The cross starting Tucker Carlson, and the conservative movement. Im joined by my guess, lionel in new york. He is a legal in media analyst in milwaukee. We have jennifer breed read and she is an attorney. And in denver we cross the title, nixon e, as an attorney and political strategist across lock rules in effect, that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate, okay, lets go to line on the 1st day in new york. Okay. I want to, i dont want to go through all the background, what happened over the weekend with these 2 conservative for, but you could easily come to the conclusion. Number one, donald trump, the inside of the party. But the heart and soul of the party belongs to the doctor carson and go ahead my friend. Oh, hes a virus, hes a parasite. He is the future. 2 things have happened. Bobby kennedy junior and tucker agreed to be kennedy junior, represents the prototypical see radical quit the central left at dr. Crossing. Is that right . But guess what . They agree on. That is ridiculous war and ukraine kind of a re, a re positioning of what left and right was historically, by the way, whenever the democrats were in power, the bad guys were always local homegrown. You know, randy weaver and david correction mcveigh where the republicans were in charge. The bad guys will always terrorist, well today we have this amount. All of them we have left to right now basically clamoring for war. We have left her wide basically looking for biomedical tyranny. We have left her right basically looking to throw away everything. So tucker is the statesman, Bobby Kennedy junior. And by the way, if there is a god, which im not too sure about, but if there is a god, Bobby Kennedy will go to the 3rd party, destroy whats left as the Democratic Party handed over to trump. And then maybe just, maybe we can have another go and maybe resetting the great reset, but not in schwab, be in terms, but an actual real palpable term. Well, reset just the or the, the operative word here, jennifer. I mean, it seems to be a, its interesting that lionel brings up bobby junior because bobby junior is fighting the establishment. And Tucker Carlson is a escaping week, reached good, taking the establishment. And this is what really, it angers the establishment is that, you know, they, you dont have to fact check tucker because theres nothing really to check. And thats what really annoys them. Jennifer, your thoughts the yeah. What are the most, is the tucker, especially even with the, with the g o p. Candidates, he was asking questions, asking questions, but they dont want him to ask, asking questions. They dont want to answer and, and thats what it is. You know, theres really nothing to fact check him on because he knows his stuff. Hes lived in this world. Hes the only 2 loved amongst them. And he knows whats going on. But its also tapping into as miles that its tapping into the soul of the, of the page. Remember, that happened in the soul of the americans, the american, on the american spirit, those questions that were now ask you, which is, why is our party moving against us . Do they see they seem to hate us . And thats the main question i think that theyre trying to avoid is, especially for republicans, is, is, it seems like they are trying that they hate us, that they dont want to do that. And thats a question. We never ask before we vote for somebody with an our next to their name on the democrats case with, with Bobby Kennedy with it, with a do next to their name. We assume that theyre going to do what it is that we, that we voted for them to do. And now were seeing possibly for the 1st time ever met many here in the last several decades. But theyre not doing what we voted for them to do that. They dont care what we say and as a sort of like a we, the People Movement wise, you know, perhaps for the 1st time ever, at least in several decade. Yeah. Its interesting, tyler, it was if you look at the, the, the data be one, tucker was still on his program. Is it more democrats watch tucker than anyone on the left . And there are a lot of conservatives that are actually interested in Bobby Kennedy. Im not surprised by that. Okay. I mean, i would come into work and id say, i dont know how much longer they gonna allow tucker to talk like he talks because it is so we feel very different than anyone else. And you know, put fox news can burn to the ground for as uh, as far as im concerned right now because tucker was the only one that said anything of interest. And he spoke up for the power list. I want to stress that go ahead, tyler . Well, i think people have good faith, one is see a viable party system that enables people to have a home and ideological home. And frankly, i think both parties are very poorly represented the actual people in, in the process. And i think what tucker represents is if hes the heart and soul of the Republican Party, donald trump, to the head of it, ron paul is the ideological godfather. We came onto the scene decades ago and frankly challenged all the norms and was lambasted, was treated just a shadow of shabbily, as you can imagine by the establishment and what were seeing. But we solve donald trump treatment as well as a, frankly, and i was tuckers treatment is exactly what ron paul was treated to, which is uh that you know, the, the policies that they support, or that they advocate and against, frankly, a corrupt, arrogant and deceitful establishment is what people actually want and believing. Now were seeing that i that casual ideological shakeup in the Democratic Party. Although ive said before that i think the true battle is within for, for whats left of of any type of chance for a future, for american politics, that is not just a total fascist dictatorship, is within the battle within the Republican Party drain the ron paul. No ideological strain and frankly, the neo come on, you know, frankly that these people were, ive always been authoritarians and the bush, the bush. Hes, i guess you could call them the bush, familys elk, who has hijacked the Republican Party since frankly, probably the late 19th sixties. And, and what weve seen is this uh, the rebellion thats going on starting again with dr. Paul. Well, i deeply respect, inch and deserves isnt not given the credit. I think he deserves all that. I think Everybody Knows that he was the 1st to step out and really take on the war welfare warfare machine that had been the that we had been the treated to for, for decades at that point. And Tucker Carlson speaks that speaks that ideology speaks that, that frankly common sense and then they can have it. Yeah, they can have it. And then truthfully it just truth telling. I mean these people, they cannot stand to have their feet held as a fire. I think how he interviewed mike pence revealed so much on what i but i said, go ahead. I was gonna say i was going to turn it over to the light owens and, and talk about mike pens because mike, pensive showed how much hes disgusted with popular opinion. I mean, its really amazing. Hes, you know, in evangelical and all of this. And in tucker asked him about a religious liberty and ukraine, and he just scoffed at it. I mean, hes coughing it all of us line on that. What were seeing right now is the death throes of a system that has been we thought, pretty much intact for a long time. Several huckabee sanders, one time said that this is going to be a battle about the normal versus the crazy. There are people who have never really been a part of the system for a long time of including black people of people, of color, regular, plain old gay people, not with any kind of 2 s l t. Sounds like a mercedes living. People who have just looked at regular, common sense of facts. And what were seeing right now is a can comment and destruction also of the Entertainment Systems that used to feed this. You guys as well . Basically if we looking to dump cnn, youve got eiger who wants to dump a, b, c. Youve got major strides right now. People dont understand. As bright board said, you know, politics is down percent as bright board shed. You know, politics is down stream from entertainment. This is change drastically. What were doing right now is going to be the medium of exchange of ideology. This is it. This is the marketplace of ideas. But also what happens. Remember, going back to what, what tucker did with mike bench tucker, didnt ask him anything tricky. My parents, you think somebody would have said that, mike, youre going to have this story to say basically when he base it, you said i have sold my soul to the global as a lead. That was the end of it. But keep in mind whats happening, that was the end of it. But keep in mind whats happening right now very quickly. Bobby kennedy is, poses an existential size of the Democratic Party projection. Got a new, some replaces bite and watching when marissa is vp. Cala harris is out and they are now changing everything. Bobby just sped up the removal because im telling you for the 1st time is based on a couple of months ago. Even though theres no way theres a real chance that donald trump could be the 2nd chance that donald trump could be the 2nd Grover Cleveland and actually be the 2nd non consecutive president. Because right now he is number one in the republican field. And because of bobby tucker, and by the way to tucker is the bill buckley of his time. He may not be in a offers, but he is extremely critical. So were seeing right now things that are changes. And one more thing, as were talking about does jordan and komar talking about Hunter Bidens checking account, who cares . This is how, how out of their mind they are, how out of the it was already cares about that time. So im not ready. 2024 is the waters, tyler brought up a really good point. I think it did the do. The salvage, the, the, the political culture is going to be resolved within the Republican Party and considering, you know, there are a lot of my expenses. And nikki haley is out there in jennifer. I mean, is it possible that you wouldnt be republicans and actually in lock step to get behind donald trump . Is it possible now with considering what Tucker Carlson had to say, go ahead a. Hi joe, and ill tell you one thing i live in wisconsin in right now, there is a, theres a chasm. Theres a shift of and people are realizing there, but a lot of the people, you know, wisconsin is a great, its a salt of the earth place. But the conservative here are completely conservative, at least the porch front that have supported the ideas of styles by dr. On paul, by others, by an anti war anti establishment. That those conservatives here are hated by the Republican Party. And i know thats happening throughout the area and, and i, i can tell you, i mean theres, there is one, at least at least one state representative as of the past 7 days. As of last week, who has literally stated, i dont care what the patriot say about me. This is a republican state representative. And, and so these people i, i hope that they could get in lock step. Wed hope that there could be unity, but youre already involved and acknowledgement that you care about your base that you care about. These thoughts of the earth, a good the conservatives of people who are saying enough for another for terry isnt up, terry. And as im another this big farm, a dictatorship, another of all of this and those are okay questions i, i know of not looking to blind i, attorney to blind eye to elections where there are questions about whats going on. Our elections is there for you. We look into this and, and these are people who have been demonized, whove been months well and do it. Yeah. But jennifer, you can, you can, you can question the 2016 election of course. But you can question the 2020 election business pop pockets. And the we live with alright, and were going to go, were going to go to a hard break. And after that hard break, well continue our discussion on Tucker Carlson. And the future of the conservative movement say, without taking the, the the, [000 00 00;00] the, the russian states never as tight as im sort of the most sense Community Best to communicate and ill send, send up the calls quickly about this. Even though we will ben in the European Union the kremlin mission, the state on russia cruising and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services, even closer to the of the welcome x across the dock were all things are considered im Peter Lavelle to remind you were discussing Tucker Carlson in the future of the conservative movement. The. Okay, its go back to denver and tyler, you know, one of the things that ive talked about years on this program is how the professional managerial class has been able to capture the political, the political establishment, both parties here. How do we break out of that . Because tucker gave us, you know, i think a, a path, you know, common sense and challenging power. It shouldnt be unique, but it is at this moment in time. Go ahead, tyler . Well, i mean, you, its, its a, thats this be essential task. And then what, what youre seeing is its happening now. And i think the age of multi media and give the internet age of all the different outside outlets and resources and sources our educating people and making them realize that they dont know what used to be a very managed controlled environment. But the problem is how do you translate that into electrical politics . And unfortunately, as i know from my battles in the delaware Republican Party, years back, beginning with uh, frankly, finding out that these people do not care what the, what the base thinks, what most Republican Voters think that theyre going to do, what they, what they feel is is right for whoever their masters happy be within the, whether financial or political establishment. And this is where we have to, we have to really the where the rubber meets the road and people need to realize that they are empowered. And i think unfortunately, you know, this is why youve seen Election Fraud become a real thing because theyve realized that people have awakened and are no longer going to go in lock step or follow just whatever theyre served up by the establishment. And in either party, i would hope to see the Democrat Party burton see the lock broken because that means this is truly an evil institution compared to id say, you know, the, the i used to kind of um, scott side of but they say the stupid bodies are bubbling party in the does that democrats revolt. But i think in, in the age of constant information where people can see the truth where a they, tucker, carlson, even though has been taken off the air is more influential perhaps than ever. That, that there are avenues to, to, uh, translate this into electrical victories because their people are gonna stand for these candidates will not be i will not answer the questions that are, are the essential questions for the voters. They will not stand for stage managed politics. You know where its just, i mean its, its, its essentially a fraud. I mean, the entire thing is that potemkin village really, you know, everythings okay. Everythings great. Well, its not. That means its the exact opposite of what people want and what they expect. And its going to be a long process, i think because the, these people, these parasites will not give up power easily. And it will not that, that a stranglehold they have on the american politics may require the gaps, unfortunately. Well, not unfortunately, its on peoples cases, but it was a recard generational change where people like Hillary Clinton and others finally finally drop dead frankly. And i think, you know, she deserves it more than anybody i just developed. And all these deals with all these boomer era politicians who have destroyed american politics turned it into a farce. And a totally 3rd, as you know, it was certainly had his share of corruption. But it was do, sir, is now just thorough corruption. Theyll have to dine pass, so i think i think i would cite the lincoln in principle, abraham lincoln, you can. Yeah. And he wants that you can full some of the people all the time, all the people, some of the time. But you could not full all the people all the time. Thats problem as well. No. Talking about pulling people line on, you know, lets look at these, these met issues here, cove at the National Security stage. Here they and both parties and the sabbath spent the gravitate around these med narratives here. Meaning you cant question them. Ok, that is, the problem is that when it comes to National Security and health, i mean we all should have a right to question it. But know youre shut down for a line on the only thing would be in addition to that, um, you know, originally there was something which i never thought i would see. So recently there was something which i never thought i would see. And i think its relevant, it was a phone that came out the sound of freedom and it was about a childs advocate and Human Trafficking in child protection. And it wasnt, jim, could these all and not mel gibson, but it was saw to be mel gibson. And what about tim ballard and these folks who basically were Trump Supporters and good christians, trying to fight get this child trafficking. I dont know about you, but i think most people would be against is when you saw the concern to this, when you saw the concerted, choreographed in orchestrated movement and in, in, in reactions to this by this professional left who, whoever these media folks are. Its amazing, they saw the people who concern themselves about that were part of some kind of a blood conspiracy sector, whatever. Thats number one. Number 2, let me tell you the problem that the republicans are making right now. The democrats sold the election 2020 legally. They know exactly what to do. 20 legally. They know exactly what to do. Nobody but nobody in the Republican Party is saying were ready to go. We have boots in the ground, we have lawyers, we have law firms. We have observers. They are going to have this snatch again from them, so in as much as tucker and Bobby Kennedy are doing tremendous things. Peter, there are old fashion, plain old hardware rules about elections and how to steal out of preventing from being steal or stolen, that whatever the situation of the Republican Party is, is forever. This iteration of the Republican Party is, is not doing, but i remain hopeful. And again, remember talking crossing is the bill buckley. He may not be in office, but he is a spirit of a meal republic, and i do use that word. And Bobby Kennedy is a godsend. Remember if he goes 3rd party, because lets face it, this is a guy who basically had his family destroyed by the same organizations that are trying to destroy this country now. And what a great pay back that would be. Think about its, its like so i would, i would just know real quick. Its funny because of Tucker Carlson, son his name buckley in, in o. My gosh. Okay. The circle is closed. Okay. Jennifer, you know more than one of my biggest problem. My biggest problem with the g o p, im not, im a republican i, i cant be in a party with Lindsey Graham. Sorry, i just cant. Okay. And theres a lot of other women Mitten Romney the rest of them. I, i really cant be in the same club as people like that. Jennifer, it really bothers me, is that so Many Republican establishment, terry, and say they go along with the liberal narrative on almost every single issue. And they, in a particularly unlike mitch mcconnell, he seems to be comfortable in the minority. You know, i mean, i guess he has time to count as money or Something Like that. I just dont see the bigger to want to establish that agenda for too many years. We were republicans have been followers, mountain leaders. Okay. And of course they did everything to obstruct trump. Go ahead, jennifer. A plane you brought up a good point. No, i dont want to be in a party with, you know, Lindsey Graham or mitt romney or some of these others. But theres a reason people use the term line when, when you break that down republican and name only, theyre just democrats. We dont want to be impacted and established establishment democrats. All they care about is the unified with each other. Theres the old adage in anyone that lived in washington dc knows this, you know, they, they sit and fight in front of the camera of and then they go and have a drink afterwards. And they, they kind of laugh about it. Its all a show and i think more and more people are seen that youre in a party and then that you dont party that just that, that hate then that is pro war pro establishment. You know, a really fascinating thing is beginning to happen and thats at the, the Grassroots Level with the people. If you dont mention your Political Party, if you dont mention what Political Party vote with a general people that maybe support what Bobby Kennedy is saying, um or Something Else that youve got the new conservative, the tucker conservatives, if you will, with the Robert Kennedy democrat with the kennedy democrats, if you get those people in a room despite how divided weve been, you know, reprogram to, to think that we are those 2 people in a room tucker, republicans, candidates. The democrats will agree on almost every day. Yep. They will agree that the government needs to be held in check. They will agree that were supposed to be asking questions. Theyll agree that the vaccine loc, as were wrong, theyll want to ask questions about this perpetual war military industrial complex. And the want to do that, and so thats what i think the establishment is the most afraid of the fact that people are finally asking questions theyre pressing back. But there is push that, you know, it was George Orwell that said. And its, i am of universal to see truth as a revolutionary act, and thats how they treat people as revolutions and not as revolutionaries as, as rebels as instruction, as others who are trying to just ask questions to get to the true, to say, im not buying what youre selling me. Yeah. And its hard because you can talk about what yours for. Its hard for lawyers to theres pushed back against against good constitutional lawyers in this country. Well, you know, tyler, i been on the jimmy door and show twice. I mean in, because of its a, it was a pod cast who lasted a long time. I, Everybody Knows im a conservative and a pretty rigid one on the, on most issues here. But i can talk to jimmy door for the long assignment. We kept looking for a way to disagree with each other, but we really didnt. Okay, and weve Max Blumenthal also. I mean, its a, well, this is all engineer to divide those, whether there is a division, go ahead, tyler . Well, you know, its, its so, and she mentioned that because of jimmy jimmy has been, you know, hes the, hell tell you just the easiest, the comedian who realized what was going on and had to speak out as an american. And for years he, uh, essentially there was this notion that you had to sort of disavow Tucker Carlson as you agree with him in the sense that, that well, you know, tucker i, you know, in the same thing with alex jones. Frankly, its everybody had to always give these sort of preliminaries if they were not, you know, have it supporters that, oh well, you know, alex jones may be crazy but, and they, they started doing that so much that i noticed the jimmy no longer says well Tucker Carlson as well, you know, off the ranch or whatever are you doing . Ive noticed the transition i noticed was right, is it exactly the way you did . I remember, yeah. Its finally finally coming to reconciling with a fact that these, these labels and these, uh, these are ideological or political sort of compartmentalization of people were for false. I mean, we agree on more than we disagree about. And then we certainly agree on the fundamentals of what this country should be, and this absolutely frightening the hell out of the establishment that is, as a totally ruled on the basis of these artificial, this artificial divide, i mean, in any sort of rebels or, or people who would challenge that to me . I worked for Newt Gingrich when he was minority whip in the an inch is speakership. He only lasted maybe 2 or 3 years, a speaker, roughly from the time of the revolution. So they asked him, put, put in Dennis Hastert of all people, you know, it was might as well been bob michael, who was the the previous uh, the loyal opposition. Minority leader who as you said, you know, did, they did nothing. So you know the system as an abided people like this. But what we have now is an entire sort of parallel infrastructure is rising up. Its far more vital farmer. Truthful and touches people or reaches people far better this uh, this media fascist media propaganda combine that weve had in corporate uh, you know, Corporate Media for years and thats gonna make the huge difference. Yeah. Be kennedys all over all this. I mean, these are easy. Well, i mean, you know, but Bobby Kennedy and tucker, carlson and jimmy door, i would even say they have a lot they, theyve given us permission not to hate our neighbor and that is refreshing. Okay. You werent, we dont have to hate ok. That is an inspiring message coming from the gentleman folks weve run out of time. I want to thank my guest in new york, denver, and in milwaukee. And of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our cc unix Family Member across cycles. The, the gym and so just deal with the, with the window taking the picture. 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