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The tire was flat, i approached the car, checked it, heard either meowing, a kitten, or something alive, went up to the container , there was a garbage bag with handles on top , there was a garbage bag inside, uh, i opened the garbage bag, i saw that there was a diaper in there, i opened the diaper, i saw the child, i was very shocked, i was worried, that is, everything was shaking, i covered it with a diaper so that it was cold outside, 26. Horror was the childs body numb . The body was cool, but he was moving, showed signs of life, called a friend, well, they work as rescue drivers, and that is, at 16 03 he called the duty officer, and the duty officer already passed it on to all authorities, that is, everything was it is clear that the child was born quite recently, yes, since my daughter was born not so long ago a year ago, i. I dont understand at all how it was possible to do this, how it is possible to simply take it from a trash can in this bag and subject it to him to absolute death, can you imagine what kind of cruelty , what is this, what kind of person should be, what kind of conscience is this, how does she even breathe anymore, i dont understand, this is beyond the bounds of the child you carried for 9 months. You throw him in the trash, dooming him to a terrible creepy, painful, slow death, god, i in general, i just cant, i have no words, nikolai, but the fact that the baby is wrapped in some kind of blanket, with two more bags on top, yes, what this may indicate is that the mother cared in such a way that the baby i didnt immediately freeze, but i put a blanket on him, or vice versa, hoping that he would suffocate or that no one would hear the scream. It doesnt matter if he is wrapped in bags in a blanket, well , imagine, well, we ourselves, being in such cold for 1520 minutes, understand that we need to run somewhere, and here is a child, well, if only not a miraculous rescue if it werent for the wheel that needed to be checked, yes, that is, we wouldnt be in this situation now, it happened. That is, the child, the newborn child remained alive, if you wanted to get rid of the child and leave him alive, you just need to bring him to any medical institution, thats all, at least you will know that the child will remain alive, so she dealt with the issue of his life and death indifferent, she didnt care, she categorically disagreed, she disguised it as garbage just so it wasnt found because she wanted to throw it in the trash so it would look like trash. There was some kind of straightforward murder here, its monstrous in general, it just doesnt add up in my head how this is even possible, that is, this woman initially didnt even allow the thought that the child would live on, she hoped that he would suffocate, freeze and no one will find him, she wrapped him in a blanket so that it would be just inaudible, so that it would be logical when they turn him over into this container, so that god, i even i dont want to talk about it. The act, absolutely in terms of its cruelty, is truly beyond comprehension, so her motives, how it all happened, will be decisive in assigning her punishment. Court, thats why lets do everything to understand how this picture was formed, in any case, this is murder, this is a deliberate act, it doesnt matter, colleagues, lets do this, i understand your indignation and your position too, lets sort it out in order , indeed, ivan, how quickly the police arrived, the ambulance, the police literally arrived after 57 minutes, we were standing at the entrance, i suggested we go to my home, and by the way, why didnt you go home initially . As my friends told me that you cant take a newborn child without just like that, they were afraid to break the law, and so, you and the Police Officers ended up in your apartment, what happened there, we put the child on the sofa, i looked what it was boy, boy, literally five minutes later the ambulance staff arrived, and since you lived as an experienced father, his umbilical cord was somehow processed, sealed or there was blood on the tummy, there was an umbilical cord. And that is, i think he is a hero, his luck follows him, everything will be fine, it s actually just a big miracle that he wanted to live so much, that he showed these signs of life and sound, it saved him that he was still in a diaper, in a bag, right . Thats what there were no cooling factors in terms of wind, the baby is born, we immediately wrap him up, warm him up, so that he quickly adapts, lies on his mother, warms up from his mothers warmth, but here of course, well, its generally just ivan, but the place where you found the baby is a garbage container, they pick it up like this and throw it away, well, that is, an ordinary green container, here you found the baby. That if you hadnt heard the childs squeak, you would never have looked into the container, no , many people in your place said, well, the cat squeaks, the cat squeaks , well, the cat, well, okay, i went further, what can force a woman who carried this child under her heart for 9 months, who is her blood and flesh, whom she gave birth to this white light, throw it in the trash, i dont know like an empty bottle, i say, hands. Thank you very much for being there at the right time, at the right hour, thank god yes, i dont think this is a mother from a very prosperous rich family, i can tell you that our state now socially provides for a single mother with a newborn child is very dignified, so she knew very well what if. The child was thrown into the trash, he found out from social networks, Ivan Kolpakov and his wife lyudmila were in the studio. Hello, hello, ivan, so your motherinlaw saved your little one relative . Yes, i am very grateful to him, that is, if it werent for ivan, i cant imagine what would have happened to the child and survived. He in general, and is this the first time you ve seen ivan . Yes, ivana, i see it for the first time, thank you very much. Tell me, ivan, how did you find out about this terrible act of your niece . I found out from social networks, then, uh , my nephew said, until recently i didnt believe that she could do this, it became clear, that is, when. I saw the video from the conclusion, that is, the court room, that is, you saw her already in court , yes, and the camera surveillance, you saw what was recorded , the cameras recorded how the niece was walking, that is. That is, carrying a garbage bag in her hand, walked towards the garbage can, throws out the garbage bag and comes back, we have this video from surveillance cameras, this is your niece , yes, well, in general it looks like a rather routine trip to the trash heap, nothing. Anyway, she is carrying out the plan that she originally conceived, and these shots show this, her intention was precisely so that this child would not live, she is no longer afraid of any consequences, she has completed her mission, which she drew for herself. Grigory, do you think its hard to watch this video, because you realize that she is now carrying a living child in this garbage bag, and there are no excuses for this person, her behavior , in my opinion, absolutely shows that she really doesnt care whats there what was going on inside her, probably, this is one thing only she knows, probably some kind of torment, it seems to me, she must have had, so i expected it when we said yes, well, that is, i had no idea who it was, i think, some poor homeless woman, i dont know , a mentally downtrodden creature, well , just like that, yes, that is, im afraid, im afraid of a beaver, its a man, a woman , look, confident gait, look, sweeping step, look at how she goes back. Outside help, and what are the consequences for the health of both the child and the woman in this case . Well, in any case, there may be complications of bleeding, prolapse of umbilical cord loops , dislocation of the shoulders, anything, but blood poisoning, and sepsis, its not for nothing that when we deliver a baby in the maternity hospital, we monitor and for the condition of the mother, for the condition of the baby, these are two lives, this is so important, ivan, after giving birth he had some complications, yes, they could . They did some kind of surgery, it turns out, that is, an operation in the hospital to remove what was left after childbirth . Its possible that her placenta didnt come out completely, so there were some lobules left on the uterus, so she might have started an inflammatory process, so she had a cleaning done. Lyudmila, when you saw these shots, you also immediately recognized your husbands niece, but when she recognized her, you didnt believe it either, what could she have taken to the trash from. His child, and not the trash . No, after the news came here, somehow ivan, tell us about your niece, what is she like . She is a sympathetic person, that is, when she came to visit, she loved children very much, she brought, that is, a lot of gifts, the children were drawn to her, and she brought them to your children, yes, yes, she has a sister, that is, she too i spent a lot of time with her. That is, she really loves children, so i didnt even think that she could do that, she has i had a friend, she had four children, she babysat them all, babysat them all, and she also showered them with gifts. Ivan, did you know about your nieces pregnancy . No, i didnt know about the pregnancy, why, you didnt see each other, why did you see each other, well, that is, she didnt talk about it, we had her, well , she was always plump, the only thing i noticed was that she. Gained even more weight. Lyudmila, when was the last time you saw your niece . At the beginning of the month, on her birthday. Early february . Yes. Whats the date . First. Have you found the baby . When . Sixteenth. And really didnt notice anything . I asked her, i said, where have you gained so much weight, what . She answered me, i am on hormonal hormones. She probably always wore loose clothes to hide it. Yes, a down jacket, loose. I talked to her mother it turns out, that is , she didnt know about it either, i dont believe it at all, is she with her mother . She lived with whom she lived with whom she lived she lived alone in novosibirsk, rented an apartment, after her birthday she spent some time with her mother, her mother did not understand anything, well, it turns out no, she understood, of course, well, how can this be, maybe you dont understand how you can hide the ninth month of pregnancy, okay, your breasts are big, okay, youre obese, lets say, but pregnancy is impossible to hide, your stomach, your stomach is dull, but its impossible not to notice, especially woman. A woman, why not notice that she is pregnant, yes, any woman, a woman will always notice that she, i assume, that her mother told her, like shes been having fun, so figure it out yourself, this is how i see this situation, yes , they had a tense relationship , but her mother, tank, has a disease, and she also has a small child, that is, to say what kind of relationship they have, well, lately, well, you say, tense. After the city, she began to work, and she worked where, not when she was eighteen, she moved to another place, you know, she worked in bersk, as an administrator in a bar there or whatever its called , she lived on these funds, her mother did not help her, no, she helped her mother, but she had an education your niece is, she went to study law, but then she quit, that is, she went to work, lyudmila. And the last time you saw her, it was her birthday, yes, how is she did you behave specifically that day . She was withdrawn, you ask her, she always answered me im just tired, im working, i dont even have time to sleep, she seemed to be in such a state that she wanted to talk about something, as if, well, she wanted to talk, but didnt dare. Ivan, but you probably thought more than once why your niece did this, you can find at least some excuse, maybe that he did it and abandoned her, maybe so, she called her mom, shell say, mom, thats it yes, but she just answered her, figure it out right now, ivan, what are your sister s plans for this baby . She was collecting documents for guardianship, for temporary guardianship, for temporary guardianship, since she is sick, uh, that is, maybe later to apply for guardianship for her cousin. We all understand that a child with oncology will never be given away, in general, according to the law, when a child is placed somewhere, a written refusal is taken from all relatives stating that they do not want him for themselves, as if to accept him into the family. Who else doesnt believe that the mother deliberately got rid of her firstborn and is there any guilt in what happened . 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This is at the initial stage they may consider, again, if there is a refusal of other relatives to take this child, by the way, i see sincere concern from ivan and lyudmila. The conditions allow you to do this, the conditions , well, we have a threeroom apartment, of course , now while i have to do some repairs, i tore off all the wallpaper and everything for the repairs , if they give me such a chance to take the baby, at least you want it, i will really want to. We visited you to make sure that you can really be trusted with a child. Thirtyeightyearold lyudmila kolpakova shows his house in the village of vorobyovo, not far from novosibirsk. They have three rooms in total, but two of them are still being renovated. We are doing renovations, gradually room by room. We did it in the kitchen, now were starting to do it in the rooms. We have prepared the walls under the wallpaper, now we will purchase wallpaper and make repairs. First of all, the parents arranged their daughters bedroom. They bought her a desk, a computer for studying, a large sofa and a wall bars. There is a dispute, a Sports Complex in children, so they climb here, the girls have living creatures, they look after them, feed them, a tv , well, a sleeping place, a table, do homework here, the eldest daughter, where to put a crib and a changing table for the baby, a mother with many children has also already thought about it, the boy will live in the same room with the kolpakovs youngest son, thats all of us this. Weve removed the old stuff, well put up other wallpaper , the curtains will hang, everything will be fine, well put up a crib , well put up a changing table, well, everything we need, well do everything thats needed for the baby, well make a childrens corner here, well put toys here, there things, tatyana, how do you like them . Conditions for a newborn, everything is being improved, this is generally wonderful, yes , that they take care that there are good conditions, i think, is decisive. And the fact that the children that this couple has are in proper conditions, yes , because we understand that, according to the family code, responsibility for the life, health, education, and safety of the child will rest with them, if the guardianship considers that they will provide, everything is possible, ivan, to your niece, what are your feelings now . Feel sorry for me, that is, what then happened . To my cousins niece since childhood , as you say, i observed the relationship between my niece and her mother, the relationship was not like that of a mother and daughter, she received too little attention from her, the child came from school, came, lives in the village, but she studied in a workingclass village, she still had to get home, she didnt change her clothes, didnt eat, right away, go wash the dishes, sweep the floors, did her mother force her . And take care of your little sister, change clothes, take a walk, get started, wait, its like a housekeeper, yes, everything that concerned younger sister, the eldest did all this for her, and my niece treated my daughter with the same reverence, the same reverence, even i never worried that something would go wrong with them, i knew that im a child, ill feel perfectly comfortable there, theyll give me a walk, feed me, give me something to drink, put me to bed, have fun and. Its amazing. Olga, how can it be that a girl treated her sister with warmth, care, and affection. And this is what she did to her own child, throwing it away. The girl was abandoned, she was abandoned, in a very difficult situation in life, everyone abandoned her, that is, she was thrown out figuratively, she literally throws away her child. I dont make excuses for her. There are still people who could see, hear, help, somehow orient her, direct her somewhere, somehow support her, there could be a whole set of things that led to this and relationships. Mother, and the relationship with the biological father, and the fear of public, condemnation, and some internal psychological problems, all this could have been the motivating and uh determining motives for committing this crime. Julia, was your eldest daughter a welcome child for your cousin . Yes, she was a wanted child, because my sister s first child died tragically, with. Accordingly, they are the next child, and what happened to the first one, she fed the baby, put her in the crib, went to do household chores, the child choked on vomit masses, what a horror, but if you say that the girl was desired, why then was there such an attitude towards her, well because the girls mother and father separated, then she began to arrange her own personal life. Maybe your niece was just a difficult , uncontrollable child, all teenagers have a complex character, i believe that it is not impossible not to find an approach to your own child, well, you told your sister , that well, you cant do that with a girl, we talked and we talked more than once, to which my sister made it clear to me that she would figure it out on her own, but since at that time i had no experience in raising a teenager, i understood that, well, my mother is probably my mother, she will probably send me i didnt want to spoil the forest soon. Close relationship with her sister, the niece did not experience negativity, jealousy towards her younger sister, who received more attention, no, she is an incredibly kind person, kind, very kind, thats when you understand, here i come to visit, well, youll come up to everyone, youll hug, you kissed me when you came up to me , you didnt hug me, i thought she would come into my soul , thats what she wanted, you pressed her, stroked her head, she didnt leave, she didnt want to leave i. Of course i understand that she committed a crime with her own hands , i cant understand why this happened, i literally learned on the 22nd from my brother ivan that at the beginning of february my nephew lived with her mother for a week, what could have happened there, i cant know, because i have no contact with my sister, she simply abstracted herself from everyone, there is no connection. Tell me, as a mother, seeing her daughter in labor, yes, in the ninth month, she could not help but notice it, she could not help but notice, you are now talking about this womans mother, but still, how can seeing this baby, this little face, nose, you could wrap it in a blanket, then in a bag, then in another bag, calmly take it to the trash, you are now. Probably seeing this baby for the first time, but what emotions, its very difficult, looking at the photo you understand that its in the bag like that, the photo still doesnt convey the cold 26, yes i understand, thank you, here is ivan, lyudmila, but your heart is not bleeding, looking at this photo, it is pouring, pouring, this is your blood , your relative, your grand nephew, right . Never seen before boy, no, such a cute little boy, can you imagine what would have happened if ivan, well, miraculously had not passed by, heard this cry, waved his hand away, thought that it was a cat meowing, this wonderful, beautiful baby simply did not have without a chance to live, he would not have had a future, we are sincerely grateful to you, thank you very much. Thank you very much, the further the program goes, the stronger the dissonance in me from the description of your niece, your relative, as a kind, bright, good person, yes, who was pressed by her mother and didnt treat her the way a mother should treat her daughter, but how could this lead to throwing her child in the trash . I dont understand this, ill never understand, yulia, why did my niece start living alone at the age of 18 . What . You know about this, she stopped fully complying with her mothers demands, she was simply kicked out, she became an adult, live her life, solve her problems herself. What happened next, my niece, she just studied during the day, worked at night, lived for some time, lived with her grandparents, another situation, you know what, my sister had such a principle, dont tell anyone anything, if there is some problem in the family, this problem should remain only in the family, ill give an example when my sister found out about her diagnosis of oncology, i consider myself a close person to her, i found out about this. Then, when she had already had an operation, and do you think that your sister could force her niece to hide the child, get rid of the child, eliminate this problem, maybe, as it seemed to her, yes , dont disgrace yourself, dont disgrace yourself or me. Alina, you dont see the guilt of the rest of those around her , loved ones, relatives who, well , didnt take any measures, didnt build relationships with her, didnt help, didnt guide her, and so on and so forth, but everyone sees that. 18 years old girl, and her own mother puts her out the door, she is forced to rent an apartment , the person is pregnant for 9 months, they met and no one saw, you havent met in 9 months or something, i say with my niece, they knew that on birthday 2 weeks before giving birth and those people those who were personally present at the birthday parties and saw her in person say that they did not notice that she was pregnant. Its visible not only from the stomach, its visible from the facial features, from the gait, im just trying to understand, grigory, do you agree with alina that there is some kind of family indifference here, but absolutely, absolutely, as i say, thats the main word for me i dont care, today, its for the child, the mother for the daughter, and so on, and im very glad that there are those who dont give a damn. Ivan, thank you, confession of the ex boyfriend to the detainee, why they broke up, new details immediately after the advertisement , so that rumors that the empire is heirless, yulia peresilt, are you ready to serve me with faith, truth, as you once served my father, piman, ivan, ibor, empresses, in honor of womens day, the film great women, 8 march at 15 15 on ntv. Stars. Premiere. On saturday at 21 20 on ntv. Someone is always in a hurry to help. Aim exactly for the pain. Knee pain, back pain, neck pain, it doesnt matter. The shoulder may give out. 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Ru, vtb is a bank for your business, or maybe you and i should also open an account at vtb . She probably couldnt even think that someone could help her. Yul, do you think the niece should be punished for her actions. I think she needs to be given a chance, she needs help, some kind of psychological help first of all. By committing this crime, she doomed herself to the end, we dont know what kind of prayer she doomed ivana to, we know what the term is the niece faces from 12 years to more than twenty years. We have a comment from. On february 16 , 2024 , novosibirsk Law Enforcement agencies received information about a baby found in a trash container. Police and investigators immediately arrived at the scene. They conducted an inspection and began looking for witnesses. Soon the Law Enforcement officers traced the unborn mother. Thanks to the competent work of investigators, forensic investigators from the Investigative Committee in the region, and operational officers of the ministry of internal affairs of russia in the novosibirsk region. As part of a criminal investigation case, on the fact of the attempted murder of a newborn child in the city of novosibirsk, previously initiated on the grounds of a crime provided for in part three of article thirty, paragraph b, part two of article 105 of the criminal code of the russian federation, the murder of a minor, his twentytwoyearold mother was detained. At the moment , the woman has been charged. The court chose a preventive measure for her in the form of detention. The accused was unable to explain her actions. Why is that . Happened that they decided to take the child to the trash heap, maybe maybe the guy left what happened, the father of the child knows that you gave birth , you regret what happened, yes, alina, from these shots you got the impression that the girl repents, no, no, absolutely not, she feels sorry for herself, no, she just doesnt understand what she has completed, she understands, stop making excuses. The second article 105 is premeditated murder, a maximum penalty of up to 20 years is provided, a criminal case has been initiated through article thirty, that is, the attempt will indicate that the child still survived, yes death did not occur, therefore the crime was not completed, the punishment here, which is provided for by the sanction of the article, is 15 years of imprisonment, there are two very similar articles, one article provides for liability. If im not mistaken, from 12 years, the second to 3 years 9 months, can you comment on what the difference is between these articles . The difference is in the article, that is, in the first case , which we just talked about, this is what i said, regarding 15 years old and from 12, yes, 105, the second, it provides for punishment for the murder of a young child or person obviously in a helpless state, there is a state of illness, and so on, but for the person who commits in relation. Murder in a state of psychologically traumatic situation, there is a month after giving birth in a state of mental, temporary mental disorder, which does not provide for insanity, the people who will take up her defense, of course, will now try to make sure that either the investigation reclassifies, or this case goes to trial reclassified from the grave elements of part two 105, that the father of her child is actually married, that he she is abandoned, that her mother is kicking her out, one very important thing, after all, the criminal law, in addition to the fact that it punishes, it must carry a powerful preventive message to society, and the fact that now this is part two 105 murder. Those who ever get into their heads, at least the idea of ​​doing this , should know that this is a minimum of 12 years, that this is a serious crime, that this is murder, now it turns out that this is a minimum term of up to 5 years, and there the conditions will work out somehow, that is, well, this is a paradox, just ivan, you heard what our experts say, are you still counting on a more lenient punishment for your niece, or that same article of 12 years, if she deserves that article, which. From 12 years, then so be it, he insists, that the girl after giving birth was not aware of her actions. In the studio vladimir gogolev. Hello, hello, vladimir. Are you also a member of the family . Yes, i am a family member, a distant relative of the girl, i have known the family for more than 10 years. Why are you sure that the mother could not consciously leave hers . Child to die, well because i myself, the father of two children, when my wife had her first child, she was pregnant, then after giving birth she had depression, well , mood swings, i supported her, and who will support the girl, she is completely alone , swings, i cant refuse, we everyone here is women, we have mood swings, we went and killed our children, i have a mood swing, today is an important moment, you want to say that the grandmother, the mother of this woman is to blame for the fact that her grandson. Ended up in the trash heap, yes, i think so, she constantly trimmed her hair, she constantly used it, that is, she constantly took care of her sister, but why do you think she didnt go from her mother to the maternity hospital, didnt ask for help from the doctors, didnt call an ambulance, she left there, did what she did, what happened there, well i think my mother simply reacted to this, how to say , didnt give a damn about her, probably kicked her out, most likely, because she, she kicked her out before, sent her to freedom, as they say, because of. The expression, and at the same time discharged her she was left without registration without anything, she was written out, this is not a sufficient reason in order to take, put the child, and even take him out into the prison, what are we talking about, who will tell him what, a former guy, detained, leonid gogolev, came to us. Leonid, you are not the father of the child, who is ours; at that time he had already separated a long time ago; i am married. When did you stop being this womans boyfriend . In 2019, i started dating her, the same year i broke up with her. How did you meet her . The girl went to see relatives, people, aunts. And my younger cousins ​​were there, she has a younger sister, she took care of her, everywhere i walked with her, well, like with my own child, that is, when you met, you could imagine this girl as your future wife, i liked the fact that she treats children well, from whom did you learn that your exgirlfriend left her child in the trash, and brother vladimir, he showed me a video, i started to not believe that it was. She cant wrap her head around it all, it still doesnt fit, no, what kind of relationship did you have with your girlfriends mother, i didnt have any relationship with her, because she was with me treated the girl favorably , bullied the girl, even kicked her out at the age of 18 , she ends up alone in an unfamiliar city, when you met her, she was not hottempered, no, she was kind, good, not complaining about the match, constantly with tears in her eyes, who do you feel more sorry for, your ex . Should this be done consciously or due to some kind of mental disorder . Nikolay, we really need to figure out what prompted her to do this, maybe we are talking about some kind of effect after childbirth depression, we also heard about this, yes, this is not excluded such moments, therefore, based on the conclusion of a psychiatric examination psychologist, conclusions will be drawn, that is, about the state of sanity, whether she was in. Well, why am i saying that it is not excluded, you know, well, for me this is just wildness, but here we are talking, what we are talking about, but a normal person cannot do this, what awaits the miraculously surviving babies, we will continue after a short advertisement. A resident of the kastorom region considers herself the eleventh child of a large kurochkin family from the village of izvara. My last name is either kukushkin or kurochkin. They found out that yulia was from a large family, but in izvara the family lived not of the kurochkin family, but of the kuritsyn family. We were all loaded onto a bus and taken to the hospital. And the children from the kuritsyn family themselves do not know how many of them their mother had. Homes and foster families, most likely i was the youngest, this is my sister, olya, no, this brother is not very similar, i am from their family, my ears were protruding, it looks like with him, i open the envelope, dna, today in 17 50 on ntv. 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Doctors assured that the baby was receiving all the necessary medical care. Thanks to the qualified help of doctors, his life is not in danger. The boy is surrounded by kindness and care. By medical personnel. Ekaterina, it is very touching that even the investigators did not remain indifferent; therefore, we see in the photograph how a Law Enforcement officer is holding a child in his arms. Theres also the story itself, its such that you want to feel sorry for him, hug him and somehow to compensate for the tragedy that happened to him in the life of a child this is your sacred right, this is a miracle of birth, this must be treasured, you must protect this later with nothing, you will never compensate for this. Absolutely, so we have to fight for his life, its an opportunity, you gave him life, give him the opportunity to continue this life, even if not with you, but let him live. Valentina, what can be done to prevent these situations from happening again . Any hotline of any ministry, even the ministry of education, even the ministry of internal affairs, even social services, anyone, in any city, but all the infrastructure has been created, and a network of public organizations, but in the end, well, you live in a society, dear girls, please give birth. There are a lot of families who will raise him, there are a lot of institutions where you can bring him, give him away, you live with people who are ready to share this pain, there are a lot of such people. Nikolai, what will happen to the boy, what awaits him after he undergoes treatment, recovers, where will he be assigned . There are relatives who expressed a desire and told us that they want to formalize guardianship, i believe that here this guardianship will definitely be formalized and he will get a family, let them. Time come to your senses and express such a desire, yes, well, yes, within the framework of moderation, well, it seems simple, it seems, this is impossible, because the child does not have a birth certificate, she is not registered as a mother, she has no rights, not to mention that she will be deprived, if she committed a crime, she will actually have a judicial ban, in the sense what are we talking about, how will she be seen, she is not registered the child, this is all clear , accordingly, now there is a legal procedure ahead, this is the establishment of the fact of his birth, where it will be necessary to determine his name, his surname and his patronymic, the parents will in the future have every right to allow her to see the child or not allow it, it will be entirely up to them, whether it will be useful for the child, this is a big question, let it grow and develop