A very very good party is going to. Vote. Because thats where they get most of its. As when they got rid of the moment now or is johnson hes not entirely trustworthy on. About. Injuring with the Political Polarization that. You would drool agreement and the political their liberation doesnt really mean anything its the road remember thats legally binding and thats what the problem is. His election hes been elected to. The un. And to say that stories from electoral. Ok let me go to lee here but lee when a good guess really the biggest problem in dealing with brags that at least when it comes to parliament is that both parties were divided on the issue within each party here can Boris Johnson unite the tories because if he can do that he might be able to poach from people across the aisle as it were here it really gets down to how he manages the party in my not correct go ahead lee well it does if youre playing fantasy politics if youre playing real politics then you know that the irish backstop the European Union is implacable position. And you know the record of mendacity and tomfoolery of Boris Johnson then you really wouldnt put your house on the boris being able to unify either his party or the country there are lots of people in the tory party with deep emotional scars from previous encounters with Boris Johnson some of whom are sitting around the cabinet table. Cabinet full of deeply ambitious and venal politicians boris being the lead cheerleader amongst them but the extent to which he could maintain unity within that cabinet under the sweltering pressure that hes going to come under in brussels and the European Union i think will not unite the tory party but will break it into mark the same question here i mean i think we have a new personality ok at 10 downing street but i dont see the strategy moving forward ok to resume he says to resumes which are all deal is dead ok so what is his deal they can appeal to not only his own party but to the public at large i mean i studied this very carefully im actually getting very bored with it because i dont see the needle being moved here what can he do that no one else has done mark. Ah well he can certainly do something. Nobody elses turn and that is he can prove either to be false or true the position that hes put forward to his party in the British Public and that position is that the reason may only fail because she didnt really believe in black sets and so far i think people on both sides of the aisle on this question probably have reason to be satisfied about what how things are going because hes assembled a team virtually every single one of whom wholeheartedly seem to believe or say they believe in brets it so lets see what happens bring it on and i think that obviously the downside of this is that if there is. No deal broke set and parliament is sidelined that we have all sorts of terrible constitutional issues that might happen i think in the end that mr johnson is not the kind of person who will be able to do that kind of thing i think that hes going to go to brussels his real tactic here his strategy is to hope that people in the e. U. Think heres a man who really knows what hes talking about rather who believes in what hes talking about so for once were going to have to really negotiate seriously this is where everything comes to the crunch whereas mrs may we managed to fob her off hes hoping that theyll be movement within the. Process and that he wont therefore have to go through with the no no deal threat so in terms of the unity however i think that the danger for people moderate people in the conservative party is that theyre going to be accused of being defeatists and not patriotic thats mr johnsons card hes talking up all this optimism isnt stuff daring his critics to say to produce reasons for not being quite so mindlessly optimistic and he will then turn around and say to the British Public these are people who dont believe in your country and that is a car that will work very well in england it will work very poorly in scotland and Northern Ireland. Not the voters it seems quite a lot of them like to distort distortions of reality ok well you know you can you can have you know you could have been through z. As i may certainly has that he said we need optimism he certainly has that but james how does that make briggs it happened i mean the European Union all through this process and i think to resume was the worst person to negotiate because she was a remainder and that why did you said to remain there to do brags that i mean that was ridiculous ok and we got it and she deserved her fate ok but the European Union is going to make this is painful as possible for you guys and i dont see why they get to change their tune i mean they can they broke her and they want to break him if necessary go ahead james well everyone talks about their eyes met his red line and you had any red lines that you went to brussels and. Yes of course the e. U. Wants to make this thing. Either create a situation where doesnt or you get name. Which is what is. The. Drop becomes. The imposition of trade barriers between terrorists. Ok why do they want to do that while the e. U. Was already in a trice. Before we proceed to leave. It was in a crisis because North Western countries the wealthy. North west and. Some in europe and Eastern Europe in the republican model and colonies and theres a lot of and there are a lot of political reasons or cultural. Barriers. And so it was already in a crisis and it gets out. And then cross and the might there may be other countries who might want to undermine the end that is the reason why one of the reasons why the e. U. Wants to make this is painful as possible we i mean they always go back to the default position of w t o rules ok i mean if Boris Johnson wants to succeed and i have to believe he wants. To do much better than to resume when you were assigned an entire group of people to work with that goal of w t o rules because there are good theres not going to be another deal the deal is that the European Union is going to accept is already on the table the parliament has dismissed it 3 times Boris Johnson isnt going to go down that path i mean what new dispy saying we have a Kitchen Cabinet its a deputy oh rules work on it youve got 99 days go ahead lee. I dont think so i think were w t o rules. Are no deal hard brick say and they would be only to the only country in the world operating on the meet those rules and they are sob each in their implications for the country so he asked a realistic option a toll and i also think that the extent to which you know the kind of xenophobia sentiment we see abroad for Little England plucky spending against the assembled holds of the European Union with their. You know paneuropean genda is a is a a a scenario that has been developed and pursued in and propagandized in the British Press the decades and funny enough it will be the kind of irrationality that flows from such sentiment that will see this country commit economic suicide by electing a Prime Minister whos not only incompetent as hes recorded in the london shows us but has an opportunity of such grand proportions that even his brother joe johnson who resigned over the brecht seat was pretty convinced by Boris Johnson to come back in government and its partly signed up to probe resi agenda so here we have the chance and poise who can spin around on any given issue 360 degrees in a heartbeat and both obviously like sacrifice the Economic Prosperity of the nation that they said let me just up this conclusion the tories are not even following the global big business agenda because if the tories were following that agenda here have some rationale in terms of their ideological position and their long Time Association as being the big hitters for big business now even though Boris Johnson is waving Corporate Tax cuts in front of them this is. Paling to significance with the man from business that we have better arrangements than the no deal there isnt a Serious Business leader with dead money who is. Agreeing with the position of a no deal so its counted today their constituency base its its its federal law and he russian relations and i hear. That its fed by our irrational faith xenophobia and there is no logical conclusion other than the saw stuff to this particular really made generally election of large chunks and we have to go to a hard break gentlemen and after that hard break well continue our discussion on bojo and regs and stay with. Just manufacture consent in terms of public wealth. When the running clubs isnt protect themselves. With the. Whole middle of the room 6. 1000000 more you dont need. To. Put them so. They get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president. Wanted. To go to the press its like them before 3 of them or cant be good. Interested in the waters and the. Pressure. To get up off the ground serve began to. Hurt them freeze on the sounds of an mit grown man with misleading essentially. Through his. Twisted away from the officer. Of his group. They obviously did a kind of lunge for the web in one smiths and then when it happened on she swung at god says he didnt hit him i never saw any contact with. Any kind went back to where they were so the answer is back here there again 15 feet apart at this point and thats when the officer is gonna need to turn 3. Welcome back across the uk where all things are considered Peter Lavelle reminder were discussing bojo and breaks it. Ok lets go back to mark here i still havent gotten an answer to my question how is Boris Johnson going to achieve this if hes going to achieve it now i only mention with lee. Rules ok thats one way hard brags that ok but then which all agreement is off the table because it was 0 down 3 times and humiliated a Prime Minister ok so can you tell me what the 3rd variant is here does he know and if he does know what he cant support a friend ok well i would get. Lask you got it you got ahead of me on that one when you got a mark for sam gagner you got me on that one ok go ahead mark. Well there is word that theres a certain amount of discussion going on about changing the Withdrawal Agreement that relates to the backstop which were to really put a border between northern and Northern Ireland of the republic of ireland of actually having the kind of border between the e. U. And the bulk of britain having it more down the irish sea in other words changing the buck stop problem to a kind of an island problem theres always got the johnson is very keen on to technological changes. In our 50 years on putting a man in the moon but we cant sort out these are the arrangements regarding the movement of goods surely human ingenuity in this new optimistic here of jobs. We should be able to challenge a solution to that really i think the only thing the only the only thing on offer is sheer force of personality plus a certain amount of blackmail i wonder if mr johnson is going to even though the you are quite happy that the divorce settlement 39000000000 i believe that thats going to be paid over years rather than all at once perhaps some threat to look at that again and whittle down that figure hes hoping that through really psychological articles on astrology you know that. You to change the deal it sounds like black magic thats black magic youre to actually get the token solitaires ok let me go back to the game here i like it now were going to get to the point of this whole debate here and to see ok well fine ok but benghazi doesnt get the benghazi doesnt usually have much to do with policy or good policy that is here james james. And a general election thats minutes in the offering here general election lets say lets say theres a general election before october 31st well it doesnt have to be is not real precedent for that. Parliament probably cant stop them being. Stopped us leaving on october 31st we were about what we were all agreement we got equal and no deal or you know anymore anyway because if you sort it out a lot of. Bilateral trade deals with a number of countries like norway and south korea and in the last couple years thats not its not losing interest that were no way near salting out trade deals with any companies weve got preliminary agreements top further discussions thats the subprime issue danceable since another point is that there are a number of labor m. P. s your heart. Is maybe 10 or 20 who vote against their own wit and boss of the government will certainly want. To on an emotion that will actually wreck debbie preselected in the run up to a general election. Then you can still say the media selected as we speak. And that. Is. The labor market although youre going down there youre going down a path that i think its really important here let me go back to mark in lancaster how have both parties made major parties fared through all of this here because Boris Johnson has the opportunity to bring some unity to the tories but what about labor because labor has been very well its been waffling a lot on this here but i and i suppose if i was Jeremy Corbin i would do the same thing watch your opponents destroy themselves and thats one political tactic here but how both parties have been very damaged i think you could say through this entire process go ahead mark. Yes well theyll be an awful lot of mainstream labor politicians just tearing their hair out at the moment this is a godsend to opportunity for any credible party of opposition and labor is in its own internal chaos and if it wasnt for the you could say the internal chaos is about very different issue but of allegations of antisemitism but its in chaos over breakfast as well and mr coleman has been dragged kicking and screaming to a position which sounds a bit more like remain but he doesnt sound at all sincere on this and thats because he is a british so you have a party that should be ready to cash in having been converted to pro european ways in the 1980 s. That far back its now divided again just at the moment when it needs to be united and the beneficiary of this is the liberal democrats the one thing i would say thats really dangerous for the cities in the johnson camp is that where ours the party and the conservative party theres absolutely no love lost the tall and that vote is likely to be split if they do face off in a general election i have a very strong hunch that the remain camp is going to be a lot more efficient in a general election thats ensuring that the city with the best chance of winning will succeed in various can. 2 and says so general election is something that the conservatives may have a very mixed feelings about labor im afraid they should be just looking at it is an open goal but the chances are in the midst of covens leadership whatever his virtues they would blaze the ball over the goal and the british politics would just be completely chaotic and unstable into the foreseeable future ok we have both parties failed the the electorate because they voted to leave ok and parliament and both parties have failed to execute on the peoples will here and so this is really the crux of it for me too i mean im kind of agnostic about it but i believe in democracy ok it was a vote and opening clear and the it was decisive ok for a Large Campaign like that so i think its really incumbent upon them because if they cant get a deal through then theyve failed the people and that is a very that that will damage the the believe people have in the political system and its pretty damaged right now all through the western world what can bore us johnson do to turn that around beyond being optimistic which i guess we all want to be optimistic but i dont see how that moves the needle at all go ahead leigh. You know the only realistic optimism is an incredibly dangerous character if speak to have where youre playing high stakes politics is soon you have a greater control over external inventors then you then you do not you have talents which you do not have. And they outcome can be absolutely catastrophic i think it poses an existential challenge to both parties that is absolutely clear and im neither. Labor all tory have really taken the opportunity to borrow their strategic position that would benefit them but also aligning fully with the interests of the country labor is prevaricated too much it is on denali its not been clear in its messaging and i couldnt stand the frustration in the party i think when we come to a general election the question is going to be binary what is going to be pro bricks or bricks and i mean thats a good position for labor to be in even if they lose the election because even if they lose a general election if we come out of European Union without a deal so it will be the recession and the Economic Impact that the tide of popular opinion will turn when people feel in their pockets we could be in for another general election much sooner than people think so either you seem porton for labor to stick to a principled position and the fact is you cant extricate yourself from a 60 year relationship with a European Union that has got by his untiring levels of bureaucracy legislation and policy and simply get a working power to get it together and fix up and resolve it overnight it takes decades to unravel that European Union relationship. I dont see anybody being able to do that any time soon ok james weve talked about labor and were talking about the tories how does the brigs in party play into this because they really kind of. A dramatic arrival on the scene here what were all. Can they play in all of this here and can the tories and the brits and the break to party Work Together i mean that would be a very interesting combination well nigel farage is. Going to. And this is why and that someone at least sounds like hes. Right now its henris and the brits made in the election were a lie and it would be a joke because you have a local organization. And you. Nigel for officers like. And like. You know. About the environment. Theres a big deal in what is a big debate here and i get here and. I love this is just this judge has already announced to visit by a boat a potties further on shes a wonderful young. Guy just as opposed to that suppose i bought her in is only a nice postmodernism absolutely baby. So we have seen the mess they got themselves into and theyre seeing it now labors policy is not they dont know what the problem is. You sure go big on this as you said i he said. Told me. That kaberle grazing were moved out by by farache i think farache i think i think that boris has moved to the right to compensate for farache you could if you could never move to the right hot enough for some of these people and i think the i. G. Art will do for boris as they did for man cameron ok let me go tomorrow let me go to mark shang and i want to go to mark mark is going to finish it up for us here how does this all and mark is are going to be. Transparent here its a trail of tears ok how is it all and i mean we have where we have 99 days and a lot of optimism how does it all end mark go ahead. Well if you look at 1st of all id say napoleon where he lives today would be very flattered to be compared to nigel for i mean i think if were talking about this 99 day thing to paraphrase t. S. Eliot this is the way the british politics basically the pieces reassemble not with a whimper which it was in a way and to reason maybe but with the back and say this is bringing all these underlying things to the surface you could say if you think that remain is the right option that this is a chance to lance the boil of this and this and to europe in sudden cements and so we actually get britain into a more realistic course in the world equally by sheer force of will and also the very interesting populist measures mr johnson on the domestic front is suggesting sorting out care for the elderly getting rid of all sterrett see all these kind of things which are not lasting money problems if this kind of thing is is going to be a no ok i have to jump in here to get weve all run out of time here hes going to have to solve all problems at the same time many thanks to my guests in london lancaster and in plymouth and thanks to our viewers for watching us here darkie see you next time remember. 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How why a paradise with some ground turned into a round the experimentation field for agricultural chemicals we know that these chemicals have consequences they are major irritants theres no question otherwise why would that the Chemical Company workers themselves be geared up that suited up locals attempt to combat the on regulated experiments that often in day you have many of these people who have one foot into the biotech pharma and the other foot in the government regulatory bodies this kind of collusion is reprehensible while the battle goes on the chemicals continue to poison hawaii and its people so one has to ask the question whether there is a form of Environmental Research going on in hawaii whether these Companies Feel they can get away with this because the people have less political power. You know world of big part of the new lot and conspiracy its time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that made stream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the facts. And shouting past each other its time for Critical Thinking its time to fight for the middle for the troops the time is now were watching closely watching the hawks. Not. Know. That theres. The french president bushs political maneuvering takes the leaders of the g. 7 by surprise he invites the renia and foreign minister to the summit for crisis thats. Coming up in the program the new rules are in force. But the tech titan telling employees not to engage in political debate at work. Also the family of a british sudanese man