was any proof that tina was still alive no recent photos or letters from that long Road Trip john claimed she was on. But mike did uncover something else. I also found well over 100 Vhs Tapes and another 70 or so mini Vhs Tapes. Dennis Murphy Voiceover John Sandoval, it seemed, had been a busy Amateur Videographer during his years in vegas, putting pictures to a stalking and Peeping Mo he practiced so well. Everything old was new again, huh . He was a drunk in a Liquor Store for those many years he lived out there. Dennis Murphy Voiceover prill found the Homemade Spycam videos disgusting. Hundreds if not thousands of hours that i would end up spending, reviewing shooting up the skirts of thousands of women all Up And Down the Las Vegas strip from 2000 to 2009. Dennis Murphy Voiceover one of those tapes showed a Perverts View of new years 2007 on The Strip disembodied legs, high heels, and short skirts. Inside a casino, a tipsy woman is recorded stumbling and falling on the way to her room. Weve altered her voice to protect her identity. I need to go home. Dennis Murphy Voiceover she doesnt know shes being followed by a guy with a bag cam. Are you ok . Have a good night. Here we go, party people. She didnt latch the door. The lights are off in the room. Now hes taken the camera out. Its in his hand. He creeps into this Dark Room with the Infrared Light activated on his camcorder, proves that theres four women in this room, two girls in each bed. Dennis Murphy Voiceover concealed in the darkness of the Hotel Room, he rolls tape for 17 minutes. Films all of them, and then selects his blonde thats nearest the door, slowly removes the sheets and blankets from her as she sleeps. Dennis Murphy Voiceover then he sexually assaults the sleeping woman. Neither the victim nor any of the other women in that Hotel Room stir. And Theres Something else the camera caught that night a glimpse of the alleged assailants face. According to the detective, there is no doubt it was none other than John Sandoval. Because none of the women ever reported the incident, sandoval has never been charged with anything relating to the video. Take a guess. How many other victims do you think there were . Hundreds, hundreds. Someone like john doesnt do this just once and never again. I mean, hes demonstrating his depravity while hes free and not in custody for murder. Dennis Murphy Voiceover that didnt mean all his alleged victims had stayed quiet over the years. Some had come forward only to have their stories forgotten. But Mike Prill knows how to dig into the past. Coming up i got into my car, and he followed me. Dennis Murphy Voiceover another terrifying encounter with John Sandoval. And my heart just sunk. I just knew he had finally done something really bad. Dennis Murphy Voiceover when dateline continues. Lets say youre deep in a show or a game or the game. On a train, at home, at work. Okay, maybe not at work. Point is at xfinity. Were constantly engineering new ways to get the entertainment you love to you faster and easier than ever. Thats what i do. Is that Love Island . behind every Splenda Product is a mission. Helping millions of people reduce sugar from their diets. Now try a sweetener grown by u. S. Farmers. Introducing zerocalorie Splenda Stevia. At Splenda Stevia farms, our plants are sweetened by sunshine. Experience how great Splenda Stevia can be. Grown on our farm, enjoyed at your table. enjoyed at your table. The tapes Detective Prill found in sandovals vegas home were deeply disturbing, but they werent going to help him build a Murder Case. So he started looking deeper into sandovals past pre1995. He didnt have to go very far before discovering the case of lori bucklin. I noticed that there was a man in a car parked in the lines of cars. Dennis Murphy Voiceover in 1992, three years before tina vanished, lori was working at a State Farm Office in nearby evans, colorado. She says a strange man started showing up on a regular basis in the employee lot. I got into my car, and went out the exit, and he followed me. There would be times that i would try to drive quickly to my house, get in the garage, shut the door, not knowing if he had found my house. Dennis Murphy Voiceover State Farm quickly learned his name John Sandoval. At that point, he was newly married to tina, yet here he was, cruising a parking lot, looking at another woman. State farm ordered him to stay away. He didnt. I saw john up on this overpass. He was parked there. He was holding something, i assumed binoculars, looking this way. Dennis Murphy Voiceover another time, she said, he followed as she drove to a party. I didnt know if he just wanted to shoot me, or take me, kidnap me, what. Dennis Murphy Voiceover for three years it went on, sandoval terrorizing lori bucklin. At one point, he was arrested and pleaded no contest to misdemeanor harassment. To this day, she says, she doesnt know why he singled her out. Nobody really listened. They did listen. But i didnt think they responded like they should. I guess you cant put somebody in jail just because theyre a creep. Dennis Murphy Voiceover The Last Time she spotted sandoval was july 1995. He was back cruising State Farms parking lot. He came down this row and drove by me, but i was pretty scared. Dennis Murphy Voiceover she reported it again. When police questioned him, sandoval said hed had a moment of weakness caused by an impending divorce. Three months later, his Wife Tina disappeared. And my heart just sunk. I just knew he had finally done something really bad. I just felt like i had been telling people for so long that he was the devil. Dennis Murphy Voiceover and as The Cops saw it, he had been for many years. Mike prill eventually compiled a 33page Document of sandovals runins with the police, including all the complaints and accusations made against him over a period of nearly 30 years. The many women that i talked to that were his victims of peeping and stalking, the majority of the women had an instinctual Bell Ringing in their head that there was something wrong with john, but so many of the women were afraid to act on it. Dennis Murphy Voiceover One Story in particular seemed to foreshadow tinas fate. Back in the 1980s, a woman filed a complaint against John Sandoval. It was an exgirlfriend of his, or at least one that had finally said enough with you. Dennis Murphy Voiceover a decade before tina disappeared, the woman described what happened when she tried to break up with sandoval. He kidnapped her at knifepoint, drug her down to her car, threatening to take her into the county and kill her. She broke free, scattered her Purse Contents across the ground, and ran. Dennis Murphy Voiceover that was ominous enough. Also troubling, why police at the time seemed unfazed. She wasnt taken seriously by the investigators. Was that a missed opportunity to take this guy off the streets . Yes. And so hes successful. Hes yet again beat another count or beat a charge that hes committed. Again and again and again. Yes. Dennis Murphy Voiceover now prill was hoping he could use that creepy, violent past against sandoval in court. He and Michael Rourke knew the looming trial would be excruciating for Tinas Family. It would also likely be their one and only chance to hold John Sandoval accountable. That was scary, because we were looking at a fourweek trial. And we knew we still were in the same boat, that we didnt have a body. And we had a lot to prove. Can we prove to a jury that in fact your sister is dead . Yeah. I wanted to make sure that they understood that if we took this chance, if we filed these charges, and if the trial didnt go well, and he was acquitted, and then a year from now we found tinas remains, were done. We wanted to pursue it, especially as the years went on, and it was more and more obvious tina was not coming back. They didnt want to come to trial and have it fail, and then you Cant Charge again. Only get one chance. Only one chance. Cant do double jeopardy. Dennis Murphy Voiceover Coming Up, just before trial, a sudden bolt from the blue. A hit came back on tinas social security number, and it listed to a woman working as a nurse. Something was active in tinas social Security Account. Thats got to be a pit of your stomach moment. Sure. Dennis Murphy Voiceover when dateline continues. Introducing New Advil targeted relief. The only topical Pain Reliever with 4 powerful painfighting ingredients that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source. 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Prosecutors still werent sure what a judge would allow the jury to hear. The sexual Assault And Upskirt videos from Las Vegas were Out Of Bounds because those were acts that took place after tina disappeared. And remember that impromptu search of Sandovals House on the night he was arrested, The One in which Detective Goldschmidt found Tinas Credit cards. Since goldschmidt had gone in without a Search Warrant, the prosecutor feared that evidence might be barred as well. But by far the biggest problem was proving that Tina Sandoval had been murdered. There was a moment after we had filed the charges where detectives, my partners and i, were sitting around in our war room. And all of a sudden, the question is, how are we going to prove that shes dead . And everybody just got really wideeyed. Talk about a basic question. Probably one we should have talked A Little Bit more about before we filed it, but we spent about the next two days just listing off everything that we do to try to find people. We knew that we had to do all of those things and then 50 more because we had to prove to a jury Beyond A Reasonable Doubt that she was deceased. Dennis Murphy Voiceover Sister Susan was ready for trial, but none in her family looked forward to it. That was hard. I mean, were all having to go back years and years and recall exactly what we all individually experienced. Dennis Murphy Voiceover Tinas Friend and colleague Carol Shervin would also testify. Were you a little intimidated by that when you were put on a Witness List . I was, yeah. Had you ever been in a Courtroom Environment before . No. Uhuh. No, i dont even watch court tv. I was pretty naive. Dennis Murphy Voiceover everything was ready. Then a few months before trial, a routine Computer Search turned up something that caused the hair to stand up on Detective Prills neck. A hit came back on tinas social security number, and it listed to a woman working as a nurse down in southern colorado. Something was active in tinas social Security Account . It appeared, yeah. Whatd you do . My partner went down and met with the woman that was using this social security number. And it simply turned out in the end that it was a transposition of numbers. 35 became 53, something like that . Exactly. Dennis Murphy Voiceover finally in july 2010, almost 15 years after tina disappeared, a jury was seated. It was time for opening arguments. Sandoval had pleaded not guilty. The Tournai Family began by telling the jury the Back Story of a troubled marriage. The prosecutor would add the sordid details of Sandovals Fetish as a Peeping Tom, some of his history with women. Tell me about coming into court, susan. Mmhmm. Hes right there. Youre feet apart. He was just smiling. It was kind of like he was trying to intimidate me, just like i gotcha, i gotcha kind of a smile. And i didnt want to look at him. I was just really focused on the attorneys and answering the questions. I wasnt going to give him anything. Dennis Murphy Voiceover his anger, the court heard how sandoval once pulled a gun and threatened suicide if tina were to leave him manipulative. A building, growing fear of what john would do as a result of this pending divorce, Tinas Expression of the nature of the Domestic Violence, not really physical necessarily, but certainly psychological and emotional Domestic Violence going on inside the home, her desires to distance herself from him and live her own life. Dennis Murphy Voiceover thanks to some favorable pretrial rulings, the judge found that the jury could hear about some of the criminal acts John Sandoval had committed against women in colorado prior to Tinas Disappearance in 1995. The judge had also ruled that evidence taken during that warrantless search of sandovals home and car was admissible the shovel and the bucket, a handgun, Tinas Credit cards, and some of sandovals sweatedthrough clothing that was covered with soil as though it had been flung over his head and rained down upon him. Id like to talk to my lawyer there. Hello. Dennis Murphy Voiceover and the jury saw this sandoval in the Interview Room from that first night. Here hes learned that investigators want to check his fingernails for signs of foreign dna. He didnt want to have anything to do with that. So instead of allowing Law Enforcement to cut his fingernails, he sat there and maniacally chewed on his fingernails. Dennis murphy trying to destroy evidence, presumably. He would chew them off. We could see him on the video biting them off. And then he would spit whatever he had chewed off onto the floor. Hey, man. Dennis Murphy Voiceover then police attempted to photograph some deep scratches seen on his face and chest. And so they have to physically put him in a position where they can take photographs of these injuries before they disappear. Youve got to turn his head and restrain him. Turn his head, hold his head to the side. They ended up cutting his shirt off of him so that they could get at the rest of what we believe to be scratch marks. [bleep] [bleep] he was wholly uncooperative with that entire process. [bleep] you guys are [bleep] insane, man. Want to get closer . So what . Why cant you just call my lawyer . Dennis Murphy Voiceover and then there was the fascinating story told by daisy the Police K9 and her handler, a search that began at tinas abandoned car. So what does the dog do . It goes through the neighborhood and tracks right up to johns house. From tinas abandoned vehicle to his Back Door. Correct. So john is at the hospital. I think we have him up there for gathering of additional 41. 1 evidence. Right. Hairs, pluckings, and stuff. So she then takes her dog up to the hospital, and johns in one of the rooms. She sends the dog on the track. Going past nursing stations and just yeah, and the dog goes right up to the room johns in, and goes up, and nudges his foot, i believe it was, and sits down. Dennis Murphy Voiceover the defense argued that John Sandoval was once again the usual suspect, a man with a past, whose estranged wife just happened to disappear shortly after telling friends and family that she was going to meet with him. In the end, the jury didnt buy it. Deliberations lasted seven hours. And as soon as they read guilty of the first degree, we just gasped. It was just like a huge sigh of relief. Just all the emotion came out. Had been keeping a stoic face for a long time. So. Did you see any remorse in him . No, no. No, he had no remorse. And the very next day, he was calling the attorney that i worked for that was a Defense Attorney and asking him to file an appeal. At the very firm where you were working . He didnt know i was there. He was calling all the attorneys around town asking them to file an appeal. And most of them were turning him down. Dennis Murphy Voiceover sandoval was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. And it was one of the more rewarding points of my career. Dennis Murphy Voiceover conviction meant the tournais would no longer have to look over their shoulders in fear of this angry mans retribution. But as time went on, it was a little easier to settle in and feel like everything was ok. Dennis Murphy Voiceover they didnt have tina, didnt know what hed done with her. But it seemed enough to know that he was gone away forever. Im just going to go ahead and lock it. Youd think, wouldnt you . Coming up i called susan, and all i could say is i have bad news. It was a pretty big blow. 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Dennis Murphy Voiceover then, on march 17, on what would have been tinas 44th birthday, the villain they thought theyd seen the last of crashed back into their lives. Has anybody got a knife . Colorado court of appeals reversed his conviction. And what was the narrow issue that they ruled on . The court of appeals found that some of that prior bad act evidence, not all of it, but some of it should not have been admitted. They also found that some of the testimony that we had elicited from our domestic Violence Expert went too far, and they sent it back for a new trial. Dennis Murphy Voiceover sandoval would have to remain in prison till then, but the fight to keep him there was just beginning. I called susan, and all i could say is, susan, i have bad news. The court of appeals has reversed his conviction, and the supreme court has refused to hear it. It was a pretty big blow because just a month before, my mom had found out that her Breast Cancer had come back. And then this was happening. So things really fell apart again at that point, because we didnt know what was going to happen. Did you guys even have to think for a moment about going for a second trial . Not for a second. Dennis Murphy Voiceover the Appeals Court may have ordered a new trial for John Sandoval, but the da was in no hurry to set a trial date. Prosecutor rourke figured that since sandoval had been in prison for nearly seven years, where all Phone Calls and visits are recorded, he may well have said something incriminating to somebody. So we had a feeling that when he went to the department of corrections, he would think nobodys listening anymore. My case is over. Now we can talk without having to use code words. And so i said to the judge when he asked how long of a time we need, i said, judge, were asking for a significant delay because were getting every Phone Call and every visitation that he has had, and were to them all. So, sandoval, dont make any plans for getting out next christmas. Thats right. Youre going to be in for a while. Youre going to be in for a while. And, oh, by the way, anything you said to your mom about killing tina were going to find. So how did that percolate down in his thinking and with his Defense Team . It didnt take long after that for my Office Phone to ring. And his attorney said, do you mind if we come over and talk about mr. Sandovals case . I said sure. Dennis Murphy Voiceover after discussing court calendars and retrial logistics, rourke says Sandovals Attorney Cut to the chase. And she said to me, mr. Sandoval has some information that he thinks would be of interest to you, of interest to the greeley Police Department, and notably of interest to the Tournai Family. And i looked across the table at her, and i said, is he finally going to tell us where tina is . And she said possibly. Leverage. Leverage. I can take you to the body. Thats right. But what are you going to do for me in exchange, right . Oh, that went without saying. We knew that he was only going to do this if we made him some kind of a Plea Offer. And we went into the Das Office, and they dropped the bomb that he said, i want a plea, and ill tell you where tina is if you give me this. And i dont recall how much time he wanted, but it wasnt enough. Dennis Murphy Voiceover the rough proposal knock the conviction down to a lesser charge of second Degree Murder with a shorter sentence to be negotiated, in exchange, the family would get tina back. Did you have a vote, or was this just a matter for the da to decide himself . No, he let us discuss it as a family. And we did. So i was feeling like, no, i dont want to do this. Im willing to go back to trial, but my mom wanted it really badly, and a few of my other siblings, they really wanted to know where she was, and they wanted that closure. There were a number of variables to consider time served, time reduced for good behavior, formulations that determine the earliest eligibility for parole to a halfway house. After being reassured John Sandoval would remain in prison for at least another 10 years, the Tournai Family held its collective nose and agreed to a deal with the devil. Our hope was to make it so hed be a very old man when he saw daylight. But its something thats out of your control in a way. Yeah. Dennis Murphy Voiceover march 22, 2017, nearly a year to the day after his Murder Conviction was overturned, John Sandoval accepted his new Plea Deal. I want to make the sole condition of this Plea Offer is our ability to locate, recover, and forensically determine that the body that presumptively youre going to show us the location of today is in fact tina. Ok . Any of those three things do not happen, and we dont have an agreement. Do you understand that . Yes, of course. Dennis Murphy Voiceover the time had arrived for John Sandoval to finally reveal the secret hed been keeping for more than 20 years where he put tina. Ok, from here, john, youre just going to have to give me directions on where to go. Dennis Murphy Voiceover Coming Up. Just keep following the road. Dennis Murphy Voiceover was Tinas Family about to learn the truth at last . Im not super confident at this point that johns led us to the right location. Hes such a snake. You have no idea what he might be trying to do. Dennis Murphy Voiceover when dateline continues. Introducing New Advil targeted relief. The only topical Pain Reliever with 4 powerful painfighting ingredients that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source. For up to 8 hours of powerful relief. New advil targeted relief. Everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. They want that hollywood white smile. New sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24 7 sensitivity protection. 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Dennis Murphy Voiceover but in this Police Video recorded on a chilly day in late march of 2017, John Sandoval gave directions, and calmly gazed out the car window, watching the familiar streets of the Greeley Cityscape go by. Crossing over 34. And then hook a left into this Sunset Memorial. Dennis Murphy Voiceover they turned into Sunset Memorial gardens. Just keep following the road. Dennis Murphy Voiceover a sprawling cemetery in the heart of greeley was their destination. Turned out sandoval had once worked there. The implication was clear. Somewhere in this vast cemetery, Tina Sandoval was likely sharing a grave. Once out of the car, sandoval seemed disoriented. This is going to help you . Well, what we need is up to 95 what was undeveloped. 95 undeveloped . Yeah. Ok. That may take A Little Bit longer. Trees have grown, more graves have been dug, and more headstones and markers are laid out. Dennis Murphy Voiceover The Cops werent saying, but they knew cemetery records indicated there were three freshly dug graves here on the Morning Tina disappeared. One was the resting place of a us veteran. I knew i was close, right at the apex of this drive here. So this seems about right. It seems about right. Come this way. Dennis Murphy Voiceover sandoval indicated here, i think. And that was what, the name of the person who was actually buried there . Arthur hurt was the Family Name the veteran buried there. He was a World War ii vet. So we went back to the Police Department and called his son richard and his wife debra, and just had this really uncomfortable breaking the Ice Kind of thing, explaining who i was. Youre not going to believe what im about to tell you . And thats exactly what i told them. Listen, man, youre not going to believe this, but we have reason to believe that a murder victim is buried under your dad at the cemetery. And those two remarkable people were 100 supportive and cooperative, agreed to sign whatever documents were necessary to exhume his dad. Theres no raised headstones. Dennis Murphy Voiceover sandoval was returned to the County Jail while Prill Made Plans for the exhumation in the morning. He knew hed need the expertise in high Tech Gear of a group of Body Recovery experts known as necrosearch. They would dig in the grave. Prill, a proud army vet himself, also knew he had to honor the veteran who in a way had stood watch over tina all those years. I thought it would be proper to at least have a military ceremony, both for the exhumation and then later for the remains to be returned into the grave. Dennis murphy you know what . That says a lot about who you are, detective. Well, i suppose so. I mean, im former military. And this family is now a new victim of John Sandovals, so how can we make it as honorable, and as respectful, and dignified as possible to potentially and hopefully find Tina Underneath . Because im not super confident at this point that johns led us to the right location. Hes such a snake, such a weasel. You have no idea what he might be trying to do. Dennis Murphy Voiceover the Veterans Coffin and remains were exhumed and taken to a mortuary to await reburial. The forensic experts went into the grave and began their oh so careful digging. When they came upon a plastic tarp, Mike Prill immediately called detective Brad Goldschmidt. We found plastic. Its a plastic bag. Hes like, do you think we found her . And im like, yeah, absolutely. And then the tarp was brought up and opened up by our pathologist. And almost immediately when i saw her teeth and her braces, i knew. You and the team had found her. We found her. The da called me. And said its her. And he said its her. What happens at that moment after all these years for you . Its again that release of relief, of some closure, of something being finished, of something being over, a part of that, that we finally knew where she was. So i was glad that we knew. Dennis Murphy Voiceover Tinas Friend and coworker carol sherwin, The One whod had nightmares after she vanished, was understandably relieved to hear Tinas Body had been recovered. Today, she says she understands the Tournais Determination to get her back, even if it meant agreeing to a Plea Deal for her killer. My nightmares finally went away. And now i have two daughters, and ill tell you, the nightmares never would go away if it was my child. I can only imagine how painful it was for them to think where could she be. So i totally understand why they wanted to do that. At least thats how i would feel as a mother. Dennis Murphy Voiceover the medical Examiner Studied Tinas remains, but could not determine how she was killed. Sandoval knew, but he wasnt talking. That was part of his Plea Deal. He would not give up the how and why of his wifes murder. You get down into a fresh grave in the middle of the night. And then dragging her. Drag her over. Get her down in there, fill it back up, level it off. Dennis Murphy Voiceover on a recent trip back to the cemetery, Detective Prill told me he has a pretty good idea of what happened on the Night Tina was buried here. This is x marks the spot. Where were standing is the edge of the cemetery just across these hedges. Right. So i guess he just went in bold as brass through the whatever that public driveway, the access is. Yeah, yeah. And theres no keys. Theres no big gates, welcome to heavenly rest and all that kind of stuff . No, theres no gates. Theres no controlled access. And he probably just hit off his lights and maybe even just coasted to a stop. Dennis Murphy Voiceover he came upon an empty, freshly dug grave. Hes never explained how he went about it, but its fairly evident that he had a flashlight tied around his neck. We recovered that from the car. Jumped down in a hole, dug the hole, used the bucket to climb out, drug Tinas Body into the dug grave, put her deeper under the ground. Dennis Murphy Voiceover because the Vets Funeral was scheduled for the next day, prill imagined sandoval using that Carpenters Level theyd found in his car to smooth out the disturbed soil on the bottom of the grave so that the soontoarrive cemetery employees wouldnt be suspicious. Theres the graduate. Tina and tina and julie Dennis Murphy Voiceover but now the Tournai Family had tina back, and could finally give her a grave of her own. Is she going to be taller . Im still a lot taller. Yeah, youre still A Little Bit. I dont have shoes on. Dennis murphy and you had her back, and now you could do a proper burial and memorial service. Yes, it was very healing, i think, for everybody. Brought us together again and kind of zipped it up for all of us, as far as shes ok now, and shes back with our family. Dennis Murphy Voiceover as for John Sandoval, when he next appeared in court, he got the lighter sentence hed been looking for 25 years. In return for delivering up his murder victims body, he would now have the possibility of parole. Do you understand that right . I do. Dennis Murphy Voiceover sandoval has a Parole Hearing set for 2026. Were working as a family to try and keep him put away. Do you believe he is rehabilitated . No. If he walks out . No, no. You think hes a clear and present danger. Yes. He gets good behavior when hes in prison Dennis Murphy hes a model prisoner, they say. Theres no women in prison. Thats his favorite thing, collecting women. Were still hoping that something will happen with vegas. That a fresh charge might come up. Fresh charge might come up, that one of the women might speak up. Dennis Murphy Voiceover Tinas Family has been proactive, appealing to the State Parole Board every time sandoval has come up for a hearing, saying, dont release him, not this time, not ever. If tina was sitting here dont we wish she were what would you tell her about all those years . Id just tell her i love her, and we tried our hardest, and were going to keep trying. Justice is not fully served yet, and were going to keep pushing. She emulated everything that was good. She just yelled through the door, i love you. And that was The Last Time i talked to her. So i said, wheres brooke. And he said, we cant find her
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