Their wrath that they can try to pent up and cast on his back look theyve been doing this since ancient times this is not something that started with the impeachment process this is a process that communities do since thousands of years of my studies of anthropology whenever theres times of tension whenever theres stewing envy in a community they need to find a scapegoat someone that they can say hey look you know i dont like each other here but at least were not that guy but the problem is its not going to work and its going to backfire ok richard i mean i know your politics very well and i always like having you on the program but i mean what is the point of this exercise if the goal that they want to achieve is not going to be achieved go ahead richard. So the most recent fox news poll that you saw peter had 54 percent of the American Public think donald trump should be impeached 50 percent peach and removed again he only got 46 percent of the vote so you now have people who voted. For him who think he should be thrown out of office over what he did and the answer your question why are we doing this because it goes to the question of do we want Fair Elections or not because if we dont lend lets just call it a day let trump put the arm not just on the lenski but maybe because of his friend Bibi Netanyahu says hey bibi you know i love you man but ive got 3000000000. 00 of aid here but do me this favor you got a lot of smart guys here how about if you help me on the internet or he goes to president xi and try and says were going to make a great trade deal im actually give you much better that we agreed to but do me a favor but if you guys just put about a 1000000000. 00 worth on to facebook that helps me in back of my opponent because if we let this go that will happen ok ok but you know rick that will happen we can just go on to that no we dont what we i guess from the get go here i mean i know you read the telephone conversation with the ukrainian president i read it as well actually many times and you know what im going to show my sense of fairness here i can see how it can be read in a number of ways you know because thats very stream of consciousness i think it was inappropriate in some places it wasnt really kind of diplomatic talk that we would more expect but nonetheless again this doesnt rise to the occasion of impeachment here david i mean it seems to me when you know we went from a quid pro quo to bribery to. Obstruction of congress whatever that means we do have a judiciary i mean it seems to me this is a process for the process itself it is to humiliate from its to humiliate his followers of course liberal media loves to show this because its bread and circuses but what is the result how is it it be a good result you put all of this effort into it it goes from russia gate ukraine gate and now we have were all up to the finish line and it didnt we dont get a goal here and it looks like everybody loses and i think the country loses going through this process go ahead do it right. Well look they want to project their sins on to him and im not a truck guy thats not my thing i look at this and try to be as independent as possible but you know isnt that what the attorney job is investigating is this idea that the Previous Administration could have been working with other foreign country yeah you know theyre looking at australia and wait a 2nd what are they doing there theyre colluding with foreign powers against their rival tromp to see if perhaps they can find some dirt on them so maybe just 2 maybe knowing what they know theyve done and might be revealed by der they needed to get a head of the curve and say hey look look look were going to impeach trial and were going to give him a little black eye pitches a little bit give peter mark because that will soften the blow for the Public Perception is that richard jump in go ahead could i can i actually can i bring little down to fact in reality we had a republican led Senate Intelligence committee that said the russians interfered the ukrainians didnt we had a Republican Special prosecutor moeller who prosecuted dozens of rip of russians and said the republican russians interfered and the ukrainians didnt we had the and we had the Inspector General weve had authority after authority in the Intelligence Community in the us to say what what david just talked about is pure fantasy now i understand why its useful fantasy as a kind of deflecting right but deflect from the notion. That you could hear you brought up i would have to loaded kangana gave it hang on just for saying it richard did you see the komi interview with Chris Wallace did you see that. Did you see that i did indeed well i did so it did it to bits of why doesnt everybody you know i mean this is this is a corrupt person ok. I mean he cant even answer a question is accurate here i mean i think he betrayed what was wrong in the in the Justice Community jim comi ok and what david has a say does have said here let me ask you a question richard ok straightforward one here you had it and then hang on you know we do have the horowitz report durham is coming out here and it seems to me and again im trying to be kind of fair here ok in the middle is that they want to the democrats and liberals they want to avoid they want to control this narrative so the impeachment narrative is number one because its a spectacle but i mean if you look at horowitz you look at is testimony i mean the Obama Administrations Justice Department looks pathetically bad if not criminally culpable richard react to that what you call a narrative this what some of us actually would refer to as facts and here are the facts at harwich reported there was no political bias that gave route to the investigate the rush the investigation of the trunk campaign there was no political no spying there was no bugging of the trump towers peter struck had no influence over the decisions he was not a Decision Maker those are facts now the narrative yes and that kind of well theyre going through the same thoughts i married that they would have cia agents that are that well that they were f. B. I. Agents that made mistakes and they did all the Little Things to be Getting Better each of their lives sure that youre buying a very charitable mistakes ok who really held which did not have subpoena power Horowitz Horowitz did not have subpoena power so youre what youre doing right now is your spin youre spinning this because we know that john did has way more power to go deeper and look into the cia look into west going on in italy with miffs look this is a story that has all kinds of tentacles apparently in australia. And italy and who else who knows where else so horowitz how do you. Can i just power and so what were looking at why why did they go to italy multiple times because theyre something theyre looking at that serious and when you have durham and bill bargirl over there to be investigated now heres the thing heres the thing theres a lot of places to go besides going all the way to italy so they must have something that we need to know about it its in the publics interest for us to find out whether the Previous Administration and their Democratic Political partisan friends of the d. N. C. May have been using a busey the cia and other assets around the world to try to look for her or try to manufacture a criminal investigation to harm their political rivals so isnt that perfect to go ahead and get ahead of the curve and get a little dirt that mirrors it projects the same thing that we might find out with durham that he had best a geisha look at thats the elephant in the room i dont care who wins the election i care about the truth and lets not spin it horowitz is not nearly as important as he does not have nearly as much investigative power as durham so lets see what happens you know richard i mean again you know we were talking before we started our program here and im very im more concerned i dont care who wins the next election to ok lets be clear i dont care ok i want the American People to make their decision here ok but the process here with me and you and you and i remember and you are obviously much closer to it than i was the the clinton impeachment would you compare the process of the clinton impeachment to whats going on right now because up until this point its run by one party ok and it seems from the outside looking in it looks and it very very unfair and i know that bill clinton was given his fair do ok and i and the people who went after him a new member a very very well they were quite vicious but at least he had a side they protected him go ahead richard. So here theres a big difference between the clinton impeachment and this one which is that ken starr the independent counsel spent months and months and months interviewing to posing people behind closed doors today in contrast with the Intelligence Community here a 100 different members of congress equally split between democrats and republicans could have been in every single one of those depositions that adam schiff and his staff held in the house of representatives there were 100 people who were eligible to go and the republicans had every minute that the democrats had to crossexamine witnesses so the notion that somehow or other there was a. Lot at sea i watch a lot of the hearings i saw that adam shift was in very unfair pyar he was very biased very rude and he acted stupid most of the time here are and hang on gentlemen were going to go to our break and were after that short break well continue our discussion on trumps pietschmann state starting. 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The 1st part of the program we were delving into the impeachment process the process which of thats the most important word here but lets i want to kind of spread it out a little bit here i am a huge huge fan of the federalist papers i have a copy with me on my desk and at home ok because i think its some of the best political writing ever ever in any language at any time and ive looked over the impeachment parts of the federalist papers and the the the founders their worst dream is come true this is a partisan impeachment process ok and that is something they wanted to and they grappled with it read the federalist papers and weve come to this in 2019 weve the u. S. Congress has failed them go ahead. Oh yeah you just definitely become a partisan price is an issue and b. That we like you see in the federalist papers a few do. We are today pretty much a party line vote. And theres not much there its actually a piece to president on i think at this point democrats are using it as a weapon to get their political opponents out of office and they should be used where they obviously it should be used if the president is actually. Growing misdemeanors trees in or bribery which of course the president is now is not use in a career way and i think this may say a very dangerous precedent for the future you know you know you know let me go back to richard you know richard it may be. I think the good people of good faith can look at facts and come to different conclusions and i think thats the essence of having an honest political conversation but lets reflect upon what anthony just said there they just dont like the guy and they want him out and they feel that they were cheated in 2016 and this is a grudge match and its easy to. Trumps temperament as president and oh hes a he is a unique quantity here im trying to be neutral but i mean this is a power play richard thats all it is isnt it go ahead and look you know after charlottesville when with so divisive and so welcoming about american nazis in some peoples minds no indication to proceed with impeachment when it went on when he when he took babies from mothers arms across the border people thought that might have been but nancy pelosi said sorry no even after all or but obama did on obama and did that that was it obama was yeah. Yeah great so but here is that here to the thing im glad you mentioned the matter with paper obama because. Guys hang on richard go ahead go ahead richard right so im glad you mentioned the federalist papers goes read Alexander Hamilton and federalist paper 65. 00 where there he talks about the abuse of power which far supersedes anything having to do with a high crime in this to meter certainly it is when he talks about there which is using the office to your personal political advantage almost literally matches up with what trump did here and as i said earlier if that you were not on the discussion if trouble to put the arm on say the head of israel to say we got you through 3000000000. 00 in aid annually but do me this favor or to she and china weve got a good trade deal for you but to me this favor thats exactly. Right again richard were coming and going in a cul de sac here i mean again all of us have read the transcript and i come to a very different conclusion ok and i actually know a lot about ukraine im just a transmitter nobody you know that let me go to hangar no no no to that i was ready to get everybody and i got to get everybody in here im so that it gave it ok im just going to use what richard just said there you know charlottesville taking babies away from their parents at the border and with all due respect to richard this is this shows theyre looking for a way to impeach him it doesnt matter what it is as long as it sticks i mean Richard Richard just proved that ok because because they dont because i again this is where the do great divide is here i think that it was the Obama Administration but they were the ones that committed these acts against the law and against carter page and George Papadopoulos theyre never mentioned ok their people their lives have been destroyed other peoples lives have been destroyed to process crimes ok not even having to do with any of this here and so it seems to me this is a power. Play i wish people would be more honest about it go ahead david well thats the nature of d. C. Its all about dishonesty its all about political theater performance are its Pro Wrestling yes the best way to learn about d. C. Of the talking points coming out of it but look you know mansi palosi and donald trump are closer politically than i am to either of them ok so i dont have a dog in that fight but i see whats clearly in front of us and the democrats youre right there are scapegoating theyre projecting their own gill are the terms so when they tell all we should have a pizza because of he tore babies apart it was obamas cages that were putting kids in these cages it was 3000000 thats right 3000000 adults and children d. Ported im sure some of them were torn apart and guess what that pairs up democrats and and those who voted for obama terrorism up inside and they need to they need to find someone they can say well how do i get rid of this whoa look at this fall its his fault hes the one that tore the children part because it bothers this eat them up that when you play this political game and you you get in league you get in connections with people like obama and so forth and then they disappoint you and they keep the steady status quo go away and its its a disappointing thing but look the founders would be outraged at the idea that a sitting Vice President remember George Washington warned about 7 entangling a law and tango are to stay out of them stay out of there the idea that a Vice President would have the purview and the power to choose the political administrations of a far off country like ukraine and that he could withhold taxpayer money to the tune of a 1000000000 on the condition that he admitted to that is on fire in there that in saw security grades thats how you talk to battery hens of a nation of quid pro quo thats a dictionary definition of it here its a has it me and i when it is either fish out there is not is a god or fiction ok you know it i dont know. I love you richard i just feel i give you a hug if you were here but ok we just simply disagree on what the facts are and id respect that i respect that ok let me go to anthony here anthony i obviously the most important question as we go through this 3 ring circus here. Is normalizing impeachment ok its easy to go after tom trump because of his the way he behaves his usage of twitter which i think he heard some self others would disagree with me on that but it invites a lot of things a sloppy telephone call that you know its brought on to himself here but that the im talking about protecting institutions here and the institutions that are there are 3 branch of government are at stake here right now particularly the executive branch go ahead anthony or oh yeah definitely i mean the way he behaves always with her theres one thing people can say i dont like a more i do like you know thats not really the point here the point is a cycle about the facts lets talk about the evidence you cant is a going to impeach him and used this particular tool they really should be used except for extreme circumstances because i dont like the president that should be the way this thing goes and im seeing a whole lot today people are bringing up how those who was going to do what did you create a phone call i mean we should be focused on the facts of the phone call and i see i mean russia should be brought to appear the borders should be brought up here nothing else should be brought here except for ukraine and if theres nothing near which quite frankly there isnt anything there some may say that a phone call was kind of sloppy but it didnt really matter where is it theyre there it is not in there and we should just move boiling it really ugly down this road you know anthony i think it would be a very interesting exercise if we could see that the transcripts of telephone calls that bill clinton had. George w. Bush. Brock obama i think that we would probably find those telephone conversations not much different than trumps but no no. They 0 in on now one right there is 0 in on it ok ok same question to you richard i mean i know you care about the republic i know you care about the constitution you care about your Political Party which is your right your prerogative here but dont you think the going down this path here you have more to lose than win go ahead richard you know this shows how twisted the debate gets i specifically said they were going after charlottesville they were going after stealing babies and yet your guest basically say thats exactly what im talking about and thats bull whatever reason i bring it up and if i dont know that exact no well i was originally with the richard reid question and i was saying thats what they chose ok thats what were what did we can we actually it was my and were agreeing what im just saying they were looking for something for impeachment not because something impeachable happened but they were looking for something to do hang on impeachment thats all im trying to say im not trying to pin anything on you keep going richard. Ok so heres you asked the question politically whats the upshot of this and the answer is we dont know but what history do we have yes in 1908 the democrats picked up 5 seats in the house against a very unpopular 29 percent favored impeachment for bill clinton the republicans went ahead with it newt got ousted Bob Livingston out got ousted for an affair and Dennis Hastert serial Child Predator became the longest standing republican speaker of the house that was the upshot for the republicans and george bush got into the white house by talking a 1000 times about restoring honor and dignity to the white house against a good economy but thats what he wrote on so im not at all sure and you ask matt bevin the defeated governor in kentucky who asked any response to the defeated gubernatorial candidate in louisiana who were pointing to impeachment as a reason to vote for themselves and they lost they had rallies just like trump had last night with trump there and they lost so its not at all clear to me that this is the winner that trump would tell you it is the gate i dont miss attach any weight to anything he says ok let me give david the last word on the program here this is going to be nancy pelosi legacy. And it showed that she lost control of her caucus she has these you know these red guard that shes afraid of you know the squad and all of that and and a radical base but at the end of the day shes going to lose this and shes and thats going to be whats going to be written on her political biography she failed to go ahead david. Yeah and are also on her legacy and her side are unfortunately is that they when bush was in power and he lied us into the iraq war and a 1000000 people died human beings children the people that were supposed to care about most of their people are still suffering from that war and were mansi pelosi the democrats had the chance to get power back they did not impeach him fast forward to 2000 and we have a republican president who i guess hesitated a little bit to give violent weapons to ukraine more in the service of the war the perpetual war state that the left is supposed to be on our side together through working to him and so when they had that happen they had peach so heres the legacy of me as the post of the democrats they dont impeach when a 1000000 people die for a lie ok 2000 im going to jump in im going to be im going to you re with. 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