This crazy nice not crazy. This is it. Absolutely. Id rather proof of an issue with the much just isnt good. That this is the key. We will send you the wrong. Im not very good. Feel interest worse than you when you are still at the trip. So anyways, anyways, my speeds are still going yes. Sort of the, [000 00 00;00] the, id like to start off and jumping straight in with indias place in the world right now. No, dividends is power into, into your political wise that were seeing what do you expect from the country and the upcoming . Yes. What is that going to is been a force to reckon with for some time now. The economy has push india in a very healthy place over the last generation going back to the liberalization of 1991. And since that in the as be the study where ive seen a study group pass on a irrespective of whos been in pub, and weve seen that continuing over 3 decades now. And as a result in this is see not just as an emerging paul, but as apollo that in many ways as a much its already the was 3rd largest economy in purchasing pub, patawsee terms is likely to become the was 3rd largest and actual real dollar terms within the next 2. Yeah. So this is a country thats on the right track by and large economically. And as a result, given its have to the, well, its the most populous country in the world, even more populous in china today its, its likely that countries on all sides of the jo, politically divide, were taking this seriously. That i think is a given whoever wins these electric. Having said that, its also important that in depths of plays a constructive and responsible role in the World Community right now in that has been careful to maintain relationships on both sides of every device and discussion and ukraine, israel and the palestinians with the americans and the chinese, and so there are some inescapable challenges in india. Con, denied as a very tens border with china. It continues to have on resolve difficulties with foxes. Some of these are some of the, put a new problems of Indian Foreign policy, and they remain still sadly unresolved. And those would have to be checked on the go to stage fight of the. Id say that the fact that in the such an influential sets on everything from cyber space to outer space makes it potentially a huge leads a significant consider except for global governance. And that too makes india a force to reckon with on the real estate. And dave, thank you, and thats a lot less costly overview on the way in the or russian relationship relations between the 2 have been developing so far. How important do you think this partnership is for india, which is usually important about the shipment has been for a very long time in the when i busted visit mid to the, the, the soviet union and the old days and russia theyre off to, has been amongst and is a most reliable constant instead, foster friends in recent years and has been diversifying its sources of military equipment, which were heavily reliant on russia for many decades as recently as about 10 years ago. Oh, i would say theres more of them that maybe about 15 years ago. Russia accounted for 85 percent of older than does defense inputs. Today thats gone down to more like 40 percent, i would say the of course a lot of spare parts and so on for workers that are important to continue to come in as well as india, as diversified, its sources. But despite the, as i think the friendship remains very significant, we have thought for a long time, enjoyed uh, should we say uh close a Mutual Understanding on a number of issues. We have called for peace and view, create and conflict time, but India Remains a voice for peace and most global conflicts. So i would, i would probably leave it at that at this point of defense. As a major preoccupation of joe gilbert, your politics remains effect ups, but there are no major issues, dividing us. And as you know of recent, in recent years, it has become of a major consumer of russian oil and gas products. And then this has also been a very important occurred for russia at a time of international sanctions. So theres some, uh, chevy se mutual a win win on both countries. But sure. I wasnt, stuff werent there when it comes to dealing with the west, especially when it has this relationship with russia. Well, the western countries have shown some understanding. I would say that india has its own Foreign Policy and is not, has always been historically allergic to freezing into any particular blog, a or a line specially. India likes to have partners rather than allies. And thats again being the case. Going back to the days of the Non Aligned Movement on the funding, there are lots as Prime Minister discontinued, even in the very different government, a Prime Minister movies in the sense that he has he has stayed friendly for rough shots, even while being somewhere closer to the west then, previous in didnt, governments may have been the most important fit shuts off in this position on the rush. Or you can come pick because hes in just kept his lines of communication open to both sides. A pro foreign minister lover of has been to india a couple of times in the last year. He has internal cause of willing to listen to what he has to say. And i think thats something thats valuable to to the russians. As far as india is concerned, india a really she is being able to talk from a position of Mutual Respect with both with both the russians and the western countries and indeed with you. Great. So i would leave it the support you say, but you say in this future a staying friends with old countries, with everybody across the board. Im just wondering where are the red lines for india because weve been covering this story recently about said canada and also a support. So 6 that for to do think this will play a large role in new delhi dealings with the west. The way certainly playing an upsize road in our nations was canada. It hasnt yet affected our relations, any other wisdom country because things havent gone quite as far as they havent canada, where the government has seen by many new delhi as being complicit in. Encouraging a movements based in canada that are openly not only secessionist, an extremist, and that dialogue, but had been directly associated with x of murder and mayhem in india. Including the, the bombing of an ad in the jet line in 1985 that took nearly 400 lives. So its not just the questions of focusing inflammatory rhetoric, which is the way the canadians prefer to see it. For us, uh, the, the, the extremist elements in canada, i have cost in getting lives. And therefore we have not been particularly sympathetic to canada as indulgent. Solve those elements on this or it, in the future of india. It does indeed look very bright. However, some model is still continues a catholic wise india is a developing country, while others see it as a highly developed nation though. And then a long state of big flat decay as you want to set yourself. What did you mean by that . Its a depiction of india, i mean that point of view goes back to the late 19 ac is i would say that the cat has since been considerably repeated. And anyone visiting india today would be impressed by the, the widespread that use us off of computers and digital technology. And even your, your, because as to sellers, would the costs on the streets would have a 2 hour code on display. So you can pay them by mobile, okay. Its a country, the rushing, inpatient plane to the 21st century. So what do you think of some of the less theyll continue to call into a developing country where this is you see . Because the fact is that in depths, has People Living in conditions still of acute to poverty and despair. Efforts are being made, of course to pull them out, which i think both the present governments ended. Speed assistance have claimed some success in actually pulling large numbers of indians also. Busy protects but theres still a lot of people who live betty this side of the funeral par until every indian has, has the guaranteed assurance of decent lives and 3 square meals a day and roof over their heads as well as access to Decent Health care. And the prospect of meaningful work. Its difficult to just life for the claim. We have to develop countries. Even Prime Minister. Mr. Moseley, who is not particularly known for tempering is rhetoric, has set to go all the endeavor coming and developed countries 4204700000 of us, read about independence, and thats 223 as wait. So i think even she didnt, probably minister will accept that. Its too early to call us to develop the country. Weve got to wait to 7 to get to know that here, especially vocal about how portez colonial rule that affected india. Would you say that that effect is still ongoing . Id love to know. To what extent do think the colonial rule handed, the developments of india . What it every conceivable respect. But its a bit its its, i think its a bit lame today. 75 years. Nice up to blame is i wrote a work of history booked about today. I think we have to take responsibility for our own problems. The british took one of the richest economies in the world, one of the most prosperous countries in the world and systematically. Elizabeth newton is transformed into a post a child for side. Busy poverty and dispense with one of the newest life expectancies on the planets and the highest rates of poverty of the planets when they left. So there is nothing good that one can say for 200, you as a british colonialist of the same time that was 75. Yeah. 77 years ago now that made it left and i think wed have to stand up and say its ridiculous sponsibility for taking off future and our own hands and making it work. Obviously many of the best ones left behind by the berkeley still in deal with it. So im the administrator of framework or land holding passions, all population issues. But the fact still remains that we now are responsible, and we will take responsibility is also shaping our own dest. You have the pass code for the process government to pay reparations to its former colonies. Is that something that you still think it should be done . And how to move like 1000 benefit india now, is that right . Even though some racing of that ive been slightly misrepresented on that. What i said in that particular speech that went viral with several multiple millions of people watching it, was that i dont agree with the notion that financial reparations. I went on. So because i said that any amount of credible reparations would not be payable. Indeed, an economist has said, thats the actual monetary value of business exploitation of india can only be estimated at 45 trillion boats. And since the person has a a per capita, it has a total gdp of 5 trillion. I think 45. 00 trillion is impossible to pay, so any credible, say, go would not be payable. And any payable say, go would not be credible because whatever, uh, britain can pay in the end. Reparations would pale by comparison with the box damage done the lives on necessarily the last and the, the simple expropriation and expectation of India Library is put in your groups. That doesnt mean that con space, reparations to smaller calling these worthy songs wouldnt be more affordable. And more realistic, and im not presuming to speak for barbados or guy and ill see it i live in saying that they dont need reparations. That they may well do the funding the, i think the, the more o told him by the british is far more important. The british of never to apologize for 200 years of colonialism. And i think its high time they did. So its a distance, a Good Opportunity for them to do so. But since unity of the egregious and tragic jelly, im all about messic up. But when thats and tina retain that british Prime Minister was not able to go beyond an expression of redirect, which most people would consider the mild. And we also feel that i also feel and have been advocating passionately that originally would do well to teach and polish canadian history and that schools. So you dont have a lot of a spectacle of polls as recently as the last couple of yes, showing the majority of british people claiming to be proud of the empire. And one thing a back, which was something i also think it was almost like, uh, can you imagine a situation where the germans would want the nazi regime back . And yet thats what some people have written out well for the notes. Because the british dont teach, which was about, couldnt it as well dont teach colors and i told the history classes and schools and that should be rectified. And the other thing i suggested is, would that capital london being a, was the capital of museums, they should think seriously of constructing a Serious Museum of colonialism that would show visits as from around england and around the world. What they did is to foreign countries, and how they gain from is, as well as what damage they did to others. That could be a useful history lessons. Just as german students today, a bus to the concentration camps. Museum of colonialism in london. What do i think that was also good . Those are far more important than monetary reparations. But starting off with a simple, sorry, would take us a long way. And that i couldnt agree more. Now in the ninetys, he said, as a special you and assistance of peacekeeping operations, could you give us an idea of what that experience was like especially, and then went up to the cost of the war of 99 . Well i, i worked for a long time, but not terribly long had its mentioned 9 you agree or the united submissions, during which time i spent a very meaningful of 70 a student in the United Nations peacekeeping department during which i was the team leader for the former yugoslavia, so i was the person was up ranking the reports of the secretary general attending the Security Council meetings visiting your beside we have more times them is entirely wise and safe. A marching through mine fields of and facing stipends and all that fun. While of the same time having to of having to do the diplomacy in new york with the countries, particularly the members of the Security Council of the troops contributing countries on peacekeeping operations. By the time comfortable it happened, i had left me escaping to serve in the office of sector general co founder, and which is where i was when the bombing of the initial bombing of 99. It could and also was more on us forcibly separated from sub yes. That was a different experience. I was not in the peacekeeping department, but indeed, its fair to say that the peacekeeping department didnt 10 bucks to do with that. It was us a new operations that resulted in that particular situation, but i was involved from the beginning of the civil. Busy in 91, once the e u monitors pulls out in the u. N. Came in, and in fact, i was the person who led the 1st Exploratory Mission for the us. And along with a finish cutoffs, we travel through the wall fields and the was owns between the subs and the trots in october 1991. And we were dubious about the feasibility of peacekeeping at the time. But the world had already decided this was going to be the u. Ns talk potatoes. And so the report for you wrote to the Security Council, wherever you said that there wasnt really an easy, viable peacekeeping concept to be suggested. Something that the, as you split, agreed upon was the one that was, was chosen and then subsequently as a whole, washington erupt in bosnia and so on and spread throughout the former yugoslavia. I remained the person in the Un Peacekeeping department dealing with these problems. But there are all the small change about his costs of the rather large operation on the ground that grew as it. Busy from a handful of observers, when i 1st got involved to Something Like 88000. So just by the time i left to the end of 9. 00 to 6. 00, on the election of kofi on them to be sector general said was a huge period of my life of one that showed i would say many of the opportunities and the limitations of applying the peacekeeping technique to places where there was no peace to keep. And thats something we could talk about grace at length. Then this particular format too much. I know the last week you saw the in the general election and through the 2nd phase of those, including in your constituency. What do you think about how the voting process is going . The, as well, we had some issues in catalogue, where my stage with the turnouts could not be properly accommodated many boots, and a lot of voters, not only in my constituency, but swap my states. I tend to weigh off to wait to inordinately long hours and choose to vote, and that shouldnt have happened. And we have complained to the Election Commission that this was mismanaged, but by law, you know, of, i think the, the election came across otherwise, as, as, as free and fair. Weve had our issues with some of the technologies used. We would ideally like a law just some pool of both a verified paper trail machines to be counted alongside the electronic Voting Machines and that sort of thing which is a pending ongoing issue and they didnt elections but otherwise, um we had an, you know, 70 percent an option catalog and, and another state site to this. But i would say that the 1st couple of phases have gone without any untoward incident. Certainly no violence or anything like this. People are coming out to vote. The campaign is progressing. Many of us, including me personally, feel that the process is far too long. It need not have required 7 phases. The Election Commission has identified to conduct these polls. I think it could have been disposed of quickly, but yeah, from the voting being cost in my constituency. Last friday to the declaration of results on the of the 4th of june. Thats more than 40 days, i think closer to 48 days. And thats an awful long time to wait to know the results, not terribly from the about that, but otherwise no complaint so far its gone. Its been reason be well and we hope the remaining faces will go without incident as well. And the reason i introduce you identified the main goal is if the car in selections as preserving quotes, the main idea of india. Could you explain to is what you meant by that please. And um, we have cherished for the longest time, and i do have india that was of an intrusive nation. In rich all religions, all costs sort, losses, all creeds, all languages. And people have all states lives in equality and harmony in our country thats. Thats what the idea of in depth and trying to in our constitution, by the way, is all about we have on fortunately rooting policy for the last 10 years. That does not share the idea of indian. That indeed is our errors to a political move in the reject to the constitution, but it was framed because they believed india should be a sion do ross trucks. A nation of hindus and rich people of other states live on sufferings, either as guess or as im welcome into the we dont agree with that reading of in there. We dont agree with the reading of history, and we dont agree with the implied lack of social harmony that this would produce. We believe that india belongs to all who are part of its culture of civilization and demography. And we believe everyone has survived in an india where equal rights have been a church principal for us. And, and i, for example, if someone has written extensively about this kind of in depths, im deeply frustrated to see in the being reduced to a land that comes across as bigoted. An intolerant. Which in many ways is, is fundamentally on india and, and what is worse. So theyre doing this in the name of the, in books. Well, where is such as the choose the fundamentally on into, into ism is up famously or embrace in face, but accepts difference unexpected and takes all sorts of differences within its Belief Systems and between its and all the Belief Systems. So its, its a, its, its a big, complicated to basically the indian space. But essentially, if i would have simplified for the following audience, it is about into service. It includes civic death versus intolerance. India is what we see. The selection is being about just one final question before we die. If i may as a full minute an officer, how would you assess the will and bodies response to the car and what are we seeing and gone . Is it comparable to any of your Previous Mission . This would you say, unfortunately, im afraid the, the conflict in the middle east has always been one that of you and has found difficult to deal with. Except on the rare occasions when all the principal pauses involved, but willing to agree on a piece. We were, as you know, instrumental in the very 1st space, the 1948 you into supervision organizations in jerusalem. Reboot instrumental in the piece and the suez canal of crisis in 1956. And we brought in a un peacekeepers off to the 1967 wolf who lingered for long. This time, i would regroup job for the 1973 will also when i was a kid, we will help boost. But we will put tables to restore peacekeeping operations. Today i find no immediate prospect of doing anything meaningful. I would certainly want to you in the lead efforts for peace. But the fact is that the um is really government with what they consider to be just cause off to the heating is attacks of the 7th of october on innocent civilians. They have a mock diploma campaign which as you know, many have considered as bordering and genocide. And in the circumstances of the un kenyon reactive, the Security Council unanimously agrees on an intervention that to that, to stop this kind of conflict. All the Security Council is not agreeing because the us and some of its allies are not sympathetic to any desire to impose a piece upon these remedies. But there is a serious uh, amount of, of talking going on behind the scenes about the possible seas. Why . But it does not seem to involve the United Nations, it seems to be lead principally by the United States and a couple of states in the middle east, notably got the era and others who have been working with both of us and israel to try and come across us with a viable formula that can bring about peace. So i can say frankly that the u. N. Has distinguished itself with the surprises. But im not sure its entirely reasonable to blame the un here. I was a movie, more critical of the you and for not having intervened earlier to prevents the Russia Ukraine problems. Because when it was being widely totally dropped for weeks before the war broke out, that it will might be a minute. That would have been the right time for you and 60 generals to send the missionaries to both must go and cube, and if necessary, to nature capitals, to find a formula that could have avoided this, this tragic war. And very was critical of the you and i am not similarly critical of you. And yeah, because i understand the dynamics of theres not much that the you and could have done in a situation where super paws are directly involved. And im not prepared to agree on a piece for me to such that theyre always in an absolute pleasure. Many things. So speaking to us today, thank you all the best to you, the the a new video of alleged abuse by an officer. Today, the sheriffs deputy and columbia, South Carolina forcibly removed his student from a classroom at Spring Valley high school. I saw him just talking to her squared her and initially, you know, i didnt think it was a problem because i knew that she was just as quiet as through the end of the class. Someone looked at the Police Officer and says, here was Law Enforcement that is worse, clearly attacking, abusing power and other than others besides. This is whats wrong with the probably be on discipline, black children. He was there enforcing the law to meet the crime, to quote, disturb schools in any way. That means any disturbance that any kids causes and school is huge and forces never predict but necessary. A tops people were never gonna change your mind so people will never change their minds about the video. They think i was wrong, and thats it. 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