Transcripts For RT Documentary 20180211

Fully capable of flying and of landing on one engine thats a flight that flight situation the pilots regularly train for a regular prepared for and one off engine failure usually while it doesnt lead to an emergency situation it doesnt lead to a catastrophic emergency situation so whatever happened there obviously went beyond just the simple engine failure so we are getting updates to see if those black boxes are found as well the recordings they will be key to identifying what exactly went on in the final minutes of that on sort of plane thats going to be one of the first things investigators go full first of all its to find the bodies and an absolute passengers in the crew there but of course the high on the priority list every time is that voice data recorder to information boxes generally want to play not that i guess this will be as simple as modern plane theres the flight data recorder which tracks that the tech of the plane what it was doing at the time and theres the flight voice recorder that this is noise in the cockpit basically to try and piece together what the pilots was. And the investigators if those boxes havent been too badly damaged and just look at some of the pictures they were showing as well view is there really the only pictures from at the moment on twitter for firms new stuff but its the same one thats going around it you would think you would hope that because that plane was only at six thousand four hundred meters at the time i like the full work up there at thirty forty thousand feet that the flight data recorders may have survived it doesnt its quite difficult to see how much of a fire theres been there because were only seeing one bit of wreckage theres another see more pictures now of the fire crews their emergency crews but again no idea visually of the wreckage there or that or the scale of it all the site just this one that we keep looping around and still early days we are getting some news in from one of the rescue agencies regarding the weather conditions and as we said while they were tough in moscow over the last few days you are getting a quote here coming in that meterological conditions could not have been the reason of the catastrophe just translated from russian as they go along here the ram it is of the temperature of the air. And the atmosphere with an orm so where the conditions are being ruled out at this point of course that could change once the rescuers get to the wreckage scene and see whats going to done with that every airport website says that if youve got the more luck than me that i want to try and find out we know the flight number is six w seven o three. Taking off an initially i thought around two oclock noon local time which was. Five hours ago was supposed six hours ago now what were talking about about two hours ago was ago and it was flying toward weve got the right flight number there are just very interested to see what domodedovo airport is saying about it youve been and you need look like im getting islands here from from some Russian Media who are reporting that the images here of relatives turning up at the airport obviously in panic trying to. Find out what exactly is going on from what we understand on the ground from these eyewitnesses from the relatives there is very Little Information coming out of the airport right now even for people that are there it will take a while for them certainly to put out a statement to get on line in the meantime of course president putin has already expressed his condolences to the relatives and the loved ones of those victims and he has already ordered a special commission to be set up to look into the exact reasons of the catastrophe usual procedure in russia or in the case of such a disaster. Weve not heard yet of any. Lines of help being opened for friends and family the loved ones are there any numbers are to be published for you to contact if you simply go to the airport we do have one from the m two yes thats the Emergency Ministry of russia they have put up a hotline and they have opened a base if you like for relatives that can come to the airport to get more information and recently kevin information coming in literally in the last eleven twelve minutes or so weve got reports from some newspapers interfax its a big russian paper again indicating that there was a wide a large number of post found at the area mailboxes mail letters etc scattered around the crash site people in fact initially thought this was a post postal played out a passenger plane but i guess that mail gets thrown to russia or its carried on internal domestic flights a year but whats interesting is news of course unverified reports as of yet we need to see what the rescuers say what they are and see what unverified reports that some sort of parts from a helicopter have been found near a nearby as well that was a postal copter whether that had anything to do with what are we getting again this is total speculation this is the first ive heard of this some parts potentially youre thinking here on the site from another plane from another from another aircraft thats right another aircraft could have been some sort of midair collision here that was. Be one of the theories the rescuers are looking at that would explain the erratic movements of the plane if it was trying to avoid a midair collision he was dying of. It would explain the fire just simply we do not know and this is the first im just putting two and two together making six but thats a very interesting line it may explain a lot so tell me a bit more you can read the russian was much better than me because you fluent in it tell me little bit more about whats coming out here now but this post element of it lets pick this apart a bit more what that was a helicopter belonging to the post of russia like would have royal mail in the u. K. Etc they use helicopters fairly frequently to cover the very large distances actors remote areas its a common. A common sight in russia theyre reporting the wreckage that they found at the site it doesnt only belong to the site of one for eight there is wreckage belonging to another aircraft and that aircraft could may at this point were going to have to stress strongly this isnt verified as of yet it may belong to a post of russian helicopter that could indicate one of two things really kevin either a midair collision or the plane coming down in a void a midair collision that somehow affecting the flight path of the helicopter as well as we say until rescuers get on scene these things are tracked even if its a helicopter its still on the flight radar air Traffic Controllers know folliot i mean weather balloons these days are tracked on their own flight absolutely. But its interesting that you say that that line will look. Earlier on i talked to jerry so yeah man hes an independent aviation specialist now these were early days this is changing of course as we go along now we may have this new line now we dont know but this is what he had to say about it is initial thought just about half an hour ago it doesnt look like there was media. And. He doesnt see the six thousand feet and we need. There are the recordings you lunch so its still a bit questionable what really happened in a single engine failure not bring the plane down even a double failure should have enough time for the crew to notify the agency and if possible find a place to put it down to pull the aircraft down and in a more of a controllable fashion but you know even the reports saying that you know unlikely people who survive we can suspect that its a pretty catastrophic impact it is a new design its you know and one of claims as it was. On how modern it is to the western counterparts it is flat well wire across just ask this but again we this is also one of the flights that was. That russia and the ukraine hoped on to get commercial success and also era this is the what we call the Second Generation also get a. Lot more coming on the story here about International Stay with us if you can as more details were so fortunate crash come forward im kevin owen thanks for your company then among the other headlines were covering as well thousands of children struggling to get basic medical care in iraq according to unicef well talk about that after a short break. From my mommy war and entertainment have become good in our culture and weve had children grow up playing playing war games on the computer war has somehow been to mystic hated as entertainment to russia just theres nothing funny about it it is so serious russia will be the last to give up Nuclear Weapons because russia regards Nuclear Weapons as the battle. Against inflation or war but this period covered it in the form of. Hey everybody im stephen bob. Hollywood. Proud american interests George Washington and r. V. This is my buddy max the famous financial guru is a little bit different. With all the drama happening in our country im good to have some fun every day americans. And the stork to bridge the gap this is the great american. Plane crash shortly but next around seven hundred fifty thousand children are struggling to get basic medical services in the war torn iraqi city of mosul thats according to the u. N. Childrens rights body unicef an estimated seventy four Million Dollars is needed to rebuild Health Facilities for children there seven months after the euphoria that greeted the liberation of mosul from Islamic State that iraqi cities struggling to get back on its feet. But. There are other shargel for it. The number of. Health care centers or hospitals is very limited the extent of the damage has affected it i was there in one of the Health Centers the other day the one family came in with their baby is a two month old baby they wanted a vaccinated there was vaccine there was everything there and starts were seeing over one hundred children a day were able to vaccinate this child but those families have to walk far i also saw the baby unit there were nine incubate has six of which which were filled with premature babies who would not have survived unless those incubate as with their its a wide area wide level of levels of devastation families have to walk enormous distances to be able to get the health care what were saying is that the Cumulative Health care that is required of any child anywhere else in the world is not available yet in mosul. More than half a year since his liberation the city remains strewn with corpses to this awful picture a warning it may find some of the following seems distressing. The condition of many of the bodies is making it difficult to confirm their identities of course theres all this time on most of the victims appear to be civilians women children elderly people residents are calling on the government to do something about the situation given the risks their health for everyone else still left their unicefs representative in iraq Peter Hawkins described the situation in mosul as more than worry. I think what we need to understand is the extent of the problem this is a massive city mosul city probably faced one of the biggest urban warfare since World War Two and. Two point two million to two point four Million People affected its have been an enormous challenge for everybody to try and clear everything up and get the people working again. Its quarter to five in the afternoon moscow time thanks but without international is kevin though in the studio here initially it was going to bring in the weekly our stories of the big stories a last ten days as we do every sunday afternoon but stories overtaken it will be our breaking news thats coming from russia this afternoon dan hawkins is here to take it through it as well to across the wires of what was coming up in russia you can read in quicker than me down. The brace a good story is as you can see a plane with sixty five passengers and six crew on board has crashed in the last hour or so just outside moscow just minutes after it took off got to about six thousand four hundred feet we think these are the first pictures now that have come back from the scene as you can see the weather very inclement its been snowing really heavily here in moscow for the last week or so today not too bad the video was apparently shot by locals you can only get to the actual site of where this plane is come down about sixty kilometers southeast of moscow in a Little Village called are going over by foot you cant actually drive that weve just parked our senior correspondent. To go down there most of the service is really struggling to reach the scene now dan really quick chat about this latest line that we talked about but by the way this was flight number six w seven o three. Flown by surat off airways taking off from don whatever to a place called or ski down just that line coming in that initial rescue is thinking this seeing other plane pass other than this airplane involved the antonov a n one for a. From surat of airways thinking there may have seen a lot of post and maybe parts of the helicopter that literally just coming out within like five minutes or so ago when you when you read the wire any more on that it could be here it could be something it could be nothing maybe it was some part code in the plane we dont know it could be it could be a lead as we say kevin until rescuers get to the side and do a full examination its hard to say post as you say is carried on domestic tunnels flights to russia or its utilized because of the sheer size of the country but one of the leads that is being put up by some media sources and verified as of yet is that other. Other Aircraft Parts have been found at the crash site not belonging to this and. One for eight aircraft it could have been some sort of helicopter possibly looking into the post of russia and verified sources as of yet but certainly one theory investigators will be looking into just just one feed you seen on it in time what youre looking at. No you said just now authorities theyve opened a criminal investigation as they always do its the way things happen here in russia when an accident happens immediately so this is the investigation physically get on with it and and the legal stuff covered as well. Authorities saying they dont think although the weather was bad that it was a weather related problem here russian policy used to fly in is most the time in l. A. In the winter but no more on the other line no more no oil no so far hard to say what what are the lines that could be at this stage relatively new plane where the condition is not critical not catastrophic weather conditions obviously all theories being looked at but its all a bit of a mystery right now kevin as well as the flight path of course we spoke about earlier of the plane minus for that. The flight path rising to that height of one thousand eight hundred meters with a speed of six hundred kilometers as you quite rightly said a normal height although speed for takeoff was in an area rush is about because its at the time when the engines are given that maximum power to lift it up i mean that would still be going up to what thirty forty thirty five thousand feet or suppose someone even an internal flight so its still in the. High power mode but even if. Engine disintegrates or theres some problem with a fan blade or whatever happens all the time you read aviation herold are there all the time. Planes generally can get away with it they can fly on one engine they can do an emergency descent julian braze on the line hes an aviation expert jillian hi thanks for coming on a short notice again the fortunate thing is a cause of they are so im sure the fortunate thing is of course when you drop in a short notice its all was over bad news and this is concerning flight six w seven o three an internal russian flight today heading from drama dead of an airport one of moscows three main airports down to the southeast of the border in russia a place called or schizo city there sixty five passengers six crew on board every time this happens we say what could have gone so badly wrong yes its too early to say whats gone wrong here but interesting were hearing this one line at least that theres been a lot of post found around this area. And again crucial here this other line that there could be helicopter parts around that area as well. What do you think about that could it possibly have been that the plane crashed with a helicopter at that altitude is that the altitude that the helicopters fly up for one. Oh yes the point is we dont know and its all pure speculation at the moment so i understand there is some video footage of these parts and so it could be unrelated or course it could actually be carrying created helicopter parts inside the aircraft the antonov is a good old work calls the ensign all day and one for eight and so its as you say its use of my old its also used for cargo and its widely used inside russia by all the by their Regional Airlines and my understanding is that she left moscow then something happens now and i understand that there are no survivors at the moment. Yet its not official there were sixty five passengers and six crew but initial reports but from the scene suggest be very little hope of any survivors sadly yeah that is the way it looks so the official position is that were still searching were not in a recovery mode so we are still looking for survivors and it could well be that some people have managed to get clear of the recreational to the point is this is a as you say a fairly new aircraft and the maintenance on it will be fairly straightforward being a new ish aircraft and they dont seem to be any concerns these days about the reach a land line that actually carries out the safety concern over some other very lines a year or two ago it seems that was resolved but for a while they stopped them flying into europe you know nothing about what i was about as yes so yes there was and there was a that was an investigation as i understand it some people were fired and the Senior Management actually said they were going to put everything right because youre quite right unless your at your airplanes are properly maintained they wont be allowed to fly so the point is that having no point having grounded aircraft if youre running an airline. And so that seems at the result and theres no doubt theres been inspections ever since so they will be on notice that those inspections will be taking place but the point is that. While theyre still searching for survivors so chin for the wreckage they need to find out why this. Has gone the way it has to be looking at the other aircraft in their sleep to see whether theres any intelligence so they can actually put together really only julie just while youre there dan holkins is in the studio a correspondent fluent russian can read it much better than me much quicker and a lot of the information is coming out of course is in russian he got a new line we do have a couple of updates coming in this is they werent actually from the post of russia in response to the media speculation the media news about a helicopter being in the region their press services said we dont have helicopters in of fleet we only have a couple of planes therefore theyve said theyve ruled out from their side at least the possibility that this could have been a post of Russia Helicopter that doesnt mean there was they had a copter but the post of russia have officially did point out this isnt correct these media reports so thats something to bear in mind here just a question about the weather conditions here as you know obviously as kevin said those very heavy in russia believe the figure was one hundred twenty percent of the months snow fall for about two days or easier or three days but as far as im aware that would only affect the plane upon the actual takeoff of the plane is taken off successfully that should affect the plane in mid flight should it. You say it shouldnt but however weather conditions there ian day you might have noticed in the Winter Olympics say its got very high winds at the moment so where is mine they could possibly thing the thing they call wind shear where the wind just suddenly goes straight up and alters the characteristics of the plane also we have to consider whether its icing whether they promptly ice the plane before it left moscow it could be that so ice built out very quickly on the wings and that might affect the flying it dilutes the of the plane these are all considerations that have to be part of the overall investigation its pure speculation at the moment yes julian down out of the line about the flight path earlier on looking at flight radar tracker got the six thousand four hundred feet in this initial climb but then were hearing it drop and then climbed again down just put more on the party but to julian to see again initial thought. According to these flight trackers of course that one hundred percent reliable but they give a bit of an indication perhaps of what was happening climbed to one thousand eight hundred meters with the speed of six hundred Kilometers Per Hour as far as i understand thats a normal speed for a plane of that type drop to a spiritual but the height of one thousand five hundred meters then rose back to the original. Height one thousand eight hundred and then dived right down very rapidly indeed so could better be there when she you think youre talking about potentially julian maybe or does that sound old plausible. It does sound highly plausible because weve had other incidents where this is happened so it could well be the wind shear or it could well be that they did actually have a problem with the engines itself it could well be that the fuels i start the fuel lines of lots theres a any number of things that will have to be investigated because what were going to look for now were still in recovery were not were still in the search mode not recovery mode but sooner or later the black boxes which are actually painted bright orange will it will appear and this will give you that data recorder from the flight deck we all know that he kind of well did happen from a kind of altitude disposed to pending on the severity of the crash and from that kind of altitude theres not maybe as high as it was it would have been if he got to his cruising like are they likely to survive to be two wouldnt flight data recorder for the tech side and another one separately the flight voice recorder thats tracking with the pilots are saying it two separate boxes. Thats right on the call so when you marry them together youll have the complete picture of whats been happening to act aircraft during the crucial take all hear it and eventually well whatever the recordings start and its very important this is done is done very carefully so that will be the first thing they will try and find apart from actually rescuing any survivors and so it is a very difficult area im to stand so somehow theyve got to get the assets into the area so they can actually properly map how to find out exactly whats happening and as you say very heavy snow there ive seen some footage shot by local and already the parts that are shown completely covered by snow and its still snowing indeed as we speak this happening about fifty kilometers from where our studios are in central moscow here julian thanks for much coming to shore notice Aviation Security Airlines Operations expert i was good to see you on the program usually as a same tragic circumstances. Thank you for watching us as well coverage continues on this big story intertwined with a look back at some of the other big news of the last seven days as well in the weekly but the main news as you can see on your screen there on that red ticker is that an internal passenger plane flight as it crashed today we think seventy one crew and passengers have perished they will bring you more on it after the break you. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to guest on the world of politics sports business im show business ill see you then. Ran out of the book upload the best out of the jaws with. The concepts i was preparing to perform i had actually prepared myself to die i. Dont know so i need what i do know sorry trust me. As most of. You. In the homo stuff her come out. This country was. Really good so. Well see if you think. It was any good with us here. Yes get more deep machine. To machine a couple so kind of toilet b. S. Ive heard that. In america a College Degree requires a great deal. Paying a decades long debt. Studying so hard it requires trying to. Go through humiliation to enter an elite society. And paci to dance sometimes quite literally. Want other true colors of universities in the us. Thats in american interests to not see any russians die in terrorist attacks as it is in russian interest to prevent any terrorist attacks in the United States or elsewhere in the world so i dont think theres any dispute on that in congress and i think maybe some of the posturing is frankly political as opposed to substantive. Its five pm here in moscow this sunday afternoon this is r. T. International one story breaking news you can see on your screens a passenger plane the seventy one people on board has crashed shortly after it socalled from moscow down the dead of International Airport earlier this afternoon we think its left no survivors you fortys are investigating all possible channels to establish exactly what went so badly on. My very good afternoon kevin owen and hawkins in the studio downs cross all the lines a lot of this story