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That is still raging in North Carolina. It is actually about more than one crazy guy. And he is definitely crazy if you read any of the things he has said. Its about more than one important swing state. Believe me, North Carolina is very important. This is a story about the corner the Republican Party has backed itself into. As im sure you have heard by now are probably wish you good on here or see. Mark robinson, the republican nominee for governor North Carolina posted a lot of Stephanie Porn say. He called himself a black Porn T and supported reinstating slavery. Thats according to a thorough report from cnn that came out last week. Now, surprise surprise, ever since then robinson has repeatedly denied making those comments. What we heard from him today is just about as trumping as you can get. We are in talks right now, everything up to legal counsel to take cnn to task for what they have done. We are going after them. We are going to go after them for what they have done. Threatening to sue a Media Organization for reporting on something you actually did. I wonder who he learned that from . That is Mark Robinsons response. When it comes to the Republican Party, not all of them but many republican leaders, we are seeing flashes of what you would expect to see in the wake of a scandal like that. His top staffers resigned in the republican Governor Association said, quote, the current media buy in North Carolina expires tomorrow and no further placements have been made. Thats all they said. Robinson is losing staff and hes not getting any more money from the republican governors association. Thats not a sign for any campaign. Therefore fitting this race for governor in North Carolina which he was already losing. Here is the thing, even as staff abandons him and money dries up, No One is picking up forcefully as to why those things are happening, even though its obvious as to whether this things are happening. There was no condemnation of antisemitism in the statements from staffers for the rga. No denouncement of the self proclaimed black Porn To comment and no denouncement of any of that from far too many leaders of the Republican Party. Donald trump has zero Self Control just spent the last few weeks waxing poetic about pets and defense the indefensible every chance he gets and he did not mention robinson once this week and during a rally in North Carolina. Is running make, j. D. Vance said something about all of this well really saying nothing at all. Do you believe those were not his post . I dont not believe in. I dont believe in. I think you have to let them play out in the court of Public Opinion. I dont not believe him. I wonder if somebody put that down as a talking point. Not to worry. J. D. Vance took another crack at it today in North Carolina. What he said or did not say is between him and the people of North Carolina. The people of North Carolina will make that decision. Ive seen the statements, ive not seen them all, some are pretty gross to put it mildly. Mark robinson says the statements are false that he didnt speak them. I think its up to Mark Robinson to make his case to the people of North Carolina that those were his statements. I will let him make that case. A Sex Scandal in North Carolina is between the Lieutenant Governor and the people of North Carolina. A Sex Scandal. It was soon take porn. There was no mention of the black Porn To stuff. It continued with Mike Johnson when asked if he supports robinson, a man who never misses a moment to talk about his faith and how important it is to him and spoken repeatedly against antisemitism said this. , quote, im not involved in the North Carolina governors race. Ive got enough on my hands. Okay. Senator Tom Cotton echoed that nonanswer answer yesterday. Do think trump should still support Mark Robinson in North Carolina . I will leave that to former President Trump and the people of North Carolina. Really . The guy applauds Mein Kampf on a Pornography Site and thats the best you can do . Lindsey graham managed to somehow outdo Tom Cotton. I think what will happen here is he deserves a chance to defend himself, Mark Robinson, the charges are beyond unnerving. If they are true, he is unfit to serve her office. If they are not true, he is the best lawsuit in the history of the country for libel. I could go on but i think i made the point. We are watching with is uncharacteristic silence from trump in the cringe Worthy Caging is from the republican allies is a Pocket Veto in real time. They are not saying they do Support Robinson but they dont say they dont either. None of the leaders in the Republican Party of florida forcefully said what i think should be a layup of response to all of this. That is this, this is wrong. There is no place for bigotry, antisemitism, sexism, racism or hate her flirtation with nazis of any kind. That should not be hard to do. None of them have said that. Because i cant say that because of they say that about Mark Robinson than that to say that about Mark Robinson Donald Trump in j. D. Vance. If they speak out about the bigotry that robinson stands for, then a speak out against the leader of their own party too. That would require a level of political courage that very few of them seem to possess. In the last few minutes we learned Brian Kemp pulled his endorsement of robinsons i guess there is that. There is so much happening today, we had to bring out the big table. Our Staff Writers for the atlantic and gretchen is a journal is a founder of lift our voices and has an amazing Initiative And Symone sanders downs in the former Chief Spokesman for Vice President Kamala Harris and cohost of the weekend right here on msnbc. A lot happening. I gave my take on the Mark Robinson news. Mark, you never hold back. What is all of that tell you right now about the state of the Republican Party . Here is the thing. Trump has introduced an ethic, i dont know if you call it an ethic, but whatever it is, you will deny and attack the media and claim its made up. Then you never apologize. You never show any Courage Or Step back and do the decent thing. The problem is the contagion. You have people who know otherwise who have to go on Tv And Sound like idiots. I mean, a thinking person i think thats a fair statement of what we just saw. Its not just this case. J. D. Vance having to say we made up the stories but its okay because its freedom of speech. Thinking people can actually make determinations about this and conclude these are not people really fit to serve and not answers that are acceptable to me. Thats what i think this is. Its more than whats happening. Its a contagion. Herschel walker, theres lots of examples, and their similarities free range of reasons but it feels slightly trump is at the top of the ticket and never silent about anything. Does a similar or different . Some of the anxiety you put your finger on in the republican establishment where they dont seem to know what they should say about this stems from the fact that throughout the party leaders do not know where the line is anymore. For what their base will tolerate and what they want. Part is the desensitizing effect that trump has had in the republican electorate over the last 10 years. Part of it is you go back to 2015 went wrong first came on the scene, that Republican Party was already in a state of disarray. The Tea Party upended the politics and changed the Litmus Test and a lot of republican politicians didnt know what they were supposed to say anymore to keep voters on their side. For the last nine or 10 years basically at this point they have been following trumps lead. Donald trump is not giving a clear indication of what to do with Mark Robinson so republican leaders dont know what to do about Mark Robinson. Thats where you get the confusion you show from j. D. Vance all the way down to local leaders in North Carolina. Gretchen, doesnt feel confusing. There are disagreements between the parties. Trump is the enigma so the question is, for these crazy candidates, do they win or do they lose . Most of the time like herschel walker, they have lost. Trump is teflon. He has had no repercussions for the crazy stuff he says. Robinson will likely lose as governor but what does it do to trump in North Carolina which is a bigger question. North carolina is a go incredibly important state to Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. My concern Is Trump is at the top of the ballot with Kamala Harris. North carolina also has a history of a split ticket. They voted for trump last time but voted in a democratic governor. They have that history. Robinson could lose. Im not sure that means people dont still vote for trump in North Carolina. The split ticket. Its not been won in the federal level since Barack Obama will go North Carolina. North carolina is a hard state. Symone and i have spent many hours on campaign buses. Trump is spending money there. Has been there. He has traveled there and that tells you something. Harris would love to win North Carolina. Democrats would breathe a sigh of relief. What is the state of things there and for people you are talking to two gretchens point, how much of this is impacting the top of the ticket . Can i say something about what they noted. Theres a political analysis and there is a theoretical conversation. In the weeks and months after the assassination of dr. King since trump likes to talk about dr. King in relation to the Lieutenant Governor of North Carolina. People who were polled, Public Opinion, said the majority people in the surveys that dr. King brought the assassination upon himself. They thought he was a terrorist and antiamerican. The following year after his assassination, congress passed the fair housing act. He had pushed for it while alive was denied by some of the same people who helped pass civil rights. Why do i bring this up . For the Republican Party and elected officials, theyre concerned about whether voters are. Public opinion of their voters, but the public Opinion Isnt always right. One could argue of people had the courage within the republican Party Apparatus to park what Public Opinion is, a lot of trump voters which is not the majority of the republican Party Apparatus, perhaps things would look different. Example after example when it is matter, people have chosen not to book Donald Trump. They tucked their tail between their legs. Thats why Donald Trump loses the elections but the Mark Robinsons of the world in j. D. Vances of the world will be elected. You had a piece in the atlantic about this. When it comes to North Carolina, robinson is the setting Lieutenant Governor was at a number the things that came out in the online sites, were things that were known about him which is why people that i talked to, he said the crazy things pick people i talked to on the ground say is crazy is baked in. People voted for him anyway the last time is Lieutenant Governor. I dont know what effect i think the effect of the Campaign Staff leaving, that to me, Real Republicans who wanted to work for a potential republican governor, that can make a difference to some republican voters but lets be clear. They didnt leave because of the antisemitism. They left because of the Pornography Site. A man who is disparaging trans kids and people but apparently likes to indulge in the watching of it in his private time, hypocrite. One of the thing that might affect trump would be if they had an antiabortion would move the needle. Because they do not, im not sure that anything Mark Robinson says will change. I actually think i think there could be a reverse effect. Its rare and i understand why people are skeptical. Usually the top of the ticket is the one who has a trickle down effect. I think the fact that Mark Robinson is a much worse, weaker candidate than a typical republican on the ballot. Split Ticket Habits in North Carolina but the things he has said are already widely known in the state, but he is unpopular. Is not polling well. He is almost certainly going to lose. I think that could have an effect. Those republicans are not necessarily going to go vote for Kamala Harris. They are just not going to show up. The legislature is controlled by republicans and thats in there that could impact abortion rights. Mark, you havent weighed in. Is their impact on the top of the ticket . He was going to lose anyway. I will say is going to lose. If im wrong, they can show this clip and they will have a party. He will not win. He was not a great candidate to begin with. As mckay said, this could depress turnout. I do think, as i said before, the Kind Of Circus Act you see around trying to have republican politicians explain this away is a terrible luck. You dont have to be that bright to see whats going on here. Of course is going to be depressed. You would hope it would be. Trump has his supporters and a level,. An Abortion Thing on the Ballot Wouldve been more determinative. It doesnt help. Hold your thoughts. We are coming back. Democratic Superlawyer Marc elias and Jamie Raskin are standing by later. First harris taunts Donald Trump into a second debate and that plan involves Chicken Billboards that showed up for trump when he arrived today to do his event. Do his event. In pennsylvania where Donald Trump is holding a rally tonight, i mentioned this earlier, he was greeted with his billboards depicting him in a chicken suit. The text rich, quote, theres no debate. Donald trump is a chicken. Over the weekend, harris announced is stems from this. She accepted an invitation to debate trump on october 23. In response, trump claimed its, quote, too late to hold another debate since early voting has already begun in a handful of states which has begun in many places already. Never mind also the fact that trump debated President Biden on October 22 in 2020 and also debated that late in 2016 which was also early voting was happening. We had to give you those details. The group is back with me and i before i hear from you, their historically three debates and they happen in the fall. You have covered it and lived through it. Its usually a dominant thing and its not right now which is a weird thing. I will start with you, symone, because you know Vice President Kamala Harris the best of all of us it is safe to say. I taken her she did great in the first debate and she needs more big moments. I think she figured, they figured, trump had complemented the Cnn Debate so maybe this was an easier one. What do you think her plate is . He not only complemented them but he said they knew how to run it and abc did not. He said that because he felt he did better against President Biden than he did against Vice President Kamala Harris which is true. Better is relative. I think Donald Trump has said before he will not debate. I believe he doesnt like being called a chicken and doesnt like looking weak. He doesnt like coverages says he is scared. At some point, what your actual excuse. Perhaps you dont want to do it. In that case, his ego jumps in and he ends up on the Debate Stage. If i were advising the trump people, i would be of the, there is no way in heck you are getting on that Debate Stage. She Ager Lunch and breakfast. Heres the question i have. The race is close to state the obvious. They both need more moments. I know she completely destroyed him on the Debate Stage, but what do republicans think . Should he debater they dont want him to debate . I would say republicans on average if you to survey them on the hill, they would rather he not debate again. This would be the case for him debating. The expectations will be incredibly low for him. He had a really bad debate. Vice president Kamala Harris did much better than him. Everybody saw that. The majority of viewers people who watch said it in polls afterwards. Because he will have a lower bar, the case for him doing it would be show up and clear it and people may say, is not as bad as i remember. I would say Vice President Kamala Harris, her reason for debating again apart from the fact she did so much better last time is i think she could use more opportunities to introduce herself to the american public. The last debate revolved mostly around her case against Donald Trump. She prosecuted it will going into that debate, the consensus is she needed to introduce herself. She needed to make the case for herself and im not sure she got the chance to do that the way she should have and that would be why another debate would be useful. All the Focus Groups said they loved what they heard from her and they finally got a chance to know her and how she felt about policies, but they wanted to know more. This is why i have been saying she needs to do local interviews and battleground states. She needs to get into more specifics on some of these policies. I know her age dont want her to do that. But they should do them. The voters are clamoring for that information. Back to what mckay said, she was so exquisitely trained in the first debate that im sure people are worrying she could only do the same or do slightly less, and to your point, trump can only probably do better. If he talks about policies, that could be a benefit. White people saw from the Vice President is how she is. Her actual professional training was as a courtroom prosecutor. What they saw on the Debate Stage is what she would consistently present. You are not in your head. What is hard is you need big moments in debates not debates but campaigns. Shes the only candidate here was growth potential. A solid debate, not even a great debate she had the last time, would help her immeasurably. It could be a Closing Argument Kind of thing. Do not sleep on the walls of the vance to be. Because there will be fewer debates, this will have more emphasis, but these are two uniquely compelling figures who are making who could be effective on their own merits but i think walz seems to have nailed done a lot of lines he can use to great benefit. He essentially change the messaging of the Democratic Party organically. He deserves credit for it. It will be interesting to watch. We havent talked the polls a lot. Part of the factor, if harris was 10 points of her troubles 10 points up, maybe it would never debate. They may not debate. There was an embassy Pull The came yesterday and there was good news for harrison there in the Center Approval Rating has gone up by more than it has for anyone since george w. Bush post 9 11. She moved in demographic groups but there are group she has not moved in. What stuck out to you . Latinos in arizona jumped out at me. The interesting thing about the threat to democracy that theres been so much discussion of trumping a threat. All the polls are showing theyre basically the same in the category. Its inexplicable to me. Maybe they shouldnt use that line as much anymore when Tim Walz says trump is weird, i think that resonates more with voters than maybe the threat to democracy even though that makes no sense to any of us as journalists. Although she needs to continue to give more specifics in assessing tway of how she feels about policies. If shes changed her mind, that is fine. She just has to back it up. Why does she have to give specifics when Donald Trump im not defending trump at all. I am saying she is an unknown to voters more than Donald Trump. He is Feeding Red Meat to the maga base. For him its turn out. Hes not trying to get suburban moms and independent women. Its all about red meat. She needs more details because people are clamoring to learn more. We have to wrap it up. We could keep talking. Its hard to know what they want from her. When they say they want to know more, do they want a 20 Point Planner knowable her . I hope you come back. We will not show a clip of you. Thank you. Make sure to catch symones special black women in america at 9 00 p. M. When Donald Trump says we dont need votes like he did over the weekend, his scream in the quiet part outside. Superlawyer Marc Elias is standing by to talk about an avalanche of Voter Suppression efforts. Suppression efforts. Start at age 9. 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This do not appear to be the Things Trump and his campaign are prioritizing. According to a new report from ap, republicans are not seeing anything even resembling an effective Ground Campaign in key states. A report like that six weeks out from Election Day should be a Red Flag for any campaign. Is trump suggested again just this weekend, turning out votes is not as top priority. Is it, you know, we dont need votes. What we need is honesty in the election. If we have honesty, we have all the votes. You definitely need votes in an election. What trump is referring to is what he and republicans like to call Election Integrity which i am puttingend quotes because they mean lawsuits and voter intimidation and Voter Suppression. By the beginning of september, republicans had filed more than 70 lawsuits challenging Voting Access and the rnc said they have more than 165,000 volunteers ready to watch the polls. Trump is a focus on what his campaign is doing To Weaponizes big lie. He is fixated on what individual states are doing because thats what it is about. One of the clearest examples is whats happening in georgia. Last month, trumpbacked members of the Georgia State Election board approved a measure that said local officials may conduct reasonable inquiry that, quote, the results are true and accurate accounting of all votes cast in that election. That may sound harmless on the surface, but what it does is open the door for local officials to refuse or delay certification of any results i do not like. Friday, the same Election Board voted on another new measure requiring counties to hand count the total number of ballots. Its arduous and could take a long time. That move has been called unlawful by the office of georgias republican Attorney General and poll workers are warning this Rule Change could cause complete chaos by taking up too much time, money, and, certainly producing counting errors. We will see if the new Role Stand but one thing is for certain, trump and his allies are more interested in injecting chaos into the process to suppress the vote than they are and actually winning more votes. Joining miss allies, the founder of Democracy Docket and a partner at the Marc Elias law group. I know what i heard when he said we dont need votes. You do this for a living. What did you hear when he said that this weekend . One of the biggest mistakes people have made is saying we should take trump seriously but not literally. This is not the first time he has said this. He fired ronna mcdaniel, the former Rnc Chair because she was too interested in Voter Turnout operations and not enough Voter Suppression. That is what caused him to change the Rnc Chair. And he has said on several occasions that he doesnt worry about votes. He wants to build this army a vote suppressors. We take that literally. They are scrambling at the last minute and they are down ballots are nervous. They have made their bed with this guy. They have made it. A guy at the top of the ticket saying voting by mail is not a valid way to vote, thats a problem for down ballots to state the obvious. I went through a quick summary of whats happening in georgia. This is one of those things that got asked about it my neighborhood potluck. People are wondering what the impact will be. It sounds scary and it will take forever to count the votes. I will paraphrase and i want to know what you think that republicans speaking out means theres not legal standing. Maybe someone like the Attorney General and the state could challenge it, but what happens now . What could stop this from moving forward . It is a big story that the very conservative Attorney General of georgia, not someone regularly associated with the oppositional to Donald Trump, he is very conservative and his office came out and said these rules being enacted are likely illegal. Its incumbent on him and the Secretary Of State to take the next step and maybe bring litigation of their own to bring an end to this. Lets remember how this began. It began with Donald Trump from a Campaigns Stage calling out three members of the state canvas, State Board of elections, by name. You and i have done a lot of campaigns. Campaigns in the past together. When was the last time you heard a Candidate Callout a State Board of Election Member by name . Also, he doesnt know where Bagram Air Base is. Is remembering the Election Board members, tells you a lot about whats going on in his mind. This is important for people to know their ways to stop this but for people to understand why this is bad, with this move forward what is the biggest risk. Counting takes too long to meet the Certification Deadline . What are the things that people should be concerned about . First of all, everyone should be concerned theyre registered to vote and the vote. In terms of these particular issues, the State Board of elections is changing rules at the last minute. Lets be clear. Ballots have started to go out. They are still in the process of trying to change the rules by which they are counted and certified. Election officials, this was on monday but they have to know the process and procedures for doing what they do. Every time theres a last Minute Change thats a potential problem. Theres no question he wants, they want to inject for election denies to refuse to certify accurate Election Results but that will get defeated. They will lose in court. They will lose, but this is the only plan that republicans and Donald Trump have left. I think people are happy to hear Marc Elias say that. I have to ask about nebraska. Its another when people are following. There has been this effort in nebraska led by trump allies to make it a winner take all state making it nearly impossible for a democrat to win in the electoral. Its possible for democrat to win electoral votes. A. K. A. Republican lawmaker came out in a position effectively blocking it today. Trump freaked out and Social Media which tells you a lot. Is is over in nebraska for now . It appears to be over. They have a unicameral legislature. They dont have the votes and it appears they were going to give up and good for this individual for standing up against this last Minute Change. Republicans used to compete for the majority of votes and they no longer do there. Trump wants to win not be getting the most votes provide the 11th Hour with Stephanie Ruhle Figure out how to suppress votes in win through the Electoral College and this was a blow against those efforts. Marc elias, you have a lot on your plate so thank you for taking the time. Heres a headline in The New York Times is former President Trump demanded investigations of those. He often got them. I will break down those details and talk about it with congressman Jamie Raskin. Congr four years after trump left the White House, we are still learning new details about his efforts To Weaponize a federal government. Still learning more details. This weekend The New York Times revealed how he stunned aides in 2018 telling them that, quote, if Attorney General Jeff Sessions would not order the department to go after Hillary Clinton and James Comey, the former fbi director, mr. Trump would prosecute them himself. Times reporter Michael Schmidt broke it down even further. The president of the United States said that he wanted to turn himself into a prosecutor. He wanted to use the powers of the federal government to investigate and go after his perceived rivals and enemies and critics. In this piece, schmidt also says the White House hustlers wrote trump a long memo explaining that no, couldnt legally start a prosecution himself. They were so concerned about trump trying that they smuggled copies of their memo out of the White House so they would have a record of their efforts to restrain him. Despite concerns by his own White House lawyers, bigger concerns, his loyalist in the department of Justice Move forward and they did go after trump paid it. Clinton, comay, John Kerry and even former aide who turned against him like john bolton. They were all investigated. Trump attacked reporters and members of the media all the time. We sought happen publicly, and of course, the Justice Department at the time took it upon themselves to go after the Phone And Email records of reporters he did not like. Trumps aide said is pressure to go after enemies was constant and relentless. Former trump national Security Adviser john bolton. The times, quote, when trump says things like this, he is serious. I know from experience that he constantly voids the idea and it is something he will come back to until the gets done. It couldve been even worse. At least some of his worst impulses, some of them, were stymied by some officials. What if he wins reelection and had sent a plan to take out those guardrails . That is what project 2025 was actually meant to be. Its an effort to build a deep state of trumps on. Behind the Policy Playbook its a database of around 20,000 applicants ready to be part of the next trump administration. That database is still growing. The point here Is Trump doesnt need to order things to happen. He didnt in all those cases. He needs to put his loyal cronies impositions with a note, if he uses about something, then they should act. That makes the staffing of the Department Of Justice a historically independent agency that makes her own decisions even more important. If trump does win it, was a democrats plan to prevent him from weaponize it . Luckily, i have the perfect person to is. Jamie raskin is standing by and joins me next. Joins me next. 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Help protect them in the next. Ask their Doctor Today about hpv vaccination. Its a Plant Up and the government. It was politicizing the federal workforce and cutting the professional civil service, weaponize and the Department Of Justice against political rivals and the people. That is congressman Jamie Raskin. The ranking democrat on the House Oversight Committee talking about project 2025. Thanks to this new reporting in The New York Times, we can see clearly that there was plenty of weaponize in going on in the first trump term. If he wins this november, he has a blueprint that will let him go much much further. Congressman Jamie Raskin joins me now. It is great to see you. I went through The New York Times reporting and you have a lot of thoughts on this. One of the things that stuck out to me on this reporting that i wanted to ask you about is his quote. There is no record of the inquiries and other actions coming about as a result of a formal, signed order from mr. Trump. Instead, he repeatedly signaled what he wanted publicly and privately, leaving No Doubt among subordinates. What is scary about that is it is him musing about something. Its not looking for the internal memo. People just running with it. If he staffs the Department Of Justice with his loyalist, it could be far worse. What do you make of that . What did you make of that reporting and what keeps you up at night about this . Like all good mob bosses, Donald Trump would make his intentions very clear both through public statements and private intentions. He might not commit it to memo but it was clear he wanted James Comey, the fbi director, to go after Hillary Clinton and to prosecute her. The lock her up thing was not just some political whimsy. That was real. When James Comey refused to recommend prosecution going forward to prosecute Hillary Clinton, then he turned and James Comey and said he should be investigated by the irs. He should be prosecuted. He would do it himself if he had to and so on. You begin to see that in Donald Trumps paranoid vengeance is the substance of politics. That is what it is about. Going on vendettas of against perceived political adversaries and enemies. Its amazing the people who are on that list. James comey, andrew mccabe, everybody knows about Michael Cohen. His private counsel for many years who was willing to do anything for Donald Trump, and then Donald Trump wants to bring the full wrath of the Department Of Justice and the federal governdo Michael Cohen to keep him from exercising his first amendment rights. He saw to it presumably that Michael Cohen end up in Solitary Confinement for a couple of weeks. If he would do this thing to the director of the fbi, Deputy Director the fbi, his own private counsel, imagine what he would do to any ordinary citizen out there who dares to take a stand against Donald Trump. When he says Dictator Day one, everybody has to take him at his word. He means that ntu will feel as if he made his intentions clear all the more justified. Lets not forget the Supreme Court in its Roberts Court Wisdom has now said that the president of the United States has immunity from prosecution for actual crimes committed as president of the United States if they are perceived to be within the core functions of the presidency. Under the rubric of the court functions even if their felony offenses. He will be unbridled. We dont like to play Donald Trump clips around here, but to your point, we have to take him at his word and its important for people to hear. Is at a rally in pennsylvania and i want to play something he said moments ago. Its important for people to understand what he means by it. We are going to go after anybody that gets caught cheating on the election. We will go after them harder than anyone has ever been sought before. These people are really a threat. They are a threat to democracy. The democrats are a threat to democracy. He said similar things before but it expands and hes saying more of it. They are a threat to democracy. What should people take from that . Its a remarkable clip and i saw three things. One, it was a projection of his entire approach to this election. He is not campaigning. They are not going door to door and tried to enlarge the maga coalition. They are trying to figure out ways to nullify votes as they did on january 6, 2021. They are trying to repress the vote, control the election, they have a bag of Dirty Tricks that are beginning to be taken out of the bag right now. The second thing is it is a threat. A clear attempt to intimidate people. We saw what they did to Election Workers in 2020, and theyre trying to create as much fear as possible across the country in people who are administering the elections. The people who make democracy functional in america. The third thing is, we know based on the reporting, that was a promise. He means to follow through on that. His advertise the names and faces of those of us in the January 6 Select committee already saying we are wanted for various imaginary crimes floating around in his head. He is seeing everybody who participates in the election will be subject to his vengeance. He has said he will be an instrument of revenge for his followers. We have got to take him seriously. Thats a perfect place to end. Congressman Jamie Raskin, i always learn things and think about things. I have an exciting announcement to make before we had things after rachel. Gs aft. Announcer what if you could whiten your teeth by simply brushing your teeth . Now you can with smileactives, the Teeth Whitening breakthrough that safely gets your teeth white and keeps them white every day just by brushing your teeth. Christine i never thought that whitening my teeth could be so easy. I just put the gel on the brush, the toothpaste on it, brush and i can see my white teeth. 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