Welcome to primetime weekend. Lets get to the top stories. The former President Hand picked the Supreme Court with the intention they would undo the protections of roe v. Wade and they did as he intended and in state after State Laws have been passed criminalizing Healthcare Providers or anybody and we heard that story in georgia, a tragic story about a young woman who died because it appeared that people who should have given her healthcare would be criminalized. After the decision came down. She spoke to the National Association Of Black Journalists that he is a threat to all Women In America and if you return to the White House. The Vice President was referencing reporting in propublica that found the Abortion Ban he put into motion are causing women to needlessly suffer while waiting for treatment or causing irreversible damage to their Health Rendering them infertile or impacting their ability to have children in the future and we have irrefutable proof that this is killing women in propublica found two Women In Georgia have died after being unable to access timely Abortion Care after roe v. Wade was overturned and here is one woman story. In her final hour amble Nicole Thurman suffered from a Grave Infection that her hospital was well equipped to treat but some in the state made performing the procedure she needed a felony with few exceptions in any doctor who violated the new Georgia Law could be prosecuted and face up to a decade in prison. She waited in pain in a Hospital Bed worried about what would happen to her sixyear old son if doctors monitored her infection spreading and her Blood Pressure was thinking and her organs were beginning to fail. It took 20 hours for doctors to finally operate and by then it was too late. Yesterday should have been her 31st birthday. She was a 31yearold mom. And they report that the state medical committee that investigated this case, her case and others in other states operate on a Twoyear Lag on the cases they examined meaning the cases of women who have died since that decision are coming to light which means that according to propublica, there are almost certainly others. It is inexcusable and the stain on our country in this tragedy and once something kept deeply hidden and we never knew these stories and that is the harrowing account of women who are or could be sisters or daughters mothers and they deny the vital lifesaving healthcare after Donald Trump handpicked the supreme Court Justice and stripped away the constitutional right to an abortion. And these stories are so raw and so undeniably cruel and senseless that these maga loyalists are working overtime to change reality to deflect and distract from the horror that Donald Trump almost single handedly created. And one former Trump Staffer a 20 25 advisor a guy named John Mackin T has publicly tried to claim that these tragedies are not happening at all and as we showed you last week this guy took to tiktok to claim that stories of womens suffering are made up. Can Somebody Track down the women that Kamala Harris say are bleeding out in Parking Lots because roe v. Wade was overturned . Dont hold your breath. Eating chicken nuggets while being inhumane is an interesting touch. It seemed to work because since we share do that video on tiktok friday, it has made its way around the internet and the comments have been flooded with women sharing stories of being denied vital Abortion Care and the independent is reporting that the video now has more than 17,000 comments and almost all from women sharing their stories of being denied care and posting stories of being turned away from Emergency Rooms and agony bleeding out in Parking Lots, at home, and in public bathrooms and sometimes for months afterwards and others talk about miscarriages, ectopic pregnancies, losing the ability to have children and driving across multiple states to get treatment where it is still legal. Often while hemorrhaging. Most of the stories appear to involve wanted or planned pregnancies. The deadly reality for women in 2024 in Donald Trumps postroe america is where we start. The Senior Editor is here and she edited that incredible piece of reporting and also joining us is the president of reproductive freedom for all and the former obama white House Policy Director and a medical contributor to msnbc, Doctor Patel is here. I wish that John Mackin T was right and i actually wish this was not real. Tragically, it is. Take us through this report. Thank you for having us on to talk about this important reporting with propublica. We found that this is a very real case with a real woman who died in a suburban Atlanta Hospital from a preventative cause and the State Committee that was assigned to review these cases found this preventable and there is a simple procedure that could have saved her life and stop the infection from growing in her body and it was not performed for 20 hours. We dont know what was in the Committees Mind or the doctors mind, but we needed to know what the outcome was and that was this 28yearold woman is dead and one of at least two women who died in a situation that appear related to the van bn ban. I dont want to gloss over this one case yet and talk more broadly about our politics. Because i do think that what republicans want people to believe isnt just that these women dont exist but they are a certain kind of woman and not that they are a mom and who may have desperately wanted the baby they are pregnant with and i think that is why. There is Little Boy who lost his mom at six years old because of Donald Trumps criteria for selecting supreme Court Justices and for only wanting people who would overturn roe v. Wade in whatever happens in our politics, nothing undoes that single tragedy for this family and this Little Boy. Look, we knew this was happening and i have a tremendous amount of gratitude for the reporting Of Propublica who finally proved it. Right . We have been collectively gas lit by republicans for the past few years since dobbs and women will die and women are likely dying and we now have the Proof And Amber thurman would be alive today if it wasnt for Donald Trump and ryan kemp brian kemp Abortion Ban. He signed the bill and have the opportunity with his legislature to move the reproductive Freedom Act in georgia to repeal and fix this mess. Its important for a ready to understand that there is complicity up and down the Policymaking Structure from the Supreme Court to the Fifth Circuit to the Georgia Legislature to the White House. And it all conspired and collaborated. This was for the women like amber to die. And i cant say it enough. We didnt have to be in this place. We dont have to look like this. We owe it to amber and the countless number of women who stories we dont yet know to do something about it. Doctor patel i want to read you more on the reporting from how she died. By the time doctors began operating on amber, the situation was so dire that doctors it started with open Abdominal Surgery in the ob performed the dnc and immediately continued with a hysterectomy. During surgery her heart stopped. Her mother was praying in the Waiting Room while one of the doctors approached and Come Walk With Me she said and her mother recalled her last words before being wheeled into surgery. It was a vibrant young woman who had her whole life ahead of her. Promise me youll take care of my son. This is an fiction or from the 60s. This is the united states of America Post dobbs. It gets even worse. And kudos to propublica for bringing the story forward we know this is happening in this is the tip of the iceberg. What it was is 20 hours and just to be clear this wasnt 20 hours she came in with no pain but she had all the signs in the documentation and one of the consultants said that she is in septic shock. This is very clearly doctors who knew what was happening and not just doctors but entire teams and you can see how much and people ask me doctors should do the right Thing And Wont they . This shows you how much of an overhang and a shadow there is. I want to give some perspective and i dont know any of the doctors involved. I know the hospital but not the doctors. I know the doctors were probably thinking, well, if i get arrested and get removed and i am the only Covering Ob for this area, how many women will i not be able to treat so this is the position that medical professionals are put in and amber herself with the medical profession are in a medical assistant going on to learn nursing. Think about all the layers and the things she knew were wrong in order to get her, unfortunately, and did not having this child and the medical system knew it well enough to go out of state and know it well enough to know what to say and even she couldnt get the care. I do want to come back to the reporting. This is from what you reported. Amber found out she was pregnant with twins in the summer of 2022 and already a single parent and preparing to apply to nursing school, so she decided to have an abortion. The six Week Ban had gone into effect so she made an appointment for a physical abortion in north carolina. She got stuck in Traffic Due to the long drive and missed the window for a surgical abortion. The Clinic Couldnt hold her place because they were inundated with women coming from out of state so she had to rely on the abortion pill regimen. She was a good candidate for the pill and she experienced heavy bleeding and had she been in north carolina, the clinic that had seen her previously would have done a dnc but she was too far away. On August 18 Of 2022 she vomited blood, passed out and her boyfriend called 911. At the hospital she presented with clear unmistakable signs of sepsis. And as Doctor Patel said it took doctors 20 hours to operate it. She died on the table when her heart stopped. What will happen to all of these facts that are disputed . One of the interesting things we have found is these findings are never shared with families and Ambers Family has learned her death was learned to be preventable from propublica. And i know this is taken seriously and deemed it preventable and said her death was largely responsible or largely responsible by this 20 Hour Delay and we dont know what was in doctors minds and they did this after being seen several times and we are very interested in knowing more and they would love to hear from people who do no more and we want the entire story to come out. It is really up to the public and elected officials there in georgia to determine how to handle this and Governor Kemp said that propublica was engaging in Fear Mongering when we reached out for the story and its the same word they used a few weeks before she died when advocates were trying to stop the six week Abortion Ban said women would suffer and possibly die because of this ban. So this is their reactions to these warnings and this confirmed case. Tell me more about kemp thinking this is Fear Mongering and what part do you think is Fear Mongering . Is it because she died or because the facts of it are coming out . I can only assume that they think that talking about this is somehow making something on our part and i dont know what else elected officials like them need to know and we are here representing the facts as the state presented the facts and the Fear Mongering should be something that is being overblown and a woman who has died, one of two at least and we think this is important and not Fear Mongering. Up next for us, Donald Trump vilifying illegal immigrants in the small community of springfield, ohio suggesting many visits there he may not make it out safely and why would that be . We will talk to reporters on the ground and how these dangerous lies are the thing making the Community Unsafe for people who live there. That story is next. Liberty mutual customized my Car Insurance so i saved hundreds. With the money i saved i thought id get a Wax Figure of myself. Cool right . Look at this craftmanship. 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You may never see me again, but that is okay. I gotta do what i gotta do. Whatever happened to trump . Never got out of springfield. That to me is very classic and that is unclear what any of that was but i think i know. The expresident is undoubtedly adding fuel to the fire for the people who live and work in have to try to survive and raise their families in springfield, ohio by talking about planning a visit that the Republic Mayor warrants to be an extreme strain on the citys resources. He continues to ignore calls for local and state officials in his own party to stop fanning the flames of this baseless debunked Racist Conspiracy Theory about people who live there eating family pets. And to that point his maga allies are descending on springfield were members are hosting what they call an immigration Town Hall there later today and the city itself is reeling from the recklessness of these lies in our next Guest Reports that the Democratic Party volunteers are facing threats from far right groups while canvassing for the election and in response to the Bomb Threats that the schools in springfield are telling students to be careful of false information while State Troopers sweep the School Buildings twice per day. Turning the conversation, our correspondent in springfield, ohio and lifelong ohio and in Managing Editor of the community owned Radio Station is here with us and, chris, tell me what it is like there. Its been pretty hectic since last week and this is a community that has faced a lot of challenges for years and years and the Haitian Americans here have been a part of this community for the last five years and they have been creating businesses and working jobs, going to school and have become a part of the community. Things are now really tense with a sense of anxiety and they continue to have Bomb Threats every day and we are going on six or seven days in a row of that. The governor and the mayor said resources are stretched and State Troopers have been called into the city to help keep the school secure. On tuesday when i was sitting in the Parking Lot at one of the schools one of the parents ran into the school the pick up kids after they heard about a new rumor of a threat on facebook so somebody is on edge and there is a lot of uncertainty about what will come next. Two people understand why they are in the middle of the president ial race with 50 days to go . Do they understand the lie that people like you and people who have done the work to debunk the Lie And Nobody that follows the truth believes that there Labrador Retriever is at risk . Has it shattered their feeling that they are welcome in this country . I think it depends on the person. I have spoke with a lot of Haitian Americans over the last week but i have been reporting on this since 2020. It is and even an issue but i have been reporting on the reality that Haitian Americans are moving to our area and what they are dealing with and both the challenges and the success they have had. There are some folks have talked about moving back to florida and i think there is a real misconception that these people are illegal immigrants or illegal aliens. They arent. The vast majority are transplants or people who lived in florida or Long Island and decided to move to ohio because of the cheaper Cost Of Living and an opportunity to start their own businesses. Some are talking about moving back to places where there is a larger haitianamerican community. But other folks are talking about sticking it out and being resilient and this also will pass because a lot of people have started businesses and families here. They dont want to leave and they care about this community and springfield. What is amazing is they are neither of those things. And that is what Donald Trump and Jd Vance are calling them. Jd vance knows better. He knows that they have Temporary Protected Status. I want to take us to a moment in the debate were Donald Trump was talking about how spreading ally and that immigrants are coming and he said you know what it is the worst for his black and hispanic americans. He was trying to drive a wedge between those of us who are here with paperwork and those not and i think part of what springfield has illustrated so sadly is once the lie is out there it attaches to All Of Us to be antihaitian and it is to be antiblack and antilatinos at the border and antilatinos at the interior of this country and they say they want to support 11 Million people. If he is trying to say dont worry, you will be protected and you will be special are different because you have paperwork, they are now saying that is a true and Temporary Protected Status, Jd Vance is still calling you an illegal alien and they see no distinction between people who are here without papers. I want to play some of your great interview since you have been on the ground there. Let me do that first. Its a very terrifying feeling but i was also enraged because i know a lot of it is rooted in lies against a community that has shown me a lot of love. All of this activity with the bombing threats, it has an impact on the kids and they are scared. What is going on right now is chaotic and hectic and everybody has the right this is disrupting our peace. These people are nice people and good people. You are on the ground for us and tell us what you are hearing. Reporter i think one of those conversations that our team had with parents who are dropping their kids off to an elementary school, one of those that was evacuated last week because of that threat and one of the parents said he didnt know how to explain a Bomb Threat to his sixyearold and you have to sanitize this a bit and try to still explain in the sixyearold started crying wanting to go to school but also scared and fearful of going to school and that is the word i continue to hear and the conversations i have been having with people. Coupler people are fearful and scared and there are Bomb Threats that of targeted element we schools, campuses and yesterday it was a Grocery Store and walmart but also a fear that something else could happen because you continue to hear this rhetoric and you continue to hear these debunked and nasty claims that continue to be made. I spoke to the manager of a Creole Restaurant in town. He said people are still calling up his restaurant and saying, what is the cat special and are you still serving that dog i am hearing about . Its just hateful calls he is dealing with and hes also dealing with members of the community and other immigrants are fearful of their reality fearing that not only could they face a threat existing in springfield but fearing if Donald Trump is elected and that Temporary Protected Status which is what is keeping him in a legal status here or illegal immigration status here in ohio if that is revoked and what that means for them or when they have started businesses. There is a lot of fear they are hearing on the ground and this fear is based on very different things but all rooted, it seems, from that live. That live. One extra push and. Crack so, we scheduled at safelite. Com. We were able to track our technician and knew exactly when hed arrive. We can keep working synth Music Woman Safelite came to us. Tech hi, im kendrick. Woman with a replacement we could trust. Thats service the way we want it. Vo schedule free Mobile Service now at safelite. Com. 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So a line has to be drawn around picking and choosing what families are the right families and this attack on modern families which i think make up the majority of the families that people are in or have made, it must be working somewhere for someone, but you would think those are the kind of voters who would have walked up by now and this is a sign of political desperation to me. I do agree with you 100 percent. I find this so offensive. If you cant confront your opposing candidate on policy, you attack them personally. You attack a woman like Kamala Harris and i will tell you a personal story that when i first had contact with Kamala Harris as a sitting senator, i was a professor at a New School is the senior Vice President there and i would be asked to do the convocation for the entering first class. I did so. In my convocation speech, it was how we would be a we and not in us them. I come off the stage. And i get a text. The text is from senator Kamala Harris, whom i havent met and i know her sister well and that is how she got my number. She said that was fantastic and that was a great job. She was there for her stepchilds first day of college. Tell me what a parent is. I will tell you it is a person who shows up because it is the right thing to do for the person you want to support whether you gave birth to that child or not. It is the person who said i will care and understand even if i havent had a Child Biologically that the Child Care costs are a top expense that families are facing. And, you know what . You are probably earning 27,000 a year. In most major cities that is your rent. You are probably a mother yourself and saying what can i do as a leader about that . She didnt have to have biological children to do it. To your point, so many of us have people we love whom we didnt give birth to and as women who we care about and who we will show up for and we will vote for and that includes the young women we help can live and survive an unexpected pregnancy and make the choice for themselves. It is a christian nationalist extremist base. If you cant come up with a way to express compassion for others, all you can do is cling to your extremism. To that point, it is a line that runs through it and they dont seem connected but Jd Vance said in an interview that women should stay in marriages even if they are violent and governor sanders saying she couldnt be humble because she doesnt have kids. She does have kids. At some point it stops being about their ugliness and about them and it comes to being about us and this isnt just offensive to women who hear that and view it as some deliberate attempt at otherness but its offensive to men and anyone and a step kid. It is the kind of intolerance that at some point stops being about maga and starts to be about the rest of us and what will we do. It is also a very narrow vision of what a woman is and what you can be in this world and that you have to have biological children and i think that is antifeminist and you have to be a certain way to be a woman. I would also add it is ironic because this is a party that made it less safe to be pregnant and refuses to codify ivf. And again, this is this economy that harris talk so much about and they are not for early Childhood Stuff and a lot of these republican governors have rejected federal funding for meals for school kids. So i wont call it the entire part of this but it does seem antifamily. And yet you are telling us for women to be women they must have biological children. Biolon . Introducing kardiamobile 6l, the fdacleared ekg that provides sixtimes more heart data than any smartwatch. 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We catch that glimpse into what he really thinks of the presidency, the highest office in the land and years later this was propelled by the belief among his supporters that he was a wealthy and successful businessman and our next guest a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist have spent years puncturing that myth with meticulous supporting and out with a Brandnew Book Today called Lucky Loser with the best cover i have seen in many many years in the title is Lucky Loser how Donald Trump squandered his Fathers Fortune and created the illusion of success. In it they peel the curtain back inch by inch and not just those things funded by his father but also on how his guiding principle, fake it until you make it has shaped his entire life and public image. They say Donald Trump came to be imbued with a host of attributes that speak to how we confer Admiration And Status in modern america and the tendency to conflate the trappings of wealth with Expertise And Ability which is the real work of this a book and a story about Donald Trump, his family, wealth, failures. It is also a story about this country and how we arrived at a moment when Donald Trump is a leading candidate for president for the third time. Suzanne craig joins us now and you have contributed so much to what we understand about the Things Trump cares about the most and he has been under investigation almost since the beginning for potential ties to russia for overturning or trying to overturn his defeat in 2020 but the reporting under his Skin Wasnt any other and it was the reporting he did on this image of a successful businessman and talk about the story you tell. It is incredible how much it gets under his skin in this book steps back to tell the definitive story through narrative starting with his father in the relationship with his father and his Business Career. We go through these decades. What you find is when we start with Fred Trump and incredibly successful and we go through the Family Struggle that landed and ended up running the Trump Organization and we start on donalds Business Career and the early time in his life and when he is in his 20s and already claiming in New York to be worth a few hundred million dollars and giving interviews to the New York times where he says he is worth 200 Million and soon that became 1 billion. He was appropriating his Fathers Wealth. He had inherited hundreds of millions of dollars from his father and he got more money from the apprentice but just the idea of his father in this relationship and how his father bankrolled him for years and the unwillingness to accept it its almost like he doesnt believe it himself that this happened. It sort of became an are reporting and what we talked about as the original lie and he called his father a smalltime guy and he said he had a small loan from him. In fact, it is wrong and alive. He got hundreds and millions of dollars from him and he is who he is today because of it. We look at the Ups And Downs of it because he got this large inheritance from his father and in addition to connections and everything else and this second rush of money almost like an inheritance from the apprentice and the book goes into detail about that. And the loser part is how he lost a lot of it along the way in these businesses that werent making money. The idea that he squandered his Fathers Wealth and i think the first long piece of journalism about his finance reveals that and it was a shock to him when it was made public and it is one of these lies he thought the hardest to keep in place seemingly for political purposes but the book makes it deeper and the mirages about wealth and sustaining the inherited wealth and it could be tied into everything. That is interesting and a good observation. I definitely think wealth was the currency of that family. I think also that we saw this huge windfall that came to him and it made his first rise possible and we saw through later reporting this second windfall from the apprentice and we really wanted to connect that and that is the work of this book. When you look at this, you see this incredible cycle where this huge pot of Money Absence of any business expertise. He does use that to look like a successful businessman so he tries to build something new and a huge tower in chicago and The Worlds tallest building on the West Side of manhattan and tries to renovate and as the old Post Office in washington dc. Those businesses regulate Acquire Influxes of money from those Giant Tops of money that came his way and there are currents that run through that of making the same mistakes over and over and chiefly that he believes he can spend anything to create one of these businesses because it has his name on it and it will make the Revenue Match whatever he spends and his life is an Object Lesson in proving that as well. The natural extension is that the presidency i think there is this mythology that the businesses and image of a businessman fuels the presidency which the presidency as part of this project as well which is fueling the names of the buildings and the perfection of the businesses. That is interesting and i think it is true. I think also he believes that he is genetically superior to other people and his judgment there is a real Turning Point in his life in 1985 where he has his first flush of success with Trump Tower and with that hotel and he has done that with other partners and with his Father Support and under the watchful eye of far more experienced people in a small crew working for him and he believes he can do anything at that point in time and he proposes this project with the tallest building in The World and 76 Story Skyscrapers around it. He buys a Football Team and tells the league he will produce the networks and they will stop covering nfl and cover this upstart Football League and he spent more money on a casino than anybody ever has and buys an Airline Shuttle and it goes bad within about six years. 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